| mircea_popescu: | AUCTION : 50 imp cruddy hoes, 32489d each. opening at say 3mn. ETA 3jan 17:00 art | [00:15] |
| hanbot: | 3mn here mircea_popescu | [00:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol thatwas quick | [00:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | AUCTION : 50 imp cruddy hoes, 32489d each. 3mn heard hanbot . ETA 3jan 17:00 art | [00:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | correction : | [00:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | AUCTION : 50 imp cruddy hoes, 32849d each. 3mn heard hanbot . ETA 3jan 17:00 art | [00:16] |
| hanbot: | nice correction :) | [00:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | :p | [00:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah i guess that's like a coupla hits with each | [00:16] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, 4mn on imps | [03:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | AUCTION : 50 imp cruddy hoes, 32849d each. 4mn heard diana_coman . ETA 3jan 17:00 art | [09:49] |
| hanbot: | mircea_popescu, 4.5m on the hoes | [11:52] |
| shinohai: | Warms my heart to see such a thriving hoe auction | [11:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | it's easy out here for a pimp, when da hoes are going in a cinch | [11:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, given the demand i'm going to alter teh auction : | [11:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | AUCTION : 81 imp cruddy hoes, 32849d each. 4.5mn heard hanbot . ETA 3jan 17:00 art | [11:54] |
| hanbot: | lol that'll do | [11:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | i was gonna keep some fopr myself, but hey. can't argue with money. | [11:55] |
| diana_coman: | 5mn mircea_popescu | [11:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | AUCTION : 81 imp cruddy hoes, 32849d each. 5mn heard diana_coman . ETA 3jan 17:00 art | [11:58] |
| diana_coman: | also: I have 9766 grass q10 + 1050 grass ~330; would it work to sell it and buy back the resulting cft? | [12:00] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, ^ | [12:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman i'll take it and feed you 3k cft q 110, how about that ? | [12:02] |
| diana_coman: | works for now; any cft auction coming up? | [12:03] |
| diana_coman: | I'll get the grass out anyway | [12:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | possibly, yeah. you got any cft bps ? | [12:03] |
| diana_coman: | low q only | [12:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | that is not bad. | [12:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | if i can get a stack ima sell a stack. | [12:04] |
| diana_coman: | ok, let me go through bps for sale too then | [12:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | aite. | [12:04] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, available: 1 stack cft bp q7 - thing is that then I'd quite want to buy a stack of cft as well; 7910 ibs bp q41; 1 stack ltf bp q5; 1 stack io bp q7; 1 stack ppb bp q7; 2511 pcos bp q7; 473 alchemist's cheap gin bp q64; 1 stack harness bp q5 | [12:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman 1 stack of cft bps + 3 stacks of grass make 1 stack of cft. it's not possible, physically, to send out 1 stack of cft for each of those. | [12:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | now, equal value, i can cover, yes. equal count there is no way. | [12:16] |
| diana_coman: | not one stack for each, lol | [12:16] |
| diana_coman: | just the cft bps are basically a bottleneck here - because if I can't get cft for them than I need to keep them and make my own as otherwise I'll be out of cft by the looks of it | [12:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | for instance in the above, ~11k of grass for 3k cft, the grass is 200odd k bv ; the cft ~600k, that's a 2.x multiplying factor in value | [12:17] |
| diana_coman: | the rest is without any condition on it really | [12:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | so how abotu you know, i take the cft bps and the grass above and you can buy 5k cft for it ? | [12:17] |
| diana_coman: | hm; I think it works now because most grass there is low q; otherwise the tricky thing is that low q bps -> oc -> more cft as numbers | [12:22] |
| diana_coman: | anyways, grass+cft bps fine; do you want any of the other bps? | [12:22] |
| diana_coman: | the funny stuff there being of course that at face value it's actually worth to feed you grass I suppose, but not really bps which are far more of a pain to get anyway | [12:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | sure ill take all of me | [12:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, we'll have to balance this in a long term workable way because otherwise obviously the processes will grow cold | [12:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman ^ | [12:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, i've looked through it, it's not actually worth it imo to use say bp q 10 on grass q say 200 to get sentiments / extra grass. | [12:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | rather than do this and get say 1.5x as much q 50 grass, just use 5 instead of 7 threads when mining smalls with q 100 cft. the stack will go just as far. | [12:39] |
| diana_coman: | yes, I did not assume the grass and bps are used in combination precisely as given | [12:39] |
| diana_coman: | or at least I wouldn't use them as such, no; then again, my crafting skill is less than yours | [12:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah, but even so. i kept trying to model combos but nothing i tried makes sense. | [12:40] |
| diana_coman: | hm, you say it doesn't make sense to use for instance q10 bps with some 600q grass? | [12:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | i do. it is better to mix that q 600 grass with noob mined ord grass ; or else if that's not available it is still better to use q 300+ bps and then use 1 thread q 600+ instead of 7 threads q 90 | [12:41] |
| diana_coman: | proper modelling would need some concrete numbers re what q goes in /out at each point and then some reasonable prediction re loot which I'm not even sure is something sane | [12:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | there is that knob in mining that regulates grass usage, and it has a factor of 7. crafters aslo have knobs, as discussed above, but they do not work that amply. | [12:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, guessmodelling. | [12:42] |
| diana_coman: | as I'm not a crafter I don't really know the q you get basically - I was assuming higher q as output | [12:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | q 600 bundle + q 10 bp will be about q 90 output i would guess. | [12:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | maybe as high as 100 or a little over, but in general speaking thereabouts. | [12:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | can sorta guess what comes out within a 10-20\% range by now | [12:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, i never tried anything as drastic as q600 grass + q 10 bps, but i wouldguess you wouldn't get 3x the cft, maybe 2x or so. | [12:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | hard to tell, depends what pops/minis do | [12:45] |
| diana_coman: | for a whole stack I would expect more than 2x the cft | [12:46] |
| diana_coman: | precisely why I chose it so drastic really | [12:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | so you think 1 stack grass q 600 + 1stack cft bps q 10 = 2 stacks cft ? | [12:46] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, 3 stacks grass you need there | [12:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | aha. hey, if you got the goods and want to give it a try i'm game to do a run on a wfh basis | [12:47] |
| diana_coman: | sadly atm I don't have enough grass for that, but it would be interesting, yes; will see | [12:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | aite. | [12:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | were we trading some stuff here ? | [12:49] |
| diana_coman: | yes, sorry, 1 sec | [12:55] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, trade? | [13:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc 5000 * 180 * 1.1 * 1.8 | [13:02] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: 5000 * 180 * 1.1 * 1.8 = 1782000.0000000002 | [13:02] |
| diana_coman: | the ibs bps too | [13:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc 9999 * 5 * (18 * .07 + 407 * .05 + 446 * .05 + 544 * .07 +702 * 0.05) | [13:04] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: 9999 * 5 * (18 * .07 + 407 * .05 + 446 * .05 + 544 * .07 +702 * 0.05) = 5853914.55 | [13:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc 5 * (473* 725 * .64 + 2511 * 882 * .07) | [13:05] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: 5 * (473* 725 * .64 + 2511 * 882 * .07) = 1872505.7000000002 | [13:05] |
| diana_coman: | ~!calc 10*9999*(18*0.07+0.05*407+0.07*543+0.07*446+0.05*702)+10*(7910*0.41*25+2511*0.07*882+473*0.64*725)+1.5*60*(1056*3.4+9766*0.1) | [13:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc 1782000.0000000002 - 1872505.7000000002 - 5853914.55 - 1.5*60*(1056 * 3.4 + 9766 * .1) | [13:06] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: 1782000.0000000002 - 1872505.7000000002 - 5853914.55 - 1.5*60*(1056 * 3.4 + 9766 * .1) = -6355450.25 | [13:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | i owe you 6.35mn that right ? | [13:06] |
| diana_coman: | !~calc 10*9999*(18*0.07+0.05*407+0.07*543+0.07*446+0.05*702)+10*(7910*0.41*25+2511*0.07*882+473*0.64*725)+1.5*60*(1056*3.4+9766*0.1) | [13:06] |
| jhvh1: | diana_coman: 10*9999*(18*0.07+0.05*407+0.07*543+0.07*446+0.05*702)+10*(7910*0.41*25+2511*0.07*882+473*0.64*725)+1.5*60*(1056*3.4+9766*0.1) = 17559557 | [13:06] |
| diana_coman: | hm, what did I miss, lol | [13:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | are you counting teh bps at 1000\% ? | [13:07] |
| diana_coman: | yes, isn't that ? | [13:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | i only pay 500 on 'em. | [13:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | i sell at 1000 | [13:08] |
| diana_coman: | ugh; so then let's settle it on the grass+ cft bps as for the rest I don't quite see the rush to sell them at 500\% | [13:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | alright. | [13:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc 1782000.0000000002 - 9999 * 5 * (18 * .07) - 1.5*60*(1056 * 3.4 + 9766 * .1) | [13:09] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: 1782000.0000000002 - 9999 * 5 * (18 * .07) - 1.5*60*(1056 * 3.4 + 9766 * .1) = 1307976.3000000003 | [13:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | you then owe me 1,30mn | [13:09] |
| diana_coman: | aha | [13:09] |
| diana_coman: | that good? | [13:10] |
| diana_coman: | thank you | [13:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | danke\ | [13:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | AUCTION : 81 imp cruddy hoes, 32849d each. 5mn heard diana_coman . ETA 3jan 17:00 art | [13:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | hey there Toaster_Struedel | [13:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | nice name lol | [13:26] |
| Toaster_Struedel: | :) | [13:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, will be just a moment. | [13:28] |
| Toaster_Struedel: | No worries, thank you for your help. | [13:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | Toaster_Struedel http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/FPhtu/?raw=true | [13:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | mlcmolina did you decide what you wanted to buy ? | [13:46] |
| mlcmolina: | Hi mircea, i need to buy 10 lbn and a craft table. My bot lost it while exploring | [13:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | ill just give you a table. | [13:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | and 10 lbn is like, not worth pricing so ima just give you that, too. uber quality! | [13:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | come meet me in town. | [13:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | mlcmolina there to my left, the table by itself. it's for you. | [13:59] |
| mlcmolina: | :) | [14:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | eeenjoy. | [14:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | im curious what quality you mine with those lbn lol. careful not to mix them with anything. | [14:01] |
| Birdman: | 5.5 mn on the hoes mircea_popescu | [14:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | AUCTION : 81 imp cruddy hoes, 32849d each. 5.5mn heard Birdman . ETA 3jan 17:00 art | [14:24] |
| diana_coman: | 6.5mn on the imps mircea_popescu | [14:34] |
| Birdman: | 7mn | [14:35] |
| danielpbarron: | diana_coman, yes i do want the leather | [14:40] |
| danielpbarron: | jurov, can i get some coppers? | [14:49] |
| jurov: | yes | [14:51] |
| jurov: | how many? | [14:51] |
| danielpbarron: | got a billion? | [14:51] |
| jurov: | that's 1BTC? yes | [14:52] |
| danielpbarron: | no, 10 | [14:52] |
| jurov: | no, up to 6.2 | [14:53] |
| danielpbarron: | can you get more then? i don't need it right away | [14:53] |
| jurov: | I think i'll leave the job to someone else. | [14:53] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron, you around in some 10 minutes so I take the wpl out? | [14:56] |
| danielpbarron: | ya | [14:56] |
| danielpbarron: | jurov, ?? | [14:56] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, 8mn on the imps | [14:56] |
| diana_coman: | kk, taking it out | [14:56] |
| jurov: | danielpbarron: yes, I'm not interested much anymore, will sell these coins and let someone else be the merchant | [14:57] |
| diana_coman: | ugh, mixed with some; danielpbarron , it's 5327 wpl , 280q | [15:03] |
| diana_coman: | !~calc 1.8*5327*2.8*152 | [15:04] |
| jhvh1: | diana_coman: 1.8*5327*2.8*152 = 4080908.1599999997 | [15:04] |
| diana_coman: | enjoy! | [15:06] |
| danielpbarron: | ty | [15:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://logs.minigame.bz/latest.log.html#t19:53:35 <<< i'm guessing eulora needs a new official copper merchant huh ? | [15:54] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: #Eulora log for Monday, 2017-01-02 (at logs.minigame.bz) | [15:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyone want the job ? | [15:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | AUCTION : 81 imp cruddy hoes, 32849d each. 8mn heard diana_coman . ETA 3jan 17:00 art | [15:55] |
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