| Birdman: | mircea_popescu: did you look into that problem with creating mosses sups? | [00:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | what is the problem exactly ? | [01:20] |
| Birdman: | With all the correct ingredients, proper draft in mind and equipment in place, it says i have the incorrect materials to create it | [01:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | ew | [01:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | i see the problem | [01:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | aite should be fixed on next reboot. | [01:32] |
| Birdman: | Thanks | [02:22] |
| diana_coman: | morning | [02:23] |
| Birdman: | Morning | [02:23] |
| diana_coman: | oh, hi Birdman, are you back to making the sups for daniel? | [02:23] |
| diana_coman: | or what do you want for a pack of supp drafts? | [02:24] |
| Birdman: | I'd much rather be moving forward in the skill myself, and seeing as i dont have an exploring bot, or the means to buy recipies to shred from mp, production is halted at the moment | [02:25] |
| diana_coman: | so wait, you basically can't move ahead, but you won't sell either? | [02:26] |
| diana_coman: | is that it? | [02:26] |
| Birdman: | As soon as i let one go i know they will become nearly worthless, so it would take some consideration to figure out what id part with them for | [02:26] |
| diana_coman: | what are you exactly waiting for? | [02:26] |
| Birdman: | Kind of diana, but not with malicious intent | [02:26] |
| diana_coman: | well, it's facts really, not intent | [02:27] |
| Birdman: | Im waiting to get a few million to buy shredding recipies from mp and then get sups to dan | [02:27] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, won't you better sell a pack of supp drafts and get thus some money with which to move forward in skill? | [02:28] |
| diana_coman: | and in any case, I doubt that you will get to make supps above 100q with just a few shreds | [02:29] |
| Birdman: | Well i hold the drafts that there is a demand for their supplications so i may get money from selling them to progress myself, but theres also value in bottlenecking everyone else from progressing until i can compete | [02:30] |
| diana_coman: | bottlenecking everyone else might have a cost too | [02:31] |
| diana_coman: | just saying | [02:31] |
| Birdman: | And i was talking to mp about getting enough recipies to shred max like 1k times | [02:31] |
| Birdman: | this is true | [02:31] |
| diana_coman: | while you wait, I at least grow my skills anyway | [02:31] |
| diana_coman: | so I'm not entirely sure you will really be near even with 1k shreds really | [02:32] |
| Birdman: | right, but in skills i shouldnt be competing in | [02:32] |
| diana_coman: | it depends on tinkering skill too, anyway | [02:32] |
| diana_coman: | neah, I am increasing my bouq in any case | [02:32] |
| diana_coman: | as I make skill books for instance | [02:32] |
| diana_coman: | and shred | [02:32] |
| Birdman: | right but at a deficite, the demand is on the normal supps if im not mistaken | [02:33] |
| diana_coman: | what do you mean at a deficite? | [02:33] |
| diana_coman: | there is high demand for bits of nothing for one thing | [02:33] |
| Birdman: | The market demands the sups from the drafts i have | [02:33] |
| diana_coman: | and there is some demand for skill books too | [02:33] |
| Birdman: | not the others that are alreadty in the market | [02:33] |
| diana_coman: | I am not talking about the other supps | [02:33] |
| diana_coman: | at all | [02:33] |
| diana_coman: | (although they will be in demand too at some point anyway) | [02:34] |
| Birdman: | right | [02:34] |
| Birdman: | There is a price id accept to release them | [02:34] |
| diana_coman: | keep in mind the auction where you got them from and say it | [02:35] |
| Birdman: | on the other side of the coin, i dont have access to the enumerations to make the supplications | [02:40] |
| Birdman: | so as far as that goes id be more than happy to create them for someone to resell themselves, but first i need the quality that is needed | [02:41] |
| diana_coman: | that's the thing: I am fine to sell you the enums, but for coppers, not for shitty supps or whatever | [02:42] |
| Birdman: | Right | [02:42] |
| diana_coman: | for that matter not even for high q supps, since I have no use for them | [02:42] |
| Birdman: | So if that would be the case id need the bank roll to buy them, resell and be able to get more | [02:42] |
| diana_coman: | yes | [02:42] |
| Birdman: | but first i need the q up | [02:43] |
| diana_coman: | it seems so | [02:43] |
| Birdman: | mircea_popescu: how many recipies for shredding could i get for ~ 20 million coppers? | [02:43] |
| diana_coman: | keep in mind that's it's been already 3 months I think since the first altar auction so dunno for how long this will just be stuck like that | [02:43] |
| Birdman: | i know, time is a factor | [02:44] |
| diana_coman: | tbh I think you might be in a far better position to compete on one of the new skills you could get from daniel | [02:44] |
| diana_coman: | if he gets the altar going | [02:44] |
| Birdman: | I think i have a shot at bouq, and i already spent the start up money on the screens and drafts | [02:45] |
| Birdman: | and i feel it will be one of the more valuable skills when claims stop producing enumerations | [02:45] |
| diana_coman: | not sure how do you see exactly competing on bouq given that there is already a gap of about 100 q points or more just at this moment (and even more than that if you compare to mp) | [02:46] |
| Birdman: | by grinding my levels up, same way as any other skill | [02:46] |
| diana_coman: | well, arguments with feelings is certainly not worth it | [02:46] |
| Birdman: | i just know its not a priority for you guys right now | [02:46] |
| diana_coman: | I meant that you already have a big gap to bridge, while you wouldn't have that in one of the new skills | [02:46] |
| Birdman: | so with the shredding i could catch up fast | [02:46] |
| diana_coman: | mk | [02:47] |
| diana_coman: | and yes, it is now for me | [02:47] |
| Birdman: | Well by all means if you'd like to buy my screens and drafts we could work something out | [02:47] |
| diana_coman: | as said earlier: bouq is now a priority for me | [02:47] |
| Birdman: | and i hold the key to make it particularly profitable | [02:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | Birdman diana bought the recipes i was selling | [02:48] |
| diana_coman: | I am mainly interested in the drafts, but if you absolutely want to throw in the screens too that's fine as long as you don't ask now for some huge price | [02:49] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, what key is that Birdman? | [02:49] |
| Birdman: | the drafts that dan needs | [02:49] |
| diana_coman: | lolz | [02:49] |
| Birdman: | Well if mp is out of recipies for shredding, what would you be willing to sell enumerations for? | [02:50] |
| diana_coman: | listen: you are stuck and bottlenecking everyone; recipes for shredding are not available; I am offering 2 options: either I sell you enums for coppers or I buy some drafts (and screens if you really want ) | [02:51] |
| Birdman: | id be interested in the enumerations | [02:52] |
| diana_coman: | I would have to check the numbers again as it keeps changing, but for now I'd say 100 coppers for a tiny and 800 for a small | [02:52] |
| diana_coman: | that's for rare items (moss, pss etc) | [02:53] |
| Birdman: | ah | [02:53] |
| Birdman: | is anyone selling cft by the way? | [02:53] |
| diana_coman: | don't know if you've been exploring lately, but things seem to have turned rather more sour than they were | [02:53] |
| Birdman: | is there any deal to be made for a bulk buy? | [02:53] |
| diana_coman: | I think daniel was selling some and I have some I can sell too | [02:53] |
| diana_coman: | around 165q | [02:53] |
| diana_coman: | not really, as the tool decay is the same anyway | [02:54] |
| diana_coman: | I sell tools though | [02:54] |
| diana_coman: | if you prefer to go and get them yourself, but keep in mind that I really have the highest gathering skill | [02:54] |
| diana_coman: | I recently got above 200 | [02:54] |
| Birdman: | finding them myself is the worst way i could go about it | [02:54] |
| Birdman: | so i will definitely be buying them | [02:55] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, true | [02:55] |
| diana_coman: | once again: what do you want for those drafts and/or screens? | [02:55] |
| Birdman: | If you are willing to sell the enums then thats what ill be doing | [02:56] |
| Birdman: | what supply of tiny pss do you have? | [02:56] |
| diana_coman: | lolz, are you telling me I should rather *not* sell the enums so that I get those drafts and finally get the altar going like today instead of in another month or whatever? | [02:57] |
| Birdman: | i have constituion | [02:57] |
| Birdman: | i can wait lol | [02:57] |
| diana_coman: | constitution? | [02:57] |
| diana_coman: | sure, we can all wait and then we die or something, lol | [02:57] |
| Birdman: | right, so i think itd be in both our best interests for you to sell me enums | [02:58] |
| diana_coman: | there will be a new release soon anyway and probably there will be new interesting things in it | [02:58] |
| Birdman: | you'll be turning a profit doing so i assume | [02:58] |
| diana_coman: | I certainly intend to make a profit in doing so - that's why the prices might go up for new enums depending on how the explore goes | [02:59] |
| diana_coman: | my main interest however is in getting the altar going as fast as possible | [02:59] |
| Birdman: | Ive been meaning to ask, when does the loot stop if at all? if you have one draft will you never run out for example? | [02:59] |
| diana_coman: | the fastest way is for me to buy the drafts, hence I am willing to do that | [02:59] |
| diana_coman: | but if you insist on bottlenecking, sure, selling the enums is the only other way | [03:00] |
| diana_coman: | loot doesn't stop | [03:00] |
| diana_coman: | as long as you overcraft | [03:00] |
| diana_coman: | it might be more difficult to overcraft, of course | [03:00] |
| diana_coman: | but as long as input much greater than output, you will get some loot | [03:00] |
| diana_coman: | oh, also: have you checked how many uses you still have for your screens? | [03:01] |
| diana_coman: | so you don't end up using up your screens to level up | [03:01] |
| diana_coman: | and then having no screens to make the supps, lolz | [03:02] |
| Birdman: | it has alot left lol | [03:02] |
| diana_coman: | shredding also uses it "a lot" but ok | [03:02] |
| Birdman: | its almost new, and i planned for that but lost my other screens like an idiot | [03:03] |
| diana_coman: | so iirc you paid 1 mil for the drafts and 1.5 mil for the screens, is that right? (I can check in the post and logs otherwise) | [03:04] |
| Birdman: | im pretty sure i paid 1.5 million for the screens with 500 leather drafts | [03:05] |
| diana_coman: | ok, so what do you want for the screens then and 500 of each basic supp drafts? | [03:08] |
| Birdman: | id have to think it over for awhile | [03:09] |
| diana_coman: | ok, ping me then when you get to some conclusion, hopefully before the new release as I might find the new stuff way more interesting | [03:14] |
| diana_coman: | for anyone interested: I am selling tinkering skill books (they give you one level up in tinkering up to level 100); I'll auction a pack of them tomorrow | [03:15] |
| diana_coman: | I have 2 ordinaries: shiny rock and bird's nest - do you want them, danielpbarron? | [03:30] |
| danielpbarron: | oh i thought the skill books brought you all the way to 100 rank | [08:08] |
| danielpbarron: | does this mean the original skill items will never be produced again? | [08:08] |
| danielpbarron: | and yeah i'd buy those but it doesn't seem like we're ever online simultaneously | [08:09] |
| danielpbarron: | err.. buy those ordinary claims that is | [08:09] |
| danielpbarron: | i still have those boulders for you, or do you not want them anymore? | [08:09] |
| diana_coman: | I am online now danielpbarron | [08:17] |
| diana_coman: | if you are still on, I can get back to the village now | [08:17] |
| diana_coman: | the skill books increase your skill up to 100,but not like 100 levels in one go or something | [08:18] |
| diana_coman: | re original skill items I really don't know | [08:19] |
| danielpbarron: | oh | [08:20] |
| danielpbarron: | yes i'm here | [08:20] |
| diana_coman: | ok, will be there in a few minutes | [08:21] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron still in game? lol | [08:28] |
| danielpbarron: | ya | [08:30] |
| danielpbarron: | sorry, was editing my shop page | [08:30] |
| diana_coman: | awww lolz, nm, will talk at the event anyway I suppose | [08:30] |
| diana_coman: | it can wait | [08:30] |
| danielpbarron: | k | [08:31] |
| danielpbarron: | (not sure i'll be at the event | [08:31] |
| danielpbarron: | might be free tomorrow, but if I am it'll be the last sunday i have off for a couple months | [08:31] |
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