#eulora Logs for 20 Jul 2015


July 20th, 2015 by Diana Coman
chetty: morning [04:20]
diana_coman: morning chetty [05:24]
diana_coman: and crash? lol [05:26]
diana_coman: I was trying to build a claim I got earlier this morning [05:26]
diana_coman: tiny [05:26]
chetty: up, well a lot fewer crashes lately, let me see if I can figure what cause this one [05:27]
chetty: hmm well that was a new one (crash reason) something it didnt like about your 'recipe' [05:29]
diana_coman: hmm, weird [05:31]
diana_coman: I just put on the brain a load of tiny recipes I got from a mining run [05:31]
diana_coman: and then randomly built some of the tiny claims with them [05:31]
diana_coman: it was all right a bit earlier [05:31]
chetty: yeah I dunno, should have been ok, this looks like a gremlin, have to wait until I see something like it again .. or not [05:32]
chetty: were you using any sort of bot? [05:37]
diana_coman: no [05:37]
diana_coman: I mean: this was all manual action [05:38]
diana_coman: the bot was registered and listening to messages, but that was all [05:38]
chetty: ok, just adding to notes in case this pops up again :) [05:38]
diana_coman: thinking back to it: I might have hit a claim that was being sweeped or something maybe? [05:53]
chetty: its possible, but it really looked like the instructions were the problem, not the claim [05:54]
chetty: Could not find account for login your@email.here ?? [07:11]
diana_coman: ?? [07:20]
diana_coman: what's that? [07:20]
chetty: someone tried to log in, was curious [07:21]
diana_coman: hi mircea_popescu any tools and esp bandar toolkit for sale? [07:25]
mircea_popescu: i got a few improved pickaxes, want a coupla ? [07:26]
diana_coman: yes [07:26]
diana_coman: any basic cruddy hoes? [07:26]
mircea_popescu: just some basic adzes [07:26]
diana_coman: so that at least I can make a bandar toolkit if you have none [07:27]
diana_coman: this morning I mined flotsam better bare handed apparently, lol [07:27]
mircea_popescu: lol [07:27]
mircea_popescu: well, get me some mushroom i can make either tool or toolkit. [07:27]
mircea_popescu: take the adze wear them down that'll also help. [07:28]
diana_coman: sure [07:28]
mircea_popescu: esp if you wea them down getting 6 mushroom, that way i'll be able to make 3 toolkits iirc. [07:28]
diana_coman: oh, I have a few shrooms [07:28]
diana_coman: there were no shrooms today [07:28]
diana_coman: have to wait, lol [07:28]
mircea_popescu: ok gimme a moment here apparently ever moar ddosing. [07:28]
diana_coman: ok [07:29]
mircea_popescu: ill be in game in ~20 mins [07:29]
diana_coman: ok [07:29]
diana_coman: well, turns out I'll have to go anyway in about 10 mins so will leave it for the evening I guess [07:40]
mircea_popescu: kk [07:46]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu I'm back, so whenever you can, I have a few mushrooms and I want to buy a bandar toolkit and some tools [10:56]
mod6: im not positive here.. .but im pretty sure that 9 tiny SR claims just vanished [12:07]
mod6: i mined three rows of claims, and then all of a sudden, there are only 2. [12:08]
mod6: well, i didn't lock the claims either, and i probably mined them an hour ago [12:09]
mod6: maybe a bit more [12:09]
mod6: if they were harvested, i still had the keys, they wern't turned into LBoN [12:10]
diana_coman: mod6 do the keys still show the location if you right click on them? [12:11]
diana_coman: as they might have turned actually even if they still look like keys [12:11]
mod6: eh, i dunno any more. i dumped 'em. [12:11]
mod6: and i had like 30+ to sort through, so would have been hard to tell. [12:11]
mod6: you wanna mine an ordinary SR i just found? [12:14]
mod6: doesn't have to be now, just whenever you've got time/have the stuff [12:14]
danielpbarron: lol [12:14]
danielpbarron: (no) [12:14]
diana_coman: I think it needs slithy tove [12:14]
diana_coman: otherwise yes, I want to, sure [12:15]
mod6: danielpbarron: huh? [12:15]
danielpbarron: the slithy tove thing [12:15]
danielpbarron: ordinary claims require a slithy tove and as far as i can tell i have the only one [12:16]
diana_coman: not all them, but the SR ones I think do [12:16]
danielpbarron: oh really? [12:16]
diana_coman: yes, the recipe is different for each item [12:16]
diana_coman: and some don't require slithy tove [12:16]
danielpbarron: but all tiny and small claims are the same right? [12:16]
diana_coman: yes, but only tiny and small [12:17]
danielpbarron: aha [12:17]
diana_coman: anything beyond that has a specific recipe for each item [12:17]
danielpbarron: if shiny rock doesn't need tove then i'll buy it [12:17]
mod6: it does, and 6 Wms [12:19]
mod6: jeeze, smalls today have paid out no more than 9 SRs per mine [12:21]
mod6: ups and downs in the mining game tho [12:21]
diana_coman: btw mod6 I'll buy that claim if you prefer, anyway [13:16]
danielpbarron: http://danielpbarron.com/eulora/shop.txt [13:19]
diana_coman: uhm, a shop that only buys stuff? [13:19]
diana_coman: and maybe give some idea as to what you pay for the stuff you buy, anyway? [13:20]
diana_coman: anyway, in case anyone is interested, I updated my shop this morning too: http://www.dianacoman.com/Eulora/foxystore.html [13:20]
diana_coman: I guess I'll specialise for now in gungho-gumbo, lol [13:21]
danielpbarron: heh, i pay whatever you say [13:21]
diana_coman: trade me when ready [13:23]
danielpbarron: crash! [13:47]
mircea_popescu: aaand i fuckt it [13:50]
mircea_popescu: back [13:50]
diana_coman: uhm... congrats? :)) [13:50]
mod6: thx mp [13:51]
mircea_popescu: im pretty good at finding novel ways so far. almost jurovian levels over here :D [13:51]
diana_coman: ha ha [13:51]
mod6: i wanna build a store too, but before i do, i gotta find a way to pull whatevers in my storage and dump to some sort of structured data [13:53]
diana_coman: btw mircea_popescu my sm sells at the merchant for 215, so you might want to update the pricing for that too [13:53]
diana_coman: mod6 I will be able to do that very soon [13:54]
diana_coman: I am looking into the storage thing right now [13:54]
mod6: sweeeeet [13:54]
diana_coman: and I think I got to some extent how it works [13:54]
diana_coman: just let me know what do you have in mind/would need? [13:54]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman nah, thing is, i really have no use for over q 100 sm. because well... it does nothing for me. [13:54]
diana_coman: (I'm looking into it for the crafting bot so that it can take stuff from storage, but well, once I get it, I surely intend to use it) [13:54]
diana_coman: oh, ok mircea_popescu, no worries [13:55]
mod6: really it'd just be great to have a /dumpstorage /path/to/output.txt or something [13:55]
diana_coman: the items things and stuff are sent in xml format from the server [13:55]
mod6: then it can just dump CSV rows or JSON, or XML even would be fine. [13:55]
mod6: well, nevermind the XML, worst case scenario i guess :] [13:55]
diana_coman: so it's not that hard to dump the xml really [13:55]
diana_coman: ha ha [13:55]
danielpbarron: i wish the withdraw from storage screen showed quality [13:55]
diana_coman: hmmm [13:56]
mod6: ok xml i can deal with too. [13:56]
mod6: lol, i'll just post raw xml so customers' eyes can bleed [13:56]
diana_coman: ahhahaha [13:56]
mod6: j/k! [13:57]
diana_coman: do you want to make the shop directly linked to storage you mean? [13:57]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i mean, if recipe needs say 3 A and 1 B, and i make q 180 result. then obviously i want as and bs to craft with. and it makes no difference what q they are to me, because if they are not over 180 im not getting bps regardless. now, obviopusly it's irrational to then demand q 1 because nobody has it. [13:57]
mod6: eh, na, i don't need that really. i was just thinking it's hard for me to remember what I hvae available for sale. [13:58]
mircea_popescu: but also, the 30\% cost increase from q 100 to q 130 is not justifiable, i just end up making less 22269$ [13:58]
mod6: and if there was an easy way to get the list of my items in storage, i could update a site or something. [13:58]
mod6: then i'll sell by hand. [13:58]
mircea_popescu: mod6 alternatively you can just dump it in my trade window and ill price&pay [13:58]
mod6: i could do that too :] [13:58]
mircea_popescu: Mircescu's Famous Price&Pay Inlet [13:58]
mircea_popescu: you know, the opposite of an outlet. [13:59]
diana_coman: danielpbarron? [13:59]
mod6: feels bad selling mp 60 qual RRs [13:59]
mircea_popescu: why ? i love them. [13:59]
diana_coman: ha ha mod6, don't feel bad [13:59]
mod6: haha, alrighty then. [13:59]
mod6: i'll hvae to unload some stuff in like a week. [14:00]
mircea_popescu: low q is good. high-ish q is bad, for me. [14:00]
mod6: really? [14:00]
mircea_popescu: i was jus' sayin this [14:00]
mod6: ah. [14:00]
diana_coman: so far I end up selling what I said I wanted to buy, lol, but well, since it's needed, apparently will go and get more [14:00]
mircea_popescu: i see you're overbidding me on mushrooms o.O [14:00]
mircea_popescu: WHAT SORT OF SOCIALISM ARE WE BUILDING HERE! [14:00]
mircea_popescu: i mean toves not mushrooms [14:00]
diana_coman: it's interesting really that mp is basically a good store for beginner miners really [14:01]
mircea_popescu: BUT SAME IDEA! [14:01]
diana_coman: and I got the tove :P [14:01]
diana_coman: there [14:01]
diana_coman: :))) [14:01]
diana_coman: will come to you to make the samovar though [14:01]
mircea_popescu: yeah, turns out noob crafter - expert crafter make excellent teams, and also noob miners - higher crafter. [14:01]
mircea_popescu: and also high miner noob crafter [14:01]
mircea_popescu: i guess the idea is high-low [14:02]
diana_coman: yeah, either stink at it entirely, or be excellent :)) [14:02]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman you realise that given a population of players, merely finding the optimal pairing of them is actually pn [14:03]
mod6: 109 SR small claim. wewt [14:03]
diana_coman: yeah [14:03]
mircea_popescu: haha wd. [14:03]
diana_coman: well done mod6 [14:03]
mod6: making me back on par since the other 6 i mined gave me ~9 ea. [14:04]
danielpbarron: i'm gonna have 84q improbable oil (11) in however long that takes to craft [14:04]
mircea_popescu: great i buy! [14:04]
mod6: 3 in a row? [14:04]
mircea_popescu: dude you keep getting that... [14:04]
mod6: dat's like a yatzee [14:04]
mircea_popescu: you know how rare it is ? [14:04]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman check out this heretic. 3 smalls i na row ? i got that like... once. in easily > 5k claims [14:05]
mod6: that one gave me 21 [14:05]
diana_coman: :))) [14:05]
diana_coman: he had trouble earlier so well [14:05]
mircea_popescu: course i DID get 2 grass remarkables [14:05]
mircea_popescu: which i can't fucking dig up [14:05]
mod6: the inputs for that are lofty [14:05]
diana_coman: ha ha, I didn't get even an ordinary in AGES [14:05]
mircea_popescu: mod6 i could almost do it if a certain woman would be spending more time in the kitchen making us samovar sandwiches! [14:06]
diana_coman: :)))) [14:06]
mod6: hahah [14:06]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i think ordinary is only for skill-getting players [14:06]
mircea_popescu: which don't include you. [14:06]
diana_coman: what even IS skill-getting players, lol [14:07]
mircea_popescu: you know, the select few who get skills. [14:07]
mircea_popescu: i was all happy you knwo, ignoring the green text and enjoying mining [14:07]
diana_coman: :)))) [14:07]
mircea_popescu: then she got me to look and now im painfully aware im not getting skills. [14:07]
diana_coman: ahahaha [14:07]
mircea_popescu: anyway, the annoyance of this has decided me : the lich will definitely have a "skill xp sucking ability". [14:08]
diana_coman: :))) [14:08]
diana_coman: mod6's request got me thinking of a command along the lines /dump storage/inventory/recipe hmmm [14:22]
diana_coman: as it would need a separate thing anyway to send and wait for a few messages [14:22]
diana_coman: but it's certainly doable [14:22]
diana_coman: but well, who needs that, gotta make that samovar shiny or smth :D [14:23]
mod6: :] [14:23]
chetty: I need to take server down for a couple minutes to install patches if no one objects [14:48]
mod6: eh. ok. [14:49]
mod6: actually, im good. [14:49]
mod6: it'll only nuke my tiny claims [14:49]
chetty: well it will reset the hour or so you have to work them [14:50]
mod6: ok np :] [14:55]
chetty: back up [15:01]
chetty: yup I need to rever part of that patch, 3 or 4 minutes folks [15:10]
diana_coman: uhm, did it just crash? [15:10]
diana_coman: ah, ok [15:11]
diana_coman: btw danielpbarron, I had more berries but lower quality (90 I think), did not know you wanted those too [15:11]
diana_coman: do you want them or just the high q ones? [15:12]
danielpbarron: i guess i want 'em all [15:12]
danielpbarron: i'm already crafting way too high quality tokens to have any hope of overcrafting [15:12]
danielpbarron: not sure how to get more recipes [15:12]
diana_coman: hmmm [15:12]
diana_coman: not sure if they cross with any other line [15:13]
danielpbarron: you need them to make wine, no? [15:13]
diana_coman: oh, don't worry about that [15:13]
danielpbarron: i just traded for some wineskins if you want those [15:13]
diana_coman: I get more recipes as I got the first ones anyway [15:13]
chetty: back, and I'll be back with a patch of the patch, in a while [15:13]
diana_coman: did you buy the wineskins you mean? [15:13]
diana_coman: do you need them? [15:14]
mod6: ok [15:14]
mod6: thx chetty [15:14]
diana_coman: thanks chetty [15:14]
danielpbarron: idk mp offered them to me so i took em [15:14]
danielpbarron: if only to just pass them along to you at same price [15:14]
diana_coman: oh, sure [15:14]
diana_coman: trade me when ready [15:15]
diana_coman: I'll take the wineskins and will give you some berries [15:15]
diana_coman: oh, down [15:16]
chetty: oi once more .. [15:16]
mod6: ok [15:16]
chetty: up, hopefully [15:18]
diana_coman: oops, I took something from storage [15:20]
chetty: nah it me, I screwed something ... working on it [15:27]
chetty: ok, maybe its back where it was before I screwed with it [15:49]
chetty: let me know when yu are up for me making another run at fixing this [16:16]
mircea_popescu: fire away neh ? [16:17]
mod6: go ahead. [16:18]
mod6: i mined all my claims [16:19]
mod6: good mining today [16:19]
chetty: cool, hopefully I wont screw it up this time :) [16:19]
mod6: no worries. take your time. [16:20]
chetty: well its in, cross your fingers when you log on [16:20]
mod6: ok :D [16:21]
mod6: back to mining. [16:23]
mod6: so far so good [16:23]
chetty: you getting xp ok mod6? [16:24]
mod6: yeah says so [16:24]
mod6: got it every time so far. [16:24]
mod6: yeah weather success or !success, gives the message that I got points in gathering [16:27]
chetty: so far so good ... [16:27]
mod6: hey! i got like ... 10 out of that tiny or something. [16:40]
chetty: nice [16:40]
mod6: pr [16:41]
mod6: highest i ever had before was 3 [16:41]
danielpbarron: lol did i do that? [16:54]
mod6: something weird happened [16:54]
mod6: i dunno [16:55]
danielpbarron: crashed right after i logged in [16:55]
mod6: my tool wore out, so i removed it from my hand, put it in the worn out pile [16:55]
mod6: then put in another. but nothing happened. just disappeared. [16:55]
mod6: so looked around, wasn't on the ground. so i put another one in there. [16:55]
mod6: same thing. [16:55]
mod6: then boom [16:55]
danielpbarron: i took some blueprints and ingredients out of storage and placed a crafting table [16:55]
danielpbarron: last thing i did was put blueprints in mind and ingredients in table, and boom [16:55]
chetty: I think it was MPs bot [16:57]
chetty: you prolly moved those tools after the server was already down but the client didnt know it yet [16:58]
mod6: yeah, i've seen similar things before with mining and moving items during crash [16:58]
chetty: they should be back bwhere they were before the crash [17:00]
mod6: ok\ [17:00]
mod6: yup [17:02]
danielpbarron: my client keeps crashing [17:02]
danielpbarron: might be unrelated [17:02]
danielpbarron: it's happened in the past and went away [17:02]
danielpbarron: will keep trying [17:02]
chetty: server is happy enough, if you get error report on your crashes send it along [17:03]
danielpbarron: it happens when tinkering completes [17:03]
mod6: another 100 SR small claim [17:04]
mod6: something blew it up [17:05]
mod6: all of a sudden i couldn't mine. [17:05]
mircea_popescu: on sec [17:18]
mod6: np [17:35]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/eulora-shop/ << updated, if anyone wants the pickaxe :D [21:29]
mircea_popescu: oh and also lobbesbot seems on vacation lobbes ? anyway, the news : http://trilema.com/2015/prepare-to-be-insanely-incredibly-very-very-jealous-with-envy/ [21:29]
danielpbarron: i'll buy, you in town? [21:32]
hanbot: ...wow! [21:34]
hanbot: congrats mircea_popescu [21:35]
hanbot: oh and the quality! [21:36]
phf: mircea_popescu: i have a wooly mushroom for you, but i accidentally nuked my eulora folder, so i won't be able to sell it, until i produce that mac os x patch. :/ [22:14]
phf: that's quite an incentive model [22:15]
mod6: O_O wow nice find mp [22:30]

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