| mircea_popescu: | lol hanbot | [07:51] |
| Gaxaro: | Hey there | [08:39] |
| Birdman: | hello | [08:51] |
| DianaComan: | hi Gaxaro | [09:01] |
| DianaComan: | mircea_popescu, you around for those considerations? | [09:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | aye. DianaComan | [09:06] |
| DianaComan: | yay, on my way to town, lo | [09:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | cheers. | [09:08] |
| DianaComan: | thanks! | [09:08] |
| DianaComan: | good that I kept some of my doubtful tome bps | [09:08] |
| DianaComan: | but anybody making those by any chance? | [09:08] |
| DianaComan: | I mean the bps | [09:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | i will once this gin is gone | [09:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh ? | [09:09] |
| DianaComan: | doubtful tome bps | [09:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | i've not made one so far. | [09:10] |
| Gaxaro: | I'm looking for work btw! | [09:11] |
| Birdman: | Noob mining seems less fruitful these days Gaxaro seeing as the q increase is capped now | [09:12] |
| jurov: | Gaxaro i still want the flotsam, but can pay only 9\% basevalue | [09:24] |
| Birdman: | no to mention your q probably went up and output down huh | [09:25] |
| Birdman: | less you have some q1 threads and bits lol | [09:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | darn danielpbarron still dodn't get his molluscs with all the commotion yest. sorry about that. say when you're on ill get them to you. | [09:29] |
| Gaxaro: | Jurov alright | [09:30] |
| jurov: | Birdman you wanted to trade? | [09:30] |
| jurov: | brb in a hour | [09:30] |
| Gaxaro: | Jurov check pm btw | [09:31] |
| DianaComan: | Birdman, he get q2 | [09:34] |
| DianaComan: | not exactly up, lol | [09:34] |
| DianaComan: | and yes, I sold him low q thread precisely to keep his costs low at least | [09:34] |
| Birdman: | well, its twice as much but im sure you know that | [09:34] |
| DianaComan: | seeing how he won't get high q anyway | [09:35] |
| Birdman: | well by that logic the higher q ingreds the better for him | [09:35] |
| Birdman: | less tool uses for more output | [09:35] |
| Birdman: | assuming he's profiting off selling the stuff | [09:35] |
| DianaComan: | the numbers don't back you up | [09:35] |
| DianaComan: | that's the thing | [09:35] |
| Birdman: | yep | [09:35] |
| DianaComan: | like this he is at least in the green | [09:35] |
| Birdman: | yeah | [09:36] |
| Birdman: | not really any noobs around though, maybe he should strong arm for better deals on his labor | [09:36] |
| danielpbarron: | i think it's safe to say now that low q stuff won't sell for over 50\% | [09:38] |
| DianaComan: | lol | [09:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | depending on the stuff - rarer stuff still might | [09:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | heck, actually - rarer stuff does. | [09:41] |
| DianaComan: | rarer stuff still does | [09:41] |
| DianaComan: | talking of which: mircea_popescu let me know when/if you want those molluscs | [09:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | now works. | [09:42] |
| DianaComan: | k, on my way back to town | [09:42] |
| danielpbarron: | speaking of which | [09:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | yep meet me in town danielpbarron | [09:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | 90 * (5000 + 1.5 * 1963) + | [09:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | settle at teh end DianaComan | [09:44] |
| DianaComan: | uhm, you did not adjust there, did you? | [09:45] |
| DianaComan: | for q | [09:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | 90 * (5000 + 1.5 * 2.28 * 1963) + 30 * (5000 + 1.5 * 8.03* 1963) = 1913541.45 | [09:45] |
| DianaComan: | aha | [09:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | and holy moses on a stick that q. | [09:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | best so far in game or some shit ? | [09:46] |
| DianaComan: | I think it's safe to say best q mined | [09:47] |
| DianaComan: | given how danielpbarron gets his, he is right to say he still has higher q | [09:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah yea | [09:47] |
| DianaComan: | but yeah, the new way q is calculated finally makes mining a more reasonable activity basically | [09:47] |
| DianaComan: | even if it also makes it more difficult in some sense - but I'd have that difficulty any time over the previous struggle to get positive on anything other than basics | [09:48] |
| DianaComan: | anyway, I'm counting the moneyz towards the 10mn to reveal the molluscs I suppose | [09:48] |
| DianaComan: | lol | [09:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [09:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | trade now dan | [09:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron | [09:49] |
| danielpbarron: | ty | [09:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | enjoy! | [09:50] |
| Birdman: | hey DianaComan you wanna trade some cs for my remark tlc? | [09:53] |
| Birdman: | well by 'some' i mean a ton | [09:53] |
| DianaComan: | a ton is really not an option, lol | [09:54] |
| Birdman: | make it one | [09:54] |
| DianaComan: | ? why? | [09:54] |
| DianaComan: | lolz | [09:54] |
| DianaComan: | could give 20 I guess | [09:54] |
| Birdman: | the market demands them | [09:54] |
| DianaComan: | well, the market better make some bps first and then it may come with demands to me | [09:55] |
| Birdman: | yeah well thats what im sayin lol | [09:55] |
| DianaComan: | well, say it to yourself then, not to me | [09:55] |
| Birdman: | I cant | [09:55] |
| DicePower: | Hello World! | [17:34] |
| DicePower: | Anyone know if there's supposed to be a C:/eulora-v0.1.1/EuloraV0.1.1/mk/msvc10/wkstypical.sln file in the Windows source code? | [17:39] |
| DianaComan: | hi DicePower maybe jurov ; I'd say that the VS solution is for cs not for the client itself | [17:41] |
| jurov: | DicePower: which package is that? this looks like my binary release without source code | [17:42] |
| DicePower: | eulora-v0.1.1.tar.gz 09-21-15 sha512sum | [17:42] |
| DicePower: | 29ff3eacdd1f58a39006c30791c2ff691c808d8c2070428205377e4c8a7d40e08dc50f12171ed9d0e6384ed384cde1b5d6cef2342451aa8d308ee1df0db6bd36 | [17:42] |
| DicePower: | From http://minigame.bz/eulora/source/ | [17:42] |
| DicePower: | The first link that isn't crossed out. | [17:43] |
| jurov: | it's EuloraV0.1.1/mk/msvc10/wkspstypical.sln | [17:44] |
| jurov: | with added "ps" in the middle | [17:44] |
| DicePower: | ahh okay | [17:44] |
| DicePower: | I have the same file in the cs libs as well. | [17:44] |
| DicePower: | with the ps | [17:44] |
| jurov: | dunno how it got there, it's not in my cs dir | [17:45] |
| jurov: | there's CS/mk/msvc10/wkspytypical.sln but it's completely different thing | [17:46] |
| DicePower: | Right, not the libs, the cs_July, my bad | [17:46] |
| DicePower: | Should CS/mk/msvc10/wkspytypical.sln be compiled first, or only CS/mk/msvc10/wkstypical.sln | [17:47] |
| jurov: | no | [17:47] |
| jurov: | the "py" is CS with python support which we don't use at all | [17:47] |
| DicePower: | ahh okay | [17:47] |
| DicePower: | So I try to build appsclient and got this: http://dpaste.com/0W98TVJ It doesn't look like the dependencies were built either. One thing to note is that I built appsclient by mistake BEFORE setting the Include Directories, but when I choose to rebuild appsclient, I keep getting the same error now, so not sure if it's related. Should I try to resolve the error by manually building the dependencies (since it doesn't | [18:06] |
| DicePower: | look like they were build either, from what I can see), or is it likely the other way around (the error causing the dependencies not be automatically be built)? | [18:06] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: dpaste: 0W98TVJ (at dpaste.com) | [18:06] |
| jurov: | hm, isn't in the wiki an instruction to remove tools subdirectory? | [18:12] |
| DicePower: | Can't find "tool" anywhere in the guide :P | [18:13] |
| DicePower: | Just delete tools from the EuloraV0.1.1/src directory? | [18:14] |
| jurov: | lemme see | [18:15] |
| jurov: | yes, remove tools/ccheck folder completely | [18:17] |
| jurov: | i swear i was in the wiki once | [18:17] |
| DicePower: | There is no EuloraV0.1.1/src/tools/ccheck folder for me. | [18:18] |
| DicePower: | There is a tools, but no ccheck within it. | [18:18] |
| jurov: | oh, then remove ccheck project from solution, too | [18:19] |
| DicePower: | kk | [18:19] |
| DicePower: | Removed ccheck.cpp and ccheck.h | [18:20] |
| DicePower: | Rebuilding | [18:20] |
| DicePower: | http://dpaste.com/2AWP7WK Now it can't open libcrystalspace.lib. | [18:23] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: dpaste: 2AWP7WK (at dpaste.com) | [18:23] |
| jurov: | um | [18:26] |
| jurov: | looking | [18:26] |
| DicePower: | I'm guessing that these types of errors should be debugged before trying to manually build each dependency. | [18:27] |
| DicePower: | Since they're fatal errors, so presumably just halting the program's execution prematurely. | [18:28] |
| DicePower: | Just my thinking | [18:28] |
| DicePower: | Could be the other way around though | [18:28] |
| jurov: | it's fatal C linker error, can't find crystalspace library | [18:29] |
| jurov: | i'm looking into my setup... | [18:30] |
| DicePower: | kk | [18:30] |
| jurov: | Well. On Properties tab, click empty space under the list and select properties | [18:38] |
| jurov: | then in the tree go to Configuration Properties/Linker/General | [18:39] |
| DicePower: | For appcheck's Property Page? | [18:40] |
| jurov: | no, scroll down and right click the empty space | [18:40] |
| jurov: | to set global properties (yes, msvs is so retarded) | [18:40] |
| DicePower: | It just takes me to the property page of the last project I highlighted. | [18:42] |
| jurov: | whatever, there should be "Additional Library Directories" value | [18:43] |
| jurov: | pointing to CS and cs-winlibs folders | [18:43] |
| jurov: | you should make sure that all .lib files are found in these paths | [18:44] |
| DicePower: | in appcheck or global? | [18:47] |
| jurov: | all should have the same setting | [18:47] |
| DicePower: | kk | [18:47] |
| jurov: | best if global, all have the same setting but but i forgot how to set linker globally | [18:48] |
| DicePower: | I'll try restarting MSVS | [18:48] |
| jurov: | why? | [18:48] |
| DicePower: | To try to get to global properties. | [18:49] |
| DicePower: | I can get to the solution (wkspstypical) property page now, is that the global? | [18:50] |
| jurov: | no, looks like there are noned, each project has their own | [18:50] |
| DicePower: | kk | [18:50] |
| jurov: | and the solution has no linker properties | [18:51] |
| jurov: | so, check for example apppsclient project | [18:51] |
| DicePower: | true | [18:51] |
| jurov: | do you see the "additional library directories"? | [18:51] |
| DicePower: | Yeah | [18:52] |
| DicePower: | It's value is http://dpaste.com/1EZTTE8 | [18:52] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: dpaste: 1EZTTE8 (at dpaste.com) | [18:52] |
| jurov: | so, you see the linker expects the crystalspace.lib to be there somewhere | [18:52] |
| DicePower: | kk | [18:53] |
| jurov: | so check whether CRYSTAL is set and after it was compiled, the file should be there in proper subdirectory | [18:54] |
| DicePower: | CRYSTAL is set to cs-forupload folder | [18:55] |
| jurov: | yep. so check CRYSTAL\out\release10\libs | [18:57] |
| DicePower: | There is a cs-forupload/scripts/packaging/0install/crystalspace-libs-2.1 | [18:58] |
| DicePower: | There is no releaset10 in /out | [18:58] |
| DicePower: | "release10" | [18:59] |
| DicePower: | There is a debug10 | [18:59] |
| DicePower: | But there there is no debug10/libs/crystalspace.lib | [18:59] |
| jurov: | ok, i'm retrying it here | [19:03] |
| DicePower: | kk | [19:03] |
| jurov: | well, I compiled crystalspace with "ReleaseWithDLLs" configuraiton and it did create .lib files in \out\release10\libs | [19:06] |
| jurov: | ( is the environment variable, in your case cs-forupload) | [19:07] |
| DicePower: | Okay I'll try compiling CS again | [19:07] |
| DicePower: | It's probably because I didn't change it to release with DLLs the first time. | [19:08] |
| DicePower: | Left it on default Debug with DLLs | [19:08] |
| jurov: | pls change it | [19:10] |
| jurov: | or move the files by hand | [19:10] |
| DicePower: | kk, it's rebuilding now under release | [19:10] |
| DicePower: | AFK a bit while this builds | [19:13] |
| DicePower: | Got the file :D | [19:41] |
| DicePower: | Okay, it did update the linker it appears | [19:47] |
| DicePower: | Wow, keep getting errors but none of the ones we anticipated to be getting :P | [19:49] |
| DicePower: | 2>LINK : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _mainCRTStartup 2>..\..\ccheck.exe : fatal error LNK1120: 1 unresolved externals http://dpaste.com/2W04S0M | [19:51] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: dpaste: 2W04S0M (at dpaste.com) | [19:51] |
| DicePower: | oh | [19:51] |
| DicePower: | That's the one from before or similar | [19:51] |
| jurov: | yes | [19:52] |
| jurov: | don't build whole solution, only the apppsclient project | [19:52] |
| DicePower: | It's chugging away now. Best progress so far. | [20:02] |
| DicePower: | 8 succeeded 2 failed | [20:03] |
| DicePower: | http://dpaste.com/2XDR7FK | [20:06] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: dpaste: 2XDR7FK (at dpaste.com) | [20:06] |
| jurov: | can you switch that to non-debug release, too? | [20:09] |
| DicePower: | appsclient? | [20:09] |
| DicePower: | yeah | [20:09] |
| jurov: | i have here ReleaseWithDLLs | [20:10] |
| jurov: | i remember i tried debug too, but it needs additional files, hard to set up | [20:11] |
| DicePower: | You use that for everything you build during the entire process? | [20:11] |
| DicePower: | The ReleaseWithDLLs I mean | [20:11] |
| jurov: | yes. i select it on the main toolbar and build apppsclient | [20:11] |
| DicePower: | kk | [20:12] |
| DicePower: | It built for me a EuloraV0.1.1/out/release10 folder, but it can't find the file it needs in that folder either. | [20:18] |
| DicePower: | out/release10/libs/libgui.lib | [20:18] |
| DicePower: | And I don't see the file there either. | [20:19] |
| jurov: | what happens if you build libgui extra? | [20:21] |
| DicePower: | Select both in navigation tree and rebuild them together? | [20:23] |
| jurov: | first libgui, then retry psclient | [20:23] |
| DicePower: | k | [20:23] |
| DicePower: | libgui doesn't build | [20:27] |
| DicePower: | dpaste.com/1KP473C | [20:28] |
| jurov: | ok. unfold the project and remove pawsconfigshortcut.cpp from it | [20:31] |
| jurov: | and add some file as per wiki | [20:31] |
| jurov: | point 10 | [20:32] |
| DicePower: | k | [20:32] |
| jurov: | DicePower: going off, good luck | [20:44] |
| DicePower: | ty, have a good one | [20:44] |
| DicePower: | Now to test my newly found build debugging skills lol | [20:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol having fun ? | [21:15] |
| DicePower: | lol | [21:21] |
| DicePower: | Having a few bumps but at least I'm on step 10 or 12 :P | [21:21] |
| DicePower: | Psychologically almost there | [21:21] |
| DicePower: | I have a bunch of notes on this whole process. Once I get it working I'm wondering if I will be able to "translate" the process into Eclipse. | [21:23] |
| DicePower: | Then could have the code available on both Windows and Linux :D | [21:24] |
| DicePower: | Maybe I'll give it a shot on OpenIndiana while I'm at it. >___> | [21:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | no idea whart that is tho | [21:37] |
| DicePower: | The free version of Solaris! | [21:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh wow. | [22:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | you run that ? | [22:17] |
| DicePower: | Not yet :P | [23:38] |
| DicePower: | I did allocate 33\% of my HD space to Linux, in anticipation of adding 1 more OS to the machine someday. | [23:38] |
| DicePower: | Could either try a non-Debian Linux, like Gentoo/Fedora/etc. | [23:40] |
| DicePower: | Or try something outside of Linux | [23:40] |
| DicePower: | I saw that FreeBSD is getting a guide soon for Eulora. | [23:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | mebbe yeah. | [23:42] |
| DicePower: | I think the little devil dude, while would make a cute plushie, gives off that "malicious software" vibe a bit too much to be comfortable on an OS. :P | [23:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [23:43] |
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