#eulora Logs for 22 Nov 2015



November 22nd, 2015 by Diana Coman
diana_coman: mod6 this one first: http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/09/30/foxys-little-bots/ [02:24]
diana_coman: then directly http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/11/16/foxybots-v1-2/ [02:24]
diana_coman: just get the foxybots folder from this second one [02:24]
diana_coman: only after that compile and then good to go [02:24]
diana_coman: the one you got now was probably for the older version of server hence no connect [02:25]
diana_coman: ouch, a whole night lost, great [02:25]
diana_coman: <mircea_popescu> all stacks affected have been reduced by a formula that's basically floor (old * proportion) + 1 <- so I had 81 csw at 184q and now I have ...9? is that right? [04:22]
diana_coman: just calculated the new/old base values for the csw and yes, it seems actually better as value indeed 81*1.84*1216 < 9*1.84*13499 if I got the new base value right [08:27]
mircea_popescu: aha [08:43]
mircea_popescu: old csw was 1433 iirc. [08:44]
diana_coman: aha, that makes it closer though still old < new ; I had it in some old list with 1216 but that could be some confusion due to the storage values again I suppose, no idea even when I wrote that down as such [08:51]
mircea_popescu: opriginally it was that, but then the recipe got changed to take out the bms [09:01]
danielpbarron: diana_coman, I'll buy all of your lotus harlot, two leaf clover, and wooly mushroom [09:53]
diana_coman: danielpbarron I'll auction then some of those later this evening, in about 5hrs from now, since they are both a huge pain/loss to get AND needed in large quantities by at least you + mircea_popescu + me [10:05]
mircea_popescu: what, all ?! [10:05]
danielpbarron: you have them listed in your store with a price.. [10:07]
diana_coman: yes, need to update that, sorry; things seem to change much faster than I can update the page atm; for another thing I need to update now the ae too, sigh [10:07]
danielpbarron: also, is the crumbly rock location public yet? [10:08]
diana_coman: I know it, jurov knows it [10:08]
danielpbarron: would like to know it [10:08]
diana_coman: or more precisley: I found it, jurov knows it, lol [10:08]
diana_coman: aha, I'll follow your example on the location of the tlc then and I'll sell the location, sure [10:09]
diana_coman: gotta go right now, so will put that on the table in the evening too, no problem [10:09]
danielpbarron: ok let me know a price, and then jurov can underbid if he'd like [10:10]
diana_coman: much simpler than that: I'll split the sum in half with jurov [10:11]
diana_coman: I'm not competing with him for your sake [10:11]
jurov: haha [10:26]
jurov: it's public for anyone who goes around and looks on the claims [10:26]
jurov: diana_coman: what about splitting 1M? [10:28]
mircea_popescu: lol gotta add a recipe for mortars and assault rifles. [10:29]
mircea_popescu: anyone buying ppb ? [10:29]
diana_coman: jurov are there still any claims? [11:55]
diana_coman: I don't think I left any still standing [11:55]
diana_coman: and that sounds fine with me (I'm back earlier than I thought, yay!) [11:55]
jurov: i have not looked, you mined everything? [11:55]
diana_coman: yep [11:55]
jurov: aok [11:55]
diana_coman: long time ago, part of the project "let's mine all ordinaries" [11:56]
jurov: should have said, i'd gave you mine.. they are prolly gonna rot out [11:57]
diana_coman: if I can build them, I'll buy them really, what do you have? [11:59]
jurov: flotsam and sr [12:02]
diana_coman: ouch [12:12]
diana_coman: flotsam requires snakeskins [12:13]
diana_coman: and sr slithy toves which are (again!) kind of missing [12:13]
diana_coman: for this reason I still have my ordinaries of those two :( [12:13]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman bonus points : cheese takes st too! [12:19]
diana_coman: ugh, maybe I should get that first prize then [12:20]
diana_coman: sighs [12:20]
mircea_popescu: find something!1 [12:27]
diana_coman: yeah, I am adapting the bloody bot, but that's not even half of the story, seeing how it's not enough to even just hit *once* every spot, lolz [12:28]
mircea_popescu: are you having fun yet ? :D [12:29]
diana_coman: define fun lol [12:31]
mircea_popescu: ehehehehehe [12:32]
diana_coman: so: basically gave up on updating the store, hence the newest version basically says I'm selling some rare items through auction (harlots, tlc etc) and otherwise most groceries and basics at 25\%, everything else at 30\% [12:34]
diana_coman: that might count like fun I suppose [12:34]
diana_coman: and I had such clear and crisp tables ...if only I'd get to actually update them automatically...not going to happen any time soon [12:35]
diana_coman: ffs yet ANOTHER place with harlots [12:37]
diana_coman: hate this habit of finding repeatedly new places of OLD items [12:38]
mircea_popescu: how would automatic update happen ? [12:39]
diana_coman: bot either does the trade and then goes and updates html file + another script uploads it periodically to server [12:40]
diana_coman: or bot checks periodically stores and updates file [12:40]
diana_coman: not impossible, just....tons of things ahead on the list [12:40]
diana_coman: obv that's for amount + q available, as no reason to fiddle all the time with prices really, those can be updated manually if/when needed [12:41]
danielpbarron: < jurov> diana_coman: what about splitting 1M? << i'm not willing to pay 1mn [12:48]
diana_coman: so make an offer danielpbarron [12:48]
mircea_popescu: i'd be very interested in seeing the stocks + history -> price model tbh [12:49]
diana_coman: yeah, as it is I have enough headaches on the explore part to attempt building a price model too :p [12:50]
mircea_popescu: briefly pondered this a dozen or so times to date, dropped it. [12:57]
hanbot: mircea_popescu how'd you like an order for 99 tuber teas? i have pn if needed [13:05]
mircea_popescu: lemme look [13:05]
mircea_popescu: 36 nt 7 wm 2sm 1 pn ouch [13:06]
hanbot: oi [13:06]
mircea_popescu: for one thing, i don't have 4k nt. and it conflicts with acg for the suddenly scarce nt. [13:06]
mircea_popescu: i do have wm/sm, but really it conflicts with oil, which i was going to do a bunch [13:06]
mircea_popescu: you gpt 100 pn ? [13:06]
hanbot: 98 [13:07]
mircea_popescu: what q ? [13:07]
hanbot: 52 [13:07]
mircea_popescu: could be made provided someone comes up with 3.6k LOW Q tubers. [13:07]
mircea_popescu: da fuck do you need so much of it anyway [13:08]
mircea_popescu: it's 2 samovars right there. [13:08]
hanbot: well i'll start mining lol. anyone has 'em, pls to say [13:08]
hanbot: secret ducttaping operations [13:08]
mircea_popescu: hahaha duct taping tea [13:08]
mircea_popescu: sounds just about right. [13:08]
hanbot: ;) [13:08]
mircea_popescu: do you know a spot ? [13:09]
mircea_popescu: anyway, ima go dig up some sr [13:11]
hanbot: i don't, i'm looking at maps. what, is this a known problem too? [13:11]
mircea_popescu: anyone wanna make low q ibs out of my high f/sr later ? [13:11]
mircea_popescu: hanbot it's found just i never dug it myself. [13:11]
hanbot: ah [13:12]
hanbot: if nobody chimes in for that job i'll prolly do it, depends how these tubers go [13:12]
mircea_popescu: in not-so-bad news, i am mining sr q 247 now [13:13]
hanbot: hm i don't see nt on foxymaps nor modseis' collection [13:16]
jurov: diana_coman: yes, whatever daniel offers [13:22]
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu> could be made provided someone comes up with 3.6k LOW Q tubers. << i'm on it [13:46]
danielpbarron: i can't think of any offer that i'd be willing to pay that you would also accept [13:47]
danielpbarron: so that's that for now [13:47]
danielpbarron: i will sit on my ibs for now [13:47]
danielpbarron: maybe find a crumbly rock ordinary and sell it at some mark up [13:48]
mircea_popescu: that's what ? [13:48]
danielpbarron: i want the cr location so i can get some low quality out of it [13:48]
danielpbarron: or if someone else wants to get me some low quality cr that could also work [13:49]
mod6: how low [13:49]
danielpbarron: and by low quality i mean: any quality really, but willing to sell it for a little over base [13:49]
mircea_popescu: i currently have no cr at all [13:49]
danielpbarron: i have 1.2k at 170ish [13:49]
mircea_popescu: but as i'm currently backed up with stuff to do i'll bitch more once i clear the glut [13:50]
danielpbarron: you know where the cr even is? [13:50]
mircea_popescu: nope [13:51]
mircea_popescu: btw, selling another 10k lbn at 67 ea. (ftr it's 29 for the tool decay and 48 for the recipes, mostly because they are a bitch to get.) [13:51]
danielpbarron: diana_coman and jurov could probably work together to make a big stack of crumbly [13:52]
mircea_popescu: i'd buy 10k np [13:52]
danielpbarron: me too depending on what they want for it [13:52]
danielpbarron: i'd pay 1.1x base [13:52]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu hanbot pacademia nuts are found actually [13:53]
hanbot: sure. problem atm is tubers. [13:53]
danielpbarron: i can get tubers [13:54]
hanbot: low q? [13:54]
danielpbarron: ya [13:54]
mircea_popescu: well, problem for tea is tubers, anywya [13:54]
danielpbarron: i currently have over 6k tubers at high quality :D [13:54]
diana_coman: oh, they are found too, 305 -341 [13:54]
diana_coman: for tubers [13:54]
hanbot: danielpbarron, how much've you got? how much dyou want for em? [13:55]
diana_coman: the side of the hill [13:55]
mircea_popescu: problem for making oil/shaped slag/samovars is getting enough ibs. [13:55]
hanbot: ty diana_coman [13:55]
danielpbarron: my tubers are not for sale at the moment [13:55]
danielpbarron: i have a little under 3k ibs that i want to make into flasks, but i need similar quality goop, and for that i want low quality cr [13:56]
danielpbarron: the end result is lots of low quality flasks that should go well with those low quality shrooms [13:56]
mircea_popescu: i actually got some low q goop. don't you also need low q thread ? [13:58]
danielpbarron: how low is low [13:59]
mircea_popescu: how about i go to town and look one sec [13:59]
danielpbarron: need about 150 [13:59]
mircea_popescu: wait, you want low q goop or high q goop ? [13:59]
danielpbarron: medium i guess [13:59]
mircea_popescu: ahahaha! why ? [13:59]
danielpbarron: because reasons [14:00]
mircea_popescu: do you also want cft ? [14:00]
danielpbarron: i think i have suitable cft already [14:00]
danielpbarron: unless you specifically have 140 quality cft [14:00]
mircea_popescu: got 200 goop q 71 and 34 goop q 202 [14:01]
danielpbarron: that would be good if i also had similar quality ibs [14:02]
mircea_popescu: i thought you were making ibs [14:04]
danielpbarron: i have ibs already [14:04]
mircea_popescu: well what q is it ? [14:04]
danielpbarron: 142 [14:04]
mircea_popescu: heh. so you want this to be high q and be crafted by a noob? then you sitll want high goop/thread [14:04]
danielpbarron: not if i have to pay 2*1.5*base for it [14:05]
danielpbarron: err.. 2*1.25*base [14:05]
danielpbarron: i can make the goop for a profit myself, on top of having a noob overcraft it [14:06]
mircea_popescu: aha [14:06]
mircea_popescu: somehow this still doesn't make sense to me. seems like two different things are mixed together. [14:07]
danielpbarron: but all this profit doesn't really justify paying however many copper jurov/diana want for the knowledge of the crumbly rocks [14:07]
jurov: danielpbarron: not even 1 copper? [14:07]
danielpbarron: i could maybe see paying 100k [14:07]
mircea_popescu: so, let's say noob makes q 10, and you have the option of either making q 110 precursor yourself or buy q 210 precursor. [14:07]
danielpbarron: i can make q 142 though [14:08]
mircea_popescu: if you pay 1.25\% for the bought stuff, your noob will be overcrafting 200 points for which he paid 250 points each click. [14:08]
mircea_popescu: if you make it yourself and sell it at 125\%, your noob will be overcrafting 100 and paying 125 points each click. or 200/250 each OTHER click. so he just goes slower [14:08]
jurov: danielpbarron: i'm okay with it [14:08]
mircea_popescu: or do you actually charge less than 125\% ? [14:08]
mod6: diana_coman: foxybot werks! [14:09]
hanbot: say diana_coman you wouldn't've mixed up the negative on the nt spot woudlja've? wwb and rr here @ 305 -341 [14:09]
danielpbarron: there should be a locked ordinary there, hanbot [14:09]
hanbot: oic. ty [14:10]
mod6: wow, this is slick [14:11]
mod6: does he just /die when out of health? [14:12]
mircea_popescu: aha [14:12]
danielpbarron: mod6, wanna do some mining with me? [14:12]
mod6: yeah, got about an hour. [14:13]
mod6: one of these days I gotta get a new box so I can just let this guy go to work and leave [14:14]
mircea_popescu: hehe [14:16]
diana_coman: hanbot depends what is x and what is z for you I suppose, no ? [14:30]
diana_coman: mod6 yay! [14:30]
mircea_popescu: o look at that, 6 people on! [14:31]
diana_coman: hanbot there are wwb too around, but here some precise coords from logs: Cruddy Hoe,304.89,47.58,-348.91,Tiny Nondescript Tubers Exploration Marker ,1 [14:32]
diana_coman: what a difference 7 points on the z coord make, huh [14:32]
diana_coman: danielpbarron> i could maybe see paying 100k <- I'm ok with that too [14:35]
mod6: < diana_coman> mod6 yay! << \o/ [14:37]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron so do you want high q rotten fruit to make your goop ? [14:40]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, danielpbarron, anyone else interested: for sale by open auction here: 120 lotus harlots at 158q and 40 two-leaf clover at 159q; will start at 1500 ea for harlots and 2500 ea for clover [14:58]
mircea_popescu: simultaneous auction ? [14:58]
diana_coman: not sure what is simultaneous auction? each package separate, but yeah, not going to go on two separate auctions for that [14:59]
mircea_popescu: anyway, 300k for the lot. [14:59]
diana_coman: works like that too, sure [14:59]
diana_coman: heard that, will give some time to danielpbarron too [15:00]
mod6: oh hey, this bot has the auto-locate feature too right? [15:13]
diana_coman: yes, /pilot [15:13]
mod6: too cool! [15:13]
diana_coman: :) enjoy! [15:14]
danielpbarron: diana_coman, 310k for the lot [15:17]
diana_coman: 310k heard danielpbarron mircea_popescu [15:17]
danielpbarron: there's gotta be a way to bring this price down in the future though [15:29]
diana_coman: danielpbarron you realise that there is no huge markup there really, do you? [15:34]
danielpbarron: it's 1.5x [15:35]
jurov: lol it's obama's face behind the ghost? [15:35]
danielpbarron: jurov, ya [15:35]
mircea_popescu: he can have it. [15:46]
diana_coman: kk, danielpbarron, you in town? [15:49]
danielpbarron: ya [15:49]
danielpbarron: ready when you are [15:49]
diana_coman: 1 min to take out [15:49]
diana_coman: thanks [15:50]
danielpbarron: yw [15:50]
diana_coman: as for it going down, dunno, guess maybe lots of noobs around hence heaps of low q tlc for instance? [15:51]
danielpbarron: i specifically want high q [15:51]
chetty: [15:52]
chetty: [15:52]
chetty: [15:52]
danielpbarron: did wyrdmantis ever make a character? [15:52]
chetty: <jurov> lol it' [15:52]
mircea_popescu: ?! [15:52]
diana_coman: chetty? [15:52]
chetty: s obama's face behind the ghost?/// the devil for sure :P [15:52]
mircea_popescu: lol [15:53]
chetty: yo,srry for bad paste [15:53]
danielpbarron: well cool, now i can build some spicy moss ordinaries [15:54]
danielpbarron: will see how profitable that is, and then i might want to buy some chetty sticks [15:54]
diana_coman: I could use a noob to make me more bps for sticks really [15:58]
diana_coman: and on a side note, if you find 1.5 huge for tlc, note that toothpaste (needed for sticks) has it 1.42 or somewhere there and lbn (needed for mining) is... what already more than 1.7? [16:00]
danielpbarron: isn't the one paying so much for those things [16:01]
danielpbarron: anyway i could probably whip up some blueprints for chetty sticks [16:02]
diana_coman: are you selling bps for sticks? [16:05]
danielpbarron: not yet [16:05]
danielpbarron: i put it on my todo [16:05]
diana_coman: not paying that much for toothpaste sure - also not having sticks [16:06]
danielpbarron: well who has been making the toothpaste? [16:06]
diana_coman: mp [16:06]
danielpbarron: so then that's why so expensive [16:06]
diana_coman: lolz, what's the alternative? using crappy toothpaste? [16:07]
danielpbarron: what's so bad about that? [16:07]
diana_coman: you'd need to undercraft the whole thing then and atm I don't really see all those resources - I even offered some packages for someone to craft me ppb and toothpaste low q [16:08]
diana_coman: and there was...nobody wanting to do that [16:08]
diana_coman: so low q toothpaste is good only if everything else is low q too, not just like that on its own [16:09]
diana_coman: in the light of mod6's adventures in getting the bot running, small update to the wiki - hopefully that makes the process clearer [16:41]
diana_coman: http://www.eulorum.org/Foxy\%27s_Crafting_Bot [16:41]
mod6: diana_coman: thanks for the wiki update [16:57]
mod6: suggestion: you may wanna add a parenthetical line under #2 that denotes that v1.1 is a replacement of the src & data directories for the s.mg original version. [16:58]
chetty: and art [17:04]
mod6: hi chetty :] [17:08]
mod6: art is in the data dir right? [17:08]
mod6: how you doing btw? [17:08]
diana_coman: I took out the full version including art, chetty, as I got the minimal one up [17:12]
diana_coman: good suggestion mod6, lemme add that then [17:12]
mod6: thanks for updating the wiki! [17:13]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman lbn at 67 is actually 350\% or some such [17:17]
diana_coman: oh, 67 is the latest price ? omg [17:17]
diana_coman: must have missed that in the logs [17:17]
diana_coman: goes reading [17:17]
mircea_popescu: you can always buy the tool if you'd rather source bps yourself. [17:17]
diana_coman: oh wow, nobody in town? everyone out mining? [17:20]
danielpbarron: is using up a pile of 500+ cruddy hoes at exactly 188 quality [17:22]
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, you still buy these for 2k, ya? [17:22]
diana_coman: hanbot mircea_popescu 2.25 for scones [17:27]
mircea_popescu: hanbot 5mn. [17:29]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron aha. [17:29]
mircea_popescu: im digging up some rotten fruit, noticed the stores of dg were low once dpb asked\ [17:30]
diana_coman: hanbot are you selling both scones now (there are 2 remaining, right?) or what is the plan? [17:36]
mircea_popescu: o wait, this comes with some sort of exclusivity deal or anything ? [17:37]
diana_coman: I don't know [17:37]
danielpbarron: lol [17:37]
mircea_popescu: or you just gonna keep selling these foreva [17:37]
diana_coman: hence my asking, lol [17:37]
danielpbarron: or maybe i figure out how to make some alraedy [17:37]
danielpbarron: speaking of which, what's the status on those supplications mircea_popescu ? [17:38]
mircea_popescu: which ? [17:38]
danielpbarron: one of each murky chicken and rocks [17:38]
mircea_popescu: ah, i musta missed it. will make them once in town. [17:39]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu> you can always buy the tool if you'd rather source bps yourself. <- it seems I might have to do that, will have to run some numbers; tbh it's more the time the problem basically [17:39]
diana_coman: (time to source the bps esp) [17:40]
danielpbarron: are we still short on some of the blueprints needed for shredding? [17:40]
diana_coman: given the huge amounts of lbn required, I think we will kind of always be short danielpbarron, lol [17:41]
danielpbarron: i have a large abundance of a bunch of them that i'd like to get rid of [17:41]
danielpbarron: around quality 150 [17:41]
mircea_popescu: yeah but prolly the wrong bunch [17:41]
danielpbarron: well i mean i'd do the shredding [17:41]
mircea_popescu: i haven't had the time to make cp for instance. there's hooves and stuff missing [17:41]
danielpbarron: looking to buy those other blueprints i don't have [17:41]
mircea_popescu: heh ok. [17:42]
diana_coman: and first attempt at *precise* bot movement miserably failed.... [17:45]
mircea_popescu: how ? [17:54]
diana_coman: basically the only chance of absolute precision is through small teleport-hops; trouble is that the position doesn't get updated then ; tried sit/stand as that would update from what I saw, but apparently I'd need then longer delay which is kind of VERY annoying [17:59]
diana_coman: I want shorter delays, not longer! [17:59]
diana_coman: so need to try jump I suppose [17:59]
diana_coman: except jump is NOT a direct/easy thing to do - will have to figure that out [17:59]
diana_coman: it was hoping wonderfully though, lol [18:00]
diana_coman: hoping hopping [18:00]
mircea_popescu: lol [18:00]
mircea_popescu: does opening inventory update position ? [18:00]
diana_coman: neah [18:01]
mircea_popescu: how about dropping something ? [18:01]
diana_coman: that'd be BAD [18:01]
diana_coman: it would drop it at the old position, lol [18:01]
diana_coman: moving would update of course but then bye-bye precision [18:01]
diana_coman: this bot gotta learn to jump... [18:02]
diana_coman: imagine that: every explore followed by a hop AND a jump - it's already a ritual1 [18:03]
diana_coman: guess I'll make it also say something random at that [18:03]
mircea_popescu: hoiw about turning ? [18:17]
jurov: or dying :DDD [18:18]
mircea_popescu: takes a bit that. [18:19]
mircea_popescu: but if you actually teleport, you don't really need your facing vector for anythign [18:19]
jurov: also, noticed it changes into a ghost and moves slowly when i mashed some keys, i don't remember which [18:21]
jurov: that might be useful [18:21]
hanbot: diana_coman, mircea_popescu: auction is for the two unused, existing scones i have. no guarantees i won't have more in future. winning bid /2 + 10\% will be my selling price tho, unless/until someone else manages to bake 'em too [19:30]
danielpbarron: https://twitter.com/eulorian/status/668589243921485824 [19:45]
mircea_popescu: ha [20:42]
mircea_popescu: start to make 333 dg, end up with 378 [20:43]
mircea_popescu: if anyone needs they're at 206 [20:43]
mircea_popescu: and now to copy down danielpbarron's sups [20:43]
mircea_popescu: hanbot im willing to pay 25mn on it provided you sell no more. [20:45]
hanbot: what, ever? [20:45]
mircea_popescu: 6 monhts [20:45]
hanbot: mind if i leave this pending for 24 hrs to let anyone else outbid that? [20:46]
mircea_popescu: i guess not. [21:15]
hanbot: k then. so: anyone wants sconesclusivity for > 25mn, you've got 'til 2am tuesday gmt, otherwise mircea_popescu shall be named scone king supreme. [21:22]
mircea_popescu: o my, gotta order new clothes [21:22]
mircea_popescu: this wallpaper's got to go... [21:22]
hanbot: hehe [21:23]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron your supps are ready. they are qadj base 100k, you can have them for 150. [21:24]
mod6: lol, this thing mines the claims for you. [21:26]
mircea_popescu: aha [21:27]

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