#ossasepia Logs for 18 Jul 2019

April 19th, 2020 by Diana Coman
shrysr: I just got started with using tmux! Love it.. also, figured out that running weechat in tmux on my vps might be a very convenient way to stay connected to IRC [00:13]
diana_coman: shrysr: in what way do you think that sourcehut is an answer (and to what exactly)? [02:38]
diana_coman: I suppose I'll end up writing a post on tools, huh [02:40]
diana_coman: anyway for starters, here's the republican main code repository http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=ffa&search= and an example of code view: http://btcbase.org/patches/ffa_ch1_genesis.kv [02:42]
diana_coman: as basic and most-useful tool, I certainly use screen; and an editor tweaked to be aware of ada+c/cpp but that's nowadays more often than not plain nano [02:43]
diana_coman: for irc it's irssi [02:43]
diana_coman: (again, poked and tweaked some) [02:43]
diana_coman: shrysr: make yourself a gpg key and register it with deedbot, for starters; you'll need it to get an eulora account anyway but more to the point: you need it so you can actually gain any reputation [02:45]
shrysr: I was thinking of sourcehut being a better answer to control over our content when compared to github. Sort of similar to what I thought about erpnext, as in, start off with a decent tool that can be extended and self-hosted, if desired. [10:34]
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shrysr: The developer has a post with some points of differentiation: https://drewdevault.com/2018/11/15/sr.ht-general-availability.html. I haven't used it much, but it felt like a tool that could be potentially more developer friendly, and focused on code (and related workflows), rather than being cluttered with stats of commits and stars. [10:34]
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shrysr: whoa I thought empty lines would be stripped or something. [10:35]
shrysr: Nano! I prefer nano to vi, but never considered the possibility of customising it. That's interesting and intuitively feels (more) efficient, like the Unix philosophy of tools that do one thing well. You make me wonder (more than usual) whether I should open my mind to doing things outside Emacs. [10:36]
shrysr: I do have a GPG key to encrypt my personal files, and access my VPS. But I've been wanting to know the principles better. I will look into this today. [10:37]
diana_coman: shrysr: V is the version control system around here and it's not "just another versioning system" - I'm calling it that because that's closest to some concept you have [14:50]
diana_coman: so regarding the version control, there is V and if you want to build some specific tooling/infrastructure for it, sure, why not [14:50]
diana_coman: just you know, be aware that your time (and anyone else's) is a *limited* resource and there is always the risk of the enthusiast - running around from one shiny thing to another and not getting anywhere (or getting burnt out before having anything to show for all the work) [14:51]
diana_coman: it's more common that you'd think and it's not a matter of "I'm brighter than that" - it's quite more often an affliction of the brightest not of the less bright [14:52]
diana_coman: re gpg (as re ~everything around here), there's again more to it than "just a key": [14:53]
diana_coman: I'd say my talk at Reading uni might be a good introduction for you too, did you find it already? and from there follow the links and read up on the WoT especially [14:53]
diana_coman: the point is: there is a LOT to take in; and I can help you so you don't get overwhelmed, but you need to make a plan, publish it, do, review; repeat [14:54]
diana_coman: shrysr: listen, what's the main thing holding you back re making your own blog on your own domain? having the keys to the thing and being able (for real) to destroy it IS "owning" by definition; no amount of hosting it on someone else's platform is going to do anything [14:55]
diana_coman: or I suppose if you really say that you are not there yet i.e. you are not yet sure enough to be independent, then fine, since you are effectively my apprentice around here, might as well set you up with an account on what will be apprentices' blog and that's that [14:58]
diana_coman: re vi - it's more my dislike of "modes"; I can work with it (when on a machine with nothing else) but I'd much rather not. [15:29]
diana_coman: this being said, tools are quite a personal matter - so use whatever fits *your* hands best as it were [15:30]
shrysr: I'm definitely *not* brighter than that. I do jump around topics a lot. It feels like the more I learn, the more I 'don't know', and the scope is always expanding with not much getting done. [16:16]
shrysr: I'm definitely *not* brighter than that! I do jump around topics a lot. It feels like the more I learn, the more I 'don't know', and the scope is always expanding. [16:16]
shrysr: Especially of late, and I've been worried about having nothing to show for my efforts. [16:16]
shrysr: I would deeply appreciate your help and guidance. That's why I'm here, and I'm willing to do what it takes to achieve excellence. [16:18]
shrysr: Re: my own domain - I did have a domain and wordpress based site some years ago and let it languish because it was cumbersome and unpleasant to manage with phpmydmin or whatever. Maybe I did not know enough. [16:20]
shrysr: Discovered static sites (Jekyll) ~2 years ago, which exactly what I wanted. I setup on github to begin with, and then about a year back - shifted to Hugo (noticeably faster build time) and the site you saw. [16:21]
shrysr: I actually have a domain name ready, and signed up for a VPS with Linode some months ago. The primary plan was to host my website, along with a server for shiny apps, and also having my email synced on the server. [16:22]
shrysr: re: gpg > I will go through your talk and the links and revert. Some holes were filled via google today and I get the idea much better than I did yesterday. [16:30]
shrysr: I will work on gettng my domain up and porting my website to it. [16:47]
shrysr: re: republican repo and V - how should I learn more? [16:58]
asciilifeform: shrysr: can start with the orig. draft of 'v' -- http://trilema.com/2015/no-such-labs-releases-v-for-victory/ . it's a ~3 page proggy. [17:42]
asciilifeform: ( literally. and not even particularly 'massaged' . ) [17:42]
shrysr: asciilifeform: proggy ? [17:43]
asciilifeform: python script, in this case. [17:43]
shrysr: :D Okay I will start with that. [17:44]
asciilifeform: various people added knobs later, but the basic functionality remains more or less same as in the prototype. [17:44]
shrysr: trilema.com seems to load a different page everytime i refresh ! :D [17:44]
asciilifeform: shrysr: he has it set to give random old article on each load of / . [17:45]
asciilifeform: shrysr: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000161.html << early example of vtronics. [17:47]
shrysr: asciilifeform: thank you. I'm on it. [17:49]

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