#ossasepia Logs for 10 Apr 2020



April 22nd, 2020 by Diana Coman
diana_coman: http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/22/ossasepia-logs-for-09-Apr-2020#1024066 - heh, for fun and all that, I saw both approaches taken to the extreme indeed ("all in db!!" "all on disk!!"); extremes are extremes after all. [06:28]
ossabot: Logged on 2020-04-09 17:57:03 trinque: I worked for a guy once that very much did believe everything was better off living in the database, including all that. [06:28]
diana_coman: http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/22/ossasepia-logs-for-09-Apr-2020#1024061 - jfw, note that billymg brought up the things that are accessible/changeable currently via the UI, under Settings; and I went and looked there yesterday - there are things such as blog title, tagline, date and time format [06:29]
ossabot: Logged on 2020-04-09 17:40:05 jfw: http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/22/ossasepia-logs-for-09-Apr-2020#1023964 - this is true of course, "it's all just a bunch of ones and zeros anyway!" but I argue there is a meaningful distinction, similar to "code vs. data" even though code is a kind of data, and whether or not correctly realized as filesystem vs sql. Perhaps better put as presentation vs. content. [06:29]
diana_coman: otoh looking at the current wp-config.php, it's short and sweet, with a bunch of configs for Wordpress to know where & what db it's meant to use; which yes, it's where it should be and fine as it is but I do NOT want to have in there now crammed all the obscurantist knobs from settings, no [06:32]
diana_coman: jfw: in short, no, I am not pushing for some db-extremism, everything lives in the db, db config itself and circular definitions be damned; I am however pushing for keeping configs to a minimum, for moving indeed ALL content (that includes the blog title and the tagline(s), ffs!) and for NOT carrying blindly over "knobs and settings" just because "users are used to them". [06:35]
diana_coman: for moving indeed ALL content to the DB* [06:38]
diana_coman: (in principle I wouldn't even mind it all that much to move it instead all to the filesystem - the point is all in ONE place - but there are some advantages to choosing db over filesystem, at least currently so I'd stick with moving it all to the db) [06:39]
feedbot: http://bvt-trace.net/2020/04/vsh-parts-67-handling-orphans-and-updated-keccak/ << bvt's backtrace -- v.sh parts 6&7: handling orphans and updated Keccak [14:08]
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2020/erik-and-other-stories/ << Trilema -- Erik and other stories [15:08]
diana_coman: sonofawitch is my experimental bot in ~140 lines of code total (and no shitty flasks and whatnots); I'll let it hang around to see how it behaves; feel free to poke it I guess. [16:17]
diana_coman: (it shouldn't reply to any pokings) [16:17]
trinque: interesting! diana_coman written in what? [16:22]
diana_coman: trinque: gawk [16:22]
trinque: sonofawitch indeed lol [16:22]
diana_coman: runs on old 1.3 of centos 6 extraction [16:22]
trinque: would be interested to see this wonder [16:22]
trinque: what's opening sockets for it, netcat? [16:23]
trinque: or can gawk do this itself? [16:23]
diana_coman: trinque: https://www.gnu.org/software/gawk/manual/gawkinet/gawkinet.html#TCP-Connecting [16:23]
diana_coman: shall be back tomorrow [16:37]
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2020/il-divo/ << Trilema -- Il Divo [17:16]
feedbot: http://fixpoint.welshcomputing.com/2020/the-missing-adacore-public-download-index-vintage-2018-while-it-lasts/ << Fixpoint -- The missing Adacore public download index, vintage 2018, while it lasts [18:38]
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2020/idiocracy-the-movie-or-marion-tenailleau-is-a-stupid-cunt/ << Trilema -- Idiocracy the movie, or Marion Tenailleau is a stupid cunt. [23:03]

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