| alikim: | diana_coman: I'm half way through to 3k grass for cfts, so mayb ein a day or two | [03:48] |
| diana_coman: | cool, just ping me when you got it, no worries | [04:29] |
| Birdman: | just got the full storage message for my basics, so i need to do some house cleaning | [04:34] |
| Birdman: | diana_coman at a quick glance, i saw ~2k q150+ grass i have, how many threads'll that get me? | [04:35] |
| diana_coman: | divide it by 3 and you have it, lol | [04:35] |
| Birdman: | what q threads do i get? | [04:35] |
| diana_coman: | I'll charge 10\% as my pay and on top of it the market price for the bps unless you provide the bps yourself | [04:35] |
| diana_coman: | alikim, the above might of interest to you too ^ | [04:36] |
| Birdman: | so what, i give you 3 grass, pay the 500\% mark up on the bp base value, and then 10\% ecu of the entire base value? | [04:37] |
| diana_coman: | hm, with 150q grass I'd say the cft will end up some 185q but obv I can't be 100\% sure until I see it | [04:37] |
| Birdman: | ofc | [04:37] |
| Birdman: | rather, 10\% of the bv of the thread that comes out | [04:37] |
| diana_coman: | yes, that | [04:38] |
| Birdman: | so in effect you charge 10\% of bv output on tinkering clicks then? | [04:38] |
| diana_coman: | yes | [04:39] |
| Birdman: | ah, interesting | [04:39] |
| diana_coman: | mainly for the time it takes/blocks me from doing something else basically | [04:39] |
| Birdman: | and you keep the loots? | [04:39] |
| diana_coman: | no, I'll give you the loots | [04:40] |
| Birdman: | cool cool | [04:40] |
| diana_coman: | but I doubt there is any | [04:40] |
| Birdman: | if i had tons of grass it might be worth it just to stall you up | [04:40] |
| diana_coman: | grass 150q -> thread 185q, no loot likely | [04:40] |
| Birdman: | right | [04:40] |
| diana_coman: | on the other hand, if you prefer, I have lower q bps as wel | [04:41] |
| diana_coman: | so if you are after loot, I can use those, I don't mind either way | [04:41] |
| Birdman: | meh, i think it'd probably cost less to hire mp in all reality considering the 500\% bp cost is and extra 50\% above qabv in the end | [04:41] |
| diana_coman: | fine with me, really | [04:42] |
| Birdman: | yes, just feeling out the market | [04:42] |
| diana_coman: | fwiw I think he charges the same in fact | [04:42] |
| diana_coman: | and as long as he has bps/time to do it, he'd probably get a bit higher q, so yeah, you might want to do that | [04:43] |
| Birdman: | yeah no doubt | [04:44] |
| Birdman: | well i need cft pretty bad, low q maculture/ high q SI as well | [04:45] |
| Birdman: | im actually using more cft than bits while even bare handing | [04:45] |
| Birdman: | danielpbarron the quality output on claims is the same with small bundle q vs bit q | [06:40] |
| Birdman: | q452 bundle and q450 bits gets me the same quality from claims, anyways | [06:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | zak dude : don't want to trade at x and disappear at x+20 minutes wtf. | [07:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | Birdman> if i had tons of grass it might be worth it just to stall you up << lol a new play emerges. | [07:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | so sweet when you look at the trade window and it's like all full except for the last square and it's like 500 of that 800 of this... yum | [07:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | Birdman i took teh hiring off the shop. you read it ? | [07:54] |
| alikim: | diana_coman: I was gonna sell you grass at the market price and buy cfts if you sell them at the market price as well, just wanted to be a priority buyer since it's my grass... unless you don't really want to craft cfts and offer your crafintg services instead | [07:56] |
| alikim: | I obviously don't have any bps | [08:00] |
| diana_coman: | alikim, that's the same thing really, so yes, not a problem | [08:33] |
| alikim: | kk | [08:35] |
| alikim: | mircea_popescu: on your shop page, new price is 150\% basics and 180\% advanced? | [10:24] |
| alikim: | all prices went up? | [10:24] |
| zakorus123: | hello | [17:45] |
| zakorus123: | jurov here? | [17:45] |
| Birdman: | 3 ords over night bare handing | [18:04] |
| Birdman: | hanbot if you want to re sell some of those tools from the most recent auction i'd be interested | [18:06] |
| alikim: | what can I craft at low level of tinkering that can be sold and that will drop bps? | [18:54] |
| Birdman: | what do you mean by drop bps alikim ? | [18:55] |
| Birdman: | the only crafts that loot bps these days are considerations and skill books | [18:55] |
| alikim: | in loot I mean | [18:55] |
| alikim: | I'm just looking for what I could craft and sell at my level being least dependant on external supply | [18:59] |
| Birdman: | external supply of what? because if you dont get anything internally, where is it supposed to come from? | [19:07] |
| Birdman: | i think the easiest thing for noobs to do is gathering and building | [19:08] |
| Birdman: | i dont know why most of you try to go at tinkering | [19:08] |
| Birdman: | and odd jobs, of course | [19:08] |
| Birdman: | there does seem to be a rising bar to entry to do anything in the game as of late | [19:12] |
| Birdman: | im not sure if its because there's so little of players that its inflating things because of serious scarcity or what | [19:12] |
| alikim: | in this case internal supply of bps, so I could gather my own mats, craft from my own bps and loot those bps back from crafting | [19:13] |
| Birdman: | crafts dont loot blueprints anymore | [19:13] |
| alikim: | yeah, I just asked to double check | [19:14] |
| alikim: | as to supply, as I said long time ago, when it happened the game changed so that there is 10 times less resources coming from tinies and that should drive prices up | [19:15] |
| Birdman: | to go at it completely internally you'd need your own supply of bouqanist considerations, blacks of despair and doubtful tomes, and screens | [19:15] |
| Birdman: | bouquinist considerations of all tiers that it | [19:15] |
| Birdman: | and i suspect there's a missing one right now anyways | [19:16] |
| Birdman: | well alikim the biggest thing is that blueprint quality matters now | [19:16] |
| Birdman: | that and the quality system, used to be able to take all q1 ingreds and bps and the output quality was only determined by your skill or whatever, so mp could have turned all q1 into q200+ stuff | [19:17] |
| alikim: | <Birdman> to go at it completely internally you'd need your own supply of bouqanist considerations, blacks of despair and doubtful tomes, and screen << and how do you get there? I'm not doing any crafting yet, just studying things | [19:18] |
| Birdman: | well the crux of it all is the bouqinist considerations, they loot all other considerations which loot all blueprints besides skillbook bps | [19:19] |
| Birdman: | so you'd have to buy a ton of those, ton of bps for blacks of despair and doubtful tome, or the items themselves, loot lots of every consideration, click those into blueprints and bits, use the bps and bits to get cft and the materials to make the BOD and DT, rinse and repeat | [19:20] |
| Birdman: | which is impossible if you're of a low enough gathering level to have real chance to find the high tier materials that they all use | [19:21] |
| Birdman: | and you'd need numina for those lines too, so you'd have to buy bps to loot some of that too | [19:21] |
| Birdman: | in short you couldnt go at it alone | [19:21] |
| Birdman: | things have had to be 'magic'd' into the game through auction, and iirc the last s.mg auction was the last of its kind | [19:23] |
| alikim: | I see, thanks, well, exploration is also unnecessarily throttled by the fact that you depend on 1-2 suppliers of cfts, which for some reason are rather hard to craft | [19:26] |
| alikim: | on the other hand I feel like I'm the only new player in the history of this game trying to do something on my own instead of just being somebody's extra time slot, so all problems I have are exclusively my own | [19:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | nah, plenty of lone wolves historically. mod6 possibly earliest. | [19:28] |
| Birdman: | i went at it by myself, i had wasted weeks gathering, with tools mind you, not knowing i had to train :P | [19:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | independence without wealth and without knowledge is a rather iffy proposition in all known worlds. | [19:29] |
| Birdman: | got a few 100k from building an ord claim for someone, then had went at gathering heaps of grass to sell for a profit and thats how my gaming started, think i made some 30mn by the end of it | [19:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | alikim actually, bp scarcity drove prices up. | [19:29] |
| Birdman: | threads aren't hard to craft, theres just a shortage of grass, idk about others but i dont want to waste my time getting it | [19:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | i guess. | [19:31] |
| alikim: | mircea_popescu: so you are agaisnt the idea that bps for low level crafted items should drop from those items? | [19:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | i'm not for or against ; they just don't. | [19:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | game's more complex than that. | [19:32] |
| alikim: | so they might start at some point? | [19:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | they certainly did up to a point | [19:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | actually, skill book bps still drop from crafting. | [19:34] |
| alikim: | I'm not so concerned with being independent from buying cfts so the sake of independence, it's the volatile prices and scarcity of supply that bothers me | [19:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | well in general traders are supposed to make a bundle in volatile markets. | [19:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, i wouldn't say there's any scarcity - i'll sell more than you can likely buy at 1000\% | [19:36] |
| alikim: | gathering is not really profitable for me, so if the price moves up I will not buy at all, not the matter of quantity | [19:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | it's not altogether clear that a noob crafter can make money by buying high q bps. | [19:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, it comes and goes. | [19:38] |
| alikim: | [09:28.27] <mircea_popescu> nah, plenty of lone wolves historically. mod6 possibly earliest. << where are those wolves now? are they still playing? | [19:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | occasionally. | [19:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, if anything, i suspect the correct strategy for noob crafter is to get high q bundle and leverage his low q output to get a lot of replica loot. | [19:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | find a niche where bps are actually in short supply choking a line and his replicatory abilities are actually worth money. | [19:40] |
| alikim: | what is replica loot? bps? | [19:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | sometimes when you oc you get more of the same item | [19:40] |
| Birdman: | how would you make sure there's less numina and more replica? | [19:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | i dunno, be lucky ? | [19:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | but yeah, that's the drawback, tons of numina. | [19:42] |
| hanbot: | <Birdman> hanbot if you want to re sell some of those tools from the most recent auction i'd be interested << i'd sell you 100 for 4.65M. lemme know if your some meant moar. | [19:42] |
| hanbot: | congrats on the barehanded ords btw | [19:42] |
| Birdman: | thanks, i suspect it has alot to do with using tools lately | [19:42] |
| Birdman: | i'd pay 4.2mn for em | [19:46] |
| alikim: | Birdman: at which gathering level you got your first ord? | [19:48] |
| Birdman: | letsee, probably the first time i used a chetty stick, around level 60 maybe? | [19:48] |
| Birdman: | im sure its possible to find them with basic or improved tools at any level | [19:49] |
| alikim: | I mean bh | [19:49] |
| Birdman: | but i wouldnt hold your breath barehanding | [19:49] |
| Birdman: | to be honest i started bare handing only well after level 200 | [19:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | i don't think i ever got an ord bh | [19:49] |
| Birdman: | just used chetty sticks for the longest time | [19:49] |
| Birdman: | and i wasnt even happy with the price i got them for back then! | [19:50] |
| Birdman: | scoffs | [19:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | Birdman remember when cs at 200 were crazy expensive ? | [19:50] |
| Birdman: | yeah lol crazy how thats changed | [19:50] |
| hanbot: | Birdman at that markup, you'd have to take the lot (270, 11.3mn). for 100, 4.5m, final offer. | [19:52] |
| Birdman: | alikim its free to bare hand with the bot, set it to run overnight and see what happens | [19:52] |
| alikim: | Birdman, my bot is running 24/7 if I'm not programming it | [19:53] |
| Birdman: | havent found any ords barehanding yet? what level are you? | [19:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | and so what do you mean you "can't afford" to do it ? | [19:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | not like it costs anything | [19:54] |
| alikim: | mircea_popescu: it costs cfts to build claims | [19:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | or lbn | [19:54] |
| alikim: | I don't find tiny claims anymore, right at the point where building them would ve been profitable the game changed so I find only exclusively smalls | [19:55] |
| Birdman: | nice! | [19:55] |
| Birdman: | are you bare handing only smalls? | [19:55] |
| alikim: | awesome I think | [19:55] |
| alikim: | now only grass because I need cfts to keep going at all but most of the claims are close to zero profit I dont build them | [19:56] |
| Birdman: | that may dwarf even my prodigious results | [19:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | you find smalls bh ? | [19:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | pretty impressive. | [19:57] |
| alikim: | what other options I have? | [19:57] |
| Birdman: | locking the smalls and selling them perhaps | [19:57] |
| Birdman: | there's always money to be made barehanding, and getting only smalls is pretty crazy | [19:57] |
| alikim: | as you said they are low level | [19:57] |
| Birdman: | sell em cheap then lol | [19:57] |
| alikim: | I'd rather have 100\% tinies and make money but w/e | [19:58] |
| Birdman: | i didnt do much bh back in the day, though i did get exclusively smalls with tools / ords with chetty sticks, but getting only smalls while barehanding looks like a bright future for you in the gathering line | [19:58] |
| danielpbarron: | alikim, i can make threads for you with that grass | [19:58] |
| alikim: | danielpbarron: you raised price on your cfts | [19:59] |
| Birdman: | what are you charging for that service danielpbarron ? | [19:59] |
| danielpbarron: | ya | [19:59] |
| danielpbarron: | 15 copper per click | [19:59] |
| Birdman: | and for blueprint costs? | [19:59] |
| danielpbarron: | you provide that | [20:00] |
| Birdman: | i ~have~ to? | [20:00] |
| danielpbarron: | or buy my blueprints | [20:00] |
| Birdman: | danielpbarron i'll buy all of your q159 cft bps | [20:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | alikim how much are you paying for cft anyway ? it's one of the items least price change-y, i recall selling cft at 400-450 a pop back in 2015 actually. | [20:02] |
| danielpbarron: | Birdman, 2223 | [20:03] |
| Birdman: | bout 100k ya? deal | [20:03] |
| alikim: | mircea_popescu: I bought your recently, so you should know better | [20:03] |
| alikim: | I bought from danielpbarron and diana_coman as well at their prices | [20:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, i guess i'll go digging for some grass once i'm done with all this gin stuff. | [20:04] |
| Birdman: | i might need to dig some grass for these cft bps | [20:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | alikim i didn't pay that much attention. i recall 2 stacks cft 157 went for 7mn | [20:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | which was like 123\% or some such shit. | [20:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | where were you then anyway ? | [20:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | certainly ~0 incentive for me to make more. | [20:06] |
| Birdman: | hanbot imma see what i can monetize and maybe buy all of them if possible | [20:09] |
| hanbot: | kk | [20:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | come to think about it, that was one of the best purchases ever eh hanbot | [20:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | you used it up yet ? | [20:11] |
| hanbot: | nop, i have fairly ample tool stox | [20:11] |
| hanbot: | oh oh the cft | [20:12] |
| hanbot: | nearly! | [20:12] |
| Birdman: | hanbot do you have hoes by chance? | [20:12] |
| Birdman: | i'd rather those than adze | [20:12] |
| hanbot: | no hoes available atm | [20:13] |
| alikim: | mircea_popescu: would you like to buy WPL 286 q114, 152 * 286 * 114 * 180 = 89204 ? | [20:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | alright. | [20:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | i take you read my shop page eventually ? | [20:16] |
| alikim: | yeah didn't have time before | [20:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | right, because you were too busy hewing and hawing about half a quality point worth 50 ecu to read about how 150 is not 115\% | [20:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | i thought it was pretty hysterical myself. | [20:16] |
| alikim: | crashed sry | [20:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | that's a new one. | [20:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | client actually crashed ? | [20:22] |
| alikim: | it crashes all the time | [20:22] |
| alikim: | how's that new? | [20:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | really ? i had no idea. | [20:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | the linux one never crashes. | [20:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | put the stuff in a dpaste, jurov may want to look at it sometime. | [20:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | overninght mining/crafting wouldn't work too good if the client crashed huh. | [20:24] |
| alikim: | I wrote a watchdog program that restarts the client when it crashes | [20:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | not bad. | [20:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | you ever gonna publish all that stuff ? | [20:24] |
| alikim: | you need change? | [20:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | sokay | [20:26] |
| alikim: | ok, thanks! | [20:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | cheerz | [20:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | pretty cool that you're over q > 100 in what, a few weeks of play. | [20:27] |
| alikim: | [10:24.56] <mircea_popescu> you ever gonna publish all that stuff ? << my stuff is for win 8.1 only besides it's kinda sensitive as the watchdog also relogs for me and stuff, so you'd have to modify it for your needs... and if you can do that you can write your own watchdog! | [20:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah, but you're definitely not going to make any friends that way. | [20:28] |
| alikim: | what do you mean? | [20:29] |
| danielpbarron: | yeah i'm on gentoo linux and the game runs all week until the server gets updated on wednesday | [20:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | just what i said ? i understand you're coming from windows and suffer from the kind of braindamage, but read up on open source sometime, it's a thing. | [20:29] |
| Birdman: | mircea_popescu: have BB - 8798 q74; 9897 q77; 1482 q70; 2471 q154; 3868.15 * 1.8 = 6162 | [20:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | im in town. | [20:30] |
| danielpbarron: | i'm using basic adzes right now on a snail spot and i'm finding mostly smalls | [20:30] |
| Birdman: | in the table | [20:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | just put it in teh window. | [20:30] |
| Birdman: | dont care if it mixes? | [20:31] |
| danielpbarron: | heh secret trades | [20:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | i don't care if it mixes, nor will i pay for whatever quality you're thinking you're selling. either mix it yourself ; or else pick one to sell. | [20:31] |
| danielpbarron: | i'm trying to make stuff exactly quality 100, 200, 300 etc now | [20:31] |
| danielpbarron: | i made some quality 100 bits | [20:32] |
| Birdman: | alright i'll sell everything besides that q154 | [20:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | prolly good for simplified management | [20:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | Birdman worx | [20:32] |
| Birdman: | i mix everything in multiples of 100 quality | [20:32] |
| Birdman: | mircea_popescu 5231346 | [20:33] |
| Birdman: | ty ty | [20:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | enjoy | [20:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | this guy. one day fills me up of tlc, another day fills me up of beans... | [20:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | i got enough of these to feed an army now | [20:35] |
| Birdman: | hey, those beans were a long while in the making | [20:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | go get some grubs why don't you | [20:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | or grass i suppose. always could use more grass | [20:36] |
| Birdman: | no money in that stuff | [20:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | really ?! | [20:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | in beans but not in sg ? | [20:37] |
| Birdman: | right now im working on lots of leathers, wwb, and tlc | [20:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | eh i got enough tlc for a while. | [20:38] |
| Birdman: | well the beans i was getting a long time ago when it was the most profitable in base value using my low q bits | [20:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | but sure, leather an' berries work | [20:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | Birdman sg is like... 300 ? defo worth it. | [20:38] |
| Birdman: | yeah but the tlc will be used faster than found, sorta an invest | [20:38] |
| Birdman: | oh, well the thing is im pumping all my money into farming/building/gathering | [20:38] |
| Birdman: | let some other jack work on the lumber | [20:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | you think ? | [20:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | sg is gathering you nut you. | [20:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | i mean, farming, not lumber. | [20:40] |
| Birdman: | lool | [20:40] |
| Birdman: | no kidding huh, i'll look into getting some then | [20:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | heck, i was suppost to be the lumber jack. but then danielpbarron stole my thunder. | [20:40] |
| danielpbarron: | go after the grubs that are near the snails | [20:40] |
| danielpbarron: | my lj is 48 | [20:40] |
| Birdman: | what is found near there danielpbarron ? | [20:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | btw danielpbarron not bad idea stocking on snails, ima be making coal and ampoules for sale sometime | [20:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | prolly in june at the rate this shit is going | [20:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | still got 3k gin to make | [20:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | but i got teh reeds and tpt all lined up. 6 fucking stacks. | [20:41] |
| danielpbarron: | Birdman, flotsam, crumbly, solid | [20:42] |
| Birdman: | and sg? | [20:42] |
| danielpbarron: | sg and snails ya | [20:42] |
| Birdman: | meh, i'll think it over | [20:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | that sounds like a pretty good spot, sb an' f certainly neede.d | [20:43] |
| danielpbarron: | i'm at a different snail spot now that has shiny, grass, solid, nest | [20:44] |
| Birdman: | speaking of, want ~6k nests q159 ? | [20:44] |
| danielpbarron: | me? no | [20:45] |
| Birdman: | mircea_popescu | [20:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | alright. | [20:45] |
| Birdman: | 5493 q159 bn 930k | [20:47] |
| Birdman: | bought those off you way back when for 130\% | [20:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol! | [20:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | nice move. | [20:48] |
| Birdman: | ty | [20:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | why'd you buy them anyway ? | [20:48] |
| Birdman: | i forget what they were used in that i wanted | [20:49] |
| danielpbarron: | bird's nest and gin | [20:49] |
| danielpbarron: | for making vellum or something | [20:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | that only takes a little bit tho | [20:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | homeboy's got a whole island's worth here | [20:49] |
| Birdman: | iirc it was the amount you offered so i just took it | [20:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, that's a few trade ords right htere. | [20:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | bare handed! | [20:50] |
| Birdman: | mircea_popescu you say for large batches of crafts you pay the above prices for all bps included etc for every craft up to the point the item is made right? are those prices just at base value or matched to the quality of the craft | [20:52] |
| danielpbarron: | ooo just got a micro pop on solid | [20:54] |
| danielpbarron: | like 100 from a small with 3 threads | [20:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | Birdman huh ? | [20:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | nice dpb | [20:56] |
| Birdman: | "As broad guideline I'm paying the above for raw materials and 500\% for the blueprints involved in the whole craft line." | [20:57] |
| Birdman: | so if this item was 3 crafts into a line, you pay for all the bps used up to the point to make it? and do you pay for them at the quality adjusted base value? | [20:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | yes. | [20:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | and no. | [20:58] |
| Birdman: | so just at bv for the bps used? | [20:59] |
| danielpbarron: | woah another little pop on solid | [20:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | i don't pay for what YOU used. i just take the 100 value as a reference. | [20:59] |
| danielpbarron: | got at least another 100 | [20:59] |
| Birdman: | buy* | [21:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | 470 - 47 ? | [21:02] |
| Birdman: | thats the cost of the ingreds minus the bp | [21:02] |
| Birdman: | since we already covered the price paid for bps | [21:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | ((47*5*776)+(470*776*1.5))*1.57 = 1145220 | [21:04] |
| Birdman: | oh i forgot to adjust for quality, (1.54**) | [21:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | a right, 154 not 157 | [21:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | and i'd be selling it for 1488787.04, too. | [21:07] |
| Birdman: | dg is made from 1 sm(157*1.8)+3 rf(80*3*1.5)+1 cr(73*1.5) = 752.1 at your pricing | [21:09] |
| Birdman: | 752.1*1.54=1,158 | [21:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | a right. | [21:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | it's not 470 * 1.5 it's 157 * 1.8 + 293 * 1.5 | [21:11] |
| Birdman: | (1158*776)+(47*5*776)=1968 | [21:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | mno. (722.1 + 47*5) * 776 * 1.54 = 1143772.784 | [21:12] |
| Birdman: | where do you get 722.1 | [21:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | it's not 470 * 1.5 it's 157 * 1.8 + 293 * 1.5 | [21:14] |
| Birdman: | that 293 i think should be 313 | [21:15] |
| Birdman: | 1 cr 73+180 for 3 rf | [21:15] |
| Birdman: | 240 for 3 rf** | [21:15] |
| Birdman: | 313*1.5+157*1.8*1.54+(47*5 | [21:16] |
| Birdman: | (313*1.5+157*1.8*1.54+(47*5))*776 | [21:16] |
| Birdman: | i also bought those goops way back for pretty cheap | [21:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | (313*1.5+157*1.8*1.54+(47*5))*776*1.54 = 1361991 aha | [21:42] |
| Birdman: | mircea_popescu dont multiply twice by 1.54 | [21:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol im too tired for this. tomorro. | [22:01] |
| Birdman: | no sweat lol | [22:03] |
| zakorus123: | hey guys | [22:14] |
| alikim: | <mircea_popescu> just what i said ? i understand you're coming fromwindows and suffer from the kind of braindamage, but read up on open source sometime, it's a thing. << I don't think I owe anyone anything, that covers the idea of open source as well, if I feel like sharing and caring, I will, if I don't, I don't | [22:18] |
| alikim: | as to my would-be friends if I give them a freebie and woudn't-be-friends if I don't, I don't need such friends | [22:18] |
| alikim: | as to braindamage, I think people hating all the time are braindamaged, no? I don't hate unix based os, I don't use them and I don't care about their existence much, but I don't hate them, why would I? | [22:19] |
| Birdman: | what are friends if not to share misfortune | [22:42] |
| alikim: | <Birdman> got a few 100k from building an ord claim for someone, thenhad went at gathering heaps of grass to sell for a profit and thats how my gaming started, think i made some 30mn by the end of it << how long didi it take? | [23:58] |
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