| Birdman: | diana_coman do you have any cs for sale | [00:04] |
| lobbesbot: | A#296 O=100mn HB=100mn E=07-16 19:43:48 (15h32) >>> 1 VSS q15050 | [00:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#298 O=113.6mn HB=113.6mn E=07-17 19:23:06 (39h11) >>> 7666 Assorted Library Mites q741 | [00:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#297 O=108.5mn HB=108.5mn E=07-17 19:20:33 (39h9) >>> 5085 Assorted Library Mites q1067 | [00:11] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 322.1mn total bids --- | [00:11] |
| Birdman: | also how do i address Merchant? /tell finds him offline | [00:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | Birdman use last name iirc | [00:14] |
| Birdman: | ah thanks | [00:15] |
| lobbesbot: | A#296 O=100mn HB=100mn E=07-16 19:43:48 (14h32) >>> 1 VSS q15050 | [01:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#298 O=113.6mn HB=113.6mn E=07-17 19:23:06 (38h11) >>> 7666 Assorted Library Mites q741 | [01:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#297 O=108.5mn HB=108.5mn E=07-17 19:20:33 (38h9) >>> 5085 Assorted Library Mites q1067 | [01:11] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 322.1mn total bids --- | [01:11] |
| diana_coman: | Mocky, bot got stuck (a few minutes after I left it, ofc) after 17 attempts, apparently because table was too far away to take stuff from it and it didn't know what to do | [02:18] |
| diana_coman: | I have "You are too far away to take items from that" in the main window | [02:18] |
| diana_coman: | and Taking output... 30 x Shiny Rock q64 30x Shiny Rock table[6] --> inventory[90] | [02:19] |
| diana_coman: | and it basically died there, probably waiting for a different message | [02:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | mocky is a bad person. | [02:20] |
| diana_coman: | that find on client behaviour is planeshit-characteristic really | [02:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | i'm just having a fun! | [02:28] |
| diana_coman: | the whole observed behaviour makes sense then: client insists on "still moving a bit, it's just a bit", server doesn't have anything to do with it and just tells the idiot back from time to time | [02:29] |
| diana_coman: | heh, welcome back to the game at any rate | [02:29] |
| diana_coman: | ze pops of mine were on lapidary fwiw | [02:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | nice. | [02:32] |
| diana_coman: | Mocky, crash: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/B0SEX/?raw=true | [02:35] |
| lobbesbot: | A#296 O=100mn HB=100mn E=07-16 19:43:48 (12h32) >>> 1 VSS q15050 | [03:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#298 O=113.6mn HB=113.6mn E=07-17 19:23:06 (36h11) >>> 7666 Assorted Library Mites q741 | [03:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#297 O=108.5mn HB=108.5mn E=07-17 19:20:33 (36h8) >>> 5085 Assorted Library Mites q1067 | [03:11] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 322.1mn total bids --- | [03:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | b0 sex crash | [03:19] |
| diana_coman: | 118 explores this time, table is full | [04:01] |
| diana_coman: | anyway better than the mini-runs that would last about 60 explores | [04:01] |
| diana_coman: | but it seems there is still quite some work to do before it can be left to explore 24 hours or more | [04:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | seems he's getting there, yeah | [04:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | i mean, this time there was a totally different error preventing 100\% any kind of mining for me :D | [04:06] |
| diana_coman: | ahaha, why u so easily preventable :P | [04:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | ikr. | [04:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#296 O=100mn HB=100mn E=07-16 19:43:48 (11h32) >>> 1 VSS q15050 | [04:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#298 O=113.6mn HB=113.6mn E=07-17 19:23:06 (35h11) >>> 7666 Assorted Library Mites q741 | [04:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#297 O=108.5mn HB=108.5mn E=07-17 19:20:33 (35h8) >>> 5085 Assorted Library Mites q1067 | [04:11] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 322.1mn total bids --- | [04:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | !Qcalc 14142 * 174.32 * 10 | [04:13] |
| lobbesbot: | mircea_popescu: 24652334.4 | [04:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | !QAuction 36mn 72 14142 CLD q17432 | [04:14] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 299 STARTED by mircea_popescu: 14142 CLD q17432 Opening: 36mn coppers Ending: 2018-07-19 08:14:43 UTC (72 hours) | [04:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman btw left a comment on blog | [04:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | which i've been re-reading, such great gems. http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/02/06/its-only-words-and-assumptions-and-priorities-and-ouch/ | [04:27] |
| diana_coman: | esthlos's project really is quite useful in unexpected ways, huh | [04:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | yup! | [04:44] |
| diana_coman: | !Qbid 299 36m | [05:04] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 299: 14142 CLD q17432 Heard: 36mn from diana_coman Ending: 2018-07-19 08:14:43 UTC (71 hours 10 mins) | [05:04] |
| diana_coman: | lobbes, does autobid place the initial bid as well if set? or do I always need to place the initial bid manually? | [05:04] |
| diana_coman: | congrats danielpbarron on the cld-fuelled pops | [05:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | o wow check him out. nice going. | [05:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | and look at that, hanbot is now #1 for the month | [05:06] |
| diana_coman: | o.O what pop was that even, I don't recall | [05:08] |
| diana_coman: | the ss? | [05:08] |
| diana_coman: | apparently mockybot really has about ~120 explores autonomy | [05:09] |
| diana_coman: | on the bright side, I still got ~6k sr out of it so not that bad for starters | [05:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | tru. | [05:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#296 O=100mn HB=100mn E=07-16 19:43:48 (10h32) >>> 1 VSS q15050 | [05:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#299 O=36mn HB=36mn E=07-19 08:14:43 (71h3) >>> 14142 CLD q17432 | [05:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#298 O=113.6mn HB=113.6mn E=07-17 19:23:06 (34h11) >>> 7666 Assorted Library Mites q741 | [05:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#297 O=108.5mn HB=108.5mn E=07-17 19:20:33 (34h8) >>> 5085 Assorted Library Mites q1067 | [05:11] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 358.1mn total bids --- | [05:11] |
| danielpbarron: | !Qbid 299 37mn | [05:20] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 299: 14142 CLD q17432 Heard: 37mn from danielpbarron overbidding diana_coman Ending: 2018-07-19 08:14:43 UTC (70 hours 54 mins) | [05:20] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 299: AUTO-BID Heard: 40.333mn from danielpbarron overbidding danielpbarron and 1 other auto-bid(s) Ending: 2018-07-19 08:14:43 UTC (70 hours 54 mins) | [05:20] |
| diana_coman: | Mocky, btw is it possible to have the mixing (same, on bands of q) separate as well? i.e. as command such as /bot mix ? | [05:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | ya good idea. | [05:34] |
| diana_coman: | !QAuction 1m 48 14657 SR q72 | [05:36] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 300 STARTED by diana_coman: 14657 SR q72 Opening: 1m coppers Ending: 2018-07-18 09:36:26 UTC (48 hours) | [05:36] |
| diana_coman: | !QAuction 1.3m 48 18892 F q65 | [05:47] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 301 STARTED by diana_coman: 18892 F q65 Opening: 1.3m coppers Ending: 2018-07-18 09:47:25 UTC (48 hours) | [05:47] |
| lobbesbot: | A#301 O=1.3mn HB=No bids E=07-18 09:47:25 (47h35) >>> 18892 F q65 | [06:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#296 O=100mn HB=100mn E=07-16 19:43:48 (9h32) >>> 1 VSS q15050 | [06:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#300 O=1mn HB=No bids E=07-18 09:36:26 (47h24) >>> 14657 SR q72 | [06:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#299 O=36mn HB=40.333mn E=07-19 08:14:43 (70h3) >>> 14142 CLD q17432 | [06:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#298 O=113.6mn HB=113.6mn E=07-17 19:23:06 (33h11) >>> 7666 Assorted Library Mites q741 | [06:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#297 O=108.5mn HB=108.5mn E=07-17 19:20:33 (33h8) >>> 5085 Assorted Library Mites q1067 | [06:11] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 362.433mn total bids --- | [06:11] |
| diana_coman: | Mocky, bot now got stuck but it doesn't report any error; it took stuff from claim, it made 2 moves and...that's it; last in main window "You finished working" ; last in bot window: "1x Nondescript Tubers inventory[62] --> table[8]; last in console: queueing move to new slot: inv:62 x1 --> tab: | [06:29] |
| lobbesbot: | A#301 O=1.3mn HB=No bids E=07-18 09:47:25 (46h35) >>> 18892 F q65 | [07:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#296 O=100mn HB=100mn E=07-16 19:43:48 (8h32) >>> 1 VSS q15050 | [07:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#300 O=1mn HB=No bids E=07-18 09:36:26 (46h24) >>> 14657 SR q72 | [07:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#299 O=36mn HB=40.333mn E=07-19 08:14:43 (69h3) >>> 14142 CLD q17432 | [07:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#298 O=113.6mn HB=113.6mn E=07-17 19:23:06 (32h11) >>> 7666 Assorted Library Mites q741 | [07:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#297 O=108.5mn HB=108.5mn E=07-17 19:20:33 (32h8) >>> 5085 Assorted Library Mites q1067 | [07:11] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 362.433mn total bids --- | [07:11] |
| diana_coman: | !Qbid 299 40.5m | [08:09] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 299: 14142 CLD q17432 Heard: 40.5mn from diana_coman overbidding danielpbarron Ending: 2018-07-19 08:14:43 UTC (68 hours 5 mins) | [08:09] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 299: AUTO-BID Heard: 48.5mn from diana_coman overbidding diana_coman and 1 other auto-bid(s) Ending: 2018-07-19 08:14:43 UTC (68 hours 5 mins) | [08:09] |
| diana_coman: | lobbes, it seems that autobid does *not* get triggered unless I manually bid first; not even at the time when it prints the list of active auctions again; wouldn't it make more sense if it actually triggered as soon as one set it? | [08:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#301 O=1.3mn HB=No bids E=07-18 09:47:25 (45h35) >>> 18892 F q65 | [08:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#296 O=100mn HB=100mn E=07-16 19:43:48 (7h32) >>> 1 VSS q15050 | [08:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#300 O=1mn HB=No bids E=07-18 09:36:26 (45h24) >>> 14657 SR q72 | [08:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#299 O=36mn HB=48.5mn E=07-19 08:14:43 (68h3) >>> 14142 CLD q17432 | [08:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#298 O=113.6mn HB=113.6mn E=07-17 19:23:06 (31h11) >>> 7666 Assorted Library Mites q741 | [08:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#297 O=108.5mn HB=108.5mn E=07-17 19:20:33 (31h8) >>> 5085 Assorted Library Mites q1067 | [08:11] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 370.6mn total bids --- | [08:11] |
| Mocky: | diana_coman, re: stuck after "too far away to take items from that" , i think I'll need more error handling for those transfers | [09:51] |
| Mocky: | mircea_popescu, bad person? I don't think I like your attitude young man | [09:52] |
| diana_coman: | Mocky, it might be overall a bit too brittle, see later on the issue where it just hung up apparently waiting for something after requesting a move to table | [09:59] |
| diana_coman: | fwiw I kept trying it throughout today but it seems only to have gotten worse i.e. the tool wasting is very frequent and costly | [10:00] |
| Mocky: | yeah the new stuff I just put in for stacking transfers seems particularly brittle | [10:02] |
| Mocky: | tool wasting with the "moved" problem? | [10:02] |
| diana_coman: | precisely, yes | [10:02] |
| Mocky: | re: separate command for mixing, it should work on just the targeted table, not inv, and restack everything? | [10:06] |
| diana_coman: | Mocky, it can work on inv only most convenient (since you can always do a take all and there are more slots in inv); but at any rate, even if it works on table only or on table and inv it's still fine, the important part is to have it so one can mix stuff automatically outside of a mining run | [10:08] |
| diana_coman: | Mocky, oh, and probably best with some way of specifying *what* item to restack | [10:08] |
| Mocky: | right ok | [10:08] |
| diana_coman: | I suppose that would be a pro table so you don't have to specify, hm | [10:08] |
| lobbesbot: | A#301 O=1.3mn HB=No bids E=07-18 09:47:25 (43h35) >>> 18892 F q65 | [10:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#296 O=100mn HB=100mn E=07-16 19:43:48 (5h32) >>> 1 VSS q15050 | [10:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#300 O=1mn HB=No bids E=07-18 09:36:26 (43h24) >>> 14657 SR q72 | [10:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#299 O=36mn HB=48.5mn E=07-19 08:14:43 (66h3) >>> 14142 CLD q17432 | [10:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#298 O=113.6mn HB=113.6mn E=07-17 19:23:06 (29h11) >>> 7666 Assorted Library Mites q741 | [10:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#297 O=108.5mn HB=108.5mn E=07-17 19:20:33 (29h8) >>> 5085 Assorted Library Mites q1067 | [10:11] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 370.6mn total bids --- | [10:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman his code style isn't even that terrible, is it ? and improving rapidly, at that. | [11:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | hey Mocky what do you do for a day job ? | [11:24] |
| Mocky: | I code java, mainly backend web application stuff, some front end web. | [11:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | what would you need to quit that dumb shit and dedicate yourself full time to making eulora client that doesn't suck ass ? | [11:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | (it's ok, you don't have to answer this very minute. you got a day or most of one or something.) | [11:30] |
| Mocky: | that's a good question. im thinking about it | [11:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | too quick for ya!!! | [11:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | Mocky you know the babu the pakistani from seinfeld ? VERY BADMAN! | [11:31] |
| Mocky: | very very bad man! | [11:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [11:33] |
| diana_coman: | <mircea_popescu> diana_coman his code style isn't even that terrible, is it ? and improving rapidly, at that. -> quite so, yes! | [11:33] |
| Mocky: | mircea_popescu, I would need 7500 usd / month or similar. | [12:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | Mocky i'd have thought java websiting is more in the 60k a year ~before tax~ range ? | [12:06] |
| Mocky: | not when you're the lead dev with 20 years experience | [12:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | well when you're the lead dev with 20 years experience one can't even talk salary with you, they're stuck saying yes. | [12:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | but tell me, ever thought of going into business for yourself ? | [12:10] |
| Mocky: | every day | [12:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | let's approach it that way. what'd you need to make eulora client writing a business ? | [12:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#301 O=1.3mn HB=No bids E=07-18 09:47:25 (41h35) >>> 18892 F q65 | [12:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#296 O=100mn HB=100mn E=07-16 19:43:48 (3h32) >>> 1 VSS q15050 | [12:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#300 O=1mn HB=No bids E=07-18 09:36:26 (41h24) >>> 14657 SR q72 | [12:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#299 O=36mn HB=48.5mn E=07-19 08:14:43 (64h3) >>> 14142 CLD q17432 | [12:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#298 O=113.6mn HB=113.6mn E=07-17 19:23:06 (27h11) >>> 7666 Assorted Library Mites q741 | [12:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#297 O=108.5mn HB=108.5mn E=07-17 19:20:33 (27h8) >>> 5085 Assorted Library Mites q1067 | [12:11] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 370.6mn total bids --- | [12:11] |
| diana_coman: | Mocky, you might want to follow the discussion in #trilema as it touches on intended paradigm re clients | [12:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | i imagine he's following, lol. | [12:12] |
| diana_coman: | just-in-case! | [12:12] |
| Mocky: | not caught up yet since this morning | [12:12] |
| diana_coman: | it's live! | [12:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [12:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | it comes alive at night... and fucks your wife!!1 | [12:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman i tell you, i looked at some pic of his intel fished out, he looked like 25. i've nfi how he's been lead deving since diapers or what! | [12:14] |
| Mocky: | my black don't crack | [12:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol. | [12:15] |
| diana_coman: | even in the pictures I saw on his blog, he didn't look that old; and yeah, 20 years lead dev exp means Mocky's got to be older than me? o.O | [12:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm. hey Mocky, is it 20 or is it more "rounded to the closest 20" like they do in cvs ? | [12:17] |
| diana_coman: | and is it 20 yrs experience being lead dev or 20 years experience since first touched keyboard or what? | [12:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol. diana_coman looky, it's no shame being young! POTENTIAL! | [12:18] |
| Mocky: | the 20 years figure is rounded... | [12:19] |
| Mocky: | down | [12:19] |
| diana_coman: | certainly no shame! | [12:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | hahaha | [12:19] |
| Mocky: | lead dev experience is only 17 years | [12:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | Mocky do you particularly like teh cpw ? | [12:20] |
| Mocky: | cpw? | [12:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | current place of work. | [12:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | i dunno, and don't misunderstand me as trying to tell you your business ; but to my meagre faculties, if you've spent 17 years making 7k a month there's no way in hell you ~need~ anything. so it's more in the vein of "i need you buncha putative clowns make it reliably plain to me that you aren't a buncha clowns." | [12:22] |
| Mocky: | i like the folx i work with, I don't enjoy the work and would be happy to leave. im not trying to bring my personal life out, but raised 7 kids to adulthood, and currently going thru divorce so that's the way in hell, lol | [12:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | so bring the folx you work with over. | [12:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | and i don't mean to be... cruel, let's say, but : bitcoin you get is bitcoin you get. unlike the devil's 7500 leaves a month, there's nobody anywhere going to randomly decide to take half of it back to the government later on. | [12:25] |
| Mocky: | i like em good enuf but not that good, lol | [12:26] |
| Mocky: | i hear that, and agree | [12:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, as they say this matter shall require more thinking. | [12:27] |
| Mocky: | but my life decisions put me in a place today where I do need things | [12:28] |
| Mocky: | i'm getting myself out of that, but not out yet | [12:28] |
| lobbesbot: | A#301 O=1.3mn HB=No bids E=07-18 09:47:25 (40h35) >>> 18892 F q65 | [13:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#296 O=100mn HB=100mn E=07-16 19:43:48 (2h32) >>> 1 VSS q15050 | [13:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#300 O=1mn HB=No bids E=07-18 09:36:26 (40h24) >>> 14657 SR q72 | [13:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#299 O=36mn HB=48.5mn E=07-19 08:14:43 (63h3) >>> 14142 CLD q17432 | [13:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#298 O=113.6mn HB=113.6mn E=07-17 19:23:06 (26h11) >>> 7666 Assorted Library Mites q741 | [13:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#297 O=108.5mn HB=108.5mn E=07-17 19:20:33 (26h8) >>> 5085 Assorted Library Mites q1067 | [13:11] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 370.6mn total bids --- | [13:11] |
| diana_coman: | after actually looking at Mocky's linked in page it would seem for all I can tell that he actually IS older than me! | [13:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | everyone's older than you. this is a discovery ? | [13:28] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, ahaha; it is! | [13:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | mazel tov. | [13:29] |
| Mocky: | i was teaching java for sun microsystems on this day in 1998, shit, i learned java before there was a single book published on java | [13:29] |
| lobbesbot: | A#301 O=1.3mn HB=No bids E=07-18 09:47:25 (39h35) >>> 18892 F q65 | [14:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#296 O=100mn HB=100mn E=07-16 19:43:48 (1h32) >>> 1 VSS q15050 | [14:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#300 O=1mn HB=No bids E=07-18 09:36:26 (39h24) >>> 14657 SR q72 | [14:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#299 O=36mn HB=48.5mn E=07-19 08:14:43 (62h3) >>> 14142 CLD q17432 | [14:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#298 O=113.6mn HB=113.6mn E=07-17 19:23:06 (25h11) >>> 7666 Assorted Library Mites q741 | [14:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#297 O=108.5mn HB=108.5mn E=07-17 19:20:33 (25h8) >>> 5085 Assorted Library Mites q1067 | [14:11] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 370.6mn total bids --- | [14:11] |
| Mocky: | oh shit, linkedin. I forgot i had a profile on there. and looky there's hella mocky's on there now. ftr i was the first. also that pic is from 2004 lol | [14:16] |
| diana_coman: | Mocky, it's ok, I don't even recall what is on my profile there, lol | [14:16] |
| lobbes: | http://logs.minigame.biz/2018-07-15.log.html#t23:24:44 << This is indeed a bug. I think I know the issue too. Once the new auctionbot is out (based off of logbot proper) I am going to redo the entire eulora logs to be more like ben_vulpes' various logotrons (i.e. fed from logbot instead of from znc logs). This bug will be squashed in the process | [14:46] |
| lobbesbot: | Logged on 2018-07-15 23:24:44: <mircea_popescu> lobbesbot specifically what i mean is , http://logs.minigame.biz/search/?q=SOLD+to doesnt' show http://logs.minigame.biz/2018-07-15.log.html#t06:30:38 | [14:46] |
| lobbes: | http://logs.minigame.biz/2018-07-16.log.html#t12:10:18 << agreed. The autobid feature is also due for a recode as, imo, I did a poor job designing the thing. A proper autobidder is also on my list after Auctionbot 2.0 is out | [14:58] |
| lobbesbot: | Logged on 2018-07-16 12:10:18: <diana_coman> lobbes, it seems that autobid does *not* get triggered unless I manually bid first; not even at the time when it prints the list of active auctions again; wouldn't it make more sense if it actually triggered as soon as one set it? | [14:58] |
| lobbesbot: | A#301 O=1.3mn HB=No bids E=07-18 09:47:25 (38h35) >>> 18892 F q65 | [15:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#296 O=100mn HB=100mn E=07-16 19:43:48 (0h32) >>> 1 VSS q15050 | [15:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#300 O=1mn HB=No bids E=07-18 09:36:26 (38h24) >>> 14657 SR q72 | [15:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#299 O=36mn HB=48.5mn E=07-19 08:14:43 (61h3) >>> 14142 CLD q17432 | [15:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#298 O=113.6mn HB=113.6mn E=07-17 19:23:06 (24h11) >>> 7666 Assorted Library Mites q741 | [15:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#297 O=108.5mn HB=108.5mn E=07-17 19:20:33 (24h8) >>> 5085 Assorted Library Mites q1067 | [15:11] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 370.6mn total bids --- | [15:11] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 296 has ENDED: 1 VSS q15050 SOLD to hanbot for 100mn coppers. Attn: mircea_popescu | [15:44] |
| lobbesbot: | A#301 O=1.3mn HB=No bids E=07-18 09:47:25 (37h35) >>> 18892 F q65 | [16:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#300 O=1mn HB=No bids E=07-18 09:36:26 (37h24) >>> 14657 SR q72 | [16:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#299 O=36mn HB=48.5mn E=07-19 08:14:43 (60h3) >>> 14142 CLD q17432 | [16:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#298 O=113.6mn HB=113.6mn E=07-17 19:23:06 (23h11) >>> 7666 Assorted Library Mites q741 | [16:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#297 O=108.5mn HB=108.5mn E=07-17 19:20:33 (23h8) >>> 5085 Assorted Library Mites q1067 | [16:11] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 270.6mn total bids --- | [16:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | !Qcalc 14657*.72*79 | [18:46] |
| lobbesbot: | mircea_popescu: 833690.16 | [18:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | !Qbid 301 1.3mn | [18:46] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 301: 18892 F q65 Heard: 1.3mn from mircea_popescu Ending: 2018-07-18 09:47:25 UTC (35 hours 1 mins) | [18:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | !Qbid 300 1mn | [18:46] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 300: 14657 SR q72 Heard: 1mn from mircea_popescu Ending: 2018-07-18 09:36:26 UTC (34 hours 50 mins) | [18:46] |
| lobbesbot: | A#301 O=1.3mn HB=1.3mn E=07-18 09:47:25 (34h35) >>> 18892 F q65 | [19:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#300 O=1mn HB=1mn E=07-18 09:36:26 (34h24) >>> 14657 SR q72 | [19:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#299 O=36mn HB=48.5mn E=07-19 08:14:43 (57h3) >>> 14142 CLD q17432 | [19:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#298 O=113.6mn HB=113.6mn E=07-17 19:23:06 (20h11) >>> 7666 Assorted Library Mites q741 | [19:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#297 O=108.5mn HB=108.5mn E=07-17 19:20:33 (20h8) >>> 5085 Assorted Library Mites q1067 | [19:11] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 272.9mn total bids --- | [19:11] |
| Mocky: | mircea_popescu, the number i gave earlier was wrong, that would be ~before tax~ number to be salaryman. taxes aside the number would 6300 for salaryman. but my salaryman days are numbered, i don't need the comfort and security and I'm going to be starting my own thing soon one way or another. so in terms of what would i need to to make eulora client writing my business, are you asking me what would I be willing to | [19:52] |
| Mocky: | live on if I drop the salary expectation and replace it with expectation of building a business? | [19:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | i guess so. | [19:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | salaryman model... it's just not a great fit. not for human being, neither for the republic, nor for this task. it's just... like being "husband", sheer nonsense borne out of nothing whatsoever. | [20:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | !Qcalc 75/63 | [20:02] |
| lobbesbot: | mircea_popescu: 1.19047619048 | [20:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | i can't believe income tax for 100k a year is <20\%. | [20:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | check it out, he's actually right, federal income tax is like 13k on 90k gross. | [20:03] |
| Mocky: | eh, obamacare: rediculously expensive, yet untaxed | [20:03] |
| Mocky: | spend thousands a year on insurance so i can get one 5 dollar script for free | [20:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | hey, "science" right. | [20:05] |
| Mocky: | i don't have mcmansion or mortgage or car payments or even enough possessions to fill an suv, i flensed 90\% of the shit out of my life. | [20:09] |
| danielpbarron: | !QBid 301 1.4mn | [20:11] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 301: 18892 F q65 Heard: 1.4mn from danielpbarron overbidding mircea_popescu Ending: 2018-07-18 09:47:25 UTC (33 hours 35 mins) | [20:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#301 O=1.3mn HB=1.4mn E=07-18 09:47:25 (33h35) >>> 18892 F q65 | [20:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#300 O=1mn HB=1mn E=07-18 09:36:26 (33h24) >>> 14657 SR q72 | [20:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#299 O=36mn HB=48.5mn E=07-19 08:14:43 (56h3) >>> 14142 CLD q17432 | [20:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#298 O=113.6mn HB=113.6mn E=07-17 19:23:06 (19h11) >>> 7666 Assorted Library Mites q741 | [20:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#297 O=108.5mn HB=108.5mn E=07-17 19:20:33 (19h8) >>> 5085 Assorted Library Mites q1067 | [20:11] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 273mn total bids --- | [20:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | Mocky seems to me i found the better move here anyway. go check out uruguay. who knows what you find there. | [20:12] |
| Mocky: | ok I'll do, but how does minigame subsidize me making my own business? | [20:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | i don't know yet. but there's evident synnergy, you want clients installed, minigame wants clients installed, there's a natural community of purpose while there's also a natural benefit in separation. | [20:14] |
| danielpbarron: | !Qbid 299 49mn | [20:15] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 299: 14142 CLD q17432 Heard: 49mn from danielpbarron overbidding diana_coman Ending: 2018-07-19 08:14:43 UTC (55 hours 59 mins) | [20:15] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 299: AUTO-BID Heard: 49.85mn from danielpbarron overbidding danielpbarron and 1 other auto-bid(s) Ending: 2018-07-19 08:14:43 UTC (55 hours 59 mins) | [20:15] |
| Mocky: | i have no reservations btw, i'm in if we can find a way to do it that lets me meet my meet my obligations | [20:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | i read the above http://logs.minigame.biz/2018-07-17.log.html#t00:09:50 as "i don't have any obligations" ? | [20:18] |
| lobbesbot: | Logged on 2018-07-17 00:09:50: <Mocky> i don't have mcmansion or mortgage or car payments or even enough possessions to fill an suv, i flensed 90\% of the shit out of my life. | [20:18] |
| Mocky: | still 10\% left | [20:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm ? | [20:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh. | [20:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | nevertheless, in the strictest terms and proceeding from prime principles : in the likely case that you want to build your business in the line you spent most of your life working, ie software, it is unlikely you can find a better deal than working for minigame to spread eulora client love across the lands. | [20:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | whatever you do, it'll be "a) come up with some kind of software that b) has some sort of claim to market relevancy that c) people can be persuaded to use". what's the competition to a, "let's spend two years relocating ~5mn from pension funds to sf real estate racket while trying to produce a new way to market dogfood to mobile" ? | [20:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | personally i'd rather spend the time playing chess with mongoloid kids ; and i suspect this "personally" is as impersonal as it gets, tied to intelligence rather than personality. | [20:41] |
| Mocky: | I've been looking at software jobs. trying to find software work that doesn't involve "social media", disrupting bullshit, monetizing eyeballs, government contracts, etc is near impossible. that leaves like oil industry, logistics companies. most game industry jobs are sweatshops. amazon keeps calling but don't think i could do that. | [20:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | right. | [20:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | i keep saying "it's the republic or the highway", and for a reason. i got a whole fucking intel dept, i know what's going on. | [20:48] |
| Mocky: | i believe | [20:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | now, in fairness, somewthing like maersk might pay well. i've got a girl sleeping there, and she likes it. | [20:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | however, with your background odds are it's gonna be mobile something, and those... well... | [20:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | fucking suck, what. you should have made java cooler. | [20:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | the ~only usage for mobile that's not fucktarded is exactly that, the tools used by hamburg sud trucks or oil rig contractors etc. | [20:55] |
| Mocky: | well in the universe where I don't end up working on eulora, I probably keep my current undemanding job and start something non-software related on the side. biker gear or hiker gear or something. dun have to get big, so long as it pays the bills i can get free of salary life and write software that i enjoy, like bot shit | [21:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | certainly. | [21:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | or you could decide you much prefer paying 0 tax, move to the republica oriental, keep a venezoelana and a columbiana and make gallo pinto. | [21:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | or or or. the roads ahead are infinite, and all the choices are yours to make! | [21:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | so choose wisely! | [21:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | good luck! | [21:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | ever played mm5 ? | [21:07] |
| Mocky: | mega man? | [21:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | might & magic : for blood & honor | [21:09] |
| Mocky: | oh, no | [21:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | ahahaha what! really, missed out on j v caneghem's work ?! | [21:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, 6 not 5. 5 was derpier. | [21:10] |
| Mocky: | never looked appealing for some reason | [21:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | not much of a fantasy genre kid ? | [21:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#301 O=1.3mn HB=1.4mn E=07-18 09:47:25 (32h35) >>> 18892 F q65 | [21:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#300 O=1mn HB=1mn E=07-18 09:36:26 (32h24) >>> 14657 SR q72 | [21:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#299 O=36mn HB=49.85mn E=07-19 08:14:43 (55h3) >>> 14142 CLD q17432 | [21:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#298 O=113.6mn HB=113.6mn E=07-17 19:23:06 (18h11) >>> 7666 Assorted Library Mites q741 | [21:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#297 O=108.5mn HB=108.5mn E=07-17 19:20:33 (18h8) >>> 5085 Assorted Library Mites q1067 | [21:11] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 274.35mn total bids --- | [21:11] |
| Mocky: | i guess not. lot of rpgs, but mostly mmo. | [21:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | aha | [21:30] |
| lobbesbot: | A#301 O=1.3mn HB=1.4mn E=07-18 09:47:25 (31h35) >>> 18892 F q65 | [22:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#300 O=1mn HB=1mn E=07-18 09:36:26 (31h24) >>> 14657 SR q72 | [22:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#299 O=36mn HB=49.85mn E=07-19 08:14:43 (54h2) >>> 14142 CLD q17432 | [22:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#298 O=113.6mn HB=113.6mn E=07-17 19:23:06 (17h11) >>> 7666 Assorted Library Mites q741 | [22:11] |
| lobbesbot: | A#297 O=108.5mn HB=108.5mn E=07-17 19:20:33 (17h8) >>> 5085 Assorted Library Mites q1067 | [22:11] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 274.35mn total bids --- | [22:11] |
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