#eulora Logs for 24 Jul 2015



July 24th, 2015 by Diana Coman
danielpbarron: may i have an account? [00:01]
mircea_popescu: no, it's self serve, go there and click make an acct [00:17]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron ^ [00:17]
mircea_popescu: btw, done with the slags ? [00:18]
phf: eulora experience so far https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7qT-C-0ajI&t=1m17s [02:02]
danielpbarron: lol [03:00]
chetty: morning [03:52]
diana_coman: morning [04:44]
diana_coman: crash? [05:29]
diana_coman: it's probably my bot [05:29]
diana_coman: though not sure why/how [05:29]
chetty: well it has been stable a whole day .. [05:31]
diana_coman: and it had enough of so long stability? lol [05:32]
chetty: Bad container slot \% when trying to add item instance -- looks like moving something while still working [05:32]
diana_coman: hmm, again those pesky messages :( [05:32]
chetty: thats one I thought I had fixed yesterday too, so back to the drawing board [05:33]
diana_coman: ahhh, interesting [05:35]
diana_coman: before the crash [05:35]
diana_coman: I had ended up with about 4 bundles in my inventory [05:35]
diana_coman: lol [05:35]
diana_coman: it turns out they were "fake" [05:36]
diana_coman: as in : the bot grabbed them from the table too fast [05:36]
diana_coman: kind of multiplying them because of that, lol [05:36]
diana_coman: it turns out there should have been at most 1 and they were 4... [05:36]
chetty: ahh that would do it, server and client disagree on whats in your invnetory [05:37]
chetty: you did it again I think, pulled too soon, server complaining about an item it doesnt have [05:40]
diana_coman: yeah [05:40]
diana_coman: and uhm, now there is no tinkering exp when making a bundle? [05:41]
diana_coman: or it seems as if it loses focus in the middle of combining items? [05:41]
chetty: never has been exp for bundles [05:41]
diana_coman: oh, both exp messages were sent at the end of the whole process? [05:41]
diana_coman: I thought there was one for combine and one for use/craft [05:42]
diana_coman: and sent at the end of each phase resp [05:42]
chetty: nope, if it sent a message (possible) it would have been for zero, might not notice if you were always doing the transform [05:44]
diana_coman: hmmm, not sure how to notice&recover from arbitrary loss of target then :( [05:48]
diana_coman: since basically there doesn't seem to be any message notifying of that [05:48]
diana_coman: it just remains stuck with the bundle it seems [05:48]
diana_coman: and the bot waiting for it to finish [05:48]
chetty: is it loss of target that is hanging it? hmm [05:49]
diana_coman: it seems so from what I can see manually in game [05:51]
diana_coman: if I try to click myself on the "use",only then it complains that "you need to target the item" [05:51]
diana_coman: I guess I can try to just throw in a re-target and use straight after combine, but that will probably be too fast coming from the bot [05:52]
chetty: ok thanks, I'll see if we can spt more errors when we lose target [05:52]
diana_coman: no problem [05:52]
chetty: prolly better on my end too [05:52]
diana_coman: it ate my toolkit!! [06:13]
diana_coman: apparently at the last crash [06:13]
diana_coman: it's nowhere :( [06:13]
diana_coman: it seems that re-targeting works better, but apparently I need to really do it before each and every op, including take all, lol [06:22]
diana_coman: oh my [06:24]
diana_coman: what did I do this time? [06:24]
diana_coman: lol [06:24]
diana_coman: I really hope it does not eat this toolkit too... [06:25]
diana_coman: chetty or mircea_popescu? [06:26]
mircea_popescu: ima restart it [06:32]
mircea_popescu: how long ago did you set it down ? :D [06:32]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman u [06:33]
mircea_popescu: up [06:33]
diana_coman: apparently it was the same issue as before [06:34]
diana_coman: crashing the server [06:34]
diana_coman: and again? [06:35]
mircea_popescu: ah come on. [06:35]
diana_coman: yeah [06:35]
diana_coman: looool [06:35]
diana_coman: I have a crash button for the server it seems [06:35]
mircea_popescu: back [06:36]
diana_coman: well, I'll try to slow the bot down or something [06:36]
diana_coman: as otherwise it will surely crash it again [06:37]
mircea_popescu: i think im just gonna lock it down. [06:37]
mircea_popescu: start a craft, can't do anything else until done. [06:37]
diana_coman: well, that would work if the messages were reliable [06:38]
diana_coman: otherwise it will just hang [06:38]
diana_coman: given the arbitrary loss of target [06:38]
diana_coman: if I can't re-target [06:38]
diana_coman: then ... [06:38]
mircea_popescu: wlel yeah, but it won't crash the server. [06:39]
diana_coman: ahahaha, lol [06:39]
diana_coman: then we shelve the bot until the messages are reliable or there is a special message for job done [06:39]
diana_coman: lol [06:39]
diana_coman: hmmm, wonder if a close/open to the container would do the trick really [06:42]
diana_coman: as a kind of making sure it is updated [06:42]
mircea_popescu: can't leave the hole there tho. [06:43]
diana_coman: as it's really taking the bundle when the work is supposedly done, but it's just that the client doesn't yet know about it [06:43]
mircea_popescu: if it crashes the server, whatever it is, function message whatever, it gotta go. [06:43]
diana_coman: the container I mean [06:43]
diana_coman: yeah, I agree, but well, it can go in different ways [06:44]
diana_coman: cutting a leg is surely a method for becoming immune to leg-attacks, but well [06:44]
mircea_popescu: myeah. [06:44]
diana_coman: ouch, again [06:51]
diana_coman: :( [06:51]
mircea_popescu: what exactly are you doing ? [06:52]
diana_coman: crafting and taking the thing when it's supposedly done [06:53]
chetty: well that crash was a little different anyway [06:53]
diana_coman: I tried to re-open the container now before taking it [06:53]
diana_coman: hoping it updates in time [06:53]
diana_coman: I suspect it's basically that the container does not yet know to update from bundle to item [06:53]
diana_coman: although the item was finished, hence the bot got the messages [06:54]
diana_coman: so it kind of grabs the contents of the container after the job is done but before the container updated [06:54]
mircea_popescu: hm. [06:54]
diana_coman: hence it ends up with a bundle (according to the container's outdated knowledge) instead of the item as the server thinks [06:54]
chetty: actually I think you are taking it before it finishes diana_coman [06:58]
chetty: TransformContainedItem did not create new item [06:58]
diana_coman: hmmm, weird [06:58]
diana_coman: I made a change now, let me see if this fixes it [06:58]
diana_coman: it might be the issue with the unreliable mod messages [06:59]
diana_coman: if I can count on there being 2 of them each time, one for combining and one for finishing the item, then it should be ok [06:59]
diana_coman: but well [06:59]
diana_coman: yay [07:00]
diana_coman: so far so good [07:00]
diana_coman: worked fine this time [07:00]
diana_coman: so I guess the whole is there and exposed as it will crash if you grab the items before they finish (although I guess it is at a precise point in there as otherwise it would crash when taking them manually too?) [07:01]
diana_coman: but as long as the mod messages arrive as expected, I can avoid that I think [07:01]
diana_coman: on the client side, of course [07:01]
chetty: yeah its a very precise point that does it, never have managed to do it manually so I am not sure exactly where [07:03]
diana_coman: well, I can tell you that it's after 1 mod and 2 exp message received [07:05]
diana_coman: 1 peace mod I mean [07:05]
diana_coman: I guess it is very near to completion [07:05]
diana_coman: since the exp messages are both sent [07:05]
chetty: hm do you track the work mode messages? [07:06]
diana_coman: peace messages, yes [07:07]
diana_coman: the thing is that they do not seem very reliable [07:07]
diana_coman: yesterday I was getting only one instead of 2 [07:08]
diana_coman: maybe with the re-targetting they are more reliable [07:08]
diana_coman: I hope [07:08]
chetty: well between the 2 peace messages should be a work message [07:08]
diana_coman: do you mean a system message saying "you start work etc"? [07:10]
chetty: no, a mode set, just like peace [07:10]
diana_coman: or a mode one setting the stance to something else than peace? [07:10]
diana_coman: hmmm [07:10]
diana_coman: that's a good idea [07:10]
diana_coman: so far it works now :D [07:10]
diana_coman: (I'll have a look into that anyway as it seems a good thing) [07:11]
chetty: doing it on peace might in the end be bad, mode might come back as overweight instead too [07:11]
diana_coman: well, but anyway I can't do it only on work, can I? [07:12]
diana_coman: or is that when it finishes? [07:12]
diana_coman: the overweight is a good obs, I'll add that as alternative [07:12]
chetty: no, just sorta thinkging outloud here, cause I need to trap this on my end too [07:12]
diana_coman: it certainly helps me too :) [07:12]
diana_coman: awww [07:15]
diana_coman: and I crashed it again, but this time it was something else [07:15]
diana_coman: hmmm [07:15]
diana_coman: it trained [07:15]
diana_coman: and I think it messed up with the rest [07:15]
mircea_popescu: o.O [07:15]
diana_coman: I might pause the crafting for the training [07:15]
diana_coman: as now it didn't care, it was going ahead with both, lol [07:15]
diana_coman: anyway, making a bot seems like a very good way of testing the server :))) [07:16]
mircea_popescu: quite [07:16]
mircea_popescu: that was the plan to begin with. [07:17]
mircea_popescu: i nany case, it's the "take all" process that fails, each and every time. [07:17]
mircea_popescu: once we figure this one out should hopefully be good to go. [07:17]
diana_coman: yeah, but this time it was probably at the wrong moment for sure due to unexpected messages thrown in [07:17]
diana_coman: that moment before everything is loaded, when I wonder if my toolkit is still there or not [07:25]
diana_coman: :)) [07:25]
mircea_popescu: so pick it up now and again [07:27]
diana_coman: I mean: after the crash, when I log in back again [07:27]
diana_coman: there is nothing to do against that, lol [07:27]
diana_coman: otherwise I always pick it up as soon as I finish something [07:28]
diana_coman: actually this might be another issue, but not sure if I can sort it out from the bot [07:28]
diana_coman: maybe it should pick up the container when done [07:28]
diana_coman: but uhm [07:28]
diana_coman: I've made 28 shavings, but I think there should have been ingredients for more? [07:29]
mircea_popescu: if you crash it you generally lose the itam. [07:30]
mircea_popescu: recall the case of the 14 mushrooms -> 12 oils ? [07:30]
chetty: with so many crashes bound to lose something [07:30]
diana_coman: well, it's weird in that I still have 2 flotsam and 1 rock, lol [07:30]
diana_coman: yeah, I just wasn't sure and I did not yet get around to sort out the chat_base thing to get the full logs [07:30]
diana_coman: will do [07:30]
mircea_popescu: it's rather useful. [07:31]
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211915 << me either, but like "Avengers" - someone somewhere will be clinging on to anything. [07:32]
mircea_popescu: what's stars wars at , episode 500 ? [07:32]
mircea_popescu: the bold and the beautiful still running am i rite ? [07:32]
diana_coman: no idea [07:32]
chetty: whats that? [07:32]
mircea_popescu: damn [07:33]
mircea_popescu: wrong chan : [07:33]
chetty: lmao [07:34]
mircea_popescu: excuse the nonsequitur explosion :) [07:34]
diana_coman: hmmm, clearly the bot is too fast for its own good [12:40]
diana_coman: chetty is there any specific message sent at the end of the loot messages? (it seems I need to know when the loot is done, as otherwise the storage messages for the next craft can get mixed up :( ) [12:45]
chetty: I dont think so diana_coman , its just part to the crafting process, and it stops when it runs out of loot to send and goes back to finish the craft [13:20]
diana_coman: oh, I see [13:20]
diana_coman: nevermind, I found a different way to do that [13:20]
diana_coman: the bot will basically just keep checking with every update message received if the item it wants is finally in the inventory [13:21]
diana_coman: not the brightest thing to do, but the only one that will work really [13:21]
diana_coman: thanks anyway [13:21]
mod6: i'll have some map updates available today. [13:22]
diana_coman: cool mod6 [13:22]
mod6: diana_coman: in the map, http://www.mod6.net/eulora/map/eulora-map4.jpg -- looking at the upper left hand corner of the island where the mountain is mainly empty.. you said that the first half was mainly WPL and the more northern half, or upper half is WWB right? [13:24]
diana_coman: that sounds right as far as I remember [13:45]
diana_coman: prolly safer to get from the logs [13:45]
mod6: I guess i gotta look back. [13:46]
diana_coman: sorry, I just focused those days on the bot and I don't really remember that [13:47]
mod6: so yeah, you said a bunch of things in there really :] [13:53]
mod6: logs.minigame.bz/2015-07-14.log.html [13:53]
mod6: (end of the log area) [13:54]
mod6: specifically: logs.minigame.bz/2015-07-14.log.html#t23:18:27 [13:55]
danielpbarron: btw am I the only one who uses the Eulora friend list? [13:55]
danielpbarron: the best* greatest** bestest*** social network! [13:55]
danielpbarron: I have 11 friends [13:56]
danielpbarron: so i think that means Eulora has 12 characters total [13:56]
mod6: greyhawk dissed you? [13:57]
mod6: oh i suppose you can't "friend" yourself. haha [13:57]
danielpbarron: and i can't friend reginald [13:58]
danielpbarron: although i was able to friend "Test" [13:58]
danielpbarron: and then someone removed it [13:58]
mod6: awe [13:58]
mircea_popescu: lol [14:03]
mircea_popescu: i was gonna ask who did https://www.facebook.com/pages/Eulora/1439975486317739 [14:19]
mircea_popescu: but then i followed the twitter. https://twitter.com/playeulora [14:19]
mircea_popescu: lobbes, can you make the bot post there from here ? like with a command ? [14:20]
mod6: the maps have been updated. [14:49]
mod6: not by a whole lot, but it's a big area. will continue to work through the interior as time permits. [14:50]
mircea_popescu: anything good found ? magical dungbeetle is the latest discovery in the crafter camp [15:00]
mod6: naw, i just updated to cover some more ground; added mainly SRs & RRs. Some SGs, BBBs mixed in. [15:04]
mod6: I thought i saw that about the MDB in the log; but then i thought i mis-read that it was actually found: http://logs.minigame.bz/2015-07-23.log.html#t15:52:35 [15:05]
mod6: im pretty sure i have some of those horded up. [15:06]
mod6: but never found any yet :/ [15:06]
mircea_popescu: i'd buy em [15:16]
danielpbarron: i'd buy em [15:24]
danielpbarron: auction! [15:24]
mod6: i've got 2 [15:35]
mod6: 3 pacademia nuts [15:35]
mod6: 1 wm [15:35]
danielpbarron: well 2 is the multiple needed so that's good [15:37]
danielpbarron: i will buy all those things [15:37]
danielpbarron: actually if your wm is low q you should sell it to mp [15:38]
danielpbarron: i'll buy the beetles at any quality [15:38]
mod6: did you ever find any other mining claims? [15:38]
danielpbarron: of what? [15:38]
danielpbarron: no i guess [15:38]
mod6: MDB, WM (in a different location?) [15:38]
mod6: ok [15:38]
danielpbarron: i may have found another elusive snail location but you had one already [15:39]
danielpbarron: wait mdb is found?? [15:39]
mod6: it sounds like there was confusion around that. [15:39]
mod6: i don't think it has, no. [15:39]
danielpbarron: ah [15:39]
danielpbarron: i don't know what the nuts are for yet [15:40]
danielpbarron: i'll pay over base value for the beetles [15:41]
danielpbarron: foxy and I need those to progress in a couple skill lines [15:41]
danielpbarron: actually maybe sell them to foxy [15:41]
danielpbarron: it may be a moot point for now because i don't think there is a working samovar [15:42]
danielpbarron: meaning we need slithy toves above all else [15:42]
mod6: ah [15:42]
mod6: i sold my horded STs and my Samovar a while ago. [15:42]
danielpbarron: it's nice to get a stack but we really need a reliable source [15:43]
mod6: yeah [15:43]
danielpbarron: for now i burn most of my tools on shrooms [15:44]
danielpbarron: to make more tools [15:44]
danielpbarron: and the spent tools make toolkits [15:44]
mod6: yeah, i [15:45]
mod6: ve burned a lot of tools on the map [15:45]
danielpbarron: you can do that bare-handed [15:46]
danielpbarron: i have a macro [15:46]
mod6: har she blows? [15:57]
mod6: yup [15:57]
mod6: i /explor'd then nothing, took 2 steps, /explored again, nothing... figured maybe the server was already not responding or some such [15:58]
danielpbarron: oh same here [16:01]
chetty: server appears to be cooking along just fine atm [16:02]
danielpbarron: eh at least my tool doesn't get used when /explore misfired [16:04]
danielpbarron: but yeah the last 5 to 10 minutes sometimes it seems to complete the loading bar but then it doesn't give a "you were not successful" [16:05]
danielpbarron: seems to be working now [16:06]
danielpbarron: i wonder if it was because 3 of us were /exploring at once [16:06]
danielpbarron: it's happening again [16:07]
danielpbarron: 5 /explores in a row [16:07]
chetty: well I know there are a few small glitches in it, a lot of me trying to correct for bots, keeping logs to see if I can figure it out [16:07]
jurov: heyo, i should be online tmrw afternoon/night .. if anyone is starving for coppers [16:10]
danielpbarron: i'll get some [16:10]
diana_coman: danielpbarron there IS a working samovar [16:11]
danielpbarron: oh [16:11]
diana_coman: and yes, I'll buy the beetles mod [16:12]
diana_coman: mod6 [16:12]
danielpbarron: well mod6 has 2 beetles [16:12]
danielpbarron: :D [16:12]
diana_coman: ah mod6, I think I did not mention it before: I've explore more the underwater area out in front of the hill with the tree on it [16:18]
diana_coman: basically I found only RF everywhere there [16:18]
mod6: hill with a tree? [16:54]
mod6: is that the three-legged try adjacent from "town"? [16:55]
mod6: s/try/tree/ [16:55]
diana_coman: yes [16:55]
mod6: yeah, i found a lot of RF along the banks there. the only place I've found it, infact. [16:55]
diana_coman: yes, but it goes a lot into the water too [16:55]
diana_coman: I was hoping to find something else, but nope [16:56]
diana_coman: only rf there all the way [16:56]
diana_coman: as far as I can tell [16:56]
chetty: I think the next release is gonna need a few more landmarks [17:14]
diana_coman: spiron's grave? [17:15]
danielpbarron: crashed [17:27]
diana_coman: this time it wasn't me, lol [17:28]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu or chetty? [17:32]
danielpbarron: i got 19 * 175q flotsam [17:38]
danielpbarron: out of 2 of my enumerations [17:39]
danielpbarron: with keys i bought for 8k per :/ [17:39]
danielpbarron: do the markers have quality too? [17:40]
diana_coman: sucks [17:40]
danielpbarron: well i know it varies [17:40]
danielpbarron: i may still have gotten a good price [17:40]
diana_coman: not sure if quality per se, but I think they have each different "odds" or whatever [17:40]
danielpbarron: sometimes they give me 2 or 3 hundred [17:40]
diana_coman: were those small? [17:40]
danielpbarron: yeah [17:41]
diana_coman: and yes, you need to average over a long period to make any sense [17:41]
danielpbarron: i'm keeping track of data now [17:41]
diana_coman: wow, do you have the building skills? [17:41]
diana_coman: now I saw the q [17:41]
diana_coman: lol [17:41]
danielpbarron: my building rank is not low [17:41]
diana_coman: ok, let me ask it differently [17:42]
danielpbarron: not high either though [17:42]
diana_coman: do you get the same quality for moss for instance? [17:42]
danielpbarron: i can't recall exact number and the server is down [17:42]
danielpbarron: oh wait i wrote it down [17:42]
danielpbarron: in my data [17:42]
danielpbarron: 57 [17:42]
diana_coman: :) [17:42]
diana_coman: hmmm [17:42]
diana_coman: I mean: I have more than that for sure but I had the impression my flotsam was lower in quality [17:42]
diana_coman: so : are you sure you don't have additional skills? [17:43]
diana_coman: lol [17:43]
danielpbarron: you probably are getting better flotsam than me [17:43]
diana_coman: (or I REALLY need to check again the q of my flotsam) [17:43]
danielpbarron: mp's come out in the 700s i think [17:43]
diana_coman: oh [17:43]
diana_coman: but mp DOES have those pesky skills [17:43]
danielpbarron: or something high [17:43]
diana_coman: so yeah [17:43]
danielpbarron: i have samples [17:44]
danielpbarron: but can't check now [17:44]
diana_coman: they might be from earlier [17:44]
diana_coman: those around 830q [17:44]
danielpbarron: no i got some very recently [17:44]
diana_coman: ok [17:44]
danielpbarron: i got a reduced price by picking them up from the dig location [17:44]
diana_coman: anyway, mp has some building skills that help him with ordinary resources [17:44]
diana_coman: oh [17:44]
danielpbarron: pretty clever? [17:45]
diana_coman: so yeah, his flotsam will be better than mine [17:45]
danielpbarron: one guy mining hires others to get the stuff so he doesn't have to break stride [17:45]
diana_coman: although the rarer resources prolly not [17:45]
diana_coman: of course, if there are enough people willing to [17:45]
diana_coman: atm I think it's really people we miss most [17:45]
diana_coman: not enough players really [17:45]
diana_coman: how are the sacrifices going? [17:46]
danielpbarron: i'm on a lot [17:46]
diana_coman: do you need anything? [17:46]
danielpbarron: yeah i need blueprints and wine [17:46]
danielpbarron: lol [17:46]
danielpbarron: so that's pretty much on hold for now [17:46]
diana_coman: well yes, but there is only that much that one person can do and then there is also the need for more diversity I think [17:46]
diana_coman: what kind of blueprints? [17:46]
danielpbarron: you could get me 1 blueprint possibly with the beetles [17:46]
danielpbarron: supplication [17:47]
diana_coman: oh, you finished all the supplications? [17:47]
danielpbarron: yeah [17:47]
diana_coman: I see [17:47]
danielpbarron: 12 wine, 1 murky, 1 rock [17:47]
diana_coman: did you use those tokens too in the end? [17:47]
danielpbarron: the murky yielded a token of very high valule [17:47]
danielpbarron: like over 30k [17:47]
diana_coman: wow [17:47]
danielpbarron: but no extras [17:47]
diana_coman: well, that makes sense [17:47]
danielpbarron: the later wines gave me a bunch of 2-leaf clovers [17:47]
danielpbarron: and pretty much worthless tokens [17:48]
danielpbarron: like 300 or so [17:48]
danielpbarron: per [17:48]
diana_coman: what wine is that? the uppity thing you mean? [17:48]
danielpbarron: "almost wine" [17:48]
danielpbarron: so far all my supplications have needed 1 "almost wine" per [17:48]
diana_coman: uhm, isn't that made with the samovar? I'm confused [17:48]
danielpbarron: and three of the thing being sacrificed [17:48]
danielpbarron: so three berries, 3 mysterious stones, 3 smelly murky somethings [17:48]
danielpbarron: etc [17:48]
diana_coman: well, not that bad [17:49]
danielpbarron: i like the number 3 [17:49]
diana_coman: ha ha [17:49]
danielpbarron: i get my groceries in 3s [17:49]
diana_coman: :D [17:49]
danielpbarron: 3 avocados, 3 jalepenos, 3 mushrooms [17:49]
danielpbarron: i traded 24 or so clovers to mp and the deal is he'll make me some thing that i need and i'll only have to pay for the other materials that went into it [17:50]
diana_coman: what's that? [17:50]
danielpbarron: and for the extra value he embues it with from being high rank [17:50]
danielpbarron: i don't recall [17:50]
danielpbarron: there's some thing that i need [17:50]
diana_coman: lol [17:50]
danielpbarron: and he can make with clovers [17:50]
danielpbarron: i sold him my average clovers actually [17:51]
danielpbarron: i have a few that are higher quality than even those [17:51]
danielpbarron: and he was impressed at how high quality the ones i gave were [17:51]
danielpbarron: i have a few that are 300q [17:51]
danielpbarron: :D [17:51]
danielpbarron: very very lucky clovers [17:51]
danielpbarron: or so i imagine [17:52]
danielpbarron: the ones i sold were mid 200s i think [17:52]
diana_coman: :))) [17:52]
danielpbarron: err, not sold but whatever the word is for that [17:52]
danielpbarron: staked [17:52]
diana_coman: well yes, they sound quite high quality really [17:52]
diana_coman: kind of bartered I suppose in the end [17:52]
danielpbarron: i didn't want to sell them outright [17:53]
diana_coman: did you do all the shreddings too? [17:53]
danielpbarron: i'm sure in the future there will be more liquidity in the clover market [17:53]
danielpbarron: but for now these are the only ones that will exist for some time [17:53]
danielpbarron: and i don't want to just sell them [17:53]
diana_coman: well, once we actually manage to find them I suppose [17:54]
danielpbarron: what if that's the only way to get them? [17:54]
diana_coman: I didn't really get that impression at all [17:55]
diana_coman: but yeah, anything is possible I guess [17:55]
diana_coman: I think though that those items were all supposed to be found really, it's just that some of them are VERY elusive and/or require much higher skill and/or tools [17:56]
lobbes: http://logs.minigame.bz/latest.log.html#t18:19:06 << I will look into adding this functionality. Seems like a fun quest. Though, no promises on when. [22:54]
lobbes: Meatworld has been consuming my time lately [22:55]
lobbes: oops, wrong log url. Meant this one: http://logs.minigame.bz/2015-07-24.log.html#t18:20:01 [22:58]
mircea_popescu: no big rush lobbes ! [23:58]

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