| diana_coman: | !~calc 22*0.03*60 | [08:56] |
| jhvh1: | diana_coman: 22*0.03*60 = 39.599999999999994 | [08:56] |
| diana_coman: | !~calc 22*0.03*60+18*2.01 | [08:56] |
| jhvh1: | diana_coman: 22*0.03*60+18*2.01 = 75.77999999999999 | [08:56] |
| diana_coman: | !~calc 6*180*0.31 | [08:56] |
| jhvh1: | diana_coman: 6*180*0.31 = 334.8 | [08:56] |
| diana_coman: | the above being for a cft run: input 22 cdg q3 + bp 201q -> 6 cft 31q | [08:58] |
| diana_coman: | which means that low q grass is for me waaay more profitable made into cft than sold at anything less than some ...700\% | [08:59] |
| diana_coman: | !~calc 22*0.03*60*7+18*2.01 | [09:00] |
| jhvh1: | diana_coman: 22*0.03*60*7+18*2.01 = 313.37999999999994 | [09:00] |
| diana_coman: | !~calc 22*0.03*60*8+18*2.01 | [09:00] |
| jhvh1: | diana_coman: 22*0.03*60*8+18*2.01 = 352.97999999999996 | [09:00] |
| diana_coman: | more like 800\% for good measure, lol | [09:00] |
| diana_coman: | !~calc 22*0.03*60*7.5+18*2.01 | [09:00] |
| jhvh1: | diana_coman: 22*0.03*60*7.5+18*2.01 = 333.17999999999995 | [09:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron can i take delivery of your sentiments ?\ | [09:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman hey, cft's not bad to make anyway. | [09:19] |
| diana_coman: | certainly not bad; I was just a bit surprised though at the implied price I should charge if I were to sell any grass; on the other hand it quite makes sense given the very expensive things (high markup) I need to build a grass ord (which gives me that q3 grass but at least in large quantities) | [09:20] |
| diana_coman: | I think minerals really will jump in price; I suspect atm prices are not really picking up mainly because of existing stocks rather than anything else | [09:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | prolly. | [09:23] |
| diana_coman: | in other pleasant observations foxy made already 2.3k of those cft q31 so that's 2.3k in half an hour; must be industrialisation! | [09:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | so actually faster than used to ? | [09:34] |
| diana_coman: | for sure; I don't have the actual numbers, but as far as I remember it would take Foxy about 7 seconds to make 1 single cft so that means about 250 cft /half an hour, quite the jump there | [09:35] |
| diana_coman: | granted, it did not matter what q cft they were - as far as I noticed this is now VERY quick, but higher q cft is slower to make | [09:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | i recall doing cft in 6 seconds, so 550-600 an hour myself. | [09:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | but yeah, bundle q didn't matter | [09:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | thinking about it, pretty logical, if you're working with shitty materials to make shitty products you'll hurry it up. | [09:42] |
| danielpbarron: | mircea_popescu, ya | [09:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | here danielpbarron | [09:49] |
| danielpbarron: | ty | [09:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | ty | [09:49] |
| danielpbarron: | !~calc (22*0.03*60)/180 | [09:53] |
| jhvh1: | danielpbarron: (22*0.03*60)/180 = 0.21999999999999997 | [09:53] |
| danielpbarron: | !~calc 0.31*6*180 - 0.22*180 - 2.01*18 | [09:54] |
| jhvh1: | danielpbarron: 0.31*6*180 - 0.22*180 - 2.01*18 = 259.0199999999999 | [09:54] |
| danielpbarron: | !~calc ((2300/6)*2)*259*24*30 | [09:56] |
| jhvh1: | danielpbarron: ((2300/6)*2)*259*24*30 = 142968000 | [09:56] |
| danielpbarron: | !~calc ((2300/6)*2)*259*24*30*0.00000001 | [09:56] |
| jhvh1: | danielpbarron: ((2300/6)*2)*259*24*30*0.00000001 = 1.42968 | [09:56] |
| danielpbarron: | crazy | [09:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm ? | [09:58] |
| danielpbarron: | foxy's monthly profit making cft | [09:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | how do you figure that lol ? with 700\% cft ? | [09:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | cdg i man | [09:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | mean* | [09:59] |
| danielpbarron: | asuming all base values | [09:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc (2300 * .31 * 180 - 6900 * .3 * 60 - 100 * 18) * 2 * 24 * 30 | [10:07] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: (2300 * .31 * 180 - 6900 * .3 * 60 - 100 * 18) * 2 * 24 * 30 = 3369600 | [10:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh | [10:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc (2300 * .31 * 180 - 6900 * .03 * 60 - 100 * 18) * 2 * 24 * 30 | [10:07] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: (2300 * .31 * 180 - 6900 * .03 * 60 - 100 * 18) * 2 * 24 * 30 = 164332800 | [10:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron maybe even 164mn. | [10:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | of course getting bps and grass at bv is an impossible dream, but still | [10:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc (2300 * .31 * 180 * 2 - 6900 * .03 * 60 * 5- 100 * 18 * 10) * 2 * 24 * 30 | [10:09] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: (2300 * .31 * 180 * 2 - 6900 * .03 * 60 * 5- 100 * 18 * 10) * 2 * 24 * 30 = 254275200 | [10:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc (2300 * .31 * 180 * 1.5 - 6900 * .03 * 60 * 8 - 100 * 18 * 12) * 2 * 24 * 30 | [10:09] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: (2300 * .31 * 180 * 1.5 - 6900 * .03 * 60 * 8 - 100 * 18 * 12) * 2 * 24 * 30 = 103032000 | [10:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc (2300 * .31 * 180 * 1.15 - 6900 * .03 * 60 * 7 - 100 * 18 * 10) * 2 * 24 * 30 | [10:09] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: (2300 * .31 * 180 * 1.15 - 6900 * .03 * 60 * 7 - 100 * 18 * 10) * 2 * 24 * 30 = 61417440 | [10:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | basically cft can go for 115\%, and even paying 1k\% for cft bps and 700\% for grass she'd still clear 60mn / month. | [10:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc (2300 * .31 * 180 * 1.15 - 6900 * .03 * 60 * 7 - 100 * 18 * 20) * 2 * 24 * 30 | [10:11] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: (2300 * .31 * 180 * 1.15 - 6900 * .03 * 60 * 7 - 100 * 18 * 20) * 2 * 24 * 30 = 35497440 | [10:11] |
| diana_coman: | if only there was a steady supply of grass basically; the funny thing being that it certainly takes foxy longer to get the grass than to process it basically; so in this sense miners are again in even higher demand than they were, I would say | [10:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah eulora suddenly looks like miner's paradise | [10:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | btw is foxy still broken ? | [10:22] |
| diana_coman: | broken? | [10:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | i recall some issue with mining | [10:23] |
| diana_coman: | ah, you mean foxybot, lolz | [10:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol yeah | [10:23] |
| diana_coman: | well, it's perhaps even more broken depending on your point of view, lol | [10:23] |
| danielpbarron: | yes it is ~broken | [10:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | you hear that mod6 ? it's miner time! | [10:23] |
| danielpbarron: | explore bot needs to have some craft-bot functionality -- like reading a blueprint | [10:24] |
| diana_coman: | but myeah, I'd say it needs an update to 1. use bundles if available 2. mix q automagically 3. actually READ enums and use cft/lbn accordingly | [10:24] |
| diana_coman: | at the very least | [10:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | of course technically it is there already | [10:24] |
| diana_coman: | it is | [10:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | basically needs code transplant to mine like it crafts | [10:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | what are you doing this week danielpbarron ? | [10:25] |
| diana_coman: | aha | [10:25] |
| danielpbarron: | lol | [10:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [10:25] |
| danielpbarron: | i'll see what i can do | [10:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | fix the bot all nice, ima give you a 1mn durability chetty stick. | [10:26] |
| danielpbarron: | !~calc 3.55*78*1000 - 7.00*21005 - 6.01*2100 - 2351 | [16:00] |
| jhvh1: | danielpbarron: 3.55*78*1000 - 7.00*21005 - 6.01*2100 - 2351 = 114893 | [16:00] |
| Birdman: | !~calc 454*.01-.01*(79*2+59) | [17:59] |
| jhvh1: | Birdman: 454*.01-.01*(79*2+59) = 2.37 | [17:59] |
| Birdman: | !~calc 454*.01-.01*(79+59) | [17:59] |
| jhvh1: | Birdman: 454*.01-.01*(79+59) = 3.16 | [17:59] |
| danielpbarron: | what does that mean? you get 454 srs per click? | [18:01] |
| Birdman: | profit per bundle | [18:01] |
| danielpbarron: | oh just in rounding | [18:01] |
| Birdman: | !~calc .01*250-.01*(88+79) | [18:01] |
| jhvh1: | Birdman: .01*250-.01*(88+79) = 0.8300000000000001 | [18:01] |
| danielpbarron: | shouldn't it be 2*88? | [18:02] |
| Birdman: | profit is best when using min ingreds if q1 is being made | [18:02] |
| danielpbarron: | your ibs blueprint says 1 of each? | [18:03] |
| Birdman: | ya | [18:03] |
| danielpbarron: | isn't it 255? | [18:04] |
| Birdman: | !~calc 4466*.01-.01*(44*58) | [18:04] |
| jhvh1: | Birdman: 4466*.01-.01*(44*58) = 19.140000000000004 | [18:04] |
| Birdman: | im going by the eulorum bvs | [18:05] |
| danielpbarron: | where is that? | [18:05] |
| danielpbarron: | http://www.eulorum.org/User_talk:Danielpbarron | [18:05] |
| Birdman: | yeah | [18:05] |
| danielpbarron: | ibs is 255 | [18:05] |
| Birdman: | ah, so it is | [18:06] |
| Birdman: | !~calc .01*255-.01*(88+79) | [18:06] |
| jhvh1: | Birdman: .01*255-.01*(88+79) = 0.8800000000000003 | [18:06] |
| Birdman: | so ppb is probably the best to make | [18:06] |
| danielpbarron: | !~calc 9999*0.88 | [18:06] |
| jhvh1: | danielpbarron: 9999*0.88 = 8799.12 | [18:06] |
| danielpbarron: | !~calc 19.14*9999 | [18:07] |
| Birdman: | probs shouldnt have sold you all those q1 sb | [18:07] |
| jhvh1: | danielpbarron: 19.14*9999 = 191380.86000000002 | [18:07] |
| Birdman: | cant gather right now either | [18:07] |
| Birdman: | seems the combination of terrible tinkering and great gathering and building is pretty profitable | [18:09] |
| Birdman: | i wonder how little sb someone unskilled entirely uses | [18:09] |
| danielpbarron: | i'll have one of the noobs process those branches next i see one | [18:10] |
| Birdman: | plus with a macro set up properly i could make a bundle every 1.5 sec | [18:10] |
| Birdman: | i suspect the real money is in the tinkering of the q1 bundles | [18:11] |
| danielpbarron: | nah | [18:11] |
| Birdman: | assuming you can get a matching cheap bp | [18:11] |
| danielpbarron: | well yeah | [18:11] |
| Birdman: | how many ppb do you make, over 4? | [18:11] |
| danielpbarron: | idk | [18:11] |
| danielpbarron: | it was 4 last i tinkered | [18:11] |
| danielpbarron: | and i have low q ppb blueprints | [18:12] |
| Birdman: | 4466*4*.01-4460*.01*2 | [18:12] |
| Birdman: | !~calc 4466*4*.01-4460*.02 | [18:13] |
| jhvh1: | Birdman: 4466*4*.01-4460*.02 = 89.44000000000001 | [18:13] |
| Birdman: | profit per click in bv with 10x on bp cost | [18:13] |
| danielpbarron: | my output wouldn't be 1 q | [18:13] |
| Birdman: | even better | [18:13] |
| Birdman: | !~calc (4466*4*.01-4460*.02)/4460*.02 | [18:20] |
| jhvh1: | Birdman: (4466*4*.01-4460*.02)/4460*.02 = 4.0107623318385655E-4 | [18:20] |
| Birdman: | 400 | [18:20] |
| Birdman: | ah, 400\% on q1 output | [18:20] |
| Birdman: | so say you make q5 | [18:21] |
| Birdman: | 2000\% | [18:21] |
| Birdman: | !~calc 4466*.01-.01*(44*58)/4466*.01 | [18:46] |
| jhvh1: | Birdman: 4466*.01-.01*(44*58)/4466*.01 = 44.65994285714286 | [18:46] |
| Birdman: | !~calc 4466*.01-.01*(44*58) | [18:46] |
| jhvh1: | Birdman: 4466*.01-.01*(44*58) = 19.140000000000004 | [18:46] |
| Birdman: | 19/.01*58*44 | [18:47] |
| Birdman: | !~calc 19/.01*58*44 | [18:47] |
| jhvh1: | Birdman: 19/.01*58*44 = 4848800 | [18:47] |
| Birdman: | !~calc 19/(.01*58*44) | [18:47] |
| jhvh1: | Birdman: 19/(.01*58*44) = 0.7445141065830722 | [18:47] |
| Birdman: | !~calc (.01*58*44)/19 | [18:47] |
| jhvh1: | Birdman: (.01*58*44)/19 = 1.343157894736842 | [18:47] |
| Birdman: | probably cant get sb that cheap in reality | [18:48] |
| Birdman: | but close, and with auctioning the bundles im sure there's good money | [18:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | trying a q250 ord bundle. | [19:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | very curious nao | [19:06] |
| Birdman: | ive seen q1 and q3 come from electron bundles so far | [19:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | q5, like 2.7k | [19:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc 2723 * 141 * .05 | [19:43] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: 2723 * 141 * .05 = 19197.15 | [19:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | not terrible i guess | [19:43] |
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