| Birdman: | mircea_popescu just ping when you wanna meet for that bb | [02:09] |
| Birdman: | diana_coman will come pick those threads up \ danielpbarron i have your MS | [02:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | Birdman now works. | [02:20] |
| Birdman: | alright on the way | [02:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | im tablewalking to town myself | [02:21] |
| Birdman: | do you still have the sticks for sale as well? | [02:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | nope flat out | [02:21] |
| Birdman: | ah beat | [02:21] |
| Birdman: | 197 * 1.8 * 1.53 * 14995 | [02:24] |
| Birdman: | !~calc 197 * 1.8 * 1.53 * 14995 | [02:24] |
| jhvh1: | Birdman: 197 * 1.8 * 1.53 * 14995 = 8135357.3100000005 | [02:24] |
| Birdman: | !~calc 197 * 1.8 * 1.53 * 14995 - 8200000 | [02:24] |
| jhvh1: | Birdman: 197 * 1.8 * 1.53 * 14995 - 8200000 = -64642.68999999948 | [02:24] |
| Birdman: | ill give that as change if its easier | [02:25] |
| diana_coman: | Birdman, trade | [02:30] |
| Birdman: | diana_coman let me trade mircea_popescu first plix | [02:30] |
| diana_coman: | k | [02:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | 1sec | [02:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | rdy | [02:31] |
| Birdman: | thanks | [02:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | ty | [02:33] |
| Birdman: | ready diana_coman | [02:33] |
| Birdman: | thanks | [02:33] |
| diana_coman: | thanks | [02:33] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, can I haz lbn? | [02:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeh | [02:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | enjoy | [02:34] |
| diana_coman: | yum, thanks | [02:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc 11 * 2.37 | [02:35] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: 11 * 2.37 = 26.07 | [02:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | srsly went for ~300\%. nuts. | [02:35] |
| Birdman: | yeah pretty crazy | [02:35] |
| diana_coman: | Birdman, didn't you need lbn> | [02:35] |
| diana_coman: | ? | [02:35] |
| Birdman: | not immediately, but probably in a day or two will run out | [02:36] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, so why didn't you bid on those? | [02:36] |
| Birdman: | same reason as most people everywhere | [02:36] |
| diana_coman: | last got away with that when she was 5 | [02:38] |
| Birdman: | and even with proper funds, its not exactly easy to turn profits gathering these days | [02:38] |
| Birdman: | and my guy seems to not be a great builder, i've only popped once, every other time was forced from a remark and got less than bundle value out of it | [02:39] |
| diana_coman: | oh; hmm | [02:39] |
| diana_coman: | remark have values too, you know | [02:39] |
| Birdman: | and im not one to edit the bot to pick and choose which claims to build with whatever amounts of threads so im left to brute force to try and profit | [02:39] |
| Birdman: | officially ran out of room in my mining technique tab, had to mix a bunch | [02:42] |
| Birdman: | have stacks of all sorts of tiny enums lol lots of smalls too | [02:42] |
| Birdman: | iirc i bought a ton of tpt and wpl tiny enums when they were ingreds for supplications at 200 ecu per | [02:44] |
| Birdman: | which is like what, 1000\% | [02:44] |
| Birdman: | 10000\%* | [02:44] |
| diana_coman: | no idea how much they will go for when they are not coming out of claims | [02:45] |
| Birdman: | yeah probably not that much though, i'd imagine whatever craft makes them it'll be in some sort of bulk | [02:45] |
| Birdman: | they're 1ecu bv | [02:45] |
| diana_coman: | I know | [02:46] |
| diana_coman: | smalls are more though | [02:46] |
| Birdman: | yeah | [02:51] |
| Birdman: | i also have a bunch of ord enums from way back when i pretty much ran around the map using cs in odd places | [02:51] |
| Birdman: | these cs really pump out exp huh | [02:57] |
| Birdman: | cs smalls ** | [02:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | lmao not immediately | [02:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | i don't think i'm ever selling lbn again, for the record. | [02:59] |
| Birdman: | why not? | [02:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | shit comes out of maculature, that's made out of blueprints, that are 1k\% ; on TOP OF WHICH there's of course a wos click. leaving aside i paid a fortune for wos bps, they take expensive shit like 7 grubsilk. | [02:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | AND THEN there's the shredding bps. | [02:59] |
| Birdman: | yeah its crazy | [03:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | that was the last of the lbn. let people go make it one at a time out of keys, and then sell it for 300\%, what. | [03:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | see how long it takes to get a stack together, price it the hard way. | [03:00] |
| Birdman: | so whats the hold up then? wrong loots from the consids strangling all lines of bps? | [03:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | the who ? | [03:01] |
| Birdman: | considerations, not looting the bps | [03:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | ... | [03:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | 103 lbn = 1727 * 10 + 2500 * 10 + 172 * 10 | [03:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc (1727 * 10 + 2500 * 10 + 172 * 10) / 103 | [03:02] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: (1727 * 10 + 2500 * 10 + 172 * 10) / 103 = 427.08737864077665 | [03:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | what, ima pay 430 to make the lbn and sell it at 80 ? | [03:02] |
| Birdman: | well there is the loot or whatever, numina. | [03:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | mno. | [03:03] |
| Birdman: | but seems to me the problem is the whole 1k\% | [03:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | the numina happens if you overcraft, has no place in this discussion. | [03:03] |
| Birdman: | ah | [03:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | ie, in order to get numina i'd have to put EVEN MORE in. | [03:04] |
| Birdman: | right | [03:04] |
| Birdman: | well shit, this is a problem then | [03:04] |
| Birdman: | how to resolve, guys? | [03:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://logs.minigame.bz/2017-02-01.log.html#t15:21:09 | [03:04] |
| lobbesbot: | Logged on 2017-02-01 15:21:09: <mircea_popescu> ~ the esteemed audience is cordially invited not to act the asshole now that lbn is being offered and spuriously predent like it's abundant, only to spend the remainder of the year whining about wanting to buy lbn and how they're waiting for lbn. either buy it now or stfu ~ | [03:04] |
| Birdman: | heh | [03:05] |
| Birdman: | well i've put all my focus in this game into gathering and building, not much i plan to do about it | [03:07] |
| Birdman: | but i wont bitch later, promise! | [03:07] |
| diana_coman: | ha, 1k pss from an ord | [05:11] |
| diana_coman: | ugh, danielpbarron our claims or something got messed up | [08:43] |
| diana_coman: | congrats on finding an st spot in any case | [08:44] |
| danielpbarron: | :D | [08:46] |
| danielpbarron: | what do you mean messed up | [08:46] |
| diana_coman: | it failed to build my claim saying that it was yours - I think we DID end up so close together + jitter that your claim was closer to me than mine basically | [08:59] |
| diana_coman: | out of curiosity as I saw you were digging quite purposefully at that spot: did you spot the st there or how come? | [09:00] |
| danielpbarron: | saw your claims | [09:00] |
| diana_coman: | aha :) | [09:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron i got 12 aw q 217 and 4 q 300. want it ? | [10:53] |
| danielpbarron: | mircea_popescu, ya | [11:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | well meanwhile set up a mining run. ping you when back to town ? | [11:59] |
| danielpbarron: | k | [11:59] |
| danielpbarron: | also see if you have lapidary considerations | [12:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | a right. will do. | [12:01] |
| Birdman: | diana_coman are you selling threads at that same mark up in general? | [15:50] |
| Birdman: | danielpbarron ping when you're coming to town to get this MS | [15:50] |
| Birdman: | somehow managed to get two keys to stack | [15:57] |
| danielpbarron: | Birdman, ping | [16:19] |
| Birdman: | coming | [16:20] |
| Birdman: | tanks | [16:22] |
| danielpbarron: | ty | [16:22] |
| danielpbarron: | with a quick change, my explore bot can sort resources into 4 different catetories of thread quality: 1 thread, specified # of threads, 7 threads, and no threads (lock it to come back later with 7 even better threads) | [16:25] |
| shinohai: | cool stuff danielpbarron :D | [16:26] |
| danielpbarron: | what quality is stuff you build from ordinary claims, shinohai ? | [16:27] |
| Birdman: | danielpbarron can i buy some wos clicks from you | [16:27] |
| shinohai: | I'll have to look danielpbarron ... haven't been on in so long I forgot. But coincidentally just finished building client again this morning since reinstall | [16:29] |
| danielpbarron: | going forward with the bot, it'll have to pull data from a file or something that lists all the known resources, a tiny value, and a small value: tiny is 0,1,2 for don't build, build, and lock ; small is 0-7 where 0 is lock and the rest is number of threads to use. ordinaries (and above) should be built if a bundle is found in inventory, and locked otherwise. | [17:07] |
| diana_coman: | Birdman, some limited quantity, yes | [17:07] |
| Birdman: | what could i buy off ya now? | [17:07] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron, that sounds good actually | [17:07] |
| diana_coman: | I was thinking more along the lines of having 2 piles of cft and building accordingly low q res and high q res | [17:08] |
| danielpbarron: | i guess when stacking same item of different quality becomes easier to do in inventory | [17:08] |
| diana_coman: | Birdman, 1k cft | [17:09] |
| diana_coman: | 146q | [17:09] |
| Birdman: | 666666? | [17:09] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron, that should make it easier I guess; with craft-table it keeps them separate anyway | [17:09] |
| Birdman: | if you were to use two different cft piles you'd just run out of slots in the table | [17:10] |
| danielpbarron: | well it is possible now to do it without having them in the craft table, although the table is needed to put them in the initial position | [17:10] |
| danielpbarron: | yeah well the bot should also be made to use any number of tables to drag heavy stuff | [17:10] |
| diana_coman: | Birdman, yes | [17:11] |
| Birdman: | when works? | [17:11] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron, exactly: 2 tables | [17:11] |
| diana_coman: | I'm in town; will be around for ~5min | [17:11] |
| danielpbarron: | N tables | [17:11] |
| Birdman: | thatd be pretty cool | [17:11] |
| diana_coman: | N tables indeed | [17:12] |
| danielpbarron: | alternatively, the file could list resource,tiny value,small value ; and somehow figure out how to hit no more than that value on the bundle | [17:15] |
| danielpbarron: | and then you could fill your inventory with all sorts of different quality bits and threads | [17:15] |
| shinohai: | That would be awesum indeed | [17:15] |
| danielpbarron: | what is preferable, assuming both produce same quality bundle: 7 low quality threads or < 7 higher quality threads | [17:16] |
| danielpbarron: | i think the first case is preferable, and hope it is preferable because that would be much easier to code | [17:17] |
| danielpbarron: | or it could mix threads on the spot | [17:17] |
| danielpbarron: | figure out ideal mixing and number to use to hit exactly the specified value | [17:18] |
| Birdman: | trade now diana_coman ? | [17:18] |
| danielpbarron: | then fine tune the file as market conditions change | [17:18] |
| diana_coman: | 1 min Bir | [17:21] |
| Birdman: | i just left, we can do it later nbd | [17:21] |
| diana_coman: | oh well, tomorrow then | [17:22] |
| Birdman: | ya | [17:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron town ? | [20:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | so in case anyone is curious, i dud 2080 bh explores, ended up with : | [20:56] |
| Birdman: | drumroll | [20:59] |
| shinohai: | waits to see if ircd7 thwarts mircea_popescu 's presentation .... | [21:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | 80 tinies, a coupla smalls, like 100+ items | [21:04] |
| Birdman: | gathering level? | [21:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | slightly over 400 | [21:07] |
| danielpbarron: | mircea_popescu, ya | [21:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron heading back | [21:07] |
| Birdman: | oh wow was gonna guess high 200's | [21:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, it was less than a day, so reasonably productive imo | [21:07] |
| danielpbarron: | i have badass barehanding results | [21:07] |
| hanbot: | mircea_popescu any rares? | [21:07] |
| Birdman: | i dont think those are such great results, but its also a really small sample size | [21:07] |
| danielpbarron: | and i have 600+ gathering :D | [21:07] |
| hanbot: | yowza | [21:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | nice danielpbarron | [21:08] |
| danielpbarron: | i can map out things very well just barehanded | [21:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | no im just saying, it does actually pay better than fauceting. | [21:08] |
| danielpbarron: | leave it going on a spot, circle radius 25 for a day and i know what the spot is | [21:08] |
| danielpbarron: | oh defo | [21:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | just, noobs are poor for a reason, and that reason is all the woodchips in their brainbox. | [21:08] |
| danielpbarron: | people are retarded to not be at least running a barehanded bot all day | [21:08] |
| danielpbarron: | just collecting ords and ennums at the very least | [21:09] |
| Birdman: | yeah theres good money in barehanding | [21:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | MOTHERFUCKER ON A STICK | [21:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | well danielpbarron game decided to ignore my click, aw is now mixed. | [21:09] |
| Birdman: | and im still 3rd best in gathering woo hoo! | [21:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway come pikc it up | [21:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | sorry about that. | [21:11] |
| danielpbarron: | what do you want for this? | [21:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc 16 * 35880 * 2.37 * 2.52 | [21:11] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: 16 * 35880 * 2.37 * 2.52 = 3428635.3920000005 | [21:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | tyvm | [21:13] |
| danielpbarron: | ty | [21:13] |
| danielpbarron: | man these denominations are tedious | [21:13] |
| danielpbarron: | or is that a rich euloran problem | [21:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | i suspect. | [21:13] |
| danielpbarron: | btw, since you all were disconnecting when i first posted it, and since the official log doesn't seem to be up-to-date: http://danielpbarron.com/eulora-shop/ | [21:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | a nice | [21:15] |
| Birdman: | i'll buy threads at that price, whaddya got | [21:16] |
| danielpbarron: | some quality 91 | [21:16] |
| Birdman: | hm | [21:17] |
| Birdman: | how many do you have? | [21:17] |
| danielpbarron: | 871 | [21:17] |
| danielpbarron: | idk if i wanna make more of it, too much feelings produced | [21:18] |
| Birdman: | 250\% and im ok with it | [21:18] |
| danielpbarron: | nah | [21:18] |
| danielpbarron: | i should take cft off the board actually; not really well suited to make it right now | [21:18] |
| Birdman: | ya | [21:19] |
| Birdman: | i was expecting more than some 900 lol | [21:19] |
| Birdman: | i paid 253\% for more of foxy's better threads | [21:19] |
| danielpbarron: | well if you need potions i'm your guy | [21:19] |
| Birdman: | made 1mn off the rest of my cs smalls in beans using like 1/3 the threads | [21:19] |
| Birdman: | i could use some really low quality beetle brews | [21:20] |
| danielpbarron: | potions aren't for poor folk like yourself though | [21:20] |
| Birdman: | scoffs | [21:20] |
| danielpbarron: | now why would you need that? | [21:20] |
| Birdman: | wouldnt you like to know! | [21:20] |
| danielpbarron: | yes i would | [21:20] |
| danielpbarron: | sell me whatever blueprint you have that needs it | [21:20] |
| Birdman: | no | [21:20] |
| danielpbarron: | what is it, a skill book? | [21:21] |
| Birdman: | yes | [21:21] |
| Birdman: | and i have alot of the ingreds for em and bps but no bbb | [21:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | Birdman i might even have some, ima look next in town | [21:21] |
| danielpbarron: | i have bbb to ya | [21:22] |
| danielpbarron: | low quality | [21:22] |
| Birdman: | dutch auction ? | [21:22] |
| danielpbarron: | how many do you need, and is quality a concern? | [21:22] |
| Birdman: | lemme see fast | [21:23] |
| danielpbarron: | if a skillbook, i'd say yes you want high quality | [21:23] |
| Birdman: | why? | [21:23] |
| Birdman: | is the loot in blueprints or something | [21:23] |
| danielpbarron: | to loot more blueprints | [21:23] |
| danielpbarron: | i also have some around 100 quality | [21:24] |
| danielpbarron: | adds bbb to shop | [21:25] |
| danielpbarron: | i have more blueprints on this one :D | [21:25] |
| Birdman: | hm | [21:25] |
| Birdman: | to i want to over craft | [21:26] |
| Birdman: | q100 brews should do nice, what do you want for them | [21:26] |
| danielpbarron: | what else does the thing need? | [21:26] |
| danielpbarron: | if bbb is not much more than 1/2 the bundle value, you can boost it with the rest | [21:26] |
| danielpbarron: | if bbb is most of it, you'd probably want to focus more on that | [21:27] |
| Birdman: | i have the rest in pretty low quality, but theres a part i can use to really boost and the bbb is like the most expensive part afaik | [21:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | Birdman got q 135 | [21:27] |
| danielpbarron: | then yeah you want at least his 135, even that might not be high enough | [21:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | also got q 201 and that's about it | [21:27] |
| Birdman: | yeah but not if the price is disproportionate | [21:27] |
| danielpbarron: | idk why you'd want to even use a skill book you yourself are capable of making | [21:28] |
| danielpbarron: | 201 is more like it | [21:28] |
| Birdman: | so what do you guys want for this stuff? | [21:28] |
| Birdman: | i would need 20 of them | [21:28] |
| danielpbarron: | what disproportionate? we're talking about a skill book. how do you even have such a thing | [21:28] |
| Birdman: | lol | [21:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc 20 * 5355 * 2.01 * 3.2 | [21:28] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: 20 * 5355 * 2.01 * 3.2 = 688867.2 | [21:28] |
| Birdman: | and for the q132? or just 320\% in general? | [21:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | in general | [21:29] |
| Birdman: | i will pass for now i suppose | [21:35] |
| Birdman: | probably just a waste to make it for now | [21:35] |
| danielpbarron: | did anyone have a noob click a tinkerer consideration and end up with lots of low quality slag blueprints? | [21:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | yes. | [21:58] |
| danielpbarron: | wanna sell any? | [22:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | ima look next in town, this and lap cons. | [22:03] |
| danielpbarron: | :D | [22:03] |
| danielpbarron: | sets up to make a batch of 45 bbb | [23:50] |
| danielpbarron: | comes out quality 139 | [23:52] |
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