#eulora Logs for 20 Jun 2018



June 20th, 2018 by Diana Coman
lobbes: mircea_popescu: price history link added to http://logs.minigame.biz [00:45]
mircea_popescu: yay ty [00:45]
lobbes: incidentally, I updated roughly two dozen auction ids with item data. Still have a handful I need to research, but I'll either figure em out or report back with q's [00:46]
mircea_popescu: we'll prolly need a namechange for the So's [00:47]
lobbes: word, lemme know. Fairly trivial to tweak the item ids [00:53]
mircea_popescu: kk [00:54]
lobbesbot: A#237 O=32.2mn HB=32.2mn E=06-21 19:19:29 (38h5) >>> 500k F q61 [01:14]
lobbesbot: A#226 O=205mn HB=205mn E=06-22 23:38:45 (66h24) >>> 745 WOA q903 [01:14]
lobbesbot: A#227 O=6mn HB=6mn E=06-21 19:36:44 (38h22) >>> 12 SoL q1735 [01:14]
lobbesbot: A#228 O=6mn HB=6mn E=06-21 19:36:44 (38h22) >>> 12 SoM q1735 [01:14]
lobbesbot: A#229 O=6mn HB=6mn E=06-21 19:36:44 (38h22) >>> 12 SoS q1735 [01:14]
lobbesbot: A#230 O=6mn HB=6mn E=06-21 19:37:08 (38h22) >>> 12 SoB q1735 [01:14]
lobbesbot: A#235 O=565k HB=No bids E=06-21 05:43:41 (24h29) >>> 135 CFT q1724 [01:14]
lobbesbot: A#238 O=9mn HB=No bids E=06-23 02:20:58 (69h6) >>> 222 CS q20364 [01:14]
lobbesbot: A#236 O=20mn HB=20mn E=06-22 06:03:55 (48h49) >>> 1 WOS q4209571 [01:14]
lobbesbot: A#231 O=76mn HB=No bids E=06-20 21:42:46 (16h28) >>> 19998 IO bp q70 [01:14]
lobbesbot: A#233 O=111.5mn HB=No bids E=06-21 21:48:17 (40h33) >>> 100k PPB bp q25 [01:14]
lobbesbot: A#234 O=4mn HB=4mn E=06-20 21:57:31 (16h43) >>> 24k Slag bp q25 [01:14]
lobbesbot: --- end of auction list, 285.2mn total bids --- [01:14]
hanbot: http://logs.minigame.biz/2018-06-18.log.html#t20:44:21 << am sated for the time being [03:05]
lobbesbot: Logged on 2018-06-18 20:44:21: <diana_coman> well, 1 data point,dunno; hanbot do you want more grimy toolkits at same markup as ^ btw? [03:05]
lobbesbot: A#237 O=32.2mn HB=32.2mn E=06-21 19:19:29 (36h5) >>> 500k F q61 [03:14]
lobbesbot: A#226 O=205mn HB=205mn E=06-22 23:38:45 (64h24) >>> 745 WOA q903 [03:14]
lobbesbot: A#227 O=6mn HB=6mn E=06-21 19:36:44 (36h22) >>> 12 SoL q1735 [03:14]
lobbesbot: A#228 O=6mn HB=6mn E=06-21 19:36:44 (36h22) >>> 12 SoM q1735 [03:14]
lobbesbot: A#229 O=6mn HB=6mn E=06-21 19:36:44 (36h22) >>> 12 SoS q1735 [03:14]
lobbesbot: A#230 O=6mn HB=6mn E=06-21 19:37:08 (36h22) >>> 12 SoB q1735 [03:14]
lobbesbot: A#235 O=565k HB=No bids E=06-21 05:43:41 (22h29) >>> 135 CFT q1724 [03:14]
lobbesbot: A#238 O=9mn HB=No bids E=06-23 02:20:58 (67h6) >>> 222 CS q20364 [03:14]
lobbesbot: A#236 O=20mn HB=20mn E=06-22 06:03:55 (46h49) >>> 1 WOS q4209571 [03:14]
lobbesbot: A#231 O=76mn HB=No bids E=06-20 21:42:46 (14h28) >>> 19998 IO bp q70 [03:14]
lobbesbot: A#233 O=111.5mn HB=No bids E=06-21 21:48:17 (38h33) >>> 100k PPB bp q25 [03:14]
lobbesbot: A#234 O=4mn HB=4mn E=06-20 21:57:31 (14h43) >>> 24k Slag bp q25 [03:14]
lobbesbot: --- end of auction list, 285.2mn total bids --- [03:14]
diana_coman: !Qbid 238 9mn [07:29]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 238: 222 CS q20364 Heard: 9mn from diana_coman Ending: 2018-06-23 02:20:58 UTC (62 hours 51 mins) [07:29]
lobbesbot: A#237 O=32.2mn HB=32.2mn E=06-21 19:19:29 (31h5) >>> 500k F q61 [08:14]
lobbesbot: A#226 O=205mn HB=205mn E=06-22 23:38:45 (59h24) >>> 745 WOA q903 [08:14]
lobbesbot: A#227 O=6mn HB=6mn E=06-21 19:36:44 (31h22) >>> 12 SoL q1735 [08:14]
lobbesbot: A#228 O=6mn HB=6mn E=06-21 19:36:44 (31h22) >>> 12 SoM q1735 [08:14]
lobbesbot: A#229 O=6mn HB=6mn E=06-21 19:36:44 (31h22) >>> 12 SoS q1735 [08:14]
lobbesbot: A#230 O=6mn HB=6mn E=06-21 19:37:08 (31h22) >>> 12 SoB q1735 [08:14]
lobbesbot: A#235 O=565k HB=No bids E=06-21 05:43:41 (17h29) >>> 135 CFT q1724 [08:14]
lobbesbot: A#238 O=9mn HB=9mn E=06-23 02:20:58 (62h6) >>> 222 CS q20364 [08:14]
lobbesbot: A#236 O=20mn HB=20mn E=06-22 06:03:55 (41h49) >>> 1 WOS q4209571 [08:14]
lobbesbot: A#231 O=76mn HB=No bids E=06-20 21:42:46 (9h28) >>> 19998 IO bp q70 [08:14]
lobbesbot: A#233 O=111.5mn HB=No bids E=06-21 21:48:17 (33h33) >>> 100k PPB bp q25 [08:14]
lobbesbot: A#234 O=4mn HB=4mn E=06-20 21:57:31 (9h43) >>> 24k Slag bp q25 [08:14]
lobbesbot: --- end of auction list, 294.2mn total bids --- [08:14]
mircea_popescu: Mocky aite well, done crafting lol. time to try mining [16:43]
Mocky: inb4 "totally broke" [17:14]
lobbesbot: A#237 O=32.2mn HB=32.2mn E=06-21 19:19:29 (22h5) >>> 500k F q61 [17:14]
lobbesbot: A#226 O=205mn HB=205mn E=06-22 23:38:45 (50h24) >>> 745 WOA q903 [17:14]
lobbesbot: A#227 O=6mn HB=6mn E=06-21 19:36:44 (22h22) >>> 12 SoL q1735 [17:14]
lobbesbot: A#228 O=6mn HB=6mn E=06-21 19:36:44 (22h22) >>> 12 SoM q1735 [17:14]
lobbesbot: A#229 O=6mn HB=6mn E=06-21 19:36:44 (22h22) >>> 12 SoS q1735 [17:14]
lobbesbot: A#230 O=6mn HB=6mn E=06-21 19:37:08 (22h22) >>> 12 SoB q1735 [17:14]
lobbesbot: A#235 O=565k HB=No bids E=06-21 05:43:41 (8h29) >>> 135 CFT q1724 [17:14]
lobbesbot: A#238 O=9mn HB=9mn E=06-23 02:20:58 (53h6) >>> 222 CS q20364 [17:14]
lobbesbot: A#236 O=20mn HB=20mn E=06-22 06:03:55 (32h49) >>> 1 WOS q4209571 [17:14]
lobbesbot: A#231 O=76mn HB=No bids E=06-20 21:42:46 (0h28) >>> 19998 IO bp q70 [17:14]
lobbesbot: A#233 O=111.5mn HB=No bids E=06-21 21:48:17 (24h33) >>> 100k PPB bp q25 [17:14]
lobbesbot: A#234 O=4mn HB=4mn E=06-20 21:57:31 (0h43) >>> 24k Slag bp q25 [17:14]
lobbesbot: --- end of auction list, 294.2mn total bids --- [17:14]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 231 has ENDED: No Sale. Attn: diana_coman [17:43]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 234 has ENDED: 24k Slag bp q25 SOLD to mircea_popescu for 4mn coppers. Attn: diana_coman [17:58]
mircea_popescu: lol [18:01]
mircea_popescu: Mocky failed to put leather in table, died overweight. [18:07]
mircea_popescu: 1st try. [18:07]
mircea_popescu: failed to put flotsam in table, died overweight. [18:08]
mircea_popescu: aaand again. [18:09]
mircea_popescu: Mocky you were right, totally broken! [18:09]
Mocky: damn [18:10]
mircea_popescu: you didn't have this problem ? [18:11]
Mocky: and it shows build 25? [18:11]
Mocky: no, i mined for 8 hours yesterday with breaks to train and unload [18:12]
mircea_popescu: it does. [18:12]
Mocky: i had occasional 'container is too far away' [18:12]
mircea_popescu: well... anything i can do here ? [18:13]
Mocky: did it transfer anything to the table and missed some, or did you only get the one stack in inv? [18:13]
lobbesbot: A#237 O=32.2mn HB=32.2mn E=06-21 19:19:29 (21h5) >>> 500k F q61 [18:14]
lobbesbot: A#226 O=205mn HB=205mn E=06-22 23:38:45 (49h24) >>> 745 WOA q903 [18:14]
lobbesbot: A#227 O=6mn HB=6mn E=06-21 19:36:44 (21h22) >>> 12 SoL q1735 [18:14]
lobbesbot: A#228 O=6mn HB=6mn E=06-21 19:36:44 (21h22) >>> 12 SoM q1735 [18:14]
lobbesbot: A#229 O=6mn HB=6mn E=06-21 19:36:44 (21h22) >>> 12 SoS q1735 [18:14]
lobbesbot: A#230 O=6mn HB=6mn E=06-21 19:37:08 (21h22) >>> 12 SoB q1735 [18:14]
lobbesbot: A#235 O=565k HB=No bids E=06-21 05:43:41 (7h29) >>> 135 CFT q1724 [18:14]
lobbesbot: A#238 O=9mn HB=9mn E=06-23 02:20:58 (52h6) >>> 222 CS q20364 [18:14]
lobbesbot: A#236 O=20mn HB=20mn E=06-22 06:03:55 (31h49) >>> 1 WOS q4209571 [18:14]
lobbesbot: A#233 O=111.5mn HB=No bids E=06-21 21:48:17 (23h33) >>> 100k PPB bp q25 [18:14]
lobbesbot: --- end of auction list, 290.2mn total bids --- [18:14]
mircea_popescu: transfers nothing to the table. [18:14]
mircea_popescu: there's a white comment, "transfer so and so slot 0" [18:14]
mircea_popescu: after storing output [18:15]
mircea_popescu: but it dun actually move it [18:15]
Mocky: did you get a message in the chat window like, too far away, or can't move to that? [18:16]
mircea_popescu: oh, and the bug where if it explores and it's too far away from the table it gets stuck is still here. [18:17]
mircea_popescu: Mocky NOW it managed to put it in. the difference is this time i started with table in inv rather than on ground. [18:18]
Mocky: oh, it has to be in inv, yeah [18:19]
mircea_popescu: maybe this was intended functioning, dunno [18:19]
mircea_popescu: yep, now it's working. [18:19]
Mocky: good deal [18:20]
mircea_popescu: oook. cool. so must start with table in inv. [18:20]
Mocky: yes [18:21]
Mocky: i have a feature where it will look around for a table you're guarding to use, but it's not done yet [18:22]
mircea_popescu: ok so a key drop failed , though i expect it did mine that claim [18:22]
mircea_popescu: and it got caught by the "same place twice in a row" thing [18:22]
Mocky: did it move back into the same place, or didn't move at all? [18:23]
mircea_popescu: and now there's a ghost table, curious how it handles that on the retrurn [18:23]
mircea_popescu: Mocky i dunno tbh. [18:23]
mircea_popescu: Mocky now it;'s trying to use lbn to build a small ?! [18:24]
mircea_popescu: ok it got totally fucked. it put in 21 lbn while had small f enuim in hjead, then started going and would have fallen off cliff. [18:24]
mircea_popescu: and somehow my 13k stack of lbn ended up put in table. i suspect there was some leakage here. [18:25]
mircea_popescu: anyway, hads to kill it 13 explores in. [18:25]
Mocky: i ran into that last issue yesterday, with putting all the lbn into the table [18:26]
Mocky: missreading the recipe i have not seen [18:26]
mircea_popescu: Mocky now it tried to put cft in tinyclaim. [18:26]
mircea_popescu: and i ended up with the cft stack put in table. [18:26]
Mocky: omg, this is a mess [18:27]
mircea_popescu: so the run record so far is 13-1- [18:28]
mircea_popescu: now it did a small correctly. maybe some delay with an uninited datastruct makes it think the recipe is the previous recipe ? [18:29]
Mocky: i need to put in more checking and error handling [18:29]
mircea_popescu: aaand there it is, my run is hard ended at try 2. [18:29]
mircea_popescu: this is because, as every single stick gives me diff qual items, i end up with a full table in no more than 16 sticks. [18:30]
mircea_popescu: i got 4 wpl stacks, 6 f stacks etc [18:30]
mircea_popescu: the wpl is like 34 32 28 etc. [18:30]
Mocky: are some of the stacks small, out of curiosity? [18:30]
mircea_popescu: basically, for hiogher level mining this is not workable w/o mixer. [18:30]
Mocky: right [18:30]
mircea_popescu: Mocky does it output its botspew to a file ? so i don't have to type ? [18:31]
Mocky: not yet but I can see that's needed [18:31]
mircea_popescu: right. [18:31]
mircea_popescu: also, if it could have support for multiple tables... [18:31]
mircea_popescu: anyway wpl stacks are 12 15 16 32, it hit 4 claims it made 4 stacks [18:31]
mircea_popescu: same with flotsam -- 6 claims, 6 stacks. [18:32]
Mocky: multiple tables would be interesting [18:32]
mircea_popescu: i got a boulder thing, where it's 113 and 112 from same claim, but that's it. [18:32]
mircea_popescu: Mocky anyway, a productive attempt i'd say, even if mockybot not yet ready for industrial deployment. [18:36]
mircea_popescu: basically you got it to where it exposes a hard edge of reality, the stacking quals problem. [18:37]
Mocky: true [18:37]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i ended up with q 840 boulders and some q 600 F too [18:37]
mircea_popescu: Mocky they only way out i see is for it to stack tiny claims together and small claims together. [18:38]
Mocky: would you prefer that to specifying ranges? [18:39]
mircea_popescu: nope. [18:39]
mircea_popescu: multiple tables are also good, because you end up with at most 2 stacks per rangepoint (if you do the towers of hanoi lossless mixing), and as the case is here, i could end up with 4 stacks each of b, f, wpl, pss, rr that's 5 items ie 20 stacks. [18:40]
mircea_popescu: one table has 16 [18:40]
Mocky: ok, in this example, what does 33 signify? http://logs.minigame.biz/2018-06-10.log.html#t18:56:37 [18:45]
lobbesbot: Logged on 2018-06-10 18:56:37: <mircea_popescu> so if i set it to say 33, the bot will mix q 665 with 663 but not with 667 [18:45]
mircea_popescu: Mocky divisors [18:55]
mircea_popescu: the example is no good, let's restate. [18:55]
mircea_popescu: so if i set it to say 33, the bot will mix q 6665 with 6663 but not with 6667 [because 6665 mod 33 = 6664 mod 33 ; whereas != 6667 mod 33] [18:56]
mircea_popescu: does that make sense ? [18:57]
Mocky: no. none of those work out to being equal [18:59]
Mocky: oh, not mod but div [19:00]
mircea_popescu: right-o [19:01]
Mocky: integer div. ok i see it [19:01]
mircea_popescu: so if i set it to say 33, the bot will mix q 6665 with 6663 but not with 6667 [because 6665 div 33 = 22 = 6664 div 33 ; whereas != 6667 mod 33 (which is 23) ] [19:01]
Mocky: right [19:01]
mircea_popescu: so basically, i set the size of imaginary quality tranches, and the bot mixes within but not without tranches. [19:01]
Mocky: yup, subject to odd / even & quantity matching [19:02]
mircea_popescu: right. [19:02]
Mocky: makes sense to me now [19:03]
mircea_popescu: so over an infinite number of assays i'd end up with a bunch of q6649 and q6650 items and so on [19:03]
mircea_popescu: 6616/6617 ; 6649/6650 ; 6682/6683 and so following [19:03]
mircea_popescu: alright. it's very elaborate tbh, but it has the merit that i can't imagine what more one could want. [19:04]
Mocky: on a different note, my bot got stuck yesterday after 8 hours urgently walking toward a ghost table. i don't know for how long or even which one, there were three ghosts in close proximity. i coudln't pick it up. i stopped the bot and i couldn't pick any of them up either. relogging let me pick it up, but that pissed me off. [19:08]
Mocky: today i wrote a bot command to nuke all the objects in a parameterized radius [19:08]
Mocky: somewhat of an over reaction, but it was satisfying, lol [19:09]
Mocky: i'm working my way toward a solution that is effective without being overkill [19:09]
lobbesbot: A#237 O=32.2mn HB=32.2mn E=06-21 19:19:29 (20h5) >>> 500k F q61 [19:14]
lobbesbot: A#226 O=205mn HB=205mn E=06-22 23:38:45 (48h24) >>> 745 WOA q903 [19:14]
lobbesbot: A#227 O=6mn HB=6mn E=06-21 19:36:44 (20h22) >>> 12 SoL q1735 [19:14]
lobbesbot: A#228 O=6mn HB=6mn E=06-21 19:36:44 (20h22) >>> 12 SoM q1735 [19:14]
lobbesbot: A#229 O=6mn HB=6mn E=06-21 19:36:44 (20h22) >>> 12 SoS q1735 [19:14]
lobbesbot: A#230 O=6mn HB=6mn E=06-21 19:37:08 (20h22) >>> 12 SoB q1735 [19:14]
lobbesbot: A#235 O=565k HB=No bids E=06-21 05:43:41 (6h29) >>> 135 CFT q1724 [19:14]
lobbesbot: A#238 O=9mn HB=9mn E=06-23 02:20:58 (51h6) >>> 222 CS q20364 [19:14]
lobbesbot: A#236 O=20mn HB=20mn E=06-22 06:03:55 (30h49) >>> 1 WOS q4209571 [19:14]
lobbesbot: A#233 O=111.5mn HB=No bids E=06-21 21:48:17 (22h33) >>> 100k PPB bp q25 [19:14]
lobbesbot: --- end of auction list, 290.2mn total bids --- [19:14]

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