| diana_coman: | morning | [05:03] |
| diana_coman: | are you around mircea_popescu? | [05:03] |
| diana_coman: | jurov, want the boulders? | [06:36] |
| jurov: | broke into the cemetery :D | [07:50] |
| jurov: | but sadly, ghost is gone and digging is not allowed... | [07:50] |
| chetty: | awwww | [08:23] |
| chetty: | this is how you have fun? Breaking into cemetery? interesting | [08:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman fucking shit. so i left bot to do 55 crafts overnight, should have taken 10 hours. | [08:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | i wake up, it did 3 | [08:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | the tool is full of the items that it put there to train and never took back out. | [08:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | jurov howdja do that ?\ | [08:33] |
| jurov: | went to pee in the corner, turned around... and voila, am in | [08:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh wall too thin huh | [08:35] |
| jurov: | interesting it won't work in the other direction | [08:36] |
| jurov: | so i have to wait for chetty to reset | [08:36] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu did you run out of bps? | [08:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | nope. | [08:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | it does this thing, sometimes it simply does not pick the shit back in. | [08:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | but anyway, i got your bng and the stuff for the scaffolding right here. | [08:38] |
| diana_coman: | 1 min | [08:39] |
| diana_coman: | so it put it down to train you mean? | [08:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | not down. into toolkit. | [08:40] |
| diana_coman: | or where did it get stuck? | [08:40] |
| diana_coman: | yes, into toolkit | [08:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | yes. | [08:40] |
| diana_coman: | so after training it failed to get it back? | [08:40] |
| diana_coman: | hmmm | [08:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah. | [08:40] |
| diana_coman: | I'll have another look at that part then | [08:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | all 3 stacks left in there too. | [08:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | not like partial success. | [08:41] |
| diana_coman: | my samovar is almost ready, so I should be able to get the stuff in a few minutes | [08:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | did you ever test this drastically overweight ? | [08:41] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, it sounds like it skipped that or something | [08:41] |
| diana_coman: | well, the training thing is hard to test, lol | [08:41] |
| diana_coman: | I did | [08:41] |
| diana_coman: | a few times, when I could | [08:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | very bad, cost me 1/3 of the workday | [08:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | this is quickly becoming a major resource, time. | [08:42] |
| diana_coman: | did it actually train? or did that fail too? | [08:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | it did train. | [08:42] |
| diana_coman: | what was the last thing it reported? | [08:42] |
| diana_coman: | ugh, it might be again the target thing | [08:42] |
| diana_coman: | logically after train, it tries to retarget the container | [08:43] |
| diana_coman: | and then to take the stuff | [08:43] |
| diana_coman: | and I remember I had this thing at another time too: the targeting just failed | [08:43] |
| diana_coman: | I have no idea why/how | [08:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | possiubru | [08:43] |
| diana_coman: | tbh though not sure what I can do about it without knowing why the hell the target fails | [08:44] |
| diana_coman: | anyways, samovar ready, get the stuff now or later? | [08:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | at this rate it will soon be necessary to put a howling sound alarm for any failure. | [08:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | i seriously would rather have someone woken up by this than wake up to find im 2-3mn behind in processing schedule. | [08:44] |
| chetty: | jurov are you logged in? you can be moved while logged out, dont need to reset server | [08:44] |
| jurov: | no i'm offline | [08:45] |
| diana_coman: | I was thinking precisely of that kind of alarm, lol | [08:45] |
| diana_coman: | I suppose the heavy weight approach would be to take "make x items" as a must and therefore whatever happens, just keep stubbornly trying no matter what | [08:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | better than failure. | [08:46] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, something like that, though I need to think this through so it doesn't go nuts | [08:47] |
| diana_coman: | ugh, delivery, will be back in 15 min | [08:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | ill need about that much to sort all this shit lol. | [08:47] |
| chetty: | push the bots too far next you will start breaking the server ... | [08:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | dialectics! | [08:48] |
| chetty: | lol | [08:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | oooo i got drunken wedding cake recipe! | [08:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | shit, im making one of these. | [08:50] |
| diana_coman: | ha, I had one of those I think | [08:58] |
| diana_coman: | didn't know you wanted it, lol | [08:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | i didn't know either | [08:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | but since i got it... | [08:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | on the good news front, grenadine did 21 stick clicks for me, got 132 bps. | [09:02] |
| diana_coman: | she's the queen of bp writing as it were | [09:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | nah, chetty got me THIRTY THREE screen bps | [09:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | in one click.\ | [09:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | that was so fucking epic... | [09:03] |
| diana_coman: | wow, didn't know that, congrats chetty | [09:03] |
| chet__: | jurov give it a try now | [09:03] |
| chet__: | lo, yeah I guess that was a good one :) | [09:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman which logically means i will be needing a further 30 or so US made eventually... as i manage to source the molluscoi | [09:03] |
| diana_coman: | molluscoi lmao | [09:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [09:04] |
| diana_coman: | lol, you gave me 14 sb out of the 18 needed? | [09:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah. i dun have the other 4;/ | [09:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | dja got any ? | [09:10] |
| diana_coman: | I have, but prolly a bit lower q, I'll check what is max I have | [09:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | it won't matter anyway. 4 sb is like 200. out of 400k. | [09:11] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, actually I have higher, ahahhaha | [09:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | you're much likelier to waste 10x that much from your own lvl cap | [09:11] |
| diana_coman: | I was actually thinking of finishing first the samovar run really | [09:12] |
| diana_coman: | precisely to limit that loss | [09:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | works | [09:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman it just did it again | [09:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | wanna look at my tool or anything ? | [09:19] |
| diana_coman: | let me see, what is the last thing it wrote in the window? | [09:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | not enough ingredients for crafting | [09:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | omfg you know what, maybe it tries to seelct yours ? | [09:20] |
| diana_coman: | ugh, it wouldn't be completely impossible | [09:20] |
| diana_coman: | though it shouldn't | [09:20] |
| diana_coman: | it's not the nearest, is it | [09:20] |
| diana_coman: | + first it selected the right one | [09:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | omfg it also was using 10 instead of 1 forgot the damned default | [09:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | grrr | [09:21] |
| diana_coman: | why now all of a sudden it gets the wrong one | [09:21] |
| diana_coman: | that's a different story | [09:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | note that the tools were unmoved since last night. | [09:21] |
| diana_coman: | I moved mine as I picked it up and put it down | [09:21] |
| diana_coman: | (checking whether it's worn-out) | [09:21] |
| diana_coman: | hmmm | [09:21] |
| diana_coman: | I am relying on the client's own search for nearby stuff | [09:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | so was delay in ms ? | [09:22] |
| diana_coman: | as with any reliance on old client code, it's probably a bad idea | [09:22] |
| diana_coman: | yes | [09:22] |
| diana_coman: | ms | [09:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | well we'll know presently because i moved my ass. | [09:22] |
| diana_coman: | I guess at some point I'll just have to implement all the proper checks (which will be seen exactly as nothing AT ALL, but will take a ton of time to do) | [09:23] |
| diana_coman: | as in: actually check the object in the container | [09:23] |
| diana_coman: | actually check container is guarded by character | [09:23] |
| diana_coman: | etc | [09:23] |
| diana_coman: | yuck | [09:23] |
| diana_coman: | I suppose atm it could also get confused easily and not even start if there are lots of people crowded around same containers | [09:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | if this works then the fix will be put container close, | [09:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | \but will open the door to major trollage. | [09:26] |
| jurov: | chet__: thanks | [09:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | o god now the practice trade while working bullshit | [09:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | this just aint my morning ius it | [09:30] |
| diana_coman: | jump...lol | [09:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | ima relog | [09:30] |
| diana_coman: | and yeah re container closest to you is best for sure, but also trollage, of course | [09:30] |
| chetty: | somehow I dont feel to inclined to work on ways to prevent people trolling bots | [09:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | whynot ? | [09:31] |
| chetty: | seems like getting in the way of player inovations | [09:33] |
| diana_coman: | he he, I get what chetty says | [09:34] |
| diana_coman: | the thing is: full bulletproof automated processes from client side only atm are *very* expensive to make | [09:34] |
| chetty: | yeah and some of this may get fixed as a by-product of the growth plan | [09:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman confirmed. | [09:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | it worked fine now. | [09:56] |
| diana_coman: | aha; it certainly does take the closest container | [10:03] |
| diana_coman: | so in this sense I can see how it might happen if my container got closer somehow | [10:03] |
| diana_coman: | I guess I'll add a list of caveats rather than anything else atm | [10:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | yep | [10:06] |
| jurov: | and is manual process bulletproof, btw? | [10:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | how do you mean jurov ? | [10:40] |
| jurov: | so that for example noone can snatch stuff while you're crafting | [10:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | i think they can't, but feel free to check ? | [10:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron didn't you end up with TWO sacrifice skill items ? | [10:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | wouldja sell one ? | [10:44] |
| diana_coman: | wow, did you get the bp for the altar, mircea_popescu? | [12:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | nope | [12:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | long going discussion about his idea of some kind of sacrifice apprenticeship | [12:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | you done with the US btw ? | [12:09] |
| diana_coman: | no, still making samovars, lol | [12:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh oh ok. | [12:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | you still paying 35k per stick btw ? | [12:10] |
| diana_coman: | nope | [12:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | k i think ima take this batch and go wm. | [12:11] |
| diana_coman: | ok, just don't try bot+sticks, ok? | [12:11] |
| diana_coman: | lolz | [12:11] |
| diana_coman: | it won't work | [12:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol. i... wasn't gonna :) | [12:11] |
| diana_coman: | good | [12:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | but im going to do a 100 stick run on wm, so should be instructive. | [12:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | you ever got an ordinary of the stuff ? | [12:12] |
| diana_coman: | wow, I'd rather be weary of getting remarkables of wm lol | [12:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | why ? do you know what either takes ? | [12:41] |
| diana_coman: | yes, I kept telling you, lol | [12:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | darn i forgot lol | [12:41] |
| diana_coman: | I had both ord and remarkable (I still have the remarkable) | [12:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | so whart's ord take ? | [12:41] |
| diana_coman: | the remarkable takes a ton of molluscs and canines + distillates and all sorts | [12:41] |
| diana_coman: | the ord is doable..uhm, I had them up somewhere | [12:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman distillates are perhaps not out of reach. i will be making some wood distillates later on just to see. | [12:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, all this will have to wait a while because well... you got the 200 gathering book right ? i imagine you're prolly 300 by now or who knows. i'd rather have a little more meat on bones first. | [12:43] |
| diana_coman: | you mean gathering? | [12:44] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, I'm more than 350 | [12:45] |
| diana_coman: | shit, I did not jot down the ord wm | [12:45] |
| diana_coman: | in any case, it is doable | [12:45] |
| diana_coman: | ordinary is all right | [12:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | aha. well i figure if i get any remarkables ill stash em. | [12:46] |
| diana_coman: | what's your gathering level? | [12:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | 131 | [12:55] |
| diana_coman: | oh, guess there is a chance you get to use the 400 book then unless it's really steep close to 400 lol | [13:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | ha! | [13:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman of course the logical thing to do would be to capitalize on my strengths, how the fuck am i going to chase you at 350 gathering | [13:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | but then again... you got farming but i got sortage, i gotta keep mining else this whole thing stops. | [13:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | i guess the whole thing here is ima have to do a whole shitload of mining. | [13:14] |
| diana_coman: | well, I think it's fine if you do building , not necessarily gathering | [13:26] |
| diana_coman: | and in any case, mainly on basic harvestables if at that | [13:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | leaves me with a 1k wm hole i can't fill. | [13:40] |
| diana_coman: | that really requires a noob | [14:00] |
| diana_coman: | but I see what you mean | [14:00] |
| chetty: | well mebbe the noob plays again someday .. | [14:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | the thing is... im pretty much the noob. i get q 120 wm. but... hm. | [14:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | jesus this game is hard to figure out. | [14:02] |
| chetty: | lmao | [14:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | so basically, the situation is : i have ~3mn worth of chetty sticks. | [14:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | now these i could a) sell ; but diana no loinger wants to pay 35k each ; b) use to mine wm. this is good because stick always finds a small from what i've seen, as opposed to imps which miss 90\% of the time. but it's also bad because i have 130 gathering to diana's 350. | [14:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | or c) i could use it to mine sb. this is good because afaik i still get the highest q sb in game. but it's bad because well, i find the sb just fine with imps too. | [14:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | so i have nfi what to do here. | [14:04] |
| chetty: | well you need the wm to be high ql or you just want a lot? | [14:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | i want a lot. | [14:05] |
| chetty: | well you need a noober to actually build after you find | [14:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | i only build q 130 or so. as compared to my q292 sb say. | [14:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | i do however need a noob to make me a large pile of shiny rock shards | [14:06] |
| chetty: | well someone like me maybe manages ql 50 .. | [14:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | you wanna do some WM building ? | [14:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | wm is apparently 94 34 220 | [14:08] |
| chetty: | well normally I would but kinda bad time, we need to beat the bushes for noobs :P | [14:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol srsly. | [14:08] |
| danielpbarron: | < mircea_popescu> danielpbarron didn't you end up with TWO sacrifice skill items ? << i used 1 and still have one, and i plan to keep it for a n00b to be my apprentice sacrificer | [15:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | aha. | [15:37] |
| danielpbarron: | < mircea_popescu> so basically, the situation is : i have ~3mn worth of chetty sticks << i'll buy | [15:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | next set, ima mine this one | [15:39] |
| jurov: | foxy's code added to the repo (branch foxy): http://minigame.bz/jurov/Eulora-client.git | [19:40] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: Index of /jurov/Eulora-client.git (at minigame.bz) | [19:40] |
| jurov: | windows binary upcoming | [19:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | pretty cool | [20:35] |
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