| diana_coman: | http://logs.minigame.biz/2018-05-30.log.html#t23:35:17 <- hm, I have some but no real idea how to price it (it's q 2250 ftr) | [08:42] |
| lobbesbot: | Logged on 2018-05-30 23:35:17: <mircea_popescu> incidentally, anyone got high q tpt ? | [08:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, i'm out of tpt for making cs. | [08:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | also pss. | [08:43] |
| diana_coman: | myeah, that's pretty much what I used it for as well: cs and pocc | [08:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | a right, pocc. no real use for pocc atm here though. | [08:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | yo mocky! | [08:46] |
| lobbesbot: | A#171 O=1mn HB=1.8375mn E=06-04 22:23:00 (57h12) >>> 12 SoL q1735 | [09:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#172 O=1mn HB=1.8375mn E=06-04 22:23:04 (57h12) >>> 12 SoM q1735 | [09:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#173 O=1mn HB=1.8375mn E=06-04 22:23:07 (57h12) >>> 12 SoS q1735 | [09:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#174 O=14mn HB=14mn E=06-07 00:18:54 (107h8) >>> 8 CS q 883337 | [09:10] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 19.5125mn total bids --- | [09:10] |
| diana_coman: | !Qcalc 1100*3577 | [09:15] |
| lobbesbot: | diana_coman: 3934700 | [09:15] |
| diana_coman: | !QAuction 8mn 48 1100 TPT q2250 | [09:16] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 175 STARTED by diana_coman: 1100 TPT q2250 Opening: 8mn coppers Ending: 2018-06-04 13:16:29 UTC (48 hours) | [09:16] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, ^ | [09:16] |
| diana_coman: | supposedly we shall see what market thinks huge q tpt is worth | [09:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | !Qcalc 159 * 22.5 | [09:17] |
| lobbesbot: | mircea_popescu: 3577.5 | [09:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | !Qbid 175 10mn | [09:17] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 175: 1100 TPT q2250 Heard: 10mn from mircea_popescu Ending: 2018-06-04 13:16:29 UTC (47 hours 58 mins) | [09:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | pss too ? | [09:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | ~lots~ | [09:17] |
| diana_coman: | it's usually either or; i.e. either lots OR high q, lol | [09:18] |
| diana_coman: | let me see | [09:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [09:18] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, what is minimum q you'd consider "high" ? | [09:19] |
| diana_coman: | because this tension there is inescapable | [09:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | i dunno, 1k ? 500 in a pinch ? | [09:19] |
| diana_coman: | i.e. I can always mix with lower q to get "lots" but obv, that brings q down | [09:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | nah don't do that. | [09:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | sell by batches from top q down i say. | [09:20] |
| diana_coman: | logically speaking top q should fetch more but it's totally unclear how to calculate exactly | [09:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | right. | [09:20] |
| diana_coman: | at the bottom I have > 150k pss q10; onth at the top it takes ages to put together a few thousands | [09:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | also, what should i make ? more cs is not currently possible ; but working on it. more what, tools ? basics ? imps ? | [09:22] |
| diana_coman: | dunno really; it turns out anyway that your cs are best used as crafting inputs so not really most interesting for me | [09:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman, the problem is, if i use low q i seem to only get numina ; and i don't want to burn cs bps to get nosehairs | [09:23] |
| diana_coman: | are tools any different anyway? | [09:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | i dunno, you're the miner. | [09:23] |
| diana_coman: | well yes, but think of it: I sell huge q harvestables that are a pain to get and then for this priviledge I pay through the nose for tools? | [09:23] |
| diana_coman: | what sense does that make for me | [09:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm. | [09:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | how do you propose to go about it ? | [09:24] |
| diana_coman: | basically it's fine for me to sell what harvestables I can sell, but prolly I'm not going to buy tools resulted from that because it's not sustainable as such; so tools will prolly be made through intermediate crafter using foxy's top bundles or similar | [09:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | my problem atm is that i got 0 basic tool bps left. i expect i can make more, but i wanna try some clicks with a noob. where is mocky! | [09:25] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron seems to have a use for high q cs as crafting input so prolly he's the buyer there on that chain | [09:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman, the thing is, crafting changed a lot. i've been doing all sorts of test clicks, but get an idea : out of ~2k srs clicks, ie eating 2k bps, i made ~300 srs! like 0.15 per, as opposed to you know, 7-8x as i used to. | [09:27] |
| diana_coman: | certainly, but what q srs? | [09:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | fortunately i have humongous stores of bps from before, srs in particular, but ... | [09:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman, 263-265 | [09:27] |
| diana_coman: | ugh, that's tiny q; did you use q1 inputs or what? | [09:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | we'll leave aside the literal 100s of k's of basics involved. | [09:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | no, q 1-200 inputs too. and max load on bp. | [09:28] |
| diana_coman: | and bp q ? | [09:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman, 120 | [09:28] |
| diana_coman: | well, max load on bp came seriously down for foxy | [09:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | me too. | [09:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | 13-16 sr it says. | [09:28] |
| diana_coman: | so there is that for one thing; but leaving that aside, my conclusion so far (see previous experiments in here with dg and so on) is that literally, lower value stuff are best made by low/middle crafters preferably with bundles loaded by top crafter | [09:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | and this includes a pop ; without that, i'd have made like 60 not 300. ie, 0.03 per! | [09:29] |
| diana_coman: | the pops are iffy as I'm still not sure how come each time I popped on lapidary it was ONLY numina | [09:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman, yeah, i mean... i don't know what anyone else can make q 800k+ cs. but i made 8 in 30 clicks! | [09:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | before, 30 clicks was you know, AT LEAST 150 cs. | [09:30] |
| diana_coman: | so there you have EXACTLY the thing I was saying earlier re pss | [09:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | of course, amusingly, it'd have been 3mn not 7 mn bv. so in some sense maybe it actually improved ? | [09:31] |
| diana_coman: | you want pss q 1000 minimum; foxy can make that, sure; but like 3 per cs click | [09:31] |
| diana_coman: | and 1 cs click takes 1 hour | [09:31] |
| diana_coman: | so... | [09:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah, no, the mining delay's also going away. | [09:31] |
| diana_coman: | yay! | [09:31] |
| diana_coman: | so we'll see then I guess | [09:31] |
| diana_coman: | i.e. we will see what we run out of first :P | [09:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah. it's sad, in a sense, it was introduced at a time back in 2015 when npcs to help you and building industry seemed around the corner. then... | [09:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, things happened, and here we are. | [09:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | !Qcalc 262 * 3 * 10 | [09:33] |
| lobbesbot: | mircea_popescu: 7860 | [09:33] |
| diana_coman: | talking of crafting low/middle value stuff: noob (total noob, 0 skill) makes 70 ltf per click out of foxy's bundle + numina including sentiments | [09:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | ahahaha what! | [09:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | holy hell | [09:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | what q tho ? | [09:34] |
| diana_coman: | q 11, sure; but it's not like you can't mix a ton of them up with a FEW high q to get some middle q if that's what you are after | [09:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | interesting. | [09:34] |
| diana_coman: | and bp is q106 ftr | [09:34] |
| diana_coman: | not huge stuff | [09:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | i made some, but q 600 | [09:35] |
| diana_coman: | but honestly, this is totally like what I know from mining | [09:35] |
| diana_coman: | so if anything, crafting just got waaay more similar to mining than it ever was | [09:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | i wonder what i should do. | [09:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | i mean, i can't make more cs ; finishing this srs run mostly for the data. then what ? | [09:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | i suppose what i'll do is burn all my slag / io / shaped slags bps. | [09:37] |
| diana_coman: | I honestly have no idea re "what is needed" ; it seems there is some lull | [09:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, so what price would you buy tools ? or what, cft ? | [09:38] |
| diana_coman: | what, did spirover run out of cft?? | [09:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | hmm, i suppose... if i could sell cft cheaper than electron that'd sell well would it ? | [09:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | no way ?! | [09:38] |
| diana_coman: | if it's similar q | [09:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | what q did he have, 100 ? | [09:38] |
| diana_coman: | yes | [09:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | and is he actually out ?! | [09:38] |
| diana_coman: | no, I thought you said he was out if you were planning to sell cft | [09:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | can you go check lol | [09:39] |
| diana_coman: | lol, ok | [09:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | but wait wait WAAAIT! | [09:39] |
| diana_coman: | hm? | [09:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | so from what you're saying... if i make cft of huge quality, | [09:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | there may be a market for me here, even for more \% than electron ? | [09:40] |
| diana_coman: | yes, certainly | [09:40] |
| diana_coman: | huge q cft is actually NEEDED for high value harvestables | [09:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | well then! question answered. | [09:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | once im done with this srs pile, i'm going to burn a ton of grass make cft, we see wtf happens. | [09:40] |
| diana_coman: | because otherwise NO WAY to get really high q GRC or whateves | [09:40] |
| diana_coman: | i.e. high q grass is one thing; high q GRC is another matter not only because harder to get claim | [09:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman, you know i was looking, i actually need grc for something | [09:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | i forgot what, but was about to ask. | [09:41] |
| diana_coman: | ahaha | [09:41] |
| diana_coman: | happy to report that spirover still has (he says) > 80mn cft | [09:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah cool. | [09:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | ty | [09:42] |
| diana_coman: | relatively low stocks of grc altogether; a few hundreds low q; a couple huge q | [09:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | btw, you got eps ? | [09:45] |
| diana_coman: | funny how everyone uses same; bod and the like, eh | [09:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | :p | [09:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | you know i made a q 100k bod ? | [09:46] |
| diana_coman: | q100k? o.O | [09:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | mmm, no sorry, storage value. qabv | [09:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | well now i'm confused. wtf. will look once this run is done. | [09:47] |
| diana_coman: | ah, ah; I seem to have some at ~700k qabv but I think they are from the floating stuff | [09:47] |
| diana_coman: | next it'll be wm and sm and so on, lel | [09:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | possibly. | [09:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, ima try maybe a dt click too, see what happens. | [09:48] |
| diana_coman: | with resources esp high q I would wait until the delay goes away because then I'll be able hopefully to have some better idea what is what | [09:49] |
| diana_coman: | kind of difficult to say now because if I price them based on past experience they'll end up VERY expensive because 1 hour per cs click and so on | [09:49] |
| diana_coman: | but at any rate: I'll buy high q cft, yes | [09:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, my plan here is to put some cft on market ~tomorrow. | [09:51] |
| diana_coman: | eps stocks are better, mainly because eps is what foxy gets when she does NOT get the grc she is after, lol | [09:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | it's iffy because if bot doesn't block, i make 500 clicks / hour or so, so in a day potentially LOTS of cft ; but if it blocks and i'm not there... | [09:51] |
| diana_coman: | thinking of it: no mining delay means I'll prolly need bot to make the fucking ord bundles already | [09:51] |
| diana_coman: | and it doesn't and they are a huge pain | [09:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | why not use bouight ?! | [09:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | i got a shitton. i'd fucking use. | [09:52] |
| diana_coman: | I ...used them; those that are most needed are gone; and ftr q250 is low q for fox on ord of non-basics | [09:52] |
| diana_coman: | i.e. she gets a ton of shitty stuff as a result | [09:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | you mean 2500 ? | [09:53] |
| diana_coman: | the new 2500 too, yes | [09:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm. | [09:53] |
| diana_coman: | slightly better, obv | [09:53] |
| diana_coman: | but not great | [09:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | so then wait, there's a ~huge~ market for high q stuff for your bundles ? | [09:54] |
| diana_coman: | *potentially* | [09:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | interdasting. | [09:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | foreshadow, what'd you need ? | [09:54] |
| diana_coman: | it's mainly shaped slag and io that goes in as craftables | [09:54] |
| diana_coman: | trouble is that foreshadowing here without any idea as to what harvestables people actually want and what they are willing to pay for it is a bit funny | [09:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | myeah. | [09:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, i was gonna make a piule of sslag anyways. so... | [09:55] |
| diana_coman: | ah, and there is of course the sad fact that more mining will logically result here and there in some remarks for which one can't make a bundle and so on | [09:56] |
| diana_coman: | not to even mention anything higher than remark | [09:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | i got some ... | [10:02] |
| diana_coman: | yes, but we can't make more; I have some too for however long they will last at any rate | [10:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | myeah | [10:04] |
| lobbesbot: | A#171 O=1mn HB=1.8375mn E=06-04 22:23:00 (56h12) >>> 12 SoL q1735 | [10:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#172 O=1mn HB=1.8375mn E=06-04 22:23:04 (56h12) >>> 12 SoM q1735 | [10:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#173 O=1mn HB=1.8375mn E=06-04 22:23:07 (56h12) >>> 12 SoS q1735 | [10:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#174 O=14mn HB=14mn E=06-07 00:18:54 (106h8) >>> 8 CS q 883337 | [10:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#175 O=8mn HB=10mn E=06-04 13:16:29 (47h5) >>> 1100 TPT q2250 | [10:10] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 29.5125mn total bids --- | [10:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman, wait, why can't we make more ?! | [10:15] |
| diana_coman: | no double distillates | [10:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | i sold grenadine some way back when neh | [10:15] |
| diana_coman: | well, what does that do really; there aren't any on the market, nor have there been any and moreover it's not even clear she won't run out of *those* | [10:16] |
| diana_coman: | in other words: I don't see this as solved | [10:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh this is all starting to come back to me. what i must do is make a shitton of dust to make mites to make some heavy duty clicks on the middle bouq cons. | [10:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | god i like talking. i started an hour ago with nary a clue what to do and now i have a list longer than my arm. | [10:17] |
| diana_coman: | now I know why I'm not that fond of talking: I ~never find myself without stuff to do | [10:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | im guessing i'll be selling some lbn. | [10:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | !QAuction 33mn 120 19815 LBN q15168 | [10:31] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 176 STARTED by mircea_popescu: 19815 LBN q15168 Opening: 33mn coppers Ending: 2018-06-07 14:31:24 UTC (120 hours) | [10:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | !QAuction 22mn 100 66529 LBN q2972 | [10:39] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 177 STARTED by mircea_popescu: 66529 LBN q2972 Opening: 22mn coppers Ending: 2018-06-06 18:39:39 UTC (100 hours) | [10:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | both at bv. | [10:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman hanbot danielpbarron ^ prolly of interest i'm guessing. | [10:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman, it was a q 3800 bod i made, 1.1mn bv or so. | [10:40] |
| diana_coman: | not bad | [10:41] |
| diana_coman: | with lbn I'm in 2 minds; I could never really make it pay off, even when using the huge (1mn or what was it ) q ones | [10:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, i gotta have a price for it, so i'm guessing we find out what the market says. | [10:42] |
| diana_coman: | hey, I'm not saying it's not worth it or not useful; others might make better use of it than foxy & co. atm, that's all | [10:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | you have any idea what pss you get bh with say 2k lbn ? | [10:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | seems an important standard imo | [10:44] |
| diana_coman: | who exactly "gets"? | [10:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | foxy | [10:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | isn't she top dog in mining ? | [10:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | or not anymore ? | [10:45] |
| diana_coman: | yes, but that apparently means she gets jack shit usually if bh | [10:45] |
| diana_coman: | i.e. no claim | [10:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | no tiny ? | [10:45] |
| diana_coman: | nope | [10:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah but i mean if you leave it overnight ? nothing ? | [10:45] |
| diana_coman: | well, she does get 1 eventually, sure | [10:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm. and with basic pickaxe or w/e ? | [10:45] |
| diana_coman: | yes, but it's a waste really | [10:45] |
| diana_coman: | she misses even with basic tools although not *that* much, true | [10:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | well i dunno. but i suspect because of how crafting works the ~1-2k lbn will be a standard byproduct of industrial process. and consequently, important to know what good miner gets for it. | [10:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | in q terms | [10:46] |
| diana_coman: | good miner won't use 1 lbn anyway; thing is each and every time I tried tinies with fox she would get a. lousy quality anyway (<50) and b. something like 20\% out; and lbn was at a premium waaay higher than cft so it made absolutely 0 sense to do it | [10:48] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, do you actually have any direct use for dusts or should I make all of them into mites anyway? | [10:56] |
| diana_coman: | I guess dusts go into lvl 1 bouq cons, don't they | [10:56] |
| lobbesbot: | A#171 O=1mn HB=1.8375mn E=06-04 22:23:00 (55h12) >>> 12 SoL q1735 | [11:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#172 O=1mn HB=1.8375mn E=06-04 22:23:04 (55h12) >>> 12 SoM q1735 | [11:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#173 O=1mn HB=1.8375mn E=06-04 22:23:07 (55h12) >>> 12 SoS q1735 | [11:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#174 O=14mn HB=14mn E=06-07 00:18:54 (105h8) >>> 8 CS q 883337 | [11:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#175 O=8mn HB=10mn E=06-04 13:16:29 (46h5) >>> 1100 TPT q2250 | [11:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#177 O=22mn HB=No bids E=06-06 18:39:39 (99h29) >>> 66529 LBN q2972 | [11:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#176 O=33mn HB=No bids E=06-07 14:31:24 (119h20) >>> 19815 LBN q15168 | [11:10] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 29.5125mn total bids --- | [11:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman, yup, for cons. | [13:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | and for now, lbn is at 100\% premium apparently. | [13:44] |
| lobbesbot: | A#171 O=1mn HB=1.8375mn E=06-04 22:23:00 (52h12) >>> 12 SoL q1735 | [14:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#172 O=1mn HB=1.8375mn E=06-04 22:23:04 (52h12) >>> 12 SoM q1735 | [14:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#173 O=1mn HB=1.8375mn E=06-04 22:23:07 (52h12) >>> 12 SoS q1735 | [14:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#174 O=14mn HB=14mn E=06-07 00:18:54 (102h8) >>> 8 CS q 883337 | [14:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#175 O=8mn HB=10mn E=06-04 13:16:29 (43h5) >>> 1100 TPT q2250 | [14:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#177 O=22mn HB=No bids E=06-06 18:39:39 (96h28) >>> 66529 LBN q2972 | [14:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#176 O=33mn HB=No bids E=06-07 14:31:24 (116h20) >>> 19815 LBN q15168 | [14:10] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 29.5125mn total bids --- | [14:10] |
| danielpbarron: | !QBid 176 33m | [14:34] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 176: 19815 LBN q15168 Heard: 33mn from danielpbarron Ending: 2018-06-07 14:31:24 UTC (115 hours 56 mins) | [14:34] |
| diana_coman: | !Qbid 177 22m | [14:51] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 177: 66529 LBN q2972 Heard: 22mn from diana_coman Ending: 2018-06-06 18:39:39 UTC (95 hours 48 mins) | [14:51] |
| diana_coman: | !Qbid 176 40m | [14:53] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 176: 19815 LBN q15168 Heard: 40mn from diana_coman overbidding danielpbarron Ending: 2018-06-07 14:31:24 UTC (115 hours 37 mins) | [14:53] |
| lobbesbot: | A#171 O=1mn HB=1.8375mn E=06-04 22:23:00 (51h12) >>> 12 SoL q1735 | [15:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#172 O=1mn HB=1.8375mn E=06-04 22:23:04 (51h12) >>> 12 SoM q1735 | [15:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#173 O=1mn HB=1.8375mn E=06-04 22:23:07 (51h12) >>> 12 SoS q1735 | [15:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#174 O=14mn HB=14mn E=06-07 00:18:54 (101h8) >>> 8 CS q 883337 | [15:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#175 O=8mn HB=10mn E=06-04 13:16:29 (42h5) >>> 1100 TPT q2250 | [15:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#177 O=22mn HB=22mn E=06-06 18:39:39 (95h28) >>> 66529 LBN q2972 | [15:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#176 O=33mn HB=40mn E=06-07 14:31:24 (115h20) >>> 19815 LBN q15168 | [15:10] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 91.5125mn total bids --- | [15:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman, turns out i need grc for DT! | [15:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | did you have some after all ? | [15:56] |
| diana_coman: | only relatively low q | [16:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | i'll take. i got gs and ss high q, gonna try for some books. | [16:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | see wtf happens. | [16:04] |
| diana_coman: | k, let me check; hm, when my client stops crashing | [16:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | thanks lucky stars he made silk back when his bps made 5 per not .2 per hallelujah | [16:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#171 O=1mn HB=1.8375mn E=06-04 22:23:00 (50h12) >>> 12 SoL q1735 | [16:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#172 O=1mn HB=1.8375mn E=06-04 22:23:04 (50h12) >>> 12 SoM q1735 | [16:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#173 O=1mn HB=1.8375mn E=06-04 22:23:07 (50h12) >>> 12 SoS q1735 | [16:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#174 O=14mn HB=14mn E=06-07 00:18:54 (100h8) >>> 8 CS q 883337 | [16:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#175 O=8mn HB=10mn E=06-04 13:16:29 (41h5) >>> 1100 TPT q2250 | [16:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#177 O=22mn HB=22mn E=06-06 18:39:39 (94h28) >>> 66529 LBN q2972 | [16:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#176 O=33mn HB=40mn E=06-07 14:31:24 (114h20) >>> 19815 LBN q15168 | [16:10] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 91.5125mn total bids --- | [16:10] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, if I put them all together there'd be 880 ~ 17q | [16:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | no but imo best to do it by q batches. | [16:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | what you got over q 100 say ? | [16:14] |
| diana_coman: | I doubt it's worth it and literally: how many do you use per click anyway? | [16:15] |
| diana_coman: | or what, you want each click with different bundle? what does that even do? | [16:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | i don't care about diff bundles, i click them by hand anyway | [16:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | and i use 4 per click | [16:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | loadouts went way down | [16:16] |
| diana_coman: | foxy's went down surprisingly in sync really (at least on mining where I had all the data easily at hand so I saw it immediately) | [16:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman, btw, sell me some grass ? | [16:19] |
| diana_coman: | strictly > 100 there's about 29 grc and it's anyway < 130; but for one thing I don't know what's special about 100 (or any other point chosen as cut off for "high q" or whatever) and for the other what's the point of the 1q then? are you putting anywhere everything low q or what? I don't see it | [16:20] |
| diana_coman: | once mining is fast and I can get loads of whatever q, sure | [16:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | i'd take that 29 tbh | [16:20] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, I know | [16:20] |
| diana_coman: | and then the rest what | [16:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | i dunno. | [16:20] |
| diana_coman: | question is: will you take them at 400\%? | [16:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | how much does it come to ? | [16:20] |
| diana_coman: | !Qcalc 4*5411*(11*1.05+7*1.31+9+2*1.03) | [16:22] |
| lobbesbot: | diana_coman: 687846.32 | [16:22] |
| diana_coman: | literally not really worth the whole faffing about | [16:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol. ill pay 700k sure. | [16:22] |
| diana_coman: | mk | [16:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | gotta figure out the books. | [16:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | standing q's to you : grass ? eps ? | [16:23] |
| diana_coman: | what q grass do you want? | [16:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | 50-100 something like that i'm guessing. | [16:24] |
| diana_coman: | for anything non-basic I'll really wait for mining to lose delay; I can't price them sensibly at all; this grc now is for your dt but otherwise it's not very sensible as it stands | [16:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | as a minimum imean. max, i dun care. | [16:24] |
| diana_coman: | it seems I even have such grass, even more than a stack; and then of course, it was priced at >= 150\% | [16:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | mgh. | [16:26] |
| diana_coman: | precisely | [16:26] |
| diana_coman: | can't really sell until I know what is what again | [16:26] |
| diana_coman: | out of curiosity, what do you want to pay for it anyway? | [16:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | 120 i'd say | [16:28] |
| diana_coman: | myeah, you pay 130\% on q1 and then 120 on q 50-100 while mining hasn't yet actually even changed; what can I say | [16:29] |
| diana_coman: | it will have to wait; I'm dragging those teeth now | [16:29] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, trade? | [16:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | hit me | [16:30] |
| diana_coman: | did | [16:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | was it 29 or 27 ? | [16:31] |
| diana_coman: | does it show them fine now? | [16:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | i see 3 stacks | [16:31] |
| diana_coman: | it's the one from the calc | [16:31] |
| diana_coman: | 4*5411*(11*1.05+7*1.31+9+2*1.03) | [16:31] |
| diana_coman: | 11, 7 , 9 | [16:31] |
| diana_coman: | right? | [16:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | and 2 ? | [16:31] |
| diana_coman: | ugh | [16:31] |
| diana_coman: | you are right, let me go back and look for those | [16:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://logs.minigame.biz/2018-05-30.log.html#t10:22:51 << that was pre-change ; and it was lumber not basics, and what can i tell you!!! | [16:33] |
| lobbesbot: | Logged on 2018-05-30 10:22:51: <diana_coman> o.O tpt at 130\%? not bad | [16:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | if that's even what oyu meant ? | [16:33] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, picking teeth out of storage | [16:33] |
| diana_coman: | really? | [16:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | whole fucking deal was like 200k | [16:33] |
| diana_coman: | that tpt was lumped in there | [16:33] |
| diana_coman: | anyways, what can I tell you: it'll wait then; | [16:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | i confess to not having been paying ~that~ much attention, on account of pleasant noob, low values involved, buying my books anyway and so on | [16:34] |
| diana_coman: | anyways, teeth at the ready | [16:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | i r accept | [16:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | ty! | [16:34] |
| diana_coman: | enjoy | [16:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | o wow, this is mcguyver even. aite, lessee here. | [16:36] |
| diana_coman: | 1mn , congrats | [16:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | zilch ;/ | [16:38] |
| diana_coman: | well, 1 mn of nosehairs or what | [16:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | i got like 40 flags, which whatever, but ouch momma. | [16:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, i guess gotta keep trying wtf can i do. | [16:39] |
| diana_coman: | it's ok, statistically you'll be fine :D | [16:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | fuck me, zilch again | [16:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | and my silk consumption went up by one to boot. | [16:41] |
| diana_coman: | but that is helping as you get more in etc | [16:41] |
| diana_coman: | anyway, that's pretty much why I think it makes more sense to mix and get 800 - plenty more tries basically | [16:41] |
| diana_coman: | but anyway, won't pull teeth anymore | [16:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | bingo | [16:42] |
| diana_coman: | I saw you've got 1 dt | [16:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | 3.5mn value book. | [16:43] |
| diana_coman: | rather my noob who thinks it's you and so get moved weirdly got close enough to the toolkit | [16:43] |
| diana_coman: | aha, congrats | [16:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | alright, i think i'll take your teeth all basically. | [16:44] |
| diana_coman: | ... | [16:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | i dun even use but 2 at a time, and the dfiff they make is negligible. | [16:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | but you're not gonna make me pay 400\% for q 1 teeth are you ? | [16:44] |
| diana_coman: | the difference that would make would be rather negligible anyways; the more trouble is taking them out of storage | [16:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [16:45] |
| diana_coman: | anyways, the "solution" to this "problem" of q1 is simples: foxy has no q1; ever; problem solved | [16:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | so in the end one single book the entire 13 click run. | [16:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | about 40mn of materials bv in, less than 10\% book out. | [16:59] |
| diana_coman: | !Qcalc 5411*(18*0.99+13*0.13+200*0.01+277*0.14+13*0.13+327*0.15+9*0.96) | [17:01] |
| lobbesbot: | diana_coman: 647534.37 | [17:01] |
| diana_coman: | bv | [17:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | the teeth ? | [17:03] |
| diana_coman: | yeah,those are the teeth there at bv with 0 markup | [17:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | so call it what, 2mn ? | [17:03] |
| diana_coman: | works | [17:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | hit moi | [17:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | danke | [17:05] |
| diana_coman: | yw | [17:05] |
| lobbesbot: | A#171 O=1mn HB=1.8375mn E=06-04 22:23:00 (49h12) >>> 12 SoL q1735 | [17:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#172 O=1mn HB=1.8375mn E=06-04 22:23:04 (49h12) >>> 12 SoM q1735 | [17:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#173 O=1mn HB=1.8375mn E=06-04 22:23:07 (49h12) >>> 12 SoS q1735 | [17:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#174 O=14mn HB=14mn E=06-07 00:18:54 (99h8) >>> 8 CS q 883337 | [17:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#175 O=8mn HB=10mn E=06-04 13:16:29 (40h5) >>> 1100 TPT q2250 | [17:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#177 O=22mn HB=22mn E=06-06 18:39:39 (93h28) >>> 66529 LBN q2972 | [17:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#176 O=33mn HB=40mn E=06-07 14:31:24 (113h20) >>> 19815 LBN q15168 | [17:10] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 91.5125mn total bids --- | [17:10] |
| danielpbarron: | a 3.5 mn value book?? | [17:27] |
| lobbesbot: | A#171 O=1mn HB=1.8375mn E=06-04 22:23:00 (48h12) >>> 12 SoL q1735 | [18:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#172 O=1mn HB=1.8375mn E=06-04 22:23:04 (48h12) >>> 12 SoM q1735 | [18:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#173 O=1mn HB=1.8375mn E=06-04 22:23:07 (48h12) >>> 12 SoS q1735 | [18:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#174 O=14mn HB=14mn E=06-07 00:18:54 (98h8) >>> 8 CS q 883337 | [18:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#175 O=8mn HB=10mn E=06-04 13:16:29 (39h5) >>> 1100 TPT q2250 | [18:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#177 O=22mn HB=22mn E=06-06 18:39:39 (92h28) >>> 66529 LBN q2972 | [18:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#176 O=33mn HB=40mn E=06-07 14:31:24 (112h20) >>> 19815 LBN q15168 | [18:10] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 91.5125mn total bids --- | [18:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron, yteah | [18:16] |
| lobbesbot: | A#171 O=1mn HB=1.8375mn E=06-04 22:23:00 (47h12) >>> 12 SoL q1735 | [19:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#172 O=1mn HB=1.8375mn E=06-04 22:23:04 (47h12) >>> 12 SoM q1735 | [19:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#173 O=1mn HB=1.8375mn E=06-04 22:23:07 (47h12) >>> 12 SoS q1735 | [19:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#174 O=14mn HB=14mn E=06-07 00:18:54 (97h8) >>> 8 CS q 883337 | [19:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#175 O=8mn HB=10mn E=06-04 13:16:29 (38h5) >>> 1100 TPT q2250 | [19:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#177 O=22mn HB=22mn E=06-06 18:39:39 (91h28) >>> 66529 LBN q2972 | [19:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#176 O=33mn HB=40mn E=06-07 14:31:24 (111h20) >>> 19815 LBN q15168 | [19:10] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 91.5125mn total bids --- | [19:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman, btw, sg ? | [21:48] |
| lobbesbot: | A#171 O=1mn HB=1.8375mn E=06-04 22:23:00 (44h12) >>> 12 SoL q1735 | [22:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#172 O=1mn HB=1.8375mn E=06-04 22:23:04 (44h12) >>> 12 SoM q1735 | [22:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#173 O=1mn HB=1.8375mn E=06-04 22:23:07 (44h12) >>> 12 SoS q1735 | [22:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#174 O=14mn HB=14mn E=06-07 00:18:54 (94h8) >>> 8 CS q 883337 | [22:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#175 O=8mn HB=10mn E=06-04 13:16:29 (35h5) >>> 1100 TPT q2250 | [22:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#177 O=22mn HB=22mn E=06-06 18:39:39 (88h28) >>> 66529 LBN q2972 | [22:10] |
| lobbesbot: | A#176 O=33mn HB=40mn E=06-07 14:31:24 (108h20) >>> 19815 LBN q15168 | [22:10] |
| lobbesbot: | --- end of auction list, 91.5125mn total bids --- | [22:10] |
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