#eulora Logs for 20 Feb 2017



February 20th, 2017 by Diana Coman
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 19 has ENDED: one stack cft bps q 194 SOLD to diana_coman for 3.5mn coppers. Attn: mircea_popescu [00:15]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 20: one stack cft bps q 200 Opening: 3.5mn Highest Bid: 3.5mn Ending: 2017-02-20 07:15:35 UTC (1 hours 57 mins) [00:17]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 21: one stack cft bps q 201 Opening: 3.5mn Highest Bid: 3.5mn Ending: 2017-02-20 09:15:41 UTC (3 hours 57 mins) [00:17]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 22: one stack ibs bps q 205 Opening: 5mn Highest Bid: No bids Ending: 2017-02-20 06:32:10 UTC (1 hours 14 mins) [00:17]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 24: one stack srs bps q 156 Opening: 7mn Highest Bid: No bids Ending: 2017-02-20 05:34:02 UTC (0 hours 16 mins) [00:17]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 25: 200 inconsequential sacrifice tokens q100 Opening: 90mn Highest Bid: No bids Ending: 2017-02-21 02:46:38 UTC (21 hours 28 mins) [00:17]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 24 has ENDED: No Sale. Attn: mircea_popescu [00:34]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 20: one stack cft bps q 200 Opening: 3.5mn Highest Bid: 3.5mn Ending: 2017-02-20 07:15:35 UTC (0 hours 57 mins) [01:17]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 21: one stack cft bps q 201 Opening: 3.5mn Highest Bid: 3.5mn Ending: 2017-02-20 09:15:41 UTC (2 hours 57 mins) [01:17]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 22: one stack ibs bps q 205 Opening: 5mn Highest Bid: No bids Ending: 2017-02-20 06:32:10 UTC (0 hours 14 mins) [01:17]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 25: 200 inconsequential sacrifice tokens q100 Opening: 90mn Highest Bid: No bids Ending: 2017-02-21 02:46:38 UTC (20 hours 28 mins) [01:17]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 22 has ENDED: No Sale. Attn: mircea_popescu [01:32]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 20 has ENDED: one stack cft bps q 200 SOLD to Birdman for 3.5mn coppers. Attn: mircea_popescu [02:16]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 21: one stack cft bps q 201 Opening: 3.5mn Highest Bid: 3.5mn Ending: 2017-02-20 09:15:41 UTC (1 hours 57 mins) [02:17]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 25: 200 inconsequential sacrifice tokens q100 Opening: 90mn Highest Bid: No bids Ending: 2017-02-21 02:46:38 UTC (19 hours 28 mins) [02:17]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 21: one stack cft bps q 201 Opening: 3.5mn Highest Bid: 3.5mn Ending: 2017-02-20 09:15:41 UTC (0 hours 57 mins) [03:17]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 25: 200 inconsequential sacrifice tokens q100 Opening: 90mn Highest Bid: No bids Ending: 2017-02-21 02:46:38 UTC (18 hours 28 mins) [03:17]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 21 has ENDED: one stack cft bps q 201 SOLD to diana_coman for 3.5mn coppers. Attn: mircea_popescu [04:16]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 25: 200 inconsequential sacrifice tokens q100 Opening: 90mn Highest Bid: No bids Ending: 2017-02-21 02:46:38 UTC (17 hours 28 mins) [04:17]
diana_coman: 10160q bundle for a small nt claim - this will take a while [05:04]
diana_coman: !~calc 80*180*1.27 [05:05]
jhvh1: diana_coman: 80*180*1.27 = 18288 [05:05]
diana_coman: and I got... 38 nt 151q wtf [05:13]
diana_coman: !~ calc 38*1.51*87 [05:14]
jhvh1: diana_coman: 38*1.51*87 = 4992.06 [05:14]
diana_coman: about a third of what I put in, without even counting getting the claim in first place, ugh [05:15]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 25: 200 inconsequential sacrifice tokens q100 Opening: 90mn Highest Bid: No bids Ending: 2017-02-21 02:46:38 UTC (16 hours 28 mins) [05:17]
diana_coman: !~calc 17*1.41*87/(22*180*1.27) [05:21]
jhvh1: diana_coman: 17*1.41*87/(22*180*1.27) = 0.4146564065855404 [05:21]
diana_coman: amazing [05:21]
diana_coman: !~calc 1976*0.17*87 [06:11]
jhvh1: diana_coman: 1976*0.17*87 = 29225.04 [06:11]
diana_coman: foxy got almost 30k from an ord (nt) at q...17 (with spirover's bundle, so 250q); for one thing high skill does not mean anymore that one can't get high q [06:12]
diana_coman: I meant: that one can't get LOW q [06:12]
diana_coman: still, the bundle was about 36k at bv so still a loss no matter how one looks at it [06:13]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 25: 200 inconsequential sacrifice tokens q100 Opening: 90mn Highest Bid: No bids Ending: 2017-02-21 02:46:38 UTC (15 hours 28 mins) [06:17]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 25: 200 inconsequential sacrifice tokens q100 Opening: 90mn Highest Bid: No bids Ending: 2017-02-21 02:46:38 UTC (14 hours 28 mins) [07:17]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 25: 200 inconsequential sacrifice tokens q100 Opening: 90mn Highest Bid: No bids Ending: 2017-02-21 02:46:38 UTC (13 hours 28 mins) [08:17]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman so you put in 1 b undle worth like 36k and got out almost 30k q 17 ? [08:31]
diana_coman: myeah, on the ord; the smalls were worse; tinies even more so [08:33]
mircea_popescu: that particular result is pretty epic neh ? [08:33]
mircea_popescu: i mean, you'd have paid a noob 15\% to do ~the same for you [08:34]
diana_coman: the difference being that paying the noob meant I had the choice to get that q or some saner q; now not so sure about the choice for one thing [08:34]
mircea_popescu: well i guess if you make bundle give to noob you prolly get high q, ironically [08:35]
mircea_popescu: anyway, i thought low q mats were actually preferable for higher level crafter, broadly speaking. [08:38]
diana_coman: gathering/building was never quite the same thing as crafting [08:40]
mircea_popescu: this is true [08:44]
diana_coman: hanbot, how's it going with blender? got it to export? [08:56]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 25: 200 inconsequential sacrifice tokens q100 Opening: 90mn Highest Bid: No bids Ending: 2017-02-21 02:46:38 UTC (12 hours 28 mins) [09:17]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 25: 200 inconsequential sacrifice tokens q100 Opening: 90mn Highest Bid: No bids Ending: 2017-02-21 02:46:38 UTC (11 hours 28 mins) [10:17]
hanbot: diana_coman mebbe you missed my last lines on that score, lemme find em [10:18]
hanbot: http://logs.minigame.bz/2017-02-17.log.html#t19:26:59 thar [10:19]
lobbesbot: Logged on 2017-02-17 19:26:59: <hanbot> diana_coman ah, nice spot. the addon's path selector fucks up everything i've tried (including your suggestion) with extra slashes etc, and produces same error. if i type in path manually the <unknown location>:-1 bit at the end remains, however the preceding permission denied line is replaced with "AttributeError: 'Material' object has no attribute 'csMatRef'". fwiw there's a single material and texture, no frill [10:19]
diana_coman: ah, I missed that indeed among all the auction things; will have a look [10:20]
mircea_popescu: so, diana_coman Birdman picking up winnings ? [10:24]
diana_coman: as soon as this ord build is done, mircea_popescu [10:25]
mircea_popescu: i have nfi what that means these days. half hour ? [10:26]
diana_coman: well, it's been going on already for about 4 hours but it has only a bit remaining - so I'd say half hour is a reasonable estimate, yes [10:26]
mircea_popescu: kk [10:26]
mircea_popescu: whoa nelly multi-hour ords ? [10:26]
diana_coman: myeah; and if it gives me again some q 17 things.... [10:26]
diana_coman: in fairness this bundle here is 2326q [10:27]
diana_coman: a far cry from spirover's 250q [10:27]
mircea_popescu: o [10:27]
mircea_popescu: i wonder if it's 2326/250 times longer [10:27]
diana_coman: no idea, but with those new enums there clearly is an even higher demand for resources of all sorts: this bundle ate about 140 dcs and 140 eps [10:28]
diana_coman: for ONE bundle [10:28]
diana_coman: so I got 7 pacademia nuts q877 [10:38]
diana_coman: !~calc 7*8.77*1484 [10:39]
jhvh1: diana_coman: 7*8.77*1484 = 91102.76 [10:39]
diana_coman: the bundle being ~335k bv [10:39]
diana_coman: !~calc 91102/335000 [10:40]
jhvh1: diana_coman: 91102/335000 = 0.2719462686567164 [10:40]
diana_coman: that would make pacademia nut carry about 400\% markup at least, hm [10:42]
diana_coman: anyways, mircea_popescu I'm in town for pickup [10:42]
mircea_popescu: nao [10:57]
mircea_popescu: wowza, q > 800 ? [10:58]
mircea_popescu: wait, also ord as the other one ? what was it, the other bundle was from electron ? [10:58]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman [10:58]
shinohai: mircea_popescu ... I have the order almost complete but ran out of monies doing the pacademia nut bundles (229 short of 900) [10:59]
mircea_popescu: shinohai how the hell is that possibru ?! [10:59]
mircea_popescu: oh cuz i only gave you 200mn lemme see here. [11:00]
shinohai: shinohai would like to know himself since he hasnt purchased anything besides bundles [11:00]
mircea_popescu: ok listen, let me settle this with diana_coman and i'll be right over and we figure it out. you be around for half hour ? [11:00]
shinohai: yeah ill be by Electron [11:01]
mircea_popescu: works i'll ping ye [11:01]
shinohai: no worries just ping me [11:01]
mircea_popescu: ok here we go shinohai [11:02]
mircea_popescu: so gimme that table lessee what you got so far. [11:02]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, ? [11:03]
mircea_popescu: gah. meanwhile i went up the hill. ok, coming back to town. [11:04]
mircea_popescu: this is turning into a spicy adventure [11:05]
diana_coman: sorry; I'll wait here by the heina [11:05]
mircea_popescu: 30s [11:05]
shinohai: >.> [11:05]
mircea_popescu: trade diana_coman [11:06]
mircea_popescu: shinohai sit put ill be there in ~2mins [11:06]
diana_coman: and yes, the pacademia nut was ord just like the nt one; however the nt bundle was spirover's so 250q iirc while the pacademia bundle was foxy's so 2326q [11:06]
shinohai: kk\ [11:06]
mircea_popescu: 201 and 194 was it ? [11:06]
diana_coman: was it 7 total? [11:06]
mircea_popescu: yep. ty [11:06]
diana_coman: thanks! [11:06]
mircea_popescu: ok here wee go shinohai [11:08]
shinohai: Should find all neatly stacked, minust the 229 opn [11:08]
mircea_popescu: !~calc 800 * 48583 + 700 * 48549 + 750 * 48526 + 400 * 48574 + 800 * 48468 + 500 * 48459 + 671 * 48459 [11:10]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 800 * 48583 + 700 * 48549 + 750 * 48526 + 400 * 48574 + 800 * 48468 + 500 * 48459 + 671 * 48459 = 224194689 [11:10]
mircea_popescu: hum, i thought i only gave you 200mn ? [11:10]
mircea_popescu: is going through teh logs [11:10]
mircea_popescu: (10:05:53) >Mircea gave Shinoa 235500000 Copper. [11:11]
mircea_popescu: so do you have 10mn left ? [11:11]
shinohai: nope, I must have lost some during my xmacro fails [11:13]
mircea_popescu: did you like buy other stuff ? [11:14]
shinohai: Nope, just bought bundles ... [11:15]
mircea_popescu: well but i mean... what do you mean lost some ? [11:15]
mircea_popescu: can't throw it on the ground [11:15]
shinohai: I did too, but if it is in logs [11:15]
shinohai: searches his [11:15]
diana_coman: shinohai, spirover buys back at lower markup than he sells; so if you bought other bundles and sold them back to him, than you certainly lost money there [11:16]
diana_coman: then, ugh [11:16]
shinohai: :/ [11:17]
mircea_popescu: well shit you did that ?! [11:17]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 25: 200 inconsequential sacrifice tokens q100 Opening: 90mn Highest Bid: No bids Ending: 2017-02-21 02:46:38 UTC (10 hours 28 mins) [11:17]
shinohai: Appears so ... foolishly decided to try daniel's xmacro suggestion when I should have manually clicked all [11:19]
mircea_popescu: well look in the logs. i for isntance have [11:21]
mircea_popescu: (10:49:49) >You bought 2 Ordinary Rotten Fruit Bundle for 9 Denarius, 70 Argents and 52 Coppers a total of 97052 Coppers. [11:21]
mircea_popescu: so grep the chat.log for "You sold" see what it says ? [11:21]
diana_coman: hmmm, it seems type of claim influences output q as well: on the small claim foxy put in bundle q 10160 and got 151q only; while on the ord she put in bundle 2326q but got 877q [11:22]
mircea_popescu: q 10k holy hell [11:23]
diana_coman: myeah, unfortunately that was IN , not out ,lol [11:24]
mircea_popescu: hehe [11:24]
diana_coman: 10k in and then 151 out, oh the joy and all that [11:24]
mircea_popescu: i wonder if they can be coaxed into spitting out 10k quality. [11:24]
diana_coman: I'm sure it is both possible and most likely unattainable currently - eulora speciality :P [11:25]
mircea_popescu: lol [11:25]
shinohai: (23:52:25) >You bought 1 Sizable Flotsam Bundle for 43 BITCents, 67 Denarius, 84 Argents and 41 Coppers a total of 43678441 Coppers. [11:52]
shinohai: (23:52:38) >You sold 1 Standard Sizable Flotsam Bundle for 32 BITCents, 35 Denarius and 44 Argents a total of 32354400 Coppers. [11:52]
shinohai: GOD FUCKING DAMMIT [11:52]
mircea_popescu: o holy shit [11:52]
mircea_popescu: one hit, 10mn huh. [11:52]
mircea_popescu: the hundred dollar blunder. [11:53]
mircea_popescu: anyway listen shinohai i'm not going to pay you anything, but im also not gonna hold you to it. just remember to pay attention in the future, eulora ain't kiddin'. [11:53]
shinohai: "Use xmacros they said, it'll save you time and tedium they said" [11:54]
shinohai: But ... thanks for understanding, indeed a blunder of epic proportions. [11:55]
mircea_popescu: in the immortal words of pesto the pigeon, "it'd work if squit knew how to do it right!" [11:55]
diana_coman: 171520 vertices omg hanbot [12:03]
danielpbarron: did the script keep going after something sold out and sizeables were the next thing down?? [12:03]
diana_coman: anyways, the error is indeed nothing to do with path per se anymore; it's the deeper trouble with exporting animations, will have to see about a working exporter basically [12:04]
danielpbarron: my craft is past half way [12:05]
danielpbarron: 79.5 hours so far [12:05]
diana_coman: do you reckon it's done before Wed night danielpbarron ? [12:05]
diana_coman: wow [12:05]
danielpbarron: it's gonna be close [12:05]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 25: 200 inconsequential sacrifice tokens q100 Opening: 90mn Highest Bid: No bids Ending: 2017-02-21 02:46:38 UTC (9 hours 28 mins) [12:17]
hanbot: diana_coman fwiw i see 235 vertices...shouldn't be anywhere near as high as 171520 lol [12:24]
hanbot: thanks for looking into this junk! [12:24]
diana_coman: hanbot, cs makes more for sure, yeah; still, that's clearly some abuse there; most probably there will have to be some sane exporter made [12:25]
mircea_popescu: and so the nightmare begins. [12:25]
diana_coman: adding to the pile of not-yet-comprehensible-data-after-release: small pss claim; bundle q4964 (so half of that nt small claim of earlier); output q1054!! [12:36]
diana_coman: and foxy has way higher rank in sortage than in mining [12:36]
mircea_popescu: wait larger than the ord ? [12:36]
diana_coman: yep [12:36]
mircea_popescu: ahem [12:36]
diana_coman: mining and lj ranks are relatively close though [12:37]
diana_coman: now I'll get another similar claim and vary q of bundle; well, as similar as I can discern, ofc [12:37]
diana_coman: !~calc 12*266*10.54 [12:37]
mircea_popescu: yeah these don'[t sound too similar so far. [12:37]
jhvh1: diana_coman: 12*266*10.54 = 33643.68 [12:37]
diana_coman: so this small got me 33k output [12:38]
mircea_popescu: sweet. [12:38]
diana_coman: it was a cs small,hence why I said I can get something as similar as I can see [12:38]
diana_coman: or so I think, lol [12:38]
mircea_popescu: ah the other one was plain tool ? [12:38]
diana_coman: yes [12:38]
mircea_popescu: yeah cs smalls were always richer [12:39]
diana_coman: yes, but they did not use to give higher q [12:39]
mircea_popescu: tru [12:39]
diana_coman: apparently it's not really the type of claim, but the claim's actual value of sorts [12:39]
diana_coman: and anyways no cs to be had for 33k only I think [12:40]
mircea_popescu: well yes but cs doesn't only give smalls. [12:41]
diana_coman: or so one hopes, lol [12:42]
mircea_popescu: get 1000 cs, get a remark, the 999 smalls are then free, 33k each, you're a millionaire. [12:42]
mircea_popescu: oh that's right, we've not seen what it does yet huh [12:42]
diana_coman: get a remark on which you pay 5mn to build and get 3 out [12:42]
diana_coman: and see what millionaire you are [12:42]
mircea_popescu: dreamlionaire. [12:42]
diana_coman: aha [12:42]
mircea_popescu: still, 999 smalls worth 33k each is THIRTY THREE million [12:44]
mircea_popescu: so youcan afford to lose the 2 [12:44]
mircea_popescu: still be a millionaire. [12:44]
diana_coman: !~calc 80*180*1.46*999 [12:46]
jhvh1: diana_coman: 80*180*1.46*999 = 21002976 [12:46]
mircea_popescu: tananana [12:46]
diana_coman: !~calc 1000*60000 [12:46]
jhvh1: diana_coman: 1000*60000 = 60000000 [12:46]
diana_coman: you forgot those 80mn put in [12:46]
diana_coman: lol [12:46]
mircea_popescu: brb writing an o'reilly book on how to be a millionaire irl. [12:46]
mircea_popescu: TECH SECTOR UPWARDS CAREER MOVEMENT [12:46]
diana_coman: go go go [12:46]
diana_coman: live your dream, you CAN do it! [12:47]
mircea_popescu: i will ignore those sexist remakrs. [12:47]
diana_coman: hi hi [12:47]
mircea_popescu: !~report to hr [12:47]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Error: "report" is not a valid command. [12:47]
mircea_popescu: institutionalized systems of opression! [12:47]
diana_coman: lol [12:55]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 25: 200 inconsequential sacrifice tokens q100 Opening: 90mn Highest Bid: No bids Ending: 2017-02-21 02:46:38 UTC (8 hours 28 mins) [13:18]
Birdman: <mircea_popescu>so, diana_coman Birdman picking up winnings ? << im around whenever [14:13]
mircea_popescu: now works. [14:13]
mircea_popescu: Birdman ^ [14:14]
Birdman: comin [14:14]
mircea_popescu: ty [14:15]
Birdman: tank ya [14:15]
Birdman: danielpbarron you around? [14:16]
Birdman: between 1 and 2 cdg for these lol [14:16]
mircea_popescu: it asks you for 1 - 2 ? [14:17]
Birdman: whats it say for you mp, between 30-100 or somethin? [14:17]
Birdman: yes [14:17]
mircea_popescu: 25-30 [14:17]
Birdman: so i could craft a bunch with less grass but im sure its of terrible quality, gonna see now though [14:17]
mircea_popescu: maybe make me a coupla bundles too, ima click em see what comes out. [14:18]
Birdman: gotcha [14:19]
Birdman: left 4 bundles and 4 bps [14:22]
Birdman: two q179 grass is q119 cft bundle [14:23]
mircea_popescu: i dun need the bps though i got my own [14:23]
Birdman: which when i crafted gave me 1 q138 thread but [14:23]
Birdman: no prob [14:23]
mircea_popescu: also guarded [14:23]
Birdman: try now [14:23]
Birdman: seems to need me to be further away than before [14:24]
mircea_popescu: still o.I [14:24]
mircea_popescu: how about you traqde them to 1 [14:24]
mircea_popescu: to me [14:24]
Birdman: ya [14:24]
mircea_popescu: so bp 187 bundle 117 and i get cft... [14:25]
mircea_popescu: 9 q 62 [14:25]
Birdman: so i get 180*1.38 you get 180*9*.62 [14:26]
Birdman: like 5x more value i guess [14:26]
mircea_popescu: and with bp q 15 i get... 9 q 18 [14:26]
mircea_popescu: and NO numina. [14:26]
Birdman: thanks [14:27]
mircea_popescu: sure. [14:27]
Birdman: free master tinkering stuff [14:27]
mircea_popescu: !~calc 9 * 180 * .18 [14:27]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 9 * 180 * .18 = 291.59999999999997 [14:27]
mircea_popescu: !~calc 180 * 1.18 + 18 * .15 [14:27]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 180 * 1.18 + 18 * .15 = 215.09999999999997 [14:27]
mircea_popescu: this is actually profitable to do o.O [14:27]
mircea_popescu: let's see the other one. [14:28]
mircea_popescu: !~calc 180 * 1.18 + 18 * 1.87 [14:28]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 180 * 1.18 + 18 * 1.87 = 246.05999999999997 [14:28]
mircea_popescu: !~calc 9 * 180 * .62 [14:28]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 9 * 180 * .62 = 1004.4 [14:28]
mircea_popescu: whoa. [14:28]
Birdman: yeah thats crazy [14:29]
mircea_popescu: !~calc 18 * 1.87 * 10 [14:29]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 18 * 1.87 * 10 = 336.6 [14:29]
mircea_popescu: like 400 worth of profit there. [14:29]
mircea_popescu: can anyone make me a q 500ish bundle ? [14:30]
mircea_popescu: and that goes for everyone, hanbot mod6 please check what q cft bundles you can make ? [14:32]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman ^. can you get me some varied q cft bundles ? [14:41]
mircea_popescu: we're apparently living exciting times. [14:41]
diana_coman: lol, it did seem to me that crafting is again (if it even wasn't always) more easy to figure out/turn a profit on; though now I wonder if I should try very low q bundles in claims too [14:42]
mircea_popescu: well gotta try everything that's for sure. [14:42]
diana_coman: I certainly have some very low q grass anyway, so I should be able to make some various q bundles for cft [14:42]
mircea_popescu: but preliminary data above seems to suggest we're headed for a sort of industrialization. ie, very high mark-up minerals, low price and abundant products [14:43]
mircea_popescu: please do, le'ts see what comes out. [14:43]
mircea_popescu: if you can make them 100s or somesuch it'd be great. [14:43]
diana_coman: how many cdg do you see on a cft bp mircea_popescu ? [14:44]
mircea_popescu: i don't. [14:44]
mircea_popescu: but it's been 9 constantly. [14:45]
diana_coman: cdg = clump of dry grass, lol [14:45]
mircea_popescu: oh. 25-30 [14:45]
diana_coman: interesting; foxy sees 20-24 [14:45]
diana_coman: sorry for the claim through someone's table but I'd rather mix the bundles in something other than a table ; and something that does not decay would be better [14:48]
diana_coman: bwahahah, to start with: q 6 bundle [14:48]
Birdman: i usually use a worn toolkit to make bundles [14:52]
diana_coman: hm, I was afraid it would eat it, but I suppose it might just fail [14:52]
Birdman: idk if a BT craft would get eaten [14:53]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I have bundles: q6, q726, q940, q1446; apparently I had only a bit of low q grass left - I think I mixed up and made into cft the most of it; might get some more later given my results so far on smalls of nt and the like [14:55]
diana_coman: you around so I give you the table? [14:55]
mircea_popescu: ima trade them and give you more grass in 5 mins [14:57]
diana_coman: k, you need to pickup table as otherwise will mix; I'll prolly have to log out so you can pick it up [14:57]
mircea_popescu: hardcore guarding since update huh [14:57]
diana_coman: yeah, it'll be fixed this wed [14:58]
mircea_popescu: ok can logoff dia [14:58]
diana_coman: logged off [14:58]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman [14:58]
diana_coman: and my client goes: "BadWindow" [14:58]
diana_coman: this is a new one [14:58]
mircea_popescu: q6 bundle -> 9 cft q 14 [14:59]
mircea_popescu: holy shit. [14:59]
mircea_popescu: q 726 bundle.... wow the time differnetial is sensible [14:59]
mircea_popescu: like 3 sec vs 20 [14:59]
diana_coman: aha [15:00]
mircea_popescu: actually this is morel ike a minute. [15:00]
mircea_popescu: 9 cft qyaliuty... [15:00]
mircea_popescu: drumroll... [15:00]
mircea_popescu: 152! [15:00]
diana_coman: o.O [15:00]
diana_coman: you are clearly undercrafting there [15:00]
diana_coman: so yeah, positive no doubt, but still [15:01]
mircea_popescu: this is basically epic news for miners, i suspect every mineral just doubled in price [15:01]
diana_coman: well, that's good because otherwise gathering was dead basically from what I saw so far [15:01]
mircea_popescu: pay like 300\% for cs, get like 400\% for mats, works [15:01]
mircea_popescu: q 940 bundle makes.... [15:02]
diana_coman: yeah [15:02]
mircea_popescu: 9 cft q 173. [15:02]
mircea_popescu: hm. [15:02]
diana_coman: clearly slows down [15:02]
mircea_popescu: and finally 1446 bundlke... [15:02]
diana_coman: just need to find the sweet spot [15:02]
mircea_popescu: what grass'd you need to mix me a 400 and a 500 ? [15:03]
diana_coman: hm, not quite sure what is the bv if the cft bundle now - whether it stayed the same or what; I'd say 20 grass q60 if I'm not wrong [15:05]
diana_coman: for the 400 I meant [15:06]
diana_coman: 25 same q for 500 [15:07]
diana_coman: ugh, scratch that [15:07]
diana_coman: foxy can use only 24 [15:07]
diana_coman: so 20 @ 75q [15:08]
mircea_popescu: aite let this finish and ima look what i got [15:08]
mircea_popescu: ~2 mins [15:08]
diana_coman: k [15:08]
Birdman: !~calc 1.79*60*2 [15:10]
jhvh1: Birdman: 1.79*60*2 = 214.8 [15:10]
Birdman: !~calc 214.8/1.19 [15:10]
jhvh1: Birdman: 214.8/1.19 = 180.50420168067228 [15:10]
mircea_popescu: so 9 q 214 [15:10]
Birdman: thats the bv @q100 right [15:10]
diana_coman: !~calc 9*180*0.14/(0.06*3*60) [15:11]
jhvh1: diana_coman: 9*180*0.14/(0.06*3*60) = 21.000000000000004 [15:11]
diana_coman: !~calc 9*180*1.52/(7.26*3*60) [15:11]
jhvh1: diana_coman: 9*180*1.52/(7.26*3*60) = 1.884297520661157 [15:11]
diana_coman: hm [15:12]
diana_coman: !~calc 9*180*1.73/(9.4*3*60) [15:12]
jhvh1: diana_coman: 9*180*1.73/(9.4*3*60) = 1.656382978723404 [15:12]
diana_coman: !~calc 9*180*2.14/(14.46*3*60) [15:12]
jhvh1: diana_coman: 9*180*2.14/(14.46*3*60) = 1.3319502074688796 [15:12]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman all my grass is over 200 ;/ [15:13]
diana_coman: ahem, same with me, yeah [15:13]
mircea_popescu: Birdman you said it took 1-2 ? [15:13]
diana_coman: I had a few bits very low q hence I made those bundles for you [15:13]
Birdman: yes [15:13]
mircea_popescu: trade me please [15:14]
Birdman: who me? [15:14]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman your cft is in teh table. [15:14]
mircea_popescu: yeah [15:14]
diana_coman: well, won't be able to pick it up, lol [15:14]
mircea_popescu: ill log off in one sec. [15:14]
diana_coman: k [15:14]
mircea_popescu: though try, i didn't pick it up [15:15]
mircea_popescu: one bundle please Birdman [15:15]
diana_coman: nope, guarded; you crafted in it or put items in it [15:15]
mircea_popescu: ya i loggwed off [15:15]
diana_coman: done, thanks [15:15]
mircea_popescu: nono, ty! [15:16]
Birdman: q256 bundle [15:16]
mircea_popescu: works. brt [15:16]
diana_coman: foxy's off to stick the sticks and figure out those claims, lol [15:16]
mircea_popescu: enjoy [15:16]
mircea_popescu: re [15:17]
mircea_popescu: ady Birdman [15:17]
mircea_popescu: 9 q 90 [15:19]
mircea_popescu: so im pretty consistently getting 9 threads made per bp [15:19]
diana_coman: from what I saw foxy always got the same thing as long as undercrafting, yeah [15:20]
mircea_popescu: so basically, looking to buy grass q < 20 or else cft bundles q 5-600 [15:20]
diana_coman: in foxy's case it was 8 cft per bp iirc [15:21]
diana_coman: I guess that makes sense given the number of cdg each sees on the bp [15:21]
mircea_popescu: so im sloightyl;y bneetter than you [15:21]
diana_coman: well, you certainly are in tinkering, quite a lot than slightly better I would think, lol [15:21]
mircea_popescu: heh [15:22]
mircea_popescu: 8 to 9 [15:22]
mircea_popescu: o wow, so if you do some grass smalls you're gonna get q 17 diana_coman ? [15:35]
diana_coman: apparently yes, lol [15:35]
mircea_popescu: do that! [15:35]
mircea_popescu: A LOT. [15:35]
mircea_popescu: i will be auctioning the resulting cft starting at bv. [15:35]
diana_coman: well, the bv though is low compared to what I put in - so I have to figure out how much that grass will have to go for basically [15:36]
mircea_popescu: lemme know [15:36]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman apparently ben_vulpes is allured! mind setting out precisely what we want from the man ? [15:50]
ben_vulpes: allured and intrigued but also terrified, i read your blog diana_coman [15:51]
mircea_popescu: she's a great cto, i'd be terrified of working for anyone else. [15:51]
mircea_popescu: i read THEIR memos. [15:51]
diana_coman: ben_vulpes, on the bright side this whole thing does not touch planeshit, so there is that [15:53]
diana_coman: I'd say start by having a look at cal3d and what it expects as that's what your proggy needs to output [15:54]
diana_coman: then you'll need to get the hang of blender's python api [15:54]
mircea_popescu: that thing actually had a manual did it [15:54]
mircea_popescu: what were we frozen in, 2.67 ? [15:55]
diana_coman: yes, cal3d is leagues better than planeshit [15:55]
diana_coman: lemme check [15:55]
mircea_popescu: i mean re blender. cal3d iirc never updated. [15:55]
diana_coman: 2.66 [15:55]
mircea_popescu: we prolly should keep a cannonical packaged right-version on the site you know ? just link people. [15:55]
diana_coman: makes sense, yes [15:56]
diana_coman: I HAD actually made my own backups of blender too, lolz [15:56]
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes basically your first task would be : take hanbot 's files, write a python script that turns them into something cal3d digests. feel free to sing your wrath here too, there's bits and people people may be able tpo help with. [15:56]
mircea_popescu: bits and pieces* [15:57]
ben_vulpes: i will at the very least gaze into the void so described [15:57]
mircea_popescu: alrighty. [15:58]
thestringpuller: diana_coman: what did want me to do next? you said something about a 1.5 hour task i put into the bot and leave running? [15:59]
diana_coman: ben_vulpes, have a look at the xml files of eulora's client too as that another bit of the puzzle - you'll be able to find in there basically examples of what you need to generate -both for static meshes and for animated stuff [16:00]
diana_coman: thestringpuller, well, meanwhile I did what needed to be done [16:01]
diana_coman: compiling cs and eulora client should be relatively painless, there are the steps on the wiki http://www.eulorum.org/Eulora - if you want to be able to fully check and see them working [16:02]
thestringpuller: diana_coman: well if you need anything else lemme know. last day of vacay. [16:04]
ben_vulpes: diana_coman: aye aye [16:17]
diana_coman: aaand finally got the 2nd cs small to compare to first: same bundle q (4964), but... q is now 1075 (compared to 1054 on the other small) ; and got 2 pss (compared to 12 on the other one) [17:55]
diana_coman: !~calc 2*10.75*266 [17:55]
jhvh1: diana_coman: 2*10.75*266 = 5719 [17:55]
diana_coman: really? [17:55]
diana_coman: so a bit higher q for going from 33k down to not quite 6k [17:56]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, it seems as low q might anyway be a better idea or something, gotta digest this [17:57]
diana_coman: also: mining is now totally screwed if one gets different qualities from smalls with SAME Q bundle, ugh [17:58]
mircea_popescu: o wow, word [18:00]
danielpbarron: enter n-table dropping and/or on-the-fly mixing [18:00]
mircea_popescu: not even bottable anymore is it [18:00]
mircea_popescu: yeah bot will have to mix holy shit. [18:00]
danielpbarron: need a mixer anyway. stiching it to explore bot shouldn't be hard [18:01]
hanbot: re hanbot's files above: earlier tar was encrypted to diana, here's a bundle for ben_vulpes http://thewhet.net/han/blenderjunkbv.tar.asc [18:01]
mircea_popescu: cool. [18:01]
ben_vulpes: hanbot: gottit [18:06]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 25: 200 inconsequential sacrifice tokens q100 Opening: 90mn Highest Bid: No bids Ending: 2017-02-21 02:46:38 UTC (3 hours 25 mins) [18:21]
hanbot: <mircea_popescu> and that goes for everyone, please check what q cft bundles you can make ? << lend me a cft bp and i'll happily check, i's gots no spares [18:51]
mircea_popescu: trade me [18:54]
mircea_popescu: hanbot [18:54]
hanbot: lessee. wants 3 - 4 cdg [18:56]
mircea_popescu: o hey this should work then [18:56]
mircea_popescu: wanna do some bundles for me ? [18:56]
hanbot: q444 bundle with q333 cdg, highest i had. [18:57]
hanbot: an sure. [18:57]
Birdman: im also making bundles to have tinkered by someone better [19:10]
Birdman: just got done rather [19:10]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 25: 200 inconsequential sacrifice tokens q100 Opening: 90mn Highest Bid: No bids Ending: 2017-02-21 02:46:38 UTC (2 hours 28 mins) [19:18]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 25: 200 inconsequential sacrifice tokens q100 Opening: 90mn Highest Bid: No bids Ending: 2017-02-21 02:46:38 UTC (1 hours 28 mins) [20:18]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 25: 200 inconsequential sacrifice tokens q100 Opening: 90mn Highest Bid: No bids Ending: 2017-02-21 02:46:38 UTC (0 hours 28 mins) [21:18]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 25 has ENDED: No Sale. Attn: hanbot [21:47]
mircea_popescu: something tells me i'ma regret this [22:52]
mircea_popescu: but... no cash. [22:52]

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