#eulora Logs for 08 Jul 2015



July 8th, 2015 by Diana Coman
mircea_popescu: o hey! [00:33]
mircea_popescu: mod6 yeah srsly all tyhat shoul;d be in the wiki [00:33]
chetty: http://192.121.170.137/eulora/2015-07-02.log.html [02:28]
jurov: mod6: http://www.explo.yt/eulora/airborne1.jpg , 2,3,4 [06:24]
jurov: chetty can you put log url to topic, praps? [06:24]
chetty: oh yeah good idea, I just have to go lookup how to log into the chan op stuff [07:48]
diana_coman: hello [08:37]
chetty: hi diana_coman, I thought a bit about the 'block' issue, I think either the server is not sending or the client is not getting the mode setting when the the work action is finished. [08:55]
chetty: I am resetting a bunch of the data I log today to try and catch it [08:56]
diana_coman: that is possible, perhaps given the shaky connection of yesterday [08:56]
diana_coman: maybe it just gets lost on the way [08:56]
diana_coman: but why would it consider that the inventory is full? [08:57]
chetty: well I am going to log most of those messages to see, should hep with one on encumberance too [08:58]
diana_coman: ok [08:58]
diana_coman: did you have any time to look for that id for psGUIInteractMessage? [08:58]
chetty: to get your clientnum you might want to print out one of the first couple messages you get when log in, like motd or something in detail. [08:59]
diana_coman: ah [09:00]
diana_coman: it's not something accessible through some getter or the like [09:01]
diana_coman: eek [09:01]
diana_coman: ok, thanks [09:01]
diana_coman: here I got again the inventory issue [09:02]
diana_coman: it worked fine until now, so for about ...5 minutes? lol [09:02]
chetty: ouch, try something like sit and stand, might reset the mode [09:38]
mod6: jurov: thanks! [09:42]
mod6: diana_coman: did you have some overhead flying shots too? [09:45]
diana_coman: yes mod6, they are at the end of http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/06/25/samovars-boulders-business-and-teleportation-all-in-a-few-days-work/ [09:46]
diana_coman: the top 3 are flying, the bottom ones are more like....being deep down in the ground, lol [09:46]
mod6: looks [09:47]
mod6: ah ha. great. thanks :] [09:48]
diana_coman: yw :) [09:50]
mod6: well, i did find some rotten fruit [11:18]
thestringpuller: chetty: i'll send screen shots of what I "highlighted" for the counts. dunno if you need a specific number given a specific selection [11:32]
chetty: hey grats mod6 [11:38]
chetty: I need the number [11:38]
thestringpuller: chetty: does the selection matter? except just general area of the hands/forehead? [11:43]
mircea_popescu: http://192.121.170.137/eulora/2015-07-02.log.html << hey lobbes this looks great. can you use a subdomain on minigame.bz if i forward you the zone ? [11:56]
lobbes: mircea_popescu, yeah I will give it a go [11:59]
mircea_popescu: aite sending it to that ip ? [11:59]
lobbes: yes, that should be fine [12:00]
mircea_popescu: aite a sec. [12:01]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu mod6 had found that slithy tove in storage... [12:04]
mircea_popescu: anothger one ? [12:04]
diana_coman: no, that one you showed me the other day [12:05]
diana_coman: at least the way you said it, I thought he actually mined it, lol [12:05]
chetty: well thestringpuller it will serve as the socket so we can attach weapons, make it your best shot, maybe tell me the numbers of the ones around the those picked, so I can move a little if needed [12:05]
mod6: haha, no, diana_coman congradulated me on finding the Tove. But i was like "wa?". Anyway, a mis-understanding. The one I sold you I had saved up from like a month ago that I /bought/ from the store. [12:05]
mircea_popescu: i dunno how he got it [12:06]
mircea_popescu: but if you notice it didn't bear his crafter mark [12:06]
mircea_popescu: proll merchant [12:06]
diana_coman: yes [12:06]
diana_coman: exactly [12:06]
diana_coman: merchant [12:06]
diana_coman: but I was like: pffft, if he found it, then at least there is no hurry in searching for it anymore, lol [12:07]
mircea_popescu: lobbes logs.minigame.bz [12:12]
mircea_popescu: "It works! This is the default web page for this server." [12:12]
lobbes: lol, hmm [12:12]
lobbes: one sec.. [12:12]
lobbes: can it forward to http://192.121.170.137/eulora/latest.log.html? [12:13]
lobbes: or even http://192.121.170.137/eulora/ << would show the 'log index' as opposed to the most recent log [12:14]
mod6: do you have a vhost setup for log.minigame.bz lobbes? [12:22]
diana_coman: mod6 get your tool, lol [12:22]
lobbes: mod6, ah no, I do not think so. [12:25]
lobbes: starts looking up vhost documentation [12:25]
mod6: err, sorry: logs.minigame.bz [12:25]
mod6: ;; ANSWER SECTION: [12:26]
mod6: logs.minigame.bz. 900 IN A 192.121.170.137 [12:26]
mod6: are you using apache? [12:26]
lobbes: yes [12:26]
mod6: ok [12:26]
mod6: check out this file: httpd-vhosts.conf [12:26]
mod6: probably under something like: /usr/local/etc/apache<VER>/extra/ [12:27]
lobbes: looks [12:28]
lobbes: hmm I am using 'apache2' it would seem. 'find' yielded no httpd-vhosts.conf [12:31]
lobbes: but grepping apache2.conf shows something regarding vhosts [12:31]
mircea_popescu: lobbes i don't think i can use directories in a dns zonbe [12:33]
mircea_popescu: it'lkl break the internets [12:33]
lobbes: hmm, kind of a shoddy workaround idea, but I could just make the main index.html forward to the correct directory [12:36]
lobbes: since it appeared to work earlier when http://log.minigame.bz/ pointed to http://192.121.170.137/ [12:36]
lobbes: thanks mod6 :) found it [12:37]
lobbes: excuse my n00bness [12:37]
mod6: no worries :] [12:39]
lobbes: gotta run for a sec. bbs [12:43]
mircea_popescu: this is the b-a stelar system, where we learn things! [12:49]
chetty: server reset in 5 [15:03]
mod6: ok thx [15:03]
lobbes: excellent, with a little help from mod6 http://logs.minigame.bz is now serving up #eulora logs [15:08]
chetty: woohoo thank you all [15:09]
lobbes: chetty, old link is borked at the moment, so would you be able to update the title to this new addy? :] [15:10]
chetty: will do [15:10]
chetty: server back up [15:11]
mod6: \o/ [15:12]
chetty: theory says this update fixed the disappearing claims and the crashes from old keys [15:13]
jurov: and made them reappear? [15:17]
jurov: looks hopefully [15:18]
mod6: is server back up? [15:18]
chetty: afraid that one is beyond me, reappearing ... yes server is up [15:18]
jurov: ;) [15:19]
mod6: nice [15:20]
chetty: I added some logging stuff to try an figure out the overweight and other oddities that seem to have poped up so do say something here if you notice anything like that [15:22]
mod6: cool [15:22]
mod6: dangit, got warped [15:22]
chetty: logged on and died? well done [15:22]
mod6: ah, not quite. logged in, walked 3 steps, then warped. im checking out the very edges near the water [15:23]
jurov: lmo and i thought i'm original doing that [15:24]
jurov: anyway, there was an anonymous flotsam right before me when i logged in [15:24]
chetty: ahh, I think I got the land a little too close to the edge in one spot there, but not gonna fix cause there is update coming which will fix it [15:24]
mod6: ah [15:25]
mod6: cool [15:25]
jurov: i thought you already fixed the south side, i was not able to go so far to isles before [15:25]
jurov: (with phat flotsams hidden there) [15:26]
mod6: oh yeah, so this point near: -403, 31, 399 has the edge wrapped up over the edge of the land. [15:34]
mod6: 'tis one spot i've hardly explored. [15:34]
diana_coman: mod6 if you still need tools, I'm back in [15:44]
diana_coman: and I got them [15:44]
mod6: ah nice. im a ways from where you are. [15:47]
mod6: i'm good for a moment, but yeah, if you wanna meet me, i'll buy. [15:48]
mod6: meet me just south of the fountain? [15:48]
jurov: mod6 don't buy from her, she will soar with skills and cause your output to deteriorate [15:49]
mod6: haha [15:49]
mod6: im so low in skill anyway; newbs not effected [15:50]
jurov: is an equipment to mine on unmanageable precipitous slopes planned? [15:57]
diana_coman: lol jurov it's not the fact that he buys that improves my skills [15:58]
diana_coman: I'll make tons of tools anyway, as I need them [15:59]
diana_coman: and that's what will improve my skills [15:59]
diana_coman: buying the tools will just help him get more from the things he harvests [15:59]
diana_coman: but hey [15:59]
mod6: and we have some shortages, so the Solid Branch Cargo Cult needs to capitalize [16:00]
diana_coman: and yeah, I buy from him what he harvests, as I need them (although I could mine them myself, of course, and even better quality + "not let him increase his mining skill" [16:00]
jurov: mod6 at least you mine enough material to make the tool? [16:09]
jurov: (if diana makes it) [16:10]
mod6: oh yeah. im strip mining this place [16:10]
mod6: i think she's using my harvested items anyway... [16:12]
jurov: guess whole thing can't really be helped [16:14]
mod6: WARP [16:14]
mod6: what's that? [16:14]
jurov: ? [16:16]
mod6: nm [16:17]
diana_coman: jurov, you might want to sell the slag as such really [16:21]
diana_coman: you get to make exp too as you can make more [16:21]
jurov: for how much? [16:25]
diana_coman: it depends on the quality, but the nominal price is what the merchant would give you really [16:26]
jurov: well. i base my prices on what the merchant takes [16:26]
jurov: quite a difference [16:27]
jurov: :D [16:27]
diana_coman: ahahahaha [16:27]
diana_coman: lol [16:27]
diana_coman: true, but I doubt you'll find anyone paying that price for slag [16:27]
jurov: not today [16:28]
diana_coman: applying the same approach, I should then calculate my price for making a tool from you bundle something like (tool quality - bundle quality)+5000 or some such [16:29]
diana_coman: so well, it's really up to you, which approach you want to take [16:29]
jurov: 5000 isn't so much, really [16:29]
diana_coman: no, it's quite little for tools, true, but would you be happy to pay it in addition to what others pay? lol [16:30]
jurov: why me extra? [16:31]
diana_coman: because of the way you calculate the prices you ask others to pay when buying from you [16:31]
diana_coman: this is what I mean, lol [16:31]
chetty: maybe his crafters mark will be worth it someday, collectors item [16:33]
diana_coman: ha ha, that's true chetty [16:34]
diana_coman: :) [16:34]
diana_coman: I'm fighting with a bundle ... [16:34]
diana_coman: which doesn't want to be made into the itme [16:34]
diana_coman: item [16:34]
diana_coman: I have the right recipe [16:34]
jurov: how else am i to get at least roughly even? [16:35]
diana_coman: and I get again the messages with gathering exp instead of tinkering [16:35]
diana_coman: by collaborating jurov, really [16:35]
jurov: so far i "collaborated" only by paying and paying [16:35]
diana_coman: how is that? [16:35]
diana_coman: look, grenadine and mod have been mining stuff a lot and selling it and getting tools in return (or better quality threads and bits of nothing so that they might also get better loot when mining) [16:36]
diana_coman: and they are improving their skills surely [16:36]
jurov: because you got lucky with skills in the beginning [16:37]
diana_coman: geeez jurov, how did I get "lucky"? [16:37]
diana_coman: and then mp got even luckier, or how is that? [16:37]
jurov: i did not know how to trade with heina, so was stuck at 23 for a long time [16:37]
diana_coman: but exp points still accumulated [16:38]
jurov: no, they get wiped on every level gained [16:38]
diana_coman: no, not all [16:38]
diana_coman: only what was needed for that level [16:38]
jurov: in my case, they were [16:38]
diana_coman: that just means you had only enough for that level [16:38]
chetty: diana_coman, log says missing item for some reason [16:38]
diana_coman: uhm [16:38]
diana_coman: well, meanwhile it made it [16:39]
diana_coman: and jurov, out of curiosity: did mp also get luckier? [16:39]
jurov: i do remember he or chetty writing to me "yes your practice was wiped you should have paid heina earlier" [16:40]
diana_coman: ahh, I missed that then, sorry [16:40]
chetty: you still very laggy today diana_coman ? [16:41]
diana_coman: it got better as I am hugging the modem [16:42]
diana_coman: but it was horrible some 30 minutes ago [16:42]
diana_coman: I'm in a village where they barely have one mobile operator in grand total, patchy electricity it seems (this morning it was on and off) and very, very low houses, lol [16:43]
jurov: anyway, for a long time, i did not mine practically anything even with good tools. if there were not glitches such as overabundant extraordinary claims, i'd have to spend far more than 5 million i did [16:43]
chetty: hihi I get reports on a couple of things if the time is really excessive, and the last time you logged of it beeped because it took so long to clear the disonnect [16:43]
diana_coman: I do wonder whether it's meant to be some special tourist experience and I had no idea about it, or what [16:43]
diana_coman: jurov I spent more than that [16:43]
jurov: with far better result per mil? [16:44]
jurov: neverming, this fucking game brings out the worst in me [16:44]
diana_coman: I don't think so; from what you say, the main difference seems to be that you decided quite early on that it was not paying off, while I just kept going (in all honesty because well, I wanted to do that, not as much wanting to get a profit or whatever) [16:45]
mod6: yeah, don't get frustrated. i decided to throw a bunch of coin at it on the hopes that eventually i'll be profitable. [16:46]
mod6: and if not, well, it was fun anyway. [16:46]
mod6: although, im getting there so ... win [16:46]
mod6: WARP [16:47]
diana_coman: exploring the edges of the world, mod? [16:47]
diana_coman: as they have here the very aptly named place "Land's End", lol [16:47]
mod6: hahaha ya [16:47]
mod6: i know mushrooms grow at night, so im bound to find something! [16:48]
diana_coman: ha ha, hope you find them :) [16:48]
diana_coman: oooo [16:49]
diana_coman: I got tiny wooly mushroom! [16:50]
chetty: ooo grats [16:50]
diana_coman: need to take a picture :))) [16:50]
mod6: waaat [16:50]
diana_coman: thank you chetty [16:50]
diana_coman: :) [16:50]
diana_coman: picture taken, proof secured, lol [16:50]
mod6: did you get that server message? haha [16:51]
diana_coman: ahahahah [16:51]
diana_coman: yes [16:51]
diana_coman: I'll have to make another journal entry soon, lol [16:51]
mod6: good work diana_coman [16:54]
diana_coman: thanks mod6 :) [16:54]
diana_coman: quite expensive mushrooms indeed given that I almost wore down an improved pickaxe [16:54]
diana_coman: but it feels good :D [16:54]
mod6: lol, you know how many i've worn down? [16:55]
diana_coman: well, this one only now [16:55]
diana_coman: I did not even count them all since I started looking for shrooms, slithy tove and crumbly rock [16:55]
mod6: i've gone through probably 15-20 improved tools. [16:55]
diana_coman: yeah :( [16:55]
mod6: it's all g though [16:55]
diana_coman: what can I say, I also destroyed one chetty stick without any good out of it :( [16:56]
diana_coman: well, I got a bloody stupid grub that I found otherwise on my own too [16:56]
diana_coman: so ... [16:56]
chetty: you got nothing from the chetty stick? [16:56]
diana_coman: and that was one hell of an expensive tool [16:56]
diana_coman: I got [16:56]
diana_coman: but it was that swarmy grub thing or how it's called [16:57]
diana_coman: and I had found that before on my own [16:57]
chetty: hmm how big was the claim? extra loots? [16:57]
diana_coman: no :( [16:57]
diana_coman: small claim, just a few items out of it [16:57]
diana_coman: with 7 threads, of course, but no luck [16:58]
diana_coman: well, it was only one, of course [16:58]
diana_coman: it seems to me that it might be far more cost-efficient to just improve my gathering skills a hell of a lot [16:58]
diana_coman: I mean: using the stick is very good but you need to also have quite some luck (or use a lot of them) [16:59]
mod6: WARP [17:04]
mod6: damnit [17:04]
chetty: I should make s pecial warp for mod6 [17:07]
mod6: hahaha [17:07]
mod6: warp me right off line [17:07]
mod6: or into pit of sorrows. [17:10]
diana_coman: jurov re lost claims, you know that mircea_popescu will respawn them (ordinary or bigger) if you just have the recipe, right? [17:31]
jurov: no [17:34]
mod6: oh neat, i better check my storage [17:36]
jurov: i have no ordinary or bigger recipe [17:38]
mircea_popescu: <jurov> neverming, this fucking game brings out the worst in me << haha looky here, just because the individualist streak in you never got a chance to stretch out before doesn't make you a bad person now. enjoy, have fun etc. [19:12]
mircea_popescu: fwiw, i am pretty sure you both misunderstand the importance of skills and misrepresent the evolution over time. [19:12]
mircea_popescu: it's neither a runaway race nor is it the case that not having skills equals death. [19:12]
mod6: got my first ordinary :D [19:51]
mircea_popescu: o wow wd. [19:56]
mircea_popescu: what is it ? [19:56]
mod6: Worthless Putrid Leather [19:57]
mircea_popescu: o hey. [19:58]
mircea_popescu: sadly i can't offer to help digging it up as your skill prolly exceeds mine. [19:58]
mircea_popescu: but got the materials you need ? [19:58]
mod6: na, i can get all but one, the deserted crab shell. [19:59]
mod6: but it's all good. i locked it. and i'll come back to it later. [19:59]
mod6: i've got like >100 of those anyway. [19:59]
mod6: (wpl's) [19:59]
mod6: thanks tho! [19:59]
mod6: mapping all this stuff takes time, hopefully it's good. [20:00]
mircea_popescu: i can pass you some shells. [20:00]
mircea_popescu: ah, youi got your own. coolness. [20:00]
mod6: ut oh; did /explore, nothing... boom [20:03]
hanbot: i had just joined. mebbe it didn't like the cut of my jib. [20:05]
hanbot: congrats on the leather ordinary mod6! [20:05]
mircea_popescu: up [20:07]
mod6: thanks hanbot :) [20:09]
mod6: thx mp [20:09]
mircea_popescu: you right clicked a dead key didn't you. [22:00]
mod6: me? [22:02]
mod6: lol, sorry no idea, i didn't click on anything. you just disappeared. [22:02]
mod6: i left the stuff there for ya. [22:02]
mod6: i think it was the same thing as before. was mining, meter bar didnt come up, waited ~30 seconds, hit it again. boom. [22:48]
mod6: on the bright side, i did make a nice haul on shiny rocks =] [22:49]
mircea_popescu: up [22:50]
mod6: thx [22:50]

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