| mircea_popescu: | hm | [00:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | what if you don't move them, what happens ? | [00:01] |
| rinzler: | I just get an error saying that both are not found. I suspect if I could change the location in the code it might work, but I have no idea where that could be located | [00:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | it'd be ion the makefile. | [00:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, a number of diff people read these logs, may be able to suggest something to try later today. | [00:03] |
| mod6: | rinzler: what do the following give: | [00:03] |
| mod6: | echo | [00:03] |
| mod6: | echo | [00:04] |
| rinzler: | oh thats odd. is blank, while CRYSTAL directs to /dev/. I'm sure I set LD, though | [00:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | heh | [00:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | its per window | [00:05] |
| mod6: | try setting these as in the guide and then see | [00:05] |
| rinzler: | still nothing | [00:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | same death ? | [00:09] |
| rinzler: | yup, no change in the message | [00:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm | [00:09] |
| mod6: | Did step #5 complete successfully? | [00:10] |
| mod6: | (all the steps in that section) | [00:10] |
| rinzler: | Hm, let me go ahead and do it again | [00:11] |
| mod6: | Alright. | [00:12] |
| rinzler: | yeah step five completed successfully | [00:14] |
| mod6: | ok. go into the dev directory that you created to build all of these things. | [00:15] |
| mod6: | then do: pwd | [00:15] |
| mod6: | and paste us the result | [00:15] |
| rinzler: | I'm only getting home/usr/dev | [00:17] |
| mod6: | that's exactly what it says? | [00:17] |
| mod6: | "home/usr/dev" ? | [00:17] |
| rinzler: | usr in place of my user name | [00:17] |
| mod6: | oh. so actually like, "/home/rinzler/dev" then 'eh ? | [00:18] |
| rinzler: | yeah | [00:18] |
| mod6: | ok cool | [00:18] |
| mod6: | now paste us the result of : echo | [00:18] |
| mod6: | and | [00:18] |
| mod6: | echo | [00:18] |
| rinzler: | test | [00:20] |
| rinzler: | weird | [00:20] |
| rinzler: | "home/rinzler/dev/cs-forupload" for CRYSTAL | [00:21] |
| rinzler: | and "home/rinzler/dev/cal3d/src/cal3d/.lib/" | [00:21] |
| rinzler: | for LD | [00:21] |
| rinzler: | .libs* | [00:21] |
| mod6: | ok, it is very important that there actually be a preceeding '/' infront of this: "home/rinzler/dev/cs-forupload" | [00:22] |
| mod6: | is this the case? | [00:22] |
| rinzler: | yes, sorry | [00:22] |
| mod6: | ok np | [00:22] |
| mod6: | (same goes for: "home/rinzler/dev/cal3d/src/cal3d/.lib/") | [00:22] |
| rinzler: | yes | [00:22] |
| mod6: | so how did it go with step #6, did this complete successfully for you? | [00:23] |
| rinzler: | From what I remember, yes. | [00:24] |
| mod6: | can you pinpoint the exact step that you executed on the command line that yielded the error that you pasted before? | [00:25] |
| mod6: | (im just trying to figure out where things went south for ya) | [00:25] |
| rinzler: | step 7. "./configure --with-cal3d=/home/ossa/dev/cal3d" | [00:26] |
| mod6: | ah. ok | [00:26] |
| rinzler: | mircea suggested trying to change the location check for cs-config, as it looks for it in the usr/bin | [00:27] |
| mod6: | I've gone through these exact build steps myself, at least 3 times. maybe 4. don't think i ever had to do that. | [00:29] |
| mod6: | I have limited exp tho. | [00:29] |
| rinzler: | initially both cs-config-2.1 and cs-config could not be found until I moved it to the /usr/bin | [00:30] |
| mod6: | do you have ~34 files in /home/rinzler/dev/cs-forupload/bin ? | [00:30] |
| rinzler: | what would be the command to check for what? | [00:31] |
| mod6: | ( i guess 33 ) : | [00:32] |
| mod6: | anyway | [00:32] |
| rinzler: | 321 | [00:33] |
| mod6: | < rinzler> initially both cs-config-2.1 and cs-config could not be found until I moved it to the /usr/bin << makes me think that something in the cs build didn't come out right | [00:34] |
| mod6: | my bad too, you want to do: | [00:34] |
| rinzler: | 153 | [00:35] |
| mod6: | weird. | [00:35] |
| mod6: | can you paste us the output of: to p.bvulpes.com ? | [00:36] |
| rinzler: | instead of root, the access is currently on "rinzler" or my actual name. | [00:37] |
| mod6: | whatever the actual dir name is, I just wanna see what you have 153 of in there. | [00:38] |
| rinzler: | okay give me a min | [00:39] |
| mod6: | np take your time. | [00:39] |
| rinzler: | http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/AIkxa/?raw=true | [00:40] |
| mod6: | ok that looks ok. i don't know. the only thing I could do is simply just try to walk you through step-by-step one at a time. | [00:42] |
| mod6: | maybe someone else knows. | [00:43] |
| rinzler: | I might try the whole thing all over again. Maybe something is wrong with the cs build | [00:43] |
| rinzler: | could permissions potentially be a problem? | [00:44] |
| mod6: | yeah, that's my suggestion basically. start over completely. nuke your dev dir, start fresh. | [00:44] |
| mod6: | permissions can possibly get in the way, if you want to be sure, build it as root. | [00:44] |
| mod6: | however, fwiw, im looking at my build now, and I didn't, i built mine as a non-root user just fine. | [00:45] |
| rinzler: | hmm, well i'll see how it goes this time around. Thanks btw | [00:46] |
| mod6: | no prob. good luck. ping us and let us know how it goes. worst case, we can walk you through step-by-step, or I can even create a script out of the recipe to let you just execute that | [00:46] |
| danielpbarron: | in the gentoo instructions, we change cs-forupload to just cs, and dev is development. if you decide to start over with a whole new operating system (gentoo), i can direct you, rinzler | [02:28] |
| danielpbarron: | i mean, the hardest part is getting the right gentoo enviroment; eulora is the easy part | [02:30] |
| danielpbarron: | ubuntu is just fucked in general. at least with gentoo i can be sure you have the right stuff running | [02:30] |
| rinzler: | just got done with the walktest (took about 40 mins) I'll try gentoo if it still doesnt work | [02:31] |
| danielpbarron: | lol i haven't got walktest to work in a long while, but eulora still runs fine | [02:32] |
| danielpbarron: | but if walktest is working, i don't see why eulora wouldn't | [02:32] |
| rinzler: | well...same old issue. Ubuntu just wont work. Looks like I'm trying Gentoo. | [02:42] |
| rinzler: | "getting the right gentoo environment" meaning picking the right download? | [02:43] |
| danielpbarron: | heh | [02:48] |
| danielpbarron: | start here: http://danielpbarron.com/2017/gentoo-eulora-quest/ | [02:49] |
| danielpbarron: | should work if you follow it, but let me know, maybe they broke another thing | [02:49] |
| danielpbarron: | i'm sure i can fix it | [02:49] |
| danielpbarron: | rinzler, ^ | [02:50] |
| danielpbarron: | and you can probably do that from your ubuntu environment, the only difference would be your lilo command | [02:50] |
| danielpbarron: | but it should work from some general linux usb iso thing | [02:51] |
| danielpbarron: | and probably better that way so that your main hard drive shows up as /dev/sda | [02:52] |
| rinzler: | so you wouldnt suggest just going the vm route? | [02:53] |
| danielpbarron: | helllll no | [02:54] |
| danielpbarron: | just make a designated eulora machine | [02:55] |
| danielpbarron: | my recipe works on some <100 dollar ebay laptop | [02:55] |
| danielpbarron: | make sure it is a 64bit proc and has decent ram and an nvidia video card and you're good | [02:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | dedicated machine is good if possible yea | [02:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | i use it. | [02:56] |
| danielpbarron: | a ~20 nvidia card will get you a little under 20 fps which is usable in eulora atm | [02:56] |
| danielpbarron: | ~20 USD* | [02:56] |
| danielpbarron: | i've tested it on the dell latitude e6500 | [02:58] |
| danielpbarron: | not ideal, and if you can suggest a better model i'm all ears | [02:59] |
| rinzler: | okay so my machine already has two partitions, ubuntu and windows. | [02:59] |
| danielpbarron: | bleh | [02:59] |
| danielpbarron: | from what i've read, lilo is great for dual boots | [02:59] |
| danielpbarron: | but i don't know how to do that. but i suppose all of my instructions up to the lilo part would work | [03:00] |
| danielpbarron: | obviously substituting the right /dev/s | [03:00] |
| rinzler: | so the beginning, zeroing out my hard drive, that's not going to do anything to my current partitions right? | [03:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | he just meant delete the working dir and starting over | [03:03] |
| rinzler: | oh okay | [03:03] |
| danielpbarron: | rinzler, ah.. don't do that lol | [03:03] |
| rinzler: | lol | [03:03] |
| danielpbarron: | yeha if you're gonna dual boot, you will have to be carefull with all the /dev/sd*s | [03:04] |
| danielpbarron: | make sure it's the right drive and partitiion | [03:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron is used to the relative luxury of dedicated machines | [03:04] |
| danielpbarron: | srsly, so so much easier to get a dedicated machine | [03:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | i believe. | [03:05] |
| danielpbarron: | you can't pay less than 100 usd?? | [03:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | well not to try out a new game. | [03:05] |
| danielpbarron: | i mean it takes probably that much to get a decent thing going in eulora a this point | [03:05] |
| danielpbarron: | anyway i have to go atm, but i will respond to any questions when i get back | [03:05] |
| rinzler: | ok | [03:06] |
| rinzler: | i would nuke windows if it didnt have all my games | [03:12] |
| rinzler: | basically looking up how to add gentoo as a triple boot, so I suppose i'll be skipping some of the instructions | [03:30] |
| lobbes: | http://logs.minigame.bz/2017-08-31.log.html#t06:59:28 << I mean, if you're just trying to get a feel for the game there's always jurov's windows packages. They've worked for me on both windows 7 and 8.1 without a hitch. If interested in that route, check out: http://www.eulorum.org/Windows | [19:52] |
| lobbesbot: | Logged on 2017-08-31 06:59:28: <rinzler> okay so my machine already has two partitions, ubuntu and windows. | [19:52] |
| lobbes: | But it is true that for serious playing you should get an old box, slap gentoo on it and follow danielpbarron's instructions (this is what I also plan to do) | [19:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | a that's a point | [19:54] |
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