#eulora Logs for 04 Sep 2017



September 4th, 2017 by Diana Coman
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 143 has ENDED: 9960 CFT q 57 SOLD to mircea_popescu for 1.431mn coppers. Attn: diana_coman [12:52]
mircea_popescu: anyone selling slag ? or i guess F/SR ? [14:22]
danielpbarron: checks [15:36]
danielpbarron: i have more than 0.3 mn flotsam quality 1 [15:37]
mircea_popescu: and sr ? [15:38]
danielpbarron: not much [15:39]
danielpbarron: !~calc 300000*88*0.01 [15:40]
jhvh1: danielpbarron: 300000*88*0.01 = 264000 [15:40]
mircea_popescu: i dun have bps to use q1 basics sadly ;/ [15:42]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, trade for the cft? [15:54]
danielpbarron: i didn't notice i had been outbid :< would bid again if there is more to auction [15:57]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman now please. [15:58]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron i felt somewhat bad for it, but tyhen again you know lobbesbot has max bids implemented yea ? [15:58]
mircea_popescu: ohohoh check me out, 0.1mn sentiments! [15:59]
mircea_popescu: feelings, sorry. and 20k sentiments. [15:59]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, thanks [16:00]
mircea_popescu: ty diana_coman [16:00]
danielpbarron: what quality? [16:01]
diana_coman: danielpbarron, I suppose mircea_popescu can now sell them again and possibly get a higher price, lol; other than that it kind of sucks really since bps don't seem to re-appear at all despite clicks on cons so far [16:01]
mircea_popescu: q 28 [16:02]
danielpbarron: any word on the grubsilk threads or tomes? [16:02]
mircea_popescu: i have everything needed to produce. [16:02]
danielpbarron: i would bid on those for use in toiling, but not anything near 200\% [16:02]
mircea_popescu: could use some more teeth tho. [16:02]
diana_coman: pictures mircea_popescu without teeth [16:03]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron on which ? [16:03]
danielpbarron: feelings quality 28 [16:03]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman they were rotten anyway! [16:03]
diana_coman: too many sweets! [16:03]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron ah there's feelings demand ? tell you what, let me finish this run and then i'll sell. [16:03]
diana_coman: http://lobbesblog.com/queryauctions/pricehistory/view.php?ItemSHC=tpf&TimeLookback=&Quality=&QualityWidth=&SortBy= [16:04]
danielpbarron: i have a few teeth, could i exchange them for tomes? [16:04]
danielpbarron: i mean it doesn't make sense right now to use high quality feelings in toils when i think we all really would like to see more neophyte tinkerer's considerations being clicked [16:05]
mircea_popescu: not per se. i've no problem selling tomes, but i worry what if we manage to fuck it all up. [16:05]
diana_coman: danielpbarron, high quality feelings means > 200 I'd say [16:05]
danielpbarron: i wouldn't mind 150 even [16:05]
mircea_popescu: those would be very hardf to get. [16:05]
diana_coman: and that's what I used when clicked the neophyte cons, yeah; still, not even 1 single lonely cft bp [16:05]
diana_coman: honestly I start suspecting there is something special/wrong with this bp specifically but no idea [16:06]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron what do you want to do with tomes ? [16:06]
danielpbarron: tinkerer's considerations [16:06]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, not terribly hard atm with a good chain of noobs+intermediate crafters, no [16:06]
mircea_popescu: see, the problem is we need grubsilks and stuff. [16:06]
danielpbarron: who has the blueprints and what do they need? [16:07]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron but ima look into it and see what i can actually do, with specifics [16:07]
mircea_popescu: which ? [16:07]
danielpbarron: grubskilks [16:07]
diana_coman: danielpbarron, I think grubsilk bps are kind of ...rare atm [16:07]
mircea_popescu: nobody has any bps, is the problem. [16:07]
diana_coman: ^^ [16:07]
mircea_popescu: i used them all up. i got some gs, but not that much. [16:07]
mircea_popescu: no gs means no tomes means no cons at all so it could be problematic. [16:08]
danielpbarron: grubsilk is mcguyver? [16:08]
diana_coman: yes [16:08]
mircea_popescu: yes. [16:08]
danielpbarron: is there a demand for nosehairs? [16:08]
mircea_popescu: i dunno [16:08]
mircea_popescu: but i suspect grubsilk may be l2 [16:08]
mircea_popescu: or even -- god help us -- l3 [16:09]
danielpbarron: flags then.. hm [16:09]
mircea_popescu: i might have a few flags stashed. unless i sold them [16:09]
mircea_popescu: but this is the idea - i've no problem selling tomes, but to someonme who will click mcguyver l2. [16:09]
danielpbarron: bv of grubsilk is what, ~16390 ? [16:10]
mircea_popescu: about ya [16:10]
danielpbarron: yeah that might be l2 [16:10]
mircea_popescu: can sorta guess once you get a l2 clicked what's on its list [16:10]
danielpbarron: i have enough flags to do 1 to 3 l2 cons [16:11]
mircea_popescu: would you not prefer i load them ? [16:11]
danielpbarron: how many flags does yours want? [16:11]
danielpbarron: mine is about 2k [16:12]
mircea_popescu: nfi but will look in a moment. [16:12]
danielpbarron: but yeah, whoever can make it the highest quality should bundle it [16:12]
mircea_popescu: 6.1k [16:13]
danielpbarron: 0.o [16:13]
mircea_popescu: ikr. [16:13]
danielpbarron: i think i can scrape that many together [16:13]
mircea_popescu: i got 1.6k q 350! [16:13]
danielpbarron: quality 146 to 200 [16:13]
mircea_popescu: also mine's 5 to 7 books load. yours ? [16:14]
danielpbarron: 1 to 3 [16:14]
mircea_popescu: yeah well. [16:14]
danielpbarron: 3 to 5 on ink [16:14]
mircea_popescu: ok so basically i should just bundle you a mcguyv apprentice huh [16:15]
danielpbarron: i also need a consideration for that, and am i the right one to click that anyway? [16:15]
mircea_popescu: i have nfi. [16:15]
mircea_popescu: maybe a noob should click it. [16:15]
diana_coman: I can offer my intermediate tink -guy , some 200 tinkering [16:15]
danielpbarron: i wouldn't do that [16:15]
mircea_popescu: no noob ? [16:15]
danielpbarron: i used my alt to click a consideration and it just got one big maculature [16:16]
diana_coman: given the value of the bundle he'd probably be better off with some lower q cons so he gets more at still reasonable q instead of some 2k q [16:16]
mircea_popescu: wow. [16:16]
mircea_popescu: let me see what i hgave. [16:16]
mircea_popescu: i got q 29 app mcguyv [16:17]
diana_coman: should work fine actually [16:18]
danielpbarron: i would like that [16:18]
mircea_popescu: what are flags priced, 200\% was it ? [16:19]
danielpbarron: if quality over 150 i would say that is reasonable [16:20]
mircea_popescu: alright. so then ima make a bundle and who gets it ? [16:20]
danielpbarron: does it come with the quality 29 consideration? [16:21]
mircea_popescu: yeah. [16:21]
danielpbarron: i would bid [16:21]
diana_coman: I have some flags too some 343q and some 219/220 q [16:21]
diana_coman: if needed [16:21]
mircea_popescu: trying to make a bill of sale here ; cons 1k\% iirc they were, flags 200\%, i expect ink 300ish and books morel ike 350\% ish or so [16:21]
danielpbarron: i know how to use an alt to make very high quality ink [16:22]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i'd take high q in preference of lower. [16:22]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron how high is very high ? [16:22]
danielpbarron: 2k+ iirc [16:22]
diana_coman: noobs can make it as high as the q of your bundle mircea_popescu pretty much [16:22]
mircea_popescu: o sweet. 300\% seem reasonable to you ? both ways i mean. [16:22]
danielpbarron: probably can do higher if you made the bundles for it [16:22]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman wait. doews this mean i shouldn't make books myself ?! [16:22]
diana_coman: so if you make the ink bundle he can click it and get 1k q or whatevs [16:22]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, iffy [16:23]
diana_coman: because you make 9 books per bp; noob will make 1 single book per bp [16:23]
diana_coman: you add some value to it, noob adds nada, just packs it all in one high q [16:23]
danielpbarron: how many ink does your l2 want? [16:23]
diana_coman: so depends on what you want I guess [16:23]
mircea_popescu: i think i might be down to 8 dunno [16:23]
danielpbarron: i think 20 wouldn't be hard to make [16:23]
diana_coman: if you have low q bps it works with noob but high q bp is kind of wasted [16:24]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron 5 to 7 [16:24]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron 300\% above was re ink PRICE. what's sensible ? [16:24]
mircea_popescu: is that too much ? [16:24]
danielpbarron: i can make over 300 inks [16:25]
mircea_popescu: yes but how much would they cost ? [16:25]
mircea_popescu: m [16:25]
danielpbarron: blueprints that is, would also need ingredients [16:25]
danielpbarron: my ink blueprints are 60 [16:26]
mircea_popescu: my thinking here is this : since most of the bundle value comes from flags, and those are agreed at 200\% for some reason ; then it follows that if the other ingredients are high (ie, 300+) you want to use the minimum amt , and lowish q. whereas if they are about same price (ie, 200\%) then you want max qty of max qual. [16:26]
mircea_popescu: so can you sell that ink of q 1k+ at 200\% ? [16:26]
diana_coman: goes to count her snails [16:27]
danielpbarron: but whoever clicks that should probably be someone who is looking to invest in training a character. i feel like i'm wasting something when i have my alt do it and never rank up [16:27]
mircea_popescu: 99\% it will get wasted, we're talking 20mn+ bundle. nobody can use that, not even my tink is there. [16:27]
danielpbarron: oh i don't mean the consideration bundle [16:28]
danielpbarron: i mean the ink bundle [16:28]
mircea_popescu: oh oh [16:28]
mircea_popescu: yeah [16:28]
danielpbarron: i have no idea who is the right one to click the consideration itself [16:29]
danielpbarron: except that it shouldn't be a total noob [16:29]
mircea_popescu: you think he'd get a q 1mn maculature ? [16:29]
danielpbarron: i think he would get 1 maculature which has a quality adjusted base value about equal to the bundle + blueprint + tools or something [16:30]
mircea_popescu: what q was that maculature your noob made danielpbarron ? [16:30]
danielpbarron: 60k+ i think [16:30]
mircea_popescu: hm. i think i might wish to shred that. you selling ? [16:30]
danielpbarron: i think i already shredded it [16:30]
mircea_popescu: ah [16:30]
mircea_popescu: decent mites ? [16:30]
mircea_popescu: this is an important discovery, because i have a problem feeding the bouq line with numina. [16:31]
danielpbarron: yeah i did it for the mites <3 [16:31]
danielpbarron: i have toils to turn dust into mites [16:31]
danielpbarron: but i also have a lot of bits [16:31]
mircea_popescu: bits ? [16:32]
danielpbarron: lbn [16:32]
danielpbarron: i have mites, quality ranging 130 to over 300, thousands of each [16:33]
diana_coman: nice [16:34]
mircea_popescu: nb. [16:36]
mircea_popescu: do you use them ? [16:36]
danielpbarron: i do not have an immediate use for them, but i do have drudgeries; i need almost wine for those [16:37]
mircea_popescu: iirc i was selling it, stopped for lack of demand. [16:38]
mircea_popescu: or was it fgor lack of wwb [16:38]
danielpbarron: i have over 2 mn quality 1 wwb [16:39]
mircea_popescu: ya but these q 1 things. i need like q7-15 to producer. [16:39]
hanbot: <kisspunch> mircea_popescu: fuck you and your ecosystem << ahaha i just saw this, hysterical. totally mp's fault guy has never considered he doesn't and never will know much, totally not mp's blessing for forcing the realization despite ? years of total denial. [16:39]
mircea_popescu: maybe he was just being ufnny. [16:40]
hanbot: what, and then took off immediately on a high note? [16:40]
mircea_popescu: i dunno [16:41]
hanbot: i can't find my tolerance hat, ohwell [16:42]
mircea_popescu: lol [16:42]
diana_coman: from what I noticed around people generally fuck their blessings and only when really tired of that might even attempt anything else with them; so not exactly surprising I'd say [16:43]
shinohai: Ah yes, kisspunch ... the guy who obviously doesn't know what swapfiles are for when compiling: http://logs.minigame.bz/2017-09-02.log.html#t21:55:12 [16:47]
lobbesbot: Logged on 2017-09-02 21:55:12: <kisspunch> ugh... gcc ran out of space building [16:47]
shinohai: But "fuck this ecosystem, eh" [16:47]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, you got sentiments on the ground, lol [16:47]
mircea_popescu: o shit [16:47]
mircea_popescu: i wonder why, i got space in inv [16:48]
diana_coman: there was no space in the container [16:48]
mircea_popescu: o i c [16:48]
mircea_popescu: can you pick them uyp ? [16:48]
diana_coman: nope, guarded [16:49]
mircea_popescu: cool. [16:49]
danielpbarron: shinohai, you wanna click some ink? [16:50]
shinohai: Sure danielpbarron .... lemme join real quick [16:50]
hanbot: diana_coman not exactly surprising, no. the sheer ridiculousness of it leaves a little pocket for humor though, at least. [16:50]
danielpbarron: oh it's not ready now [16:50]
diana_coman: hanbot, there is that :) [16:50]
danielpbarron: but you should have gung ho gumbo and tinkering [16:51]
shinohai: gung ho gumbo ? [16:53]
danielpbarron: the skill used with the samovar [16:53]
shinohai: is @ lvl 32 tinkering [16:53]
danielpbarron: if you can get lvl 1 gung ho gumbo i'll pay for your training to make some ink for me [16:54]
shinohai: Cliff notes on how I can attain that? [16:55]
mircea_popescu: need a book is all. [16:55]
danielpbarron: i had the item at some point, you probably need to find a l1 book [16:55]
mircea_popescu: maybe a lot of practice to get out of the noob levels which are cheap [16:55]
mircea_popescu: foxy's something [16:55]
mircea_popescu: anyway, so i'm willing to continue the grubsilk -> mcguyv cons -> etc discussion any time. more than open to selling a cons / bundling / whartever else is needed. [16:57]
mircea_popescu: but for now back to ss manufacvutre. [16:58]
danielpbarron: i was trying to get threads so i could use my cs to get ss [16:58]
danielpbarron: i get ords which i have bundles for, but i also get smalls that disappear [16:58]
mircea_popescu: i got the thread to make cc myself. [17:00]
danielpbarron: 0.o [17:04]
mircea_popescu: hm ? [17:04]
danielpbarron: i would have guessed threads are in higher demand than cc [17:04]
mircea_popescu: well i dunno, i needed some cc. [17:05]
danielpbarron: to make qf? [17:05]
mircea_popescu: wtf did i want it for [17:05]
danielpbarron: scaffolding? [17:05]
mircea_popescu: i think yea [17:06]
danielpbarron: that's needed for screens? [17:06]
danielpbarron: i have a lot of maculatures to click [17:06]
mircea_popescu: yeah. [17:08]
hanbot: shinohai is symond you? [17:22]
diana_coman: hanbot, symond is one of my noobs [17:22]
shinohai: Nah, I'm Shinoa Fores [17:22]
hanbot: o o [17:22]
hanbot: i have a cooking book you can use shinohai, should be the right one [17:23]
shinohai: Well you're allright hanbot, no matter what mircea_popescu says about ya .... thx! [17:26]
mircea_popescu: wait what diod i say ? [17:26]
hanbot: lol [17:26]
mircea_popescu: ftr this queryauctions thing is very useful lobbes ! [22:27]
mircea_popescu: mwhahaha. [22:34]
mircea_popescu: that's 3rd pop today. [22:34]
mircea_popescu: anyone sell me a pile of small branches btw ? hanbot ? mod6 ? diana_coman ? danielpbarron ? [22:38]
hanbot: branchless, i'm afraid [22:43]
mircea_popescu: !~calc 5439 * 1.14 * 1000 * 2.0 [22:47]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 5439 * 1.14 * 1000 * 2.0 = 1.2400919999999998E7 [22:47]
mircea_popescu: !QAuction 12.5mn 48 1k IO q 114 [22:48]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 144 STARTED by mircea_popescu: 1k IO q 114 Opening: 12.5mn coppers Ending: 2017-09-07 02:48:25 UTC (48 hours) [22:48]
lobbesbot: A#144 O=12.5mn HB=No bids E=09-07 02:48:25 (47h3) >>> 1k IO q 114 [23:44]
lobbesbot: --- end of auction list, 0 total bids --- [23:44]

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