#eulora Logs for 12 Feb 2016

February 12th, 2016 by Diana Coman
mircea_popescu: DicePower http://dpaste.com/3PPAYPG.txt [00:01]
DicePower: Okay, I have that, and I have something assbot linked me. [00:03]
mircea_popescu: decrypt them [00:04]
DicePower: The OTP won't decrypt [00:12]
DicePower: It just says decryption failed. [00:13]
mircea_popescu: that's not a very useful error message. [00:13]
DicePower: "Decryption failed: Decryption failed." [00:13]
DicePower: lol [00:13]
mircea_popescu: that's nice o.O [00:14]
mircea_popescu: does that thing have a command line ? [00:14]
DicePower: I just saved the block in Notepad with a .gpg extension, right-clicked the file and did "Decrypt and verify." [00:16]
hanbot: DicePower a common problem is missing some of the dashes on the begin and end message lines, might be worth a twice-over [00:16]
hanbot: oh. [00:16]
mircea_popescu: save it with an .asc extension iirc [00:16]
DicePower: Did the same with the dpaste, and that one I eventually got decoded. [00:16]
DicePower: kk [00:16]
DicePower: Same result [00:17]
DicePower: Would "Input file is a detached signature" or "Input file is an archive; unpack with..." apply to this block? [00:18]
mircea_popescu: well so if you got the dpaste decoded you can now play [00:18]
mircea_popescu: nah, it's neither. [00:18]
DicePower: Okay, what is the one time pad for? [00:18]
mircea_popescu: you say !v timepad at assbot in pm and it voices you [00:18]
DicePower: ahh okay [00:18]
mircea_popescu: but the first one is needed so it verifies you own that gpg signature [00:19]
DicePower: Interestingly there is no line for "Version:..." in the OTP [00:21]
DicePower: Dunno if that's throwing things off. [00:21]
DicePower: So the file you gave me has a password. Is the email address the email I used to create the initial keys? [00:24]
mircea_popescu: what file and what ? [00:24]
mircea_popescu: you don't need an email, just use the name. [00:24]
DicePower: Ohhh okay, it says in the game client "your@email.here" for the account name heh. [00:25]
DicePower: Got confused. [00:25]
DicePower: Okay, off to bed, thank you for all the help [00:27]
mircea_popescu: cheerios. [00:27]
mircea_popescu: DianaComan do you know ddl recipe ? tm ? [00:33]
DianaComan: <mircea_popescu> DianaComan do you know ddl recipe ? tm ? <- yes, they were just not yet in the cookbook for lack of an update. Updated now with ddl, tm, cs [05:17]
DianaComan: and mcsot aka the confused scribblings on tinkering which has base value ~44k it turns out [05:19]
DianaComan: more than a dreamcoat, ha [05:20]
mircea_popescu: ahh this is nice, go to bed, leave 43 ddl craft going, come back, 2 left to do [08:11]
DianaComan: wowza, got any golden laddles or something? [08:14]
mircea_popescu: hm ? [08:14]
mircea_popescu: o i got various ladle handles yeah [08:14]
DianaComan: whatever is the highest thing from cooking I meant [08:14]
mircea_popescu: just looked but nope. just girl bellybutton lint and the sticks. [08:15]
mircea_popescu: anyway. gonna make some so and dig up that remarkable already. jesus just the preparations were half a week and i had most of the stuff to begin with! [08:15]
DianaComan: aha, not surprised as it's a monster thing, but curious whether you get some mn grass out of it or more [08:16]
mircea_popescu: 1mn grass ? at my q that'd be like .12 bn worth of loot! [08:17]
DianaComan: ahhh, you have high q on grass, right [08:17]
mircea_popescu: i'd be happy with mid to high six figures honestly [08:17]
DianaComan: and then another week to make it into cft? :D [08:17]
DianaComan: I went to lunch and left it digging up flotsam so now I have to go and put it all together [08:18]
mircea_popescu: something like 1mn grass would take me about 3 months i fear. [08:18]
DianaComan: so 500k -> 1.5months?? [08:19]
mircea_popescu: i guess so. [08:19]
mircea_popescu: iirc i do ~10k/day [08:19]
DianaComan: 627 flotsam 179q from 424 hits with a basic hoe [08:31]
mircea_popescu: kinda meh [08:31]
DianaComan: yeah, precisely meh - seen better, seen worse [08:32]
mircea_popescu: DianaComan btw, leather ? [08:41]
DianaComan: I'll check when back in town [08:42]
mircea_popescu: kk [08:42]
mircea_popescu: if you hafta check i know you can't have enough [08:42]
mircea_popescu: i want stacks of the shit. [08:42]
DianaComan: I don't think it can ever be enough, lol [08:43]
DianaComan: thing is: I also need tools, [08:43]
mircea_popescu: never never be enough [08:43]
DianaComan: hence I need to make sure I supply the resources for that chain too [08:43]
DianaComan: since I don't see anyone doing that [08:43]
DianaComan: and tbh the bottleneck is on wm, hmmmm? [08:44]
DianaComan: so mr lumberjack trade some shrooms for some leather? [08:44]
mircea_popescu: but i sold all mah shrooms! [08:45]
DianaComan: heh, so get more? [08:46]
mircea_popescu: and furthermore there's no fucking way you wore down all teh tools i sold ya ?! [08:46]
DianaComan: oh, but I did [08:46]
DianaComan: lol [08:46]
mircea_popescu: and further-furthermore, i think daniel is ahead of me in lj [08:46]
mircea_popescu: seeing how i was stuck here by a hot stove since fucking november [08:46]
DianaComan: what did you sell me, some meagre pile of pickaxes [08:46]
DianaComan: is he? [08:46]
DianaComan: danielpbarron, what q shrooms are you getting? selling any? [08:46]
DianaComan: I can get low q shrooms no trouble, but then I have to supply noobs to make me low q bottles too etc [08:47]
DianaComan: so have to keep that line on the side too [08:47]
DianaComan: I think I even sold you back some pile of worn out pickaxes, haven't I? [08:48]
mircea_popescu: DianaComan here's the plan : chettystick flotsam and sr ; get noobs to mine them. make IBS. get noobs to lft them. get low wm and bring it to me, i have everything else in stock will make io. can then shape the io and ill make tools. [08:48]
DianaComan: and I should have another [08:48]
mircea_popescu: and none of this works because no bps, but anyway [08:48]
DianaComan: sr takes ST!!!! [08:48]
mircea_popescu: darn [08:48]
DianaComan: I gave them smalls [08:48]
mircea_popescu: best laid out plans... [08:48]
DianaComan: for that reason precisely [08:48]
DianaComan: heh, you think I haven't already gone through all that? [08:49]
mircea_popescu: :) [08:49]
mircea_popescu: i know you have lol. [08:49]
DianaComan: yeah, lol [08:49]
DianaComan: anyway, it just slows down everything basically, but such is euloran life :p [08:49]
mircea_popescu: what it ? [08:49]
DianaComan: this thing that I have to keep on the side the tools line too [08:50]
mircea_popescu: aha. [08:50]
DianaComan: otherwise I'd gladly do just mining + farming day+night respectively [08:50]
mircea_popescu: tools go like crazee. a problem exacerbated by the fact that i dropped 25\% in q, so i make shittier durability for the same effort [08:50]
DianaComan: aha [08:50]
DianaComan: and now add on top the bp trouble [08:51]
mircea_popescu: that i doubt we even fully comprehend yet. [08:51]
DianaComan: I'm sure I don't [08:51]
mircea_popescu: i mean... i used most of my tm recipes on this run. [08:51]
DianaComan: silly chef :p [08:51]
mircea_popescu: no tm, no tools. no screens no nothing [08:51]
mircea_popescu: what am i to do, look at them ? [08:51]
DianaComan: no, make them into useful things such as screens and tools and the like [08:52]
DianaComan: not bloody remarkable vanity-building :p [08:52]
mircea_popescu: and the other bitch is that danielpbarron wants teas, and those take oodles of wm [08:52]
mircea_popescu: DianaComan i have enough for both, really. [08:52]
DianaComan: well, that he will supply if he wants them [08:52]
mircea_popescu: o shit. I HAVE SCREEN BPS [08:52]
mircea_popescu: omfg! why didn't i do more noob crafting ;/ [08:52]
mircea_popescu: those are worth 1mn each easy aren't they! [08:52]
DianaComan: aha, know that feeling (why the fuck haven't I done a few shitty wheels with nooobs) [08:53]
mircea_popescu: you know ? [08:53]
mircea_popescu: damn. [08:53]
mircea_popescu: dude how does this game manage to make me regret something every quarter. [08:53]
mircea_popescu: never did that before in lyf! [08:53]
DianaComan: bwahaaha [08:53]
DianaComan: new experiences abound :))) [08:54]
mircea_popescu: a few months ago it was all "oh why didn't i do more lj!" [08:54]
mircea_popescu: back when i was getting q 200 consistently [08:54]
mircea_popescu: but you can't fucking do everything ;/ [08:54]
DianaComan: yeah, I already know upfront that there will always be at least something I should have done more of [08:54]
mircea_popescu: it's maddening [08:54]
mircea_popescu: DianaComan anyway, a remarkable grass only takes 7 so ; compared to 5 in a us. [08:56]
mircea_popescu: or no wait, it was 3 in a us iirc. [08:56]
DianaComan: http://dianacoman.com/Eulora/Unsteady-Scaffolding.html [08:56]
DianaComan: 3 [08:56]
mircea_popescu: ya [08:56]
DianaComan: and 3 st [08:57]
mircea_popescu: myeah. well... mollusc cheese also takes st. [08:57]
DianaComan: therefore [08:57]
DianaComan: yeah, ouch [08:57]
mircea_popescu: so it's really 3 + 3 [08:57]
DianaComan: uhm, wait [08:57]
DianaComan: shouldn't be or my script is wrong, lol [08:58]
mircea_popescu: hm [08:58]
DianaComan: no, it's only the cheese taking 3 [08:58]
DianaComan: 1 each [08:58]
mircea_popescu: ah no script is right [08:58]
DianaComan: 3 cheez [08:58]
DianaComan: yep [08:58]
DianaComan: 3 in total [08:58]
mircea_popescu: nice thing that bill. [08:58]
mircea_popescu: totally make a graph. [08:58]
DianaComan: I find it amazingly useful and can't think why I postponed making it for so long, lol [08:58]
mircea_popescu: tell you what : make a complete graph of all the crafts in eulora using the 3 letter callsigns, ima give you a PB q = item count. [08:59]
DianaComan: ha [08:59]
mircea_popescu: :) [08:59]
DianaComan: it uses now really initials of each word in the name [09:00]
mircea_popescu: but make it svg ideally. [09:00]
mircea_popescu: that's good. [09:00]
DianaComan: but switched pages to full name because there were clashes [09:00]
DianaComan: and obv if there are some already, it can only get worse [09:00]
mircea_popescu: i wanna find those. which are they ? ima fix them in future. [09:00]
DianaComan: well, tuber milk and treebark mockasillies [09:00]
DianaComan: for one [09:00]
mircea_popescu: noted. [09:00]
mircea_popescu: mno. TBM / TM [09:01]
DianaComan: how is that? [09:01]
DianaComan: lol [09:01]
DianaComan: why tbm? [09:01]
mircea_popescu: uh. i see the problem ;/ [09:01]
mircea_popescu: Tree Bark ? [09:01]
DianaComan: bah, so then yes, make it tree bark :))) [09:01]
DianaComan: barking at the wrong tree or something [09:01]
DianaComan: and mocka sillies prolly [09:01]
mircea_popescu: lol [09:02]
mircea_popescu: TMS ? prolly better huh. [09:02]
DianaComan: sounds better :))) [09:02]
mircea_popescu: yeah. Treebark Mocka-Sillies. [09:02]
DianaComan: :))) [09:02]
mircea_popescu: hey, how's life sueastside [09:03]
mircea_popescu: DianaComan put it in my list of future updates, right under the entry for "Rigid Bigiri Beam" [09:04]
mircea_popescu: is planning a 2nd enlargement of the item base :) [09:04]
DianaComan: lol, that sounds better as brigid bigiri beam if not frigid bigiri beam [09:05]
mircea_popescu: digiridoo! [09:05]
DianaComan: or that :))) [09:05]
mircea_popescu: copy hey, you ever got the game running ? [09:11]
jurov: btw when someone complains about my binaries and i'm not around, ask them to leave log/screenshot [09:49]
mircea_popescu: good point. [09:50]
DianaComan: jurov, looking back at it, I think the trouble is in fact that perhaps they don't have the env vars set [09:51]
DianaComan: maybe add the steps exactly? [09:51]
jurov: both versions have simple .bat or .sh file where the environment variables are set [09:52]
DianaComan: I think the most usual complaint was that they got an error on crystalspace.so not found, which is probably just due to CRYSTAL var not set, isn't it? (not sure on windows stuff) [09:52]
DianaComan: oh, but they prolly just rush into running the exe? [09:52]
DianaComan: didn't know there was a .bat [09:52]
jurov: maybe [09:52]
mircea_popescu: well, i never ran the win thing, but on the basis of this convo i actually have a pretty good idea what to ask of people. [09:53]
DianaComan: maybe write one line instructions: run the .bat, lol [09:53]
DianaComan: yeah, it helps for sure [09:53]
mircea_popescu: ftr i would be much surprised if the problem at any point is jurov's binaries. [09:53]
DianaComan: I don't think the problem is the binaries [09:53]
DianaComan: but I had no idea what to ask people even [09:53]
mircea_popescu: yeh [09:53]
jurov: in win package there's INSTALL.txt, just ask if they read it [09:55]
jurov: it says things like: [09:56]
jurov: RUNNING [09:56]
jurov: ======= [09:56]
jurov: Run eulora.bat ;) [09:56]
DianaComan: oh, cool then [09:56]
DianaComan: I'm selling 1 hammer (52q, unknown base value) - skill item giving Mining skill - price is 2mn; anyone interested? [10:25]
mircea_popescu: eh why the hell not. gimme. [10:50]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman ^ [10:51]
diana_coman: heh, k, on my way to town [10:51]
diana_coman: enjoy [10:53]
mircea_popescu: giggles at consumption text [10:53]
diana_coman: I kind of really like mining for some reason, lol [10:53]
diana_coman: I liked the description even better :) [10:53]
mircea_popescu: lol [10:54]
diana_coman: and re wpl indeed, no full stacks [10:54]
mircea_popescu: you ever played majesty ? [10:54]
diana_coman: I did actually ages ago [10:54]
mircea_popescu: it's after the dwarf :D [10:54]
mircea_popescu: you recall, the dwarf guy, when running away from dragon or troll or w/e, went [10:55]
mircea_popescu: "if i had my good hammer, you'd be sorry!" in this really plaintive voice [10:55]
diana_coman: ahhh, I did make the link to dwarves (kind of direct link for me re mining anyway) but did not think of majesty [10:56]
mircea_popescu: there's lots of private jokes like that buried in eulora [10:56]
diana_coman: right, my good hammer, true :)) [10:56]
mircea_popescu: i guess that's obvious huh [10:56]
diana_coman: yeah, it is [10:56]
mircea_popescu: just you wait till someone finds the mollusc cheese fleas [10:57]
mircea_popescu: and the rickety reeds knot [10:57]
diana_coman: :))) [10:57]
diana_coman: bwahahaha [10:57]
mircea_popescu: which obviously are the principal ingredients to making [10:57]
mircea_popescu: pacala essence. [10:57]
diana_coman: ahahah [10:57]
mircea_popescu: daca-i joc, joc sa fie! [10:57]
diana_coman: daca n-ai si cimpoaie din maduva de tantar [10:57]
diana_coman: tot degeaba [10:57]
mircea_popescu: we can't all be republicans from ploiesti! [10:58]
diana_coman: precum si mar pe iarba lupului :p [10:58]
diana_coman: da' iele macar.... [10:58]
mircea_popescu: ehehehe [10:58]
mircea_popescu: now where the fuck do i find someone capable of drawing, rigging and animating half a man riding half a lame rabbit, is the main question. [10:59]
mircea_popescu: because THAT totally has to be in there. [10:59]
diana_coman: yessss [10:59]
mircea_popescu: possibly the best fantastic creature in folklore history [11:00]
diana_coman: I was trying to remember the illustrations from childhood books, but there is only one coming readily to mind and I'm not convinced it's really great [11:01]
diana_coman: not sure who was the illustrator anyway, I'd have to check [11:01]
mircea_popescu: yeah concept was never done justice. [11:02]
diana_coman: brrr, don't search for images on google as they are horribly ugly [11:05]
diana_coman: drawn by the lame rabbit with his lamest paw or something [11:06]
mircea_popescu: aww [11:06]
diana_coman: ahhh, I remember this one https://ultimulunicorn.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/aleodor.jpg?w=500 [11:07]
diana_coman: although not really the concept I'd say [11:08]
diana_coman: kind of taking the easy way out [11:08]
diana_coman: oh dang, got 9 small wm in a row and then a remarkable [11:10]
mircea_popescu: yeah nonsense. [11:10]
mircea_popescu: wow nice., what's wm remarkable take ? [11:10]
diana_coman: the fucking double distillates [11:10]
diana_coman: I already have 1 other wm remarkable from ages ago [11:10]
mircea_popescu: ae [11:10]
diana_coman: + 25 canines, just for good measure [11:11]
diana_coman: anywya [11:11]
diana_coman: 38 molluscs don't even count as heavy anymore :)))) [11:11]
mircea_popescu: lol [11:11]
danielpbarron: DianaComan> danielpbarron, what q shrooms are you getting? selling any? << still under q100 and I'm not really pricing them to move seeing as how I have use for them myself [11:18]
danielpbarron: DianaComan> I'm selling 1 hammer (52q, unknown base value) - skill item giving Mining skill - price is 2mn; anyone interested? << got another for sale? I'll buy [11:24]
diana_coman: hm, I might let go of another one some days later; or atm I'd let go of one in exchange for one of the scones I suppose (lj) [11:49]
sueastside: mircea_popescu: It's anal rape by elephant's trunk-tastic, how are you doing? [11:57]
mircea_popescu: pretty great, myself. [13:02]
danielpbarron: oo hello there! [14:13]
amirgames: hey :) [14:13]
danielpbarron: heh, Mircea is uncharacteristically absent due to a recent ping timeout [14:14]
amirgames: np, I'm just checking out fast [14:14]
danielpbarron: hey have you ever heard of PGP ? [14:15]
amirgames: so how to check eluora? [14:15]
amirgames: nope [14:15]
danielpbarron: in order to get an account to play, you need a PGP key registered in our Web of Trust [14:16]
danielpbarron: what operating system do you use? [14:17]
amirgames: windows [14:17]
danielpbarron: http://logs.minigame.bz/2016-02-10.log.html#t04:40:34 << just recently we helped a guy get a key on windows [14:18]
danielpbarron: http://logs.minigame.bz/2016-02-12.log.html#t02:17:07 << and continued here [14:19]
amirgames: ob bookmarked for later [14:19]
amirgames: ok* [14:19]
danielpbarron: sweet [14:19]
amirgames: I should go now, will be back later [14:22]
amirgames: nice meeting you, cya [14:22]
danielpbarron: okie, thanks for stopping by [14:22]
Birdman: If i didnt want to level up my gathering i'd never do cs work like this [19:03]
Birdman: I cant imagine noobs wanting to do it [19:05]
mircea_popescu: awww missed the pod guy ? [19:49]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman if i pass you the so will you make me us ? [20:36]
amirgames: hello [21:45]
danielpbarron: oh hey! mircea_popescu is here this time! [21:45]
amirgames: hey daniel [21:45]
amirgames: good, though to check before sleep :) [21:46]
amirgames: it seems u guys are busy [21:55]
danielpbarron: be patient, I think he'll be around within the hour [21:58]
danielpbarron: anyway, have you had a look at any of the Eulora documention? [21:58]
danielpbarron: I'm in charge of some of the social media accounts; you can find pictures and videos of the game [21:59]
danielpbarron: https://twitter.com/eulorian/media [21:59]
amirgames: nope I haven't, it was a long day today [21:59]
danielpbarron: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEgelTQ0KJYS5CJdGEyU2QA [22:01]
amirgames: well, I need some sleep, I will check back later [22:21]
danielpbarron: alright, keep checking in I'm sure schedules will align at some point! [22:22]
amirgames: cya daniel and say hi to mircea pls [22:22]
danielpbarron: will do [22:22]
mircea_popescu: hey there amir [22:41]
mircea_popescu: doh [22:41]
mircea_popescu: points go to the dpb, master of evaluations. within the hour he says. [22:41]
danielpbarron: heh [22:44]

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