| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 44: 200 Chetty Divining Sticks, d 20254 Opening: 4mn Highest Bid: 4.5mn Ending: 2017-03-16 23:04:56 UTC (18 hours 45 mins) | [00:19] |
| danielpbarron: | don't explain that shit to him | [01:01] |
| Birdman: | why not | [01:01] |
| danielpbarron: | his head'l explode | [01:02] |
| Birdman: | is it just me or most people that you randomly meet online just sorta retarded? | [01:02] |
| danielpbarron: | not just you and not limited to online | [01:04] |
| Birdman: | doesnt get out much | [01:04] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 44: 200 Chetty Divining Sticks, d 20254 Opening: 4mn Highest Bid: 4.5mn Ending: 2017-03-16 23:04:56 UTC (17 hours 45 mins) | [01:19] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 44: 200 Chetty Divining Sticks, d 20254 Opening: 4mn Highest Bid: 4.5mn Ending: 2017-03-16 23:04:56 UTC (16 hours 45 mins) | [02:19] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 44: 200 Chetty Divining Sticks, d 20254 Opening: 4mn Highest Bid: 4.5mn Ending: 2017-03-16 23:04:56 UTC (15 hours 45 mins) | [03:19] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 44: 200 Chetty Divining Sticks, d 20254 Opening: 4mn Highest Bid: 4.5mn Ending: 2017-03-16 23:04:56 UTC (14 hours 45 mins) | [04:19] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, you around for sb pickup? | [04:58] |
| diana_coman: | market certainly seems a bit stuck from where I see it: sb goes for 1.7 and cs for 1.1; neither of those really makes a lot of sense to me atm | [04:59] |
| Birdman: | well ppb is noob made with 1/77 materials and with ords spitting out q1 sb i guess it makes sense | [05:04] |
| Birdman: | there are definitely more crafters of sorts than gatherers too, and im too poor to bid though cs is something i greatly desire | [05:05] |
| diana_coman: | Birdman, it doesn't make sense simply because it ends up more profitable to craft with it than to sell it | [05:11] |
| Birdman: | in certain hands, yeah | [05:11] |
| Birdman: | not in mine | [05:11] |
| diana_coman: | granted, this might be because Foxy has some crafting skills, can be | [05:11] |
| diana_coman: | but why do you actually desire cs so much? | [05:11] |
| Birdman: | cs definitely wont be going for 10\% premium | [05:11] |
| Birdman: | few reasons i guess | [05:12] |
| diana_coman: | well, I have to make a full run and figure out what it costs me to *make* them given that by the looks of it selling the resources is not necessarily a good idea | [05:12] |
| Birdman: | the most important being it is the most proper thing for my guy to do | [05:12] |
| diana_coman: | how/why is that? | [05:12] |
| Birdman: | gathering is my best skill and have always seen great results through my time in eulora | [05:13] |
| diana_coman: | I mean: why not other tools, why cs | [05:13] |
| Birdman: | ahh no bits! | [05:13] |
| diana_coman: | huh | [05:13] |
| Birdman: | lbn | [05:14] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, I got that; I was just realising the sort of narrow cone of options you got yourself into | [05:14] |
| Birdman: | you say that as if it wasnt the proper thing to do | [05:15] |
| diana_coman: | in my books it most certainly is not, no | [05:15] |
| Birdman: | considering the barehanding subsidy and my almost non existent bankroll, comparatively speaking of course | [05:16] |
| Birdman: | im better to compete in the gathering / building lines than i would ever be crafting | [05:16] |
| Birdman: | plus, theres value in just not directly competing with eulora's part-time deity! lol | [05:16] |
| diana_coman: | it's not even about that | [05:16] |
| diana_coman: | ahahaha | [05:16] |
| Birdman: | whats it about to you? | [05:16] |
| diana_coman: | well look above: so you chose gathering/building, fine; but then you can't do that because no lbn and you can't do the other because no cash and... | [05:17] |
| diana_coman: | you basically still can do bh only because it is subsidised by s.mg as it were | [05:18] |
| Birdman: | right | [05:18] |
| Birdman: | otherwise not being able to do *anything* | [05:18] |
| diana_coman: | the story of benefits/tax credits/food stamps or whatever it is the US | [05:18] |
| Birdman: | but look at the alternative | [05:19] |
| Birdman: | i would plain not have the money to be a crafter | [05:19] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 44: 200 Chetty Divining Sticks, d 20254 Opening: 4mn Highest Bid: 4.5mn Ending: 2017-03-16 23:04:56 UTC (13 hours 45 mins) | [05:19] |
| Birdman: | i found this out quickly when i tried doing bouq | [05:19] |
| Birdman: | which i think i am still more skilled in than most | [05:19] |
| diana_coman: | but how is that really? you made millions back in the day, you sold those wos for whatever they were etc | [05:20] |
| diana_coman: | so you know, it's not that there weren't "alternatives" | [05:20] |
| Birdman: | millions from gathering, hemorrhaging money bouqing | [05:20] |
| diana_coman: | now you can also have as many accounts as you want so noobs plenty basically etc | [05:20] |
| diana_coman: | so you basically used the temporary bounty to feed your bouq addiction, bwahaha | [05:21] |
| Birdman: | not so temporary | [05:21] |
| diana_coman: | well? is it still there? | [05:21] |
| Birdman: | i've done nothing but make money in my gathering | [05:21] |
| Birdman: | i've like ~20mn in bv of things | [05:21] |
| Birdman: | so i guess it is | [05:21] |
| Birdman: | just not in coppers | [05:22] |
| diana_coman: | ok, let's rephrase then : so you basically ate your seed-potatoes and now you are a starving farmer with "no alternative" but living on subsidies? | [05:22] |
| Birdman: | no | [05:22] |
| Birdman: | well | [05:22] |
| diana_coman: | you just said earlier that living on subsidies is the only thing currently available to you in eulora | [05:23] |
| Birdman: | im a gatherer, the crafting situation that is totally unrelated to my doings, the production of bits, is what is keeping me to either barehanding, or using tools that wont give me tiny claims | [05:23] |
| Birdman: | are you building tinies? is anyone | [05:23] |
| Birdman: | yeah im just arguing the point that i didnt put myself in that position from lack of branching out | [05:23] |
| diana_coman: | don't go into the "but others do /don't do" | [05:23] |
| diana_coman: | you did put yourself in that position; through poor resource allocation apparently | [05:24] |
| Birdman: | it was out of curiousity, the way i see it you 'd just be a fool to use normal tools | [05:24] |
| diana_coman: | options is not about branching out per se | [05:24] |
| Birdman: | well duh, i didnt game the market perfectly | [05:24] |
| Birdman: | with all the crazy changes too | [05:25] |
| diana_coman: | between "so poor that now I'm stuck" and "perfectly" there's a long way to go though | [05:25] |
| Birdman: | one day blueprints are hardly good for fire starter the next they're worth 10x basevalue | [05:25] |
| diana_coman: | eh, and the weather's been horrible this year for the crops, I know | [05:25] |
| Birdman: | hey those are your words, not mine | [05:25] |
| diana_coman: | which ones? | [05:26] |
| Birdman: | "so poor that im stuck" | [05:26] |
| diana_coman: | oh, so you are not..what? stuck? poor? | [05:26] |
| Birdman: | i am managing a bankroll | [05:26] |
| diana_coman: | ... | [05:26] |
| Birdman: | i didnt say anything about being stuck | [05:26] |
| Birdman: | i was just giving a theory as to why there isnt some huge bidding war on cs right now | [05:27] |
| diana_coman: | no, you just said that the only available option is to bh BECAUSE subsidised;if not subsidised you wouldn't be able to do anything | [05:27] |
| Birdman: | im a top gatherer without means to bid on something like that | [05:27] |
| diana_coman: | <Birdman> otherwise not being able to do *anything* | [05:27] |
| Birdman: | that was in explaining that crafting is just entirely not an option | [05:27] |
| diana_coman: | and "without means" is now somehow different from poor? how? | [05:27] |
| diana_coman: | mmmmmmk | [05:28] |
| Birdman: | am i alone in not using tools or lacking in bits? | [05:28] |
| Birdman: | yes? then i somehow have gotten myself stuck | [05:28] |
| diana_coman: | I have bits; I don't use them for entirely different reasons (mainly because I'm too busy programming to play much, lolz) | [05:28] |
| diana_coman: | I somehow doubt that mircea_popescu doesn't have lbn now | [05:29] |
| diana_coman: | I would be surprised to hear that danielpbarron doesn't have any either tbh | [05:29] |
| Birdman: | i even have maculature, but why would i ever use bits right now | [05:29] |
| diana_coman: | oh, so now that it transpired that indeed other people DO have bits, your argument has shifted to "but why would I "? | [05:30] |
| diana_coman: | mmmmk | [05:30] |
| Birdman: | they dont have bits though | [05:30] |
| Birdman: | obviously | [05:30] |
| diana_coman: | ??? | [05:31] |
| diana_coman: | lol | [05:31] |
| Birdman: | not enough to ever use them outside of building some expensive rare | [05:31] |
| Birdman: | i can quote a log insert where mp said he wont be making them anymore | [05:31] |
| diana_coman: | because people did not BUY them | [05:31] |
| diana_coman: | not because he doesn't HAVE them/can not make them | [05:31] |
| Birdman: | they were bought for the wrong price | [05:32] |
| Birdman: | apparently | [05:32] |
| diana_coman: | that's the meaning of people did not buy them, yes | [05:32] |
| Birdman: | right | [05:32] |
| diana_coman: | as above: people bought my sb; however, if the price is too low for me, then I won't sell any more sb | [05:32] |
| Birdman: | so its not my doing that has backed me into this corner | [05:33] |
| diana_coman: | IT IS | [05:33] |
| diana_coman: | you failed to buy the bits when they were available | [05:33] |
| Birdman: | any gatherer would be doing the same exact thing as me, besides maybe they have a way to lock certain profitable tiny claims | [05:33] |
| diana_coman: | what is so hard to get there? | [05:33] |
| diana_coman: | wtf | [05:33] |
| Birdman: | it isnt my fault they are in short supply, that makes no sense | [05:34] |
| Birdman: | if i won that auction someone else lost it | [05:34] |
| diana_coman: | for one thing looky here, Foxy is a gatherer and she is most pointedly not doing the same exact thing as you | [05:34] |
| Birdman: | its not like i couldnt buy some bits were they available tomorrow | [05:34] |
| diana_coman: | .... | [05:34] |
| Birdman: | are you using normal tools and building tinies? | [05:34] |
| diana_coman: | BECAUSE you did not bid on that auction they are NOT available tomorrow | [05:35] |
| diana_coman: | really | [05:35] |
| diana_coman: | and yes, I did use normal tools and built tinies after the update, yes | [05:35] |
| Birdman: | in a sort of sense yeah, my and the other 20 people that dont play didnt bid | [05:35] |
| diana_coman: | you are firmly committed to fighting the idea that YOU actually matter somehow in your own life, aren't you? | [05:35] |
| diana_coman: | what can I say: good luck then | [05:36] |
| Birdman: | gee tanks | [05:36] |
| Birdman: | i guess ill need it | [05:36] |
| diana_coman: | don't you? | [05:36] |
| Birdman: | no, i guess not | [05:36] |
| Birdman: | since i win the game | [05:36] |
| diana_coman: | is lost as to what game is that | [05:37] |
| Birdman: | eulora | [05:38] |
| Birdman: | what im doing right now is within my means and profitable | [05:38] |
| Birdman: | well since the last update im still working things out a bit | [05:38] |
| diana_coman: | subsidies be damned | [05:38] |
| diana_coman: | lolz | [05:38] |
| Birdman: | but in general | [05:38] |
| diana_coman: | but ok | [05:38] |
| diana_coman: | great, great | [05:38] |
| diana_coman: | is seriously considering overbidding herself on those cs because she can't possibly see how will there be more cs at 110\% markup | [05:39] |
| Birdman: | theres also something to be said about the lack of people participating in the market | [05:39] |
| Birdman: | which you just pointed out | [05:39] |
| Birdman: | is that really what needs to be done? are auctions really a good way to figure prices with the way eulora is and how little people are in it | [05:40] |
| diana_coman: | pointing things out is one thing; using them as scapegoats is a different thing | [05:40] |
| diana_coman: | anyways, I'm off | [05:40] |
| Birdman: | yeah my doings in my life up to this point put me in a situation where i dont have a ton of bitcoin to buy anything i could possibly want in this game | [05:40] |
| Birdman: | 2+2 is 4 | [05:40] |
| Birdman: | cant imagine how that directly effects the entire crafting process up to the point of the actual production of lbn to make them in short supply for lack of market interest | [05:41] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 44: 200 Chetty Divining Sticks, d 20254 Opening: 4mn Highest Bid: 4.5mn Ending: 2017-03-16 23:04:56 UTC (12 hours 45 mins) | [06:19] |
| diana_coman: | large stocks of cdg q1, for sale at 400\% <- ping me if anyone wants it | [06:31] |
| diana_coman: | or any of it I should say | [06:31] |
| Birdman: | will sell for 375\% | [06:43] |
| diana_coman: | go ahead Birdman ; how much do you have? | [06:45] |
| Birdman: | idk probs around 53k | [06:45] |
| Birdman: | nothin crazy | [06:46] |
| Birdman: | but i'd definitely sell for 375\% | [06:46] |
| Birdman: | most things i gather i mean | [06:46] |
| diana_coman: | cool stuff; as I said earlier: foxy would really need to sell grass at about 7-800\% to be more profitable than making it into cft so all the better | [06:47] |
| Birdman: | yeah, i think its a matter of getting q1 bps | [06:48] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 44: 200 Chetty Divining Sticks, d 20254 Opening: 4mn Highest Bid: 4.5mn Ending: 2017-03-16 23:04:56 UTC (11 hours 45 mins) | [07:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | what, i'm not selling anymore lbn. i said so, what, two weeks ago ? | [07:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman im around nao | [07:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman> market certainly seems a bit stuck << i guess we're headed for one hellf of an economic winter. i'm not going to sell any further lbn owing to the shit prices provided last i tried. cs doesn't look likely either. if you dun like 1.7 for sb i guess that's it for basics as iirc you were selling two thirds or something, and well... time for independence i guess. | [07:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | i mean experimenting is one thing, but the coppers are like 12.5 bucks a million by now. losing 4 mn is like 50 bucks, plenty enough to take a girl out for chrissakes. | [07:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://logs.minigame.bz/2017-03-16.log.html#t09:18:43 << funnay how that works huh. | [07:50] |
| lobbesbot: | Logged on 2017-03-16 09:18:43: <diana_coman> the story of benefits/tax credits/food stamps or whatever it is the US | [07:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://logs.minigame.bz/2017-03-16.log.html#t09:21:49 << that's not bad huh. enough to take five girls out! | [07:53] |
| lobbesbot: | Logged on 2017-03-16 09:21:49: <Birdman> i've like ~20mn in bv of things | [07:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman the question is, your sb at 1.7 still no good even with cs at 1.1 ? :D | [07:55] |
| Birdman: | lol | [07:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | wonders wtf to do next. | [08:13] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 44: 200 Chetty Divining Sticks, d 20254 Opening: 4mn Highest Bid: 4.5mn Ending: 2017-03-16 23:04:56 UTC (10 hours 45 mins) | [08:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://logs.minigame.bz/2017-03-16.log.html#t09:40:05 << theoretically open outcry auction is the golden standard of the free market. this is a fundamental pillar of liberal economic theory, much like saying "women get a voice in who fucks them" is a fundamental pillar of identity politics or "owner of property can evict all others" is a fundamrental pillar of any nationalism. | [08:19] |
| lobbesbot: | Logged on 2017-03-16 09:40:05: <Birdman> is that really what needs to be done? are auctions really a good way to figure prices with the way eulora is and how little people are in it | [08:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | now, it doesn't seem to be working worth two shits in practice. | [08:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | and not just because today, or because pre-update. it's not clear to me it at any point in the year+ of eulora econoimic history it actually got anywhere NEAR or even in te general direction of an actual price. | [08:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | perhaps its most hysterical failure is that time hanbot bought a package for x and sold the parts for x/2 in total. | [08:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | within the space of a day or so. | [08:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | certainly eulora went a very long way in disabusing me of any sort of economic notion fashionable after ~1795 or so. | [08:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | would like to write an article, but unfortunately for the rank imbeciles constituting the rest of the world, they lack the context that'd make it meaningful and there's no simple way to compensate this infirmity of theirs. | [08:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | moreover, just like the cripple is disincentivized from trying for the marathon, just so the clueless are disinterested in the things they're clueless about. so it's a well stable situation. | [08:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://logs.minigame.bz/2017-03-16.log.html#t09:41:53 << everything's a blockchain!!!1 but yeah, you might have a point there. | [08:26] |
| lobbesbot: | Logged on 2017-03-16 09:41:53: <Birdman> cant imagine how that directly effects the entire crafting process up to the point of the actual production of lbn to make them in short supply for lack of market interest | [08:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | holy shit you DO have a point there. consider : | [08:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | situation : hanbot bought item (x+y+z+k) for Q moneys. then hanbot sold item x, y, z, k for w1...w4 moneys. because x y z k sum to (x+y+z+k) whereas wi sum to Q/2, and because this happened instantaneously, it is proposed that "the auction dun work". | [08:29] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu> diana_coman the question is, your sb at 1.7 still no good even with cs at 1.1 ? :D <- do you mean to say that you'd keep selling cs at 1.1 if I sell basics at 1.7? | [08:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | in response : the market that bought (x+y+z+k) was composed not of n people but of like... 4. 5 ? the market that bought x, y, z and k was composed not of n-1 people, but of like... 3. | [08:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | well FUCKING OBVIOUSLY if you take out 25\% of the market the price drops. and since you don't take the 25\% randomly, but you select the richest (she won, didn't she ?) then the price dropping to half ain't even half surprising. | [08:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman i dunno specifically, i was trying to discern if maybe market is telling things we dun wanna hear. | [08:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | that's the problem, as above : it's always hard to distinguish your own psychogenic noise from the murmur of economics. | [08:30] |
| Birdman: | makes sense | [08:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, the above can be well applied to the case at hand : there's a difference between birdman ad personam, a guy who http://logs.minigame.bz/2017-03-16.log.html#t09:38:14 and birdman as ein anderes, "why did nobody (aka you!) bid on x". | [08:32] |
| lobbesbot: | Logged on 2017-03-16 09:38:14: <Birdman> what im doing right now is within my means and profitable | [08:32] |
| diana_coman: | re the selling a third or whatevs: now I have about half million grass; I haven't even bought cft lately and not planning to buy any really; so certainly offering it, not "a third" ; BUT if I make it into cft it's that crazy profit thing so can't really sell it at 1.7 or whatevs | [08:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | these two may be the same thing in some contexts, but that context can't be opposed to the person, and so the idea that the context's nonsensical has some merit. | [08:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman no i meant that out of the total basics sold in whatever intervals, you sold like 2/3 | [08:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | ie, majority seller. | [08:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | basically the moral of the above story being : because eulora is so few people, there's VERY much merit to that playful "oh, everyone's a whole country" like in http://trilema.com/2015/whoever-said-resource-allocation-is-a-solved-problem-deserves-a-kick-in-the-nads/ | [08:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | i mean on one hand everyone's you knwo, anon guy like in consumer society, at least in his own mind, if i buy a hamburger it makes no difference either way. | [08:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | but on the other hand everyone's fucking russia, and yes if you buy a hambuger it pushes the price up whereas if you don't whole fucking factories and counties and whatnot go out of work. | [08:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | there's a certain imperial majesty to being an eulora player today. | [08:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | amusingly enough, the problem in oct 2015 just like today march 2017 is, and i quote, http://logs.minigame.bz/2015-10-01.log.html#t11:25:03 | [08:39] |
| lobbesbot: | Logged on 2015-10-01 11:25:03: <mircea_popescu> and of course now the problem that faces me is the twin headed monster of how to split and how to price this bunch of chetty sticks. | [08:39] |
| euloraplayer: | mircea | [08:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | yes ? | [08:39] |
| euloraplayer: | good morning, i would like to talk in private | [08:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | that's not happening. | [08:40] |
| euloraplayer: | yes,, it is not happening | [08:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://logs.minigame.bz/2017-03-16.log.html#t09:39:21 << there likelyt won't be, the problem is that sure, some things like cft you can put in q 50 and get 100 or w/e, who cares. but with cs you tend to put in high q to get out high q. so the same mechanics don't apply. | [08:41] |
| lobbesbot: | Logged on 2017-03-16 09:39:21: * diana_coman is seriously considering overbidding herself on those cs because she can't possibly see how will there be more cs at 110\% markup | [08:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | i mean yes the blueprint pressure eased, i make multiple sticks per bp now. and that also eases the tool decay, yes. but i still burn toothpaste, and lots of it, and so on. | [08:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman http://logs.minigame.bz/2017-03-16.log.html#t10:31:33 << yeah. how much ? | [08:43] |
| lobbesbot: | Logged on 2017-03-16 10:31:33: <diana_coman> large stocks of cdg q1, for sale at 400\% <- ping me if anyone wants it | [08:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | Birdman you can have 400\% too, trade me | [08:48] |
| diana_coman: | <mircea_popescu> ie, majority seller. <- aha | [08:48] |
| diana_coman: | and re grass: I'm dragging now about 445k to town | [08:49] |
| diana_coman: | it's a single pile too! | [08:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | sweet. | [08:49] |
| Birdman: | ah im out mining rn will save em for ya | [08:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | im guessing we'll soon find out what low q cft goes for. | [08:50] |
| diana_coman: | the "everyone's Russia" actually quite stands, huh | [08:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman i don't suppose you also have high q grass for sale ? | [08:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman ayup. it's what it is. | [08:51] |
| diana_coman: | ugh, if only I knew how to price that really | [08:51] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, what price would you charge for cs so it's sustainable for you? considering sb at 400\% I suppose | [08:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman i'll explain the logic here. if i burn bps on q 1 grass, i get cft like 15 or so say. same bps with q 50 grass would get me cft over 100. now it's evidently that you're better off burning a bp to add 50 qpoints rather than 14. | [08:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | so if this can be arranged, it'd be in everyone's interest. | [08:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman let's first figure out this 1 pass 1 resource item neh ? | [08:52] |
| diana_coman: | lolz, quite; a bit later though as atm I need to run around a bit irl | [08:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | aite. | [08:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | gives danielpbarron a chance to comment also | [08:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | this'll be known as the eulora woods or something lol. | [08:53] |
| euloraplayer: | Birdman, | [09:05] |
| Birdman: | hello | [09:05] |
| euloraplayer: | hello good morning | [09:05] |
| euloraplayer: | i would like to tanks you for the trade yesterady | [09:06] |
| Birdman: | more like a late night for me, but still gud | [09:06] |
| Birdman: | no problem | [09:06] |
| Birdman: | really it helped me more than you | [09:06] |
| euloraplayer: | ok, i may just to believe | [09:06] |
| Birdman: | ive probably made in basevalue like 300 or so from enumerations alredy | [09:06] |
| euloraplayer: | i am considering it almost as a kindness help from your part | [09:07] |
| Birdman: | i needed it either way, figured it'd keep you happy and healthy to make a little coppers | [09:07] |
| Birdman: | otherwise i was just gonna bug danielpbarron for one | [09:08] |
| euloraplayer: | help please... how may i acquire the Gathering skill? | [09:12] |
| Birdman: | you'd have to buy either the skill or the skill book | [09:13] |
| Birdman: | which are both probably pretty expensive | [09:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | you can have fdsg for 100k. | [09:15] |
| euloraplayer: | fdsg? | [09:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | foxy's dismall scribblings on gathering. | [09:18] |
| euloraplayer: | ok .. ihave found just now | [09:18] |
| euloraplayer: | thanks | [09:18] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 44: 200 Chetty Divining Sticks, d 20254 Opening: 4mn Highest Bid: 4.5mn Ending: 2017-03-16 23:04:56 UTC (9 hours 45 mins) | [09:19] |
| euloraplayer: | yes.. really many expensive to me at this moment | [09:24] |
| euloraplayer: | *much | [09:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | like a buck. | [09:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | incidentally danielpbarron it occurs to me, ECu is like the easiest/cheapest/fastest way for noob to obtain bitcoin exposure | [09:26] |
| euloraplayer: | i know ..its may be 0.0010000 Or ,2..but it IS very expensive to me at this specific moment | [09:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | there's no rush euloraplayer | [09:27] |
| euloraplayer: | thanks... mircea | [09:27] |
| euloraplayer: | pease help... how may i explore for a CDG? | [09:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | grass is on that grassy hill between the desert and that narrow gulf | [09:29] |
| euloraplayer: | wow | [09:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | see diana_coman 's or mod6 's mining maps,s hould be on the wiki / etc | [09:29] |
| euloraplayer: | only asking once more time...there is a way to see the whole landscape...where I am and the whole island? | [09:45] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 44: 200 Chetty Divining Sticks, d 20254 Opening: 4mn Highest Bid: 4.5mn Ending: 2017-03-16 23:04:56 UTC (8 hours 45 mins) | [10:19] |
| euloraplayer: | mircea, Birdman...could you please me help to explore some "Clump of Dry Grass (CDG)"? | [10:38] |
| Birdman: | -367 0 -367 | [10:38] |
| Birdman: | around there | [10:39] |
| euloraplayer: | ok.. i will try there | [10:39] |
| Birdman: | well, theres a hill you should see before there thats decent for grass | [10:39] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, I'm back; can trade now | [10:42] |
| euloraplayer: | Birdman, yes thanks you | [10:43] |
| diana_coman: | euloraplayer, there is no way to see the whole landscape in game, no; no more than you can see the whole Earth from where you are | [10:43] |
| diana_coman: | euloraplayer, you can also just walk around and LOOK at the existing claims - where you see many that are cdg claims, it's likely you'll find cdg too, no? | [10:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman do. | [10:44] |
| diana_coman: | !~calc 444794*60*0.01*4+160000 | [10:44] |
| jhvh1: | diana_coman: 444794*60*0.01*4+160000 = 1227505.6 | [10:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman well, how's he to know that ? game'\s weird enough | [10:44] |
| diana_coman: | he can't know it; he CAN try it though and see what happens | [10:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | i guess there's that. | [10:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | ty | [10:45] |
| diana_coman: | thank you | [10:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | all dem half millionz! i never saw chunks of resources quite like this b4 | [10:45] |
| diana_coman: | aha; if only I figured out a way of getting at least 1k of high q resources same style | [10:46] |
| diana_coman: | anyways, getting back to mining and grass in particular | [10:46] |
| diana_coman: | low q such as this is easy/clear enough to me how to get and what would be a fair price as far as I can tell | [10:46] |
| diana_coman: | thing is: there are at least 2 more levels higher up | [10:47] |
| euloraplayer: | diana_coman, thanks for your answer.... | [10:47] |
| diana_coman: | meaning it's one thing grass around 130q | [10:47] |
| diana_coman: | and quite another thing grass >200q | [10:47] |
| diana_coman: | or even 900q | [10:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | i would be happy even with grass q20. | [10:47] |
| diana_coman: | or >1000q (yes, I can get this) | [10:47] |
| diana_coman: | oh | [10:47] |
| diana_coman: | that should be quite doable really | [10:47] |
| diana_coman: | hmm | [10:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | see, my idea is, i want to make bundles around bq 50. | [10:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | BUT here's the catch : currently i turn grass from q1 to cft q 15 say. that is 15x or +14. | [10:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | alternatively i could turn grass from q 50 to cft say 100. that is +50, however ONLY 2x | [10:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | see how this goes ? | [10:48] |
| diana_coman: | euloraplayer, yw; don't be afraid to try out things though, there's little you can lose atm in eulora | [10:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | well seeing how he put nothing in, there's exactly 0 he can lose in that sense. | [10:49] |
| diana_coman: | yes mircea_popescu ; I'm kind of leaving that headache to crafters :D | [10:49] |
| diana_coman: | precisely my point re he can't lose, yes | [10:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | well yes, but the only solution here seems to be transparentization. otherwise the market will lock up | [10:49] |
| euloraplayer: | ahh..nothing to be realistic..only my time | [10:50] |
| diana_coman: | euloraplayer, what are you doing otherwise with your time anyway? | [10:50] |
| euloraplayer: | eventually my mental health | [10:50] |
| euloraplayer: | BUT | [10:51] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, I guess so, yes; thing is: atm Foxy at least is really quite fine with low q cft for all that matters | [10:51] |
| euloraplayer: | what i want to say is | [10:51] |
| euloraplayer: | : | [10:51] |
| diana_coman: | that's another headache basically: re what q cft to use best where etc | [10:51] |
| diana_coman: | lots of headaches | [10:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman so you'd use q 10-20 cft without complaints ? | [10:51] |
| diana_coman: | I am currently using...q31 | [10:52] |
| euloraplayer: | i have been looking around and really find some existing claims of CDG | [10:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | mkay. but this opens up the risk that we'll fuck ourselves over and be without cft bps. | [10:52] |
| diana_coman: | I guess I'd rather not go below q30 if possible, but I suspect this depends on each player too | [10:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | i mean, currently if i make say 8 a click, and they come out say q 15, i get 120 points of cft per bp. that's more than before, but... | [10:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | will i be able to replenish my bps from the sale ? | [10:53] |
| euloraplayer: | and just now i have been able to use /explore and created my own claim of CDG and combined with cft forming some CDGs | [10:53] |
| diana_coman: | myeah, I know what you mean there; thing is: how am I to answer that question? | [10:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | i dunno. | [10:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | but it stands to reason that getting 400 points is better than getting 120. | [10:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | nevertheless, i can't buy grass at 200\% to put into a process which does 2x, because ... fuck me how do i pay for bps ? | [10:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | let's work a numeric example. | [10:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | say, for the sake of argument, cft bp is 200 coppers. | [10:54] |
| diana_coman: | ok | [10:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | i could take 25 cdg q 1, worth therefore 15 copper and turn it into say 8 cft q 15, worth thus 216 coppers. | [10:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | so i make a copper a click. | [10:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | this is at bv. | [10:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | if i take 400\% grass, im spending 260 to get 216. | [10:55] |
| diana_coman: | true | [10:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | now, say i take 25 cdg q 50, worth therefore 750 bv / ? market and make 8 cft q 100, worth 1440 bv / ? market | [10:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | these are the two equations, the above and this : | [10:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | else i take 25 cdg q 1, worth therefore 15 bv / ? market and make 8 cft q 15, worth 216 bv / ? market | [10:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | so what's better, a 790 bv gain with a 200\% increase or a 200 bv gain with a 1200\% increase ? | [10:57] |
| diana_coman: | hm, this would be a question of whether it's in demand at that q or not | [11:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | well anything is in demand function of its price, at least in theory. neh ? | [11:04] |
| diana_coman: | myeah; lots of circles to turn around in | [11:04] |
| diana_coman: | it also depends on the bp situation anyway and I have no clue there | [11:05] |
| diana_coman: | but I meant the above in the sense that focusing on increase in bv means relying on s.mg primarily, as a buyer of last resort; focusing on increase in q instead relies on player market | [11:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | the problem with bps, and esp cft bps, is that they can never be enough | [11:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | in principle. smalls could eat any cft. | [11:09] |
| diana_coman: | is there anything that is ever enough in eulora? | [11:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | i think i have enough moss :D | [11:09] |
| diana_coman: | come to think of it: I haven't made goop in AGES | [11:09] |
| diana_coman: | not needed to, I mean | [11:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | aha. i made some stacks, still eating them | [11:10] |
| diana_coman: | see, goop is SO FILLING, that it lasts ages, lol | [11:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [11:10] |
| diana_coman: | but yes, smalls COULD eat any cft; trouble is that it's not even clear there what's the best to do anyway even at the level of "what q bundle should I use" - esp given that one gets all sorts of q output anyway even with same q bundle | [11:11] |
| diana_coman: | and if one goes for extremes then fine, 1 cft q1 | [11:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | i can't make q1 cft, though the noobs prolly could. | [11:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | but they will b urn SO MANY bps... | [11:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | honestly it's probably a dead end because likely i'd pay more for their bps than what they could get this way | [11:14] |
| diana_coman: | sweet spots all around, floating in the sour soup of how the hell to figure them out, lol | [11:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | how much do you want for q 150 grass then ? | [11:17] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 44: 200 Chetty Divining Sticks, d 20254 Opening: 4mn Highest Bid: 4.5mn Ending: 2017-03-16 23:04:56 UTC (7 hours 45 mins) | [11:19] |
| lobbes: | http://logs.minigame.bz/2017-03-16.log.html#t12:23:55 << on the other hand, this never stopped you before | [11:19] |
| lobbesbot: | Logged on 2017-03-16 12:23:55: * mircea_popescu would like to write an article, but unfortunately for the rank imbeciles constituting the rest of the world, they lack the context that'd make it meaningful and there's no simple way to compensate this infirmity of theirs. | [11:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | lel | [11:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | there are limits. also im lazy! | [11:19] |
| danielpbarron: | !Qbid 44 5mn | [11:28] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 44: 200 Chetty Divining Sticks, d 20254 Heard: 5mn from danielpbarron overbidding diana_coman Ending: 2017-03-16 23:04:56 UTC (7 hours 36 mins) | [11:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman how much do you want for q 100-200 cdg ? | [11:29] |
| danielpbarron: | whenever i'm doing maths to figure out what quality to use as input, i try to find the spot where i get the greatest profit in base value per click | [11:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron trying to, but needs materials you know ? | [11:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | i mean otherwise what do i do... sit on all that grass, come april diana_coman will be "hey, i sold you a boatload of grass, why no cft for sale ?" | [11:30] |
| danielpbarron: | http://logs.minigame.bz/2017-03-16.log.html#t12:53:19 | [11:30] |
| lobbesbot: | Logged on 2017-03-16 12:53:19: <mircea_popescu> gives danielpbarron a chance to comment also | [11:30] |
| danielpbarron: | i'm sitting on enormous amounts of stuff that i won't sell for similar reasons to the lbn crisis | [11:31] |
| danielpbarron: | and i am indeed like a country | [11:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | gotta sort something out here. | [11:31] |
| danielpbarron: | i'm a pretty self sufficient country too | [11:31] |
| diana_coman: | ugh; atm I'd say 500\% ; trouble being ofc that I have yet to figure out a way to actually get even reasonably large quantities | [11:31] |
| diana_coman: | it does seem that we are kind of too self sufficient for much trade | [11:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | i dunno... i would very much buy materials and craft. | [11:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | all countries are in principle independent by nature and interdependent by convenience. | [11:34] |
| diana_coman: | well, "at the right price" I suppose and it's there the rub atm | [11:40] |
| diana_coman: | !Qbid 44 6mn | [11:41] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 44: 200 Chetty Divining Sticks, d 20254 Heard: 6mn from diana_coman overbidding danielpbarron Ending: 2017-03-16 23:04:56 UTC (7 hours 23 mins) | [11:41] |
| danielpbarron: | !Qbid 44 6.3mn | [11:53] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 44: 200 Chetty Divining Sticks, d 20254 Heard: 6.3mn from danielpbarron overbidding diana_coman Ending: 2017-03-16 23:04:56 UTC (7 hours 11 mins) | [11:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman so let's see. if i pay 500\% on q 150 and 400\% on q1, i will need 49 high qs for every 100 low q's, meaning i want like 250k as it stands now. | [11:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | further my price per cft will then be (49 * 1.5 * 5 +100 * 0.01 * 4) / 149 = 2.493288591 per 50 ie 498.6577181\% for the grass. | [11:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | so then on the left side i have 180 * .5 * 4.98 + 200 = 648.2 each thread. | [11:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | would you be willing to pay say 650 ecu per q 100ish cft, diana_coman ? | [11:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | ie ~360\% | [11:59] |
| diana_coman: | hm, sounds rather iffy; I'll get some more data on higher q cft use and hopefully get back later today/tomorrow | [12:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | aite. | [12:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | we gotta somehow figure out some central cycles, something. a place to start making sense of the pile | [12:06] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 44: 200 Chetty Divining Sticks, d 20254 Opening: 4mn Highest Bid: 6.3mn Ending: 2017-03-16 23:04:56 UTC (6 hours 45 mins) | [12:19] |
| euloraplayer: | please...som help | [12:34] |
| euloraplayer: | i am lost in the island | [12:35] |
| euloraplayer: | someone may take me from here ? | [12:36] |
| diana_coman: | euloraplayer where do you want to get to? | [12:39] |
| diana_coman: | use /pos and /pilot and ...make notes as to what is where? | [12:40] |
| diana_coman: | sketch your own map, you know? | [12:40] |
| euloraplayer: | I may understand..trying to do it | [12:41] |
| euloraplayer: | but i have been lost | [12:41] |
| euloraplayer: | i am at 202 -600 82 | [12:41] |
| euloraplayer: | i walk, walk, walk and can arrive to 175 0 150 | [12:41] |
| euloraplayer: | *cant | [12:42] |
| diana_coman: | so use /pilot 175 0 150 | [12:42] |
| diana_coman: | to point you towards that | [12:42] |
| diana_coman: | and then walk while checking /pos from time to time | [12:42] |
| diana_coman: | if you really want an idea of the whole island as such, there is an image I posted in here: http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/07/31/solid-branches-in-empty-space-euloras-first-woman-made-satellite/ | [12:43] |
| euloraplayer: | is what i have been done these last ....hours | [12:43] |
| diana_coman: | so then be specific about what went wrong, you know? | [12:43] |
| diana_coman: | in all those hours: did you sketch any sort of map of the places you walked about? | [12:44] |
| euloraplayer: | fantastic...map | [12:47] |
| euloraplayer: | yes... but a determined moment i felt dow into an abyss | [12:48] |
| diana_coman: | and then? | [12:48] |
| diana_coman: | oh, I see; you managed to fall off the map, sigh | [12:50] |
| euloraplayer: | hehe | [12:50] |
| euloraplayer: | sorry for ask .. what means "sigh"? | [12:51] |
| diana_coman: | ask mircea_popescu , maybe he can sort you out | [12:51] |
| diana_coman: | what do you do outside eulora, euloraplayer ? | [12:51] |
| euloraplayer: | i am lost , diana_coman | [12:52] |
| diana_coman: | you are | [12:52] |
| diana_coman: | log out, ask mircea_popescu for help to put you back on the island and then wait | [12:52] |
| euloraplayer: | BUT, not so lost due the point you was able to meet me side by side | [12:52] |
| diana_coman: | eh, foxy is special | [12:52] |
| diana_coman: | in the movement sense, lol | [12:52] |
| euloraplayer: | :) | [12:52] |
| diana_coman: | hacker-power | [12:53] |
| euloraplayer: | i see | [12:53] |
| euloraplayer: | you have done the bot and plenty of other things | [12:53] |
| euloraplayer: | do you want more than that? | [12:53] |
| euloraplayer: | then your suggestion is : logout and ask mireca here to place me in the island again? | [12:55] |
| diana_coman: | it's what I said, no? | [12:56] |
| euloraplayer: | *mircea | [12:56] |
| euloraplayer: | yes... would be just fantastic.. if you simply could teletransport me... | [12:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | aite. | [12:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | how the hell did he manage to fall THROUGH the ground. | [13:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | is there a hole at 203,,83 ? | [13:01] |
| euloraplayer: | ahah | [13:01] |
| euloraplayer: | i have no idea... | [13:01] |
| euloraplayer: | i just have fallen in a great abyss | [13:02] |
| euloraplayer: | something like a normal human would not survive | [13:02] |
| diana_coman: | euloraplayer, try to keep within the map though | [13:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman he was. | [13:03] |
| euloraplayer: | :) | [13:03] |
| euloraplayer: | my curr position is 206 600 83..."above the sky" | [13:06] |
| euloraplayer: | "above the clouds" | [13:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | and now ? | [13:06] |
| diana_coman: | euloraplayer, did you log out and then back in? | [13:07] |
| euloraplayer: | yes, but i will do again | [13:11] |
| euloraplayer: | same situation | [13:12] |
| euloraplayer: | logget out and logged in...but same coords | [13:13] |
| diana_coman: | log out and stay out until your character gets sorted | [13:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | you're being uniquely unhelpful. | [13:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman he was out. | [13:13] |
| euloraplayer: | logged out now | [13:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | euloraplayer why ? | [13:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman honestly i think he's just dedicated to autistically trolling. | [13:16] |
| diana_coman: | lol | [13:16] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 44: 200 Chetty Divining Sticks, d 20254 Opening: 4mn Highest Bid: 6.3mn Ending: 2017-03-16 23:04:56 UTC (5 hours 45 mins) | [13:19] |
| euloraplayer: | lol | [13:22] |
| euloraplayer: | no ..im not autistically trolling | [13:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | aite then. | [13:23] |
| euloraplayer: | mircea, you have asked "why". I ask you why what? | [13:23] |
| euloraplayer: | sorry.. i need to ask ...what is "aite"? | [13:23] |
| diana_coman: | !Qbid 44 7mn | [13:25] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 44: 200 Chetty Divining Sticks, d 20254 Heard: 7mn from diana_coman overbidding danielpbarron Ending: 2017-03-16 23:04:56 UTC (5 hours 39 mins) | [13:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~google aite | [13:26] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: Aite Group : <http://aitegroup.com/>; Academy of Information Technology & Engineering: Home Page: <https://www.aitestamford.org/>; Academy of Information Technology & Engineering ( AITE ) Stamford ...: <http://www.stamfordpublicschools.org/academy-information-technology-engineering-aite> | [13:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | :D | [13:26] |
| diana_coman: | ahahaha | [13:27] |
| euloraplayer: | wow..thanks | [13:27] |
| euloraplayer: | I had never heard of her | [13:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | right. | [13:30] |
| euloraplayer: | ok | [13:32] |
| euloraplayer: | may i just to come back to a easier place in the island? | [13:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | words items thinks i say sense device utterly ? | [13:38] |
| danielpbarron: | scratches his head | [13:42] |
| euloraplayer: | if this last phrase was sent to me... things got a little worst... | [13:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | hey, i'm totally not autistically trolling! | [13:42] |
| euloraplayer: | i want means the last phrase of mircea..not from daniel... | [13:43] |
| danielpbarron: | !Qbid 44 7.35mn | [13:44] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 44: 200 Chetty Divining Sticks, d 20254 Heard: 7.35mn from danielpbarron overbidding diana_coman Ending: 2017-03-16 23:04:56 UTC (5 hours 20 mins) | [13:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | ty ty | [13:44] |
| danielpbarron: | i'm not creative enough to come up with authentic sounding autist trollese | [13:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah it's a pretty high bar. | [13:46] |
| diana_coman: | if it doesn't pass for autist trollese, you can always call it a haiku | [13:46] |
| euloraplayer: | thnks again | [14:03] |
| euloraplayer: | for all | [14:03] |
| euloraplayer: | now..who know diana_coman may help me...? | [14:05] |
| euloraplayer: | i am not being able to reach my 'original' goal... | [14:06] |
| euloraplayer: | for sure i havent something is missing or i have not read or understood some thing that is essencial | [14:06] |
| danielpbarron: | yeah, the entirety of the logs | [14:10] |
| euloraplayer: | ahah.. i m still human | [14:10] |
| danielpbarron: | u sayin i'm not human? | [14:10] |
| euloraplayer: | and english is not my native language | [14:11] |
| euloraplayer: | no..im not saying this | [14:11] |
| euloraplayer: | have you really read the entirety of the logs? | [14:11] |
| danielpbarron: | in this chan ya | [14:11] |
| euloraplayer: | i would not be read the entirety of logs in three days | [14:12] |
| danielpbarron: | i mean, i am responsible for producing a sizable chunk of it | [14:12] |
| euloraplayer: | *could | [14:12] |
| euloraplayer: | ahaha | [14:12] |
| euloraplayer: | cool | [14:12] |
| euloraplayer: | at least you can affirm this | [14:13] |
| danielpbarron: | should be doable in 6 months tho | [14:13] |
| euloraplayer: | uff | [14:13] |
| euloraplayer: | a lot of time | [14:13] |
| danielpbarron: | what that's a semester | [14:13] |
| euloraplayer: | but who knows if i will have this time... | [14:14] |
| danielpbarron: | well here's the thing. nobody here is gonna negotiate with you about it | [14:15] |
| danielpbarron: | do it. don't do it. we don't care | [14:15] |
| euloraplayer: | well. as i can see... the first day of the log was 2015-07-04 - almost two years ago | [14:16] |
| danielpbarron: | wait till you find out it's the #trilema log you need to read and how far back that goes | [14:17] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 44: 200 Chetty Divining Sticks, d 20254 Opening: 4mn Highest Bid: 7.35mn Ending: 2017-03-16 23:04:56 UTC (4 hours 45 mins) | [14:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | what are you trying to do euloraplayer | [14:31] |
| euloraplayer: | a | [14:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | lmao | [14:32] |
| euloraplayer: | cft | [14:32] |
| euloraplayer: | i dont know what means "lmao"? | [14:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | so what do they do in your country ? | [14:33] |
| euloraplayer: | a lot of things | [14:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | right. | [14:35] |
| euloraplayer: | they kill, they fight, they kiss and they curse and they swear | [14:36] |
| euloraplayer: | and they work also | [14:37] |
| euloraplayer: | BUT, what means "lmao"? | [14:37] |
| euloraplayer: | oh.. i was forgetting they pray also | [14:38] |
| euloraplayer: | and would someone willing to help me once more? | [14:39] |
| euloraplayer: | oh i was forgetting.. they lie and steal also...I cant to say how much frequency... | [14:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | laughing my ass off. | [14:42] |
| euloraplayer: | answering your question i am trying do a CFT... | [14:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | you'll need some grass and a cft blueprint. | [14:42] |
| euloraplayer: | oh..very thanks | [14:43] |
| euloraplayer: | yes, its is funny really | [14:44] |
| euloraplayer: | and... | [14:44] |
| euloraplayer: | how i can get a grass and a cft blueprint? | [14:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | you go read the wiki, find the guide for this, etcetera. | [14:45] |
| euloraplayer: | i know what i think is the cft blueprint from diana | [14:45] |
| euloraplayer: | but i dont know if i need a cft blueprint as a phisical item in game (to place in the container, inventory, or other place) | [14:46] |
| euloraplayer: | and i dont know how to get a grass | [14:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | you go read the wiki, find the guide for this, etcetera. | [14:47] |
| euloraplayer: | see that: http://www.dianacoman.com/Eulora/Coarse-Frangible-Thread.html .. I think this is the cft blueprint | [14:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | right. | [14:47] |
| euloraplayer: | ok.. i have the 3 CDG already | [14:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | cool. | [14:49] |
| euloraplayer: | but i place them in the craft-table | [14:50] |
| euloraplayer: | @placed | [14:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | got a bp ? | [14:50] |
| danielpbarron: | he has an html file.. | [14:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [14:51] |
| euloraplayer: | no... i just read the bp.. | [14:51] |
| euloraplayer: | i need a phisycal bp in the game? | [14:51] |
| euloraplayer: | @physical | [14:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | yep | [14:52] |
| euloraplayer: | oh..once more thanks. | [14:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | get someone to sell you one, should be ~200 coppers depending on quality.\ | [14:53] |
| euloraplayer: | could you sell me one for 200 coppers? | [14:54] |
| euloraplayer: | mircea... i am at your side..in-game | [14:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | you're lucky, i actually have some on me | [14:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc 1.87 * 180 | [14:55] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: 1.87 * 180 = 336.6 | [14:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | that'll be 350 coppers. | [14:55] |
| euloraplayer: | ok..just let me think and check | [14:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | it's q 187. | [14:56] |
| danielpbarron: | ffs | [14:56] |
| euloraplayer: | i havent 350 coppers | [14:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | o.O | [14:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | sup danielpbarron ? | [14:57] |
| euloraplayer: | there is another way to get a bprint | [14:58] |
| euloraplayer: | ? | [14:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | they can be crafted. the click costs ~3mn and requires tools and shit that are rare and expensive. | [14:58] |
| diana_coman: | they might also materialise out of thin air if you pray, kiss and swear with the right frequency | [14:59] |
| danielpbarron: | how do you not have 350 ?? didn't Birdman give you 1k ? | [14:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | maybe he spent it at the titty bar. | [15:04] |
| danielpbarron: | i imagine that'll actually be a thing in eulora eventually | [15:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | i should hope. | [15:07] |
| euloraplayer: | im a kind of ... i have spent it in a bandar-toolkit..thinking that it may be useful or necessary in a time in the future | [15:09] |
| euloraplayer: | but i can get the 350 coopers | [15:10] |
| euloraplayer: | wait a minute please | [15:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | enjoy | [15:16] |
| euloraplayer: | calm dow | [15:16] |
| euloraplayer: | *calm down.. | [15:16] |
| euloraplayer: | how make it...i need to go to the craft table at electron spirover? | [15:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | if you don't have your own, yes. | [15:18] |
| euloraplayer: | ty | [15:19] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 44: 200 Chetty Divining Sticks, d 20254 Opening: 4mn Highest Bid: 7.35mn Ending: 2017-03-16 23:04:56 UTC (3 hours 45 mins) | [15:19] |
| diana_coman: | !Qbid 44 8mn | [15:29] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 44: 200 Chetty Divining Sticks, d 20254 Heard: 8mn from diana_coman overbidding danielpbarron Ending: 2017-03-16 23:04:56 UTC (3 hours 35 mins) | [15:29] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu> ie ~360\% <- to my own surprise it turns out this should work actually | [15:30] |
| euloraplayer: | mircea, and those willing to help....."you do not have the right amount of right itens for that yyou have in mind"... | [15:31] |
| diana_coman: | euloraplayer, trouble with helping you is that the result of that help is...more requests for help | [15:31] |
| diana_coman: | how about you help yourself for once, too? | [15:31] |
| euloraplayer: | oh diana... | [15:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman wow srsly ?! | [15:32] |
| diana_coman: | euloraplayer, try figuring out what that message says, you know | [15:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | if you commit to buying half the results i'm game, get me 250k cft and let's get this show on the road. | [15:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | course that prolly means cs should be 500\% not 200\% as it used to be, but w/e. | [15:32] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, the trouble with mining is that one can't really say as in crafting: I'll get THIS out exactly | [15:33] |
| diana_coman: | kind of gambling all the way | [15:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman i don't care. i need the high grass to mix q 50ish bundles. get me anything between 100 and 200. | [15:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | we can normalize it to 150 for the purpose of volume counting. | [15:33] |
| diana_coman: | I meant in terms of value even, hence my calculations are more like...approximations | [15:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | mmm | [15:34] |
| diana_coman: | and yeah, I made my calculations such as they are with cs at 200\%, hence my bid | [15:34] |
| diana_coman: | well, cs smalls yield pretty much anything between 5k and 30k - I can't even say I really mapped all the space | [15:35] |
| diana_coman: | cs ords yield low q really and I'm not going to mix now 300 st and other madness | [15:35] |
| diana_coman: | I'm not rich enough for that I suppose | [15:35] |
| diana_coman: | anyways, I'll set foxy on grass to get high q for now and we'll see | [15:36] |
| euloraplayer: | diana_coman, now i have understood..i right-clicked the recipe and now i see that the bundle requires only 1 grassp | [15:36] |
| diana_coman: | see euloraplayer ? have eyes to read, have mind to understand, use them; well done | [15:37] |
| euloraplayer: | not three as i had in the craft-table | [15:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | aite. | [15:38] |
| euloraplayer: | BUT, the problem was that your recipe says 3 grass for 1 cft(see that http://www.dianacoman.com/Eulora/Coarse-Frangible-Thread.html) | [15:38] |
| danielpbarron: | euloraplayer, it was formerly 3 for all players, but since an update (you should have read about) it varies per player | [15:38] |
| diana_coman: | euloraplayer, that is not a problem; read the logs and only then claim you found "problem" | [15:38] |
| euloraplayer: | ok..thank you all | [15:39] |
| diana_coman: | you are welcome | [15:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | my recipe says like 25 | [15:41] |
| euloraplayer: | can you at least indicate me the lnk of this update | [15:42] |
| euloraplayer: | ? | [15:42] |
| diana_coman: | I guess this would serve as introduction: | [15:42] |
| diana_coman: | http://danielpbarron.com/2017/the-unreasonable-update/ | [15:42] |
| diana_coman: | otherwise the logs have a search function too, use it; | [15:43] |
| diana_coman: | euloraplayer, how old are you? | [15:45] |
| euloraplayer: | a lot | [15:47] |
| euloraplayer: | why? | [15:49] |
| diana_coman: | because you sound more like "a little" | [15:49] |
| euloraplayer: | yes, maybe | [15:50] |
| diana_coman: | why are you so evasive whenever someone here asks you a question? | [15:50] |
| euloraplayer: | why youw want to know? | [15:50] |
| euloraplayer: | even you answer.. i do not reveal my true identity for while | [15:51] |
| diana_coman: | you keep asking for help; people help you; then you get all funny when they ask you basic stuff; what do you think the end result of this is likely to be? | [15:52] |
| euloraplayer: | this is the answer for your previous question | [15:52] |
| diana_coman: | mk | [15:52] |
| euloraplayer: | i dont know what means "mk"? | [15:52] |
| diana_coman: | why do you want to know? | [15:52] |
| danielpbarron: | grins | [15:53] |
| euloraplayer: | is not the same... | [15:53] |
| euloraplayer: | you asked my age.. i asked you what means mk | [15:53] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, receiving end is NEVER the same | [15:53] |
| euloraplayer: | to me is totally diferent... | [15:53] |
| diana_coman: | good for you | [15:53] |
| euloraplayer: | lets try do the opossite them... | [15:54] |
| diana_coman: | is done trying for today | [15:54] |
| euloraplayer: | what is your age? or how old are you? | [15:54] |
| danielpbarron: | I'm 30 i live in ct my name is Daniel | [15:55] |
| euloraplayer: | yes.. and Diana? | [15:55] |
| euloraplayer: | altough .. i dont know what is "ct" | [15:55] |
| danielpbarron: | you are not in a position to demand such info. i gave it voluntarily | [15:56] |
| euloraplayer: | yes.. i am just demanding...asking ... changing the receiving end... | [15:57] |
| euloraplayer: | i have already gave my answer...i have my own reason to not tell my age or identity | [15:57] |
| danielpbarron: | you are exhibiting signs of being an agent sent to waste our time, and we're trying to pin you down to some sort of identity (which agents, like roaches exposed to light, abhor) | [15:58] |
| euloraplayer: | BUT | [15:58] |
| euloraplayer: | since we may become friends...eventually i may answer like you Daniel | [15:58] |
| danielpbarron: | if you are lucky you'll still be here tomorrow | [15:59] |
| euloraplayer: | I am XX, i live in rj ny name is Zah | [15:59] |
| euloraplayer: | ok..people dont stay so braves with me... im really thansfull for your help and have apreciated the game.... just some things are not so simple to do ..or learn | [16:01] |
| euloraplayer: | there are tons of instructions and logs | [16:02] |
| diana_coman: | euloraplayer, you are NOT in a position to change anything around here | [16:02] |
| euloraplayer: | but im not looking for change anything | [16:03] |
| euloraplayer: | only if was possible to change for better | [16:03] |
| euloraplayer: | as an kind of altruism | [16:03] |
| euloraplayer: | or even General well-being | [16:04] |
| diana_coman: | let me repeat that : you are not in a position to change ANYTHING around here | [16:04] |
| euloraplayer: | i am not looking for change anything diana | [16:04] |
| diana_coman: | don't mistake people's benevolence towards you with them being your equals | [16:05] |
| euloraplayer: | i was just trying to learn how to play | [16:05] |
| diana_coman: | <euloraplayer> yes.. i am just demanding...asking . | [16:05] |
| diana_coman: | you were basically impertinent | [16:06] |
| euloraplayer: | maybe , but not for a bad reason, or with a bad intention | [16:08] |
| euloraplayer: | i was just trying to learn to play | [16:08] |
| euloraplayer: | to make the bundles, to read the wikis | [16:08] |
| euloraplayer: | to get the skills | [16:08] |
| euloraplayer: | to lear to explore | [16:09] |
| euloraplayer: | to undesrtand the map | [16:09] |
| euloraplayer: | to read the history of the game... | [16:10] |
| danielpbarron: | stop trying to explain yourself when we haven't asked it of you!! | [16:10] |
| diana_coman: | sure, go and learn; also feel free to ask as long as you realise that you are asking for a favour and you are not contributing anything; therefore mind your place | [16:10] |
| euloraplayer: | ok,, each person reacts in in your own way | [16:11] |
| diana_coman: | perhaps not for a bad reason; but certainly out of a deluded idea regarding your position around here | [16:11] |
| euloraplayer: | im still thanksfull for the help that was given | [16:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | i see this is progressing nicely. | [16:11] |
| euloraplayer: | i was not wanting change.. i was / am wanting learn | [16:15] |
| euloraplayer: | the first time i tried to make the bundle..that daniel has teached me... It was not so easy as you may have think..but at the final i have learned something | [16:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | good for you. | [16:17] |
| euloraplayer: | to me was not so intuitive to right-click the elements to know more about them | [16:17] |
| euloraplayer: | one more thing learned..thanks to you daniel, diana, mircea | [16:18] |
| euloraplayer: | how may my position be interpreted as someone who is trying to change anything there? | [16:18] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 44: 200 Chetty Divining Sticks, d 20254 Opening: 4mn Highest Bid: 8mn Ending: 2017-03-16 23:04:56 UTC (2 hours 45 mins) | [16:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | so diana_coman : doing what looks like a 6 day click. we grass afterwards ? | [17:02] |
| diana_coman: | sure; it will take a while to gather any significant amount of high q grass here | [17:02] |
| diana_coman: | it takes about 1 hour /stick as it is | [17:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | kinda exciting tbh. | [17:02] |
| diana_coman: | yes, I'm still searching for a mistake in my approximations/calculations, lol | [17:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc 250000 * 60 | [17:03] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: 250000 * 60 = 15000000 | [17:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | 20mn worth of grass being demanded, will take a while huh. if it's half sticks then 1k hours, 40 days. wowza. | [17:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | nobody tried a remarkable since the changes huh. we have nfi what it does even | [17:04] |
| diana_coman: | I would rather expect it is low q as output seeing how ord is low q even with higher q bundles | [17:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah there is that huh | [17:04] |
| diana_coman: | and we still can't really make high q remark bundles anyway | [17:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | basically, stick smalls are the best source are they | [17:04] |
| diana_coman: | of high q certainly | [17:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | ya | [17:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | what you should do is get a #1 pop out of a small. | [17:05] |
| diana_coman: | but to reach 250k total it's kind of looking for a pop or otherwise growing old | [17:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | 150mn or so worth. should do us for a bit. | [17:05] |
| diana_coman: | ahaha, would like to, yes | [17:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | aite then it's a deal. | [17:06] |
| diana_coman: | the funny thing is that it's of course not even clear if one should just fully pump as much value into the small as possible or what | [17:07] |
| diana_coman: | I mean: I can easily pump into it 14k with cft about 100q | [17:07] |
| diana_coman: | and then I get out...8k | [17:07] |
| diana_coman: | onth I put in about 4k and I get 10k-18k | [17:07] |
| diana_coman: | so a bit of wtf in all directions | [17:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm | [17:08] |
| diana_coman: | or maybe I should even make a pile of cft 400q and so pump in some 30k ? | [17:09] |
| diana_coman: | who knows | [17:09] |
| diana_coman: | 52k* | [17:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm | [17:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, maybe try each of these ? dunno. | [17:15] |
| diana_coman: | question being: how many tries of each of those? lol | [17:17] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 44: 200 Chetty Divining Sticks, d 20254 Opening: 4mn Highest Bid: 8mn Ending: 2017-03-16 23:04:56 UTC (1 hours 45 mins) | [17:19] |
| danielpbarron: | uhh.. i have done 2 remarks since change | [17:20] |
| danielpbarron: | where do you think all that moss came from?? | [17:22] |
| danielpbarron: | unless there is some other change from this week i haven't bumped into yet | [17:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron did you dig them up ? | [18:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh oh. | [18:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | so they do give q 1 huh | [18:07] |
| danielpbarron: | ya, with electron bundle | [18:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | aha | [18:14] |
| danielpbarron: | no suprise, electron bundle q is very low compared to what my enum describes | [18:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | yea | [18:15] |
| danielpbarron: | if a noob did it, might get higher q | [18:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | have a noob mine remarks ? | [18:16] |
| danielpbarron: | but probably not 200 q | [18:16] |
| danielpbarron: | i'd guess they might get 50 q | [18:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | how do you reason ? | [18:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | noob gets 1 grass per cft, not 3. if noob gets say 1 per and the remark recipe calls for 3, the q200 bundle might in effect be for him like 500 or something. so he could get high q | [18:17] |
| danielpbarron: | the enum describes to them a bundle that is much lower quality | [18:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | ya. | [18:17] |
| danielpbarron: | so electron's 200 q might be "high" to them | [18:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | well 200 is high anyway, not 100 | [18:18] |
| danielpbarron: | 200 is not high, for me, for anything i do | [18:18] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 44: 200 Chetty Divining Sticks, d 20254 Opening: 4mn Highest Bid: 8mn Ending: 2017-03-16 23:04:56 UTC (0 hours 45 mins) | [18:19] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, on ords I get q1-3 with bundles q250-295 | [18:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | ever tried a noob ? | [18:19] |
| diana_coman: | I got some q30 iirc but with bundles 500+ | [18:19] |
| diana_coman: | well, they can't get lower than q 1, can they | [18:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah. maybe danielpbarron is right then, noob'd get 50ish on remark with electron bundle | [18:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman the expectation is they'd get higher than you | [18:20] |
| diana_coman: | hm; maybe | [18:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | cause bundle is higher to them, being the logic. | [18:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | i suppose that dude disappeared like an hour before being useful did he ? | [18:21] |
| danielpbarron: | !Qbid 44 8.4mn | [18:21] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 44: 200 Chetty Divining Sticks, d 20254 Heard: 8.4mn from danielpbarron overbidding diana_coman Ending: 2017-03-16 23:04:56 UTC (0 hours 43 mins) | [18:21] |
| diana_coman: | o.O | [18:21] |
| danielpbarron: | you need a noob? i got one | [18:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | a good point. | [18:21] |
| diana_coman: | <mircea_popescu> i suppose that dude disappeared like an hour before being useful did he ? <- more like an eternity before being useful | [18:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | lel | [18:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, i say try a noob on ord claim, what can it hurt | [18:22] |
| danielpbarron: | i'm almost done making 10 stacks of ppbb q 1 | [18:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | wowza | [18:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | 770k sb ?! | [18:23] |
| danielpbarron: | nope :D | [18:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol. wut then ? | [18:23] |
| diana_coman: | I suspect he made the bundles out of 1 sb | [18:23] |
| danielpbarron: | 10 stacks sb | [18:23] |
| diana_coman: | with the noob | [18:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh with the noob. wha't's he take, 10 ? | [18:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | aha | [18:24] |
| danielpbarron: | i can almost hear the nerf being written! | [18:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | nah. | [18:26] |
| diana_coman: | lol! | [18:26] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 44 has ENDED: 200 Chetty Divining Sticks, d 20254 SOLD to danielpbarron for 8.4mn coppers. Attn: mircea_popescu | [19:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | im in town danielpbarron | [19:06] |
| danielpbarron: | k, omw | [19:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | ping when here ? | [19:38] |
| danielpbarron: | mircea_popescu, ping | [19:39] |
| danielpbarron: | ty | [19:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | enjoy! | [19:39] |
| danielpbarron: | !~calc 9999*77*58*0.01 | [19:41] |
| jhvh1: | danielpbarron: 9999*77*58*0.01 = 446555.34 | [19:41] |
| Birdman: | mircea_popescu you around to pick up that grass | [19:42] |
| danielpbarron: | !Qauction 446556 18 1 stack PPBB q 1 | [19:43] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 46 STARTED by danielpbarron: 1 stack PPBB q 1 Opening: 446556 coppers Ending: 2017-03-17 17:43:01 UTC (18 hours) | [19:43] |
| danielpbarron: | particularily promising branch ~bundle~ ^ | [19:43] |
| Birdman: | !~calc (58*77)*.01*9999 | [19:43] |
| jhvh1: | Birdman: (58*77)*.01*9999 = 446555.34 | [19:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | yes Birdman | [19:43] |
| Birdman: | !Qbid 46 446555 | [19:43] |
| lobbesbot: | Birdman: Error: Try bidding moar. Starting Bid is 446.556k, you bid 446555 | [19:43] |
| Birdman: | duh lol | [19:44] |
| Birdman: | !Qbid 46 446555.35 | [19:44] |
| lobbesbot: | Birdman: Error: Invalid bid input. Examples of valid input: 12 ; 37k ; 1.3mn | [19:44] |
| Birdman: | !Qbid 46 446556 | [19:44] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 46: 1 stack PPBB q 1 Heard: 446.556k from Birdman Ending: 2017-03-17 17:43:01 UTC (17 hours 58 mins) | [19:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | !Qbid 46 1mn | [19:44] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 46: 1 stack PPBB q 1 Heard: 1mn from mircea_popescu overbidding Birdman Ending: 2017-03-17 17:43:01 UTC (17 hours 58 mins) | [19:44] |
| danielpbarron: | neato | [19:44] |
| danielpbarron: | hm, i have an idea | [19:49] |
| Birdman: | !~calc 60*.01*4*53006 | [19:49] |
| jhvh1: | Birdman: 60*.01*4*53006 = 127214.4 | [19:49] |
| Birdman: | mircea_popescu ^ | [19:49] |
| Birdman: | not bad for a single ord eh | [19:49] |
| danielpbarron: | !~calc 20254*20 | [19:49] |
| jhvh1: | danielpbarron: 20254*20 = 405080 | [19:49] |
| Birdman: | selling any more danielpbarron ? | [19:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc 4 * 60 * 0.01 * (8088+8088+8088+9999+9999+8744) | [19:49] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: 4 * 60 * 0.01 * (8088+8088+8088+9999+9999+8744) = 127214.4 | [19:49] |
| danielpbarron: | !Qauction 405080 18 20 CDS q 20254 | [19:50] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 47 STARTED by danielpbarron: 20 CDS q 20254 Opening: 405080 coppers Ending: 2017-03-17 17:50:16 UTC (18 hours) | [19:50] |
| danielpbarron: | chetty's divining stick ^ | [19:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | ty | [19:50] |
| Birdman: | tyty | [19:50] |
| Birdman: | !Qbid 47 405080 | [19:50] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 47: 20 CDS q 20254 Heard: 405.08k from Birdman Ending: 2017-03-17 17:50:16 UTC (17 hours 59 mins) | [19:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | not a bad idea huh. | [19:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | !Qbid 47 600k | [19:52] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 47: 20 CDS q 20254 Heard: 600k from mircea_popescu overbidding Birdman Ending: 2017-03-17 17:50:16 UTC (17 hours 58 mins) | [19:52] |
| Birdman: | !Qbid 47 725k | [20:11] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 47: 20 CDS q 20254 Heard: 725k from Birdman overbidding mircea_popescu Ending: 2017-03-17 17:50:16 UTC (17 hours 38 mins) | [20:11] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 46: 1 stack PPBB q 1 Opening: 446.556k Highest Bid: 1mn Ending: 2017-03-17 17:43:01 UTC (17 hours 23 mins) | [20:19] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 47: 20 CDS q 20254 Opening: 405.08k Highest Bid: 725k Ending: 2017-03-17 17:50:16 UTC (17 hours 30 mins) | [20:19] |
| Birdman: | are you still needing wwb mircea_popescu ? | [20:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | yes | [20:22] |
| Birdman: | awesome | [20:22] |
| Birdman: | i wonder what a remark would yield | [20:41] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 46: 1 stack PPBB q 1 Opening: 446.556k Highest Bid: 1mn Ending: 2017-03-17 17:43:01 UTC (16 hours 23 mins) | [21:19] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 47: 20 CDS q 20254 Opening: 405.08k Highest Bid: 725k Ending: 2017-03-17 17:50:16 UTC (16 hours 30 mins) | [21:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | prolly a lot. | [21:37] |
| Birdman: | maybe if you need high quality enough you could have a noob build to cut down on the variance in quality or something | [21:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | conceivably. | [21:44] |
| Birdman: | if thats how it works | [21:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | well we see once diana noobmines an ord or something | [21:46] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 46: 1 stack PPBB q 1 Opening: 446.556k Highest Bid: 1mn Ending: 2017-03-17 17:43:01 UTC (15 hours 23 mins) | [22:19] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 47: 20 CDS q 20254 Opening: 405.08k Highest Bid: 725k Ending: 2017-03-17 17:50:16 UTC (15 hours 30 mins) | [22:19] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 46: 1 stack PPBB q 1 Opening: 446.556k Highest Bid: 1mn Ending: 2017-03-17 17:43:01 UTC (14 hours 23 mins) | [23:19] |
| lobbesbot: | AUCTION # 47: 20 CDS q 20254 Opening: 405.08k Highest Bid: 725k Ending: 2017-03-17 17:50:16 UTC (14 hours 30 mins) | [23:19] |
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