| mircea_popescu: | i thought that was gernika | [01:56] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu i mostly want basics tbh <- rares can wait then, no problem | [02:38] |
| diana_coman: | I'm looking for someone with low building/gathering skill to get and build small claims for me | [02:38] |
| diana_coman: | lobbes, are you interested? ^ | [02:38] |
| diana_coman: | I'll give the claims | [02:39] |
| diana_coman: | or jurov? | [02:39] |
| chetty: | morning | [05:07] |
| chetty: | danielpbarron, who are you attacking? | [05:08] |
| danielpbarron: | i think someone stood over either my craft table or the npc | [10:44] |
| danielpbarron: | and my macro clicked them | [10:45] |
| gernika: | diana_coman - I currently have *no* gathering skill and am in need of assistance in figuring out how to get it. | [10:51] |
| diana_coman: | oh, you need an item | [10:52] |
| gernika: | I have some items | [10:52] |
| diana_coman: | did you get any starter pack from mp? | [10:52] |
| diana_coman: | have you read a bit on the wiki? | [10:52] |
| diana_coman: | in any case, you need gathering for *finding* claims | [10:52] |
| gernika: | 104 bits of nothing, a 2 leaf clover, and some question marks | [10:52] |
| diana_coman: | it's the "building" skill you need for mining the claim | [10:53] |
| gernika: | aha | [10:53] |
| diana_coman: | oh, where did you get the leaf clover? | [10:53] |
| diana_coman: | the question marks might be what you need | [10:53] |
| diana_coman: | what are they? | [10:53] |
| gernika: | either mp or danielpbarron gave it to me | [10:53] |
| diana_coman: | have a look here: http://www.eulorum.org/Eulora | [10:53] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: Eulorum (at www.eulorum.org) | [10:53] |
| diana_coman: | you need "smelly murky something" | [10:53] |
| diana_coman: | for gathering | [10:53] |
| gernika: | a mysterious rock and a smelly murky something | [10:54] |
| diana_coman: | (you'll need to "use" the item - just drag and drop it on your character in the inventory window) | [10:54] |
| diana_coman: | good | [10:54] |
| diana_coman: | use them | [10:54] |
| diana_coman: | the rock gives you building | [10:54] |
| diana_coman: | the murky something gives you gathering | [10:54] |
| gernika: | Ok - I've had a look at that page - it doesn't seem to automatically give me gathering as I've tried /explore but it just seems to cause me pain i.e. "ouch" | [10:56] |
| diana_coman: | no, that's because you don't have a tool | [10:56] |
| diana_coman: | if you don't have a tool, then you explore with your bare hands | [10:56] |
| diana_coman: | and it hurts, of course | [10:56] |
| diana_coman: | (kind of like digging bare-handed) | [10:57] |
| gernika: | got it ok also saw a message saying I don't have enough skill to explore here | [10:57] |
| diana_coman: | have a look at your stats page | [10:57] |
| diana_coman: | you can see there your skills | [10:57] |
| diana_coman: | found it? | [10:57] |
| gernika: | yes | [10:57] |
| diana_coman: | so, under Gather | [10:57] |
| danielpbarron: | don't have enough skill to explore there?? | [10:57] |
| diana_coman: | do you have Gathering? | [10:57] |
| danielpbarron: | i never saw that message | [10:58] |
| diana_coman: | what message? | [10:58] |
| diana_coman: | no danielpbarron I suspect he means the "ouch, that hurts" | [10:58] |
| danielpbarron: | not having enough skill to explore | [10:58] |
| diana_coman: | the message you get if you explore bare-handed | [10:58] |
| gernika: | sorry "you don't have the skill to explore any resource here" | [10:59] |
| danielpbarron: | i think he just didn't use the skill item yet | [10:59] |
| diana_coman: | oh, gernika, have you used the smelly murky something? | [10:59] |
| gernika: | No I have not | [10:59] |
| diana_coman: | so use it, lol | [10:59] |
| diana_coman: | you have to use it in order to get the skill | [10:59] |
| danielpbarron: | what is lobbes' character's name? | [10:59] |
| gernika: | ahah. used | [11:00] |
| diana_coman: | use also the rock thing | [11:01] |
| diana_coman: | as that will give you another skill | [11:01] |
| diana_coman: | once you have used the rock, I can give you some claims to build and you'll get practice points (experience) in the "build" skill | [11:02] |
| chetty: | danielpbarron, I did kick you after I had seen that message for a while | [11:02] |
| danielpbarron: | on my screen it was frozen after I had put all the items from my inventory into my craft table | [11:02] |
| diana_coman: | chetty, one question: does the sweeper still get things left out? I had thrown some keys away in the hope the sweeper will get them and then get their locked claims too, but I think I kept seeing them there for ages | [11:02] |
| chetty: | well it was giving a message that you stop attacking ... | [11:03] |
| danielpbarron: | shrugs | [11:03] |
| danielpbarron: | my macro is stupid; it just clicks | [11:03] |
| chetty: | well if the claim is locked the sweepr will never get it | [11:03] |
| danielpbarron: | afk | [11:03] |
| diana_coman: | ouch :( | [11:04] |
| diana_coman: | so it may get the keys if they are just lying about and then the claim is basically stuck? | [11:04] |
| chetty: | unless of course one of these days I get annoyed and just leanup the landscape :P | [11:04] |
| chetty: | yeah that might happen, I should prolly double chaeck that, it shouldnt sweep up keys to locked claims | [11:05] |
| chetty: | maybe one day I do a db clean that removes all claims more than X months old or something, dunno have to think about it | [11:06] |
| diana_coman: | that would hurt, ouch | [11:07] |
| diana_coman: | as there are some remarkables that we can't even build | [11:07] |
| diana_coman: | and so yes, they get old | [11:07] |
| diana_coman: | but uhm, I would really not want to lose them | [11:07] |
| chetty: | hmm yeah perhaps only tiny and small that are more than X, needs a bit of thinking about really. No emergency for sure | [11:08] |
| gernika: | diana_coman I'm in town if you'd like to give me some claims. | [11:08] |
| diana_coman: | ok | [11:08] |
| chetty: | oh, fresh blood, nice. Welcome aboard gernika | [11:09] |
| gernika: | Thanks chetty | [11:09] |
| diana_coman: | how's it going gernika? | [12:01] |
| gernika: | Not well. Can't seem to find the claims again - I found a bunch that are yours and for clumps of grass... | [12:01] |
| diana_coman: | uhm | [12:02] |
| diana_coman: | ok, will come in a minute, stay there | [12:02] |
| diana_coman: | so gernika got about 300 grass out of 2 small claims of mine (built each with 7 threads ) | [12:26] |
| diana_coman: | threads at 154q | [12:29] |
| chetty: | interesting, whats his building rank? | [12:30] |
| diana_coman: | well, it was 2-3 I suppose | [12:31] |
| chetty: | sounds like rank doesnt effect it all that much, hmmm | [12:31] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, 3 | [12:31] |
| diana_coman: | quality 20 | [12:32] |
| diana_coman: | but I don't know how many you get out of smalls, chetty? | [12:32] |
| diana_coman: | as you got those 400 out of an ordinary, not smalls | [12:32] |
| chetty: | 595 ... yeah true. we still need to test that | [12:35] |
| diana_coman: | just ping me when you are available, as it's best I get fresh claims, otherwise it's a mess keeping track of them and keys and all | [12:36] |
| chetty: | hmm, no real reason I cant do it now, I'll log on | [12:37] |
| diana_coman: | oh, cool | [12:37] |
| chetty: | ok heading over to grass area, I got 2 ranks from last one so starting this at 18 | [12:39] |
| diana_coman: | ok, I'm there already, I'll explore a bit | [12:39] |
| danielpbarron: | ugh, someone keeps messing up my macro | [13:11] |
| danielpbarron: | probably by standing over my table or the npc | [13:12] |
| danielpbarron: | looks at gernika | [13:12] |
| danielpbarron: | please treat the space in Eulora like you would real space, in that it matters where you are standing | [13:12] |
| danielpbarron: | chetty> sounds like rank doesnt effect it all that much, hmmm << it sounds like it does. he got 300 * 20 = 6000 whereas I would have gotten ~20 * 284 ~= 6000 | [13:15] |
| danielpbarron: | high rank in building makes the tinies especially lucrative | [13:16] |
| danielpbarron: | because no matter your rank you get at least 1 item | [13:16] |
| danielpbarron: | and higher rank means higher quality on that 1 item | [13:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://logs.minigame.bz/2015-08-30.log.html#t16:26:36 << aha! pretty cool. certainly better than the fucking 30 i got. | [13:35] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: #Eulora log for Sunday, 2015-08-30 (at logs.minigame.bz) | [13:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | OUT OF A DOZEN | [13:35] |
| diana_coman: | ahaha mircea_popescu and yeah, I hear you | [13:36] |
| diana_coman: | I mined about 20 smalls in a row to see | [13:36] |
| diana_coman: | and I got on average... 6 per small | [13:36] |
| diana_coman: | lol | [13:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | with my threads ? | [13:36] |
| diana_coman: | yeah | [13:36] |
| diana_coman: | stopped there so that I don't waste more threads | [13:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah, say simplified 7 * 3 * 2 / 6 * 1.5 | [13:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | 10\% return ffs | [13:37] |
| diana_coman: | but will give more to gernika/chetty or anyone else who wants to go for it | [13:37] |
| diana_coman: | I get smalls quite quickly and reliably for grass | [13:37] |
| diana_coman: | and btw, I should have 1k of goop by now, will be in game in about 1 hr | [13:38] |
| diana_coman: | you wanted it, right? | [13:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah. | [13:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | well here's the scoop. i got ~7k ibs i been trying to trade away to someone that'll trade me back bottles so i can make IO. | [13:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | this needs 1500 threads and 500 goop | [13:39] |
| gernika: | danielpbarron sorry probably was me just walking through everything | [13:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | separately, i want to make like 500-1000 FT, which will then need 150 SB to make stick packages | [13:39] |
| diana_coman: | I have about 1k sb I think | [13:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | so if you manage to get me together enough grass to make the 1500 threads and you're willing to take the ibs and bring back bottles we got a pretty decent deal here. | [13:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | 150 * 77 = 11550 needed sb. | [13:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | not 150 :) | [13:40] |
| diana_coman: | ahahah, I was a bit surprised at that | [13:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | add more digits of 1 and 5! | [13:40] |
| diana_coman: | you meant 150 pps then | [13:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | 150 * 2 = 11550 right ? | [13:40] |
| diana_coman: | lolz | [13:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | :D | [13:41] |
| diana_coman: | I think that might need the same approach though | [13:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | it wouldn't hurt me any, i don't care what sb i burn, q 5 or 150 | [13:41] |
| diana_coman: | I'm all for the sticks package, that was the original thing I was aiming for I think | [13:41] |
| diana_coman: | yeah | [13:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | grass should prolly be solved first tho. | [13:41] |
| diana_coman: | yes | [13:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | because it has such a chokehold on mining. | [13:41] |
| diana_coman: | and tbh I want thread for mining | [13:41] |
| diana_coman: | as otherwise ... | [13:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | (next step after i get the ltf is wanting 500 mushrooms and 1500 moss ffs) | [13:41] |
| diana_coman: | sure, I can mine tinies till next month | [13:42] |
| diana_coman: | but | [13:42] |
| diana_coman: | 1500? | [13:42] |
| diana_coman: | lolz | [13:42] |
| diana_coman: | I think I have a batch of oil cooking | [13:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, 3 to the flask. | [13:42] |
| diana_coman: | (still had some good bottles) | [13:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | i ALSO want that, but that ironically is a separate pathway. | [13:42] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, just meant that is not a big thing | [13:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | i need my own high q IO to make tuber milk | [13:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | i need your low q IO to make shaped slag, | [13:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | for samovars mostly. but also tools, | [13:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | at least for the toolkit. | [13:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | (tuber milk turns out i can't overcraft, because of the samovar decay) | [13:43] |
| diana_coman: | oh, I see | [13:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | also, as a psa : yesterday i made ~200 clicks of 7-8k qual bundles on the worn screens. i actually came out +EV, which is always nice for a 15mn craft run. somehow one always suspects it's gonna end in disaster. | [13:44] |
| diana_coman: | you mean for bits of nothing or other stuff? | [13:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway i got a ton of suplications of all sorts, which i'll be selling if anyone wins the auction and wants them | [13:44] |
| diana_coman: | I would buy more bits of nothing | [13:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | and, cuz im not done, and it turns out bits of nothing are a total pain | [13:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | i now have almost 200 of them and we are shit-out of screens | [13:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | or at least i am. | [13:45] |
| diana_coman: | lolz | [13:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | but considering it costs 70-80k per click to get one... | [13:45] |
| diana_coman: | want some? | [13:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | some whats ? | [13:45] |
| diana_coman: | screens | [13:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | ahahaha you're making them now ? | [13:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | no wait, you can't make them | [13:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | what the ef | [13:45] |
| diana_coman: | lolz, no, just never got around anymore to use what I have | [13:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh | [13:45] |
| diana_coman: | been mostly exploring and then crafting some | [13:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | well honestly, there's 16 recipes that go in, and to get that 8k qual of the bundle you need to 99 like 14 stacks. as you can imagine this means i burned 1400 recipes per click. or almost 3mn total. | [13:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | so im a lot lighter on the archives now lol | [13:46] |
| diana_coman: | did a biggish batch of ibs myself and went up about 7 ranks today only, lol | [13:46] |
| diana_coman: | but of course nothing really sizable to show for it, not that I expected it anymore | [13:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | well... ibs is not very expensive clickage. | [13:47] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, I know what you mean, part of the reason why I stopped on the screens | [13:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | i was kinda curious if you were going to get anything with the samovar run, but i guess now. | [13:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | not* | [13:47] |
| diana_coman: | no, but should have had a decent overcraft given that it was flotsam at 350 and rock the same | [13:47] |
| diana_coman: | the samovar run was the shittiest thing ever | [13:47] |
| diana_coman: | this last one | [13:47] |
| diana_coman: | did not even get the recipes back | [13:48] |
| diana_coman: | maybe I have more chances of getting something if I actually cook something on the samovar given that I have no gung-ho, lol | [13:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman so fucking weird, because you were ooooohhh | [13:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | no it makes sense, see the samovar bundle is like 90k. you were doing what, 50 points overcraft ? | [13:49] |
| diana_coman: | yes, that's the thing, the samovar run makes sense not to give much now | [13:49] |
| diana_coman: | as I got up in tinkering | [13:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | no listen. 50\% of 90k is like 45k. to this, the ~2-3k decay of the tool does not add much. the recipe is like 9k base, but yours is more like 14k | [13:50] |
| diana_coman: | but the exploring thing is a total shit, lol | [13:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | consequently you do a 45k overcraft and the recipe is 1/3 that. | [13:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | now take the case of something like flinty toothpaste. | [13:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | the item itself is like 500. | [13:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | the samovar decay like 3k | [13:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | so it's more like 1/60. see what i mean ? | [13:51] |
| diana_coman: | hmmm | [13:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | this is probably the most important variable in crafting, the "overcraft ratio" | [13:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | ie, the nominal value of your overcraft divided by the recipe true value (q adjusted for you) | [13:51] |
| diana_coman: | sounds reasonable to me, I can't say really | [13:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | this is why i always produce spare ft bps, but rarely get btk bps. | [13:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | the thing is, when i made the imp hoes, right ? | [13:52] |
| diana_coman: | yes? | [13:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | i did 120 clicks. overcraft huge, like 170 points. | [13:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | i got back ~2k bps, of all types | [13:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | (ie, all the 3 imp types) | [13:53] |
| diana_coman: | I see | [13:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | but that bundle is iirc 15k and i was doing 50k clicks. | [13:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | yet the RECIPE itself is very expensive, like 9k each in my hands. | [13:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | but because 35/9 is more than 45/14, i got like 18x what recipes i put in. | [13:54] |
| diana_coman: | well, on the ibs I got indeed about 2k recipes at least of all sorts | [13:54] |
| diana_coman: | that makes sense actually | [13:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | so 6:1 pays. how many did you get, say 80\% ? 50\% ? of the samovar recipes you put in ? | [13:54] |
| diana_coman: | 50\% | [13:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | so 6:1 was like 15x or 18x or some shit, and 3:1 was 0.5x | [13:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | now as to ibs, it has no tool built in decay. what did you do, like 150 points on it ? what was the bundle, 300 ? and you make 150 ibs ? | [13:55] |
| diana_coman: | more like 320 but yeah, can work with that | [13:55] |
| diana_coman: | and yes, 155 | [13:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | ibs is like 250 base, and your overcraft comes to say 400 then. | [13:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | whereas the recipe is like 40. so 10:1, should have given you even more than 20 recipes per click | [13:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh btw, you have a bunch of low ibs ? because if you do, i have some low thread i want to use, sell me it with some goop and i'll sell you back high LFT ? | [13:57] |
| diana_coman: | yes, I have it | [13:57] |
| diana_coman: | will be back in game in about 1 hr or 0.45 more like it and will settle all | [13:57] |
| diana_coman: | sorry gotta run right now | [13:57] |
| diana_coman: | bbl | [13:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | so then ima meet you in game. you can fill the lft with oil and either trade it back to me if you want or do we with it | [13:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | kk | [13:58] |
| lobbes: | http://logs.minigame.bz/latest.log.html#t03:13:45 << danielpbarron, my character's name is Dumphry Cabbage | [14:01] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: #Eulora log for Sunday, 2015-08-30 (at logs.minigame.bz) | [14:01] |
| lobbes: | I really gotta figure out how to get lobbesbot to quote the log lines.. | [14:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | lobbes you ever got a starter pack didja ? | [14:02] |
| lobbes: | naw, not yet | [14:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | aite, wanna meet me in game ? | [14:02] |
| lobbes: | yeah, sure. give me a few mins.. | [14:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | aite. | [14:03] |
| lobbes: | I'm in, but I gotta run for a bit. I'll ping ya later | [14:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | aite say when you're at the trainer | [14:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | ahahaha positioning griefing ? win. | [14:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://logs.minigame.bz/2015-08-30.log.html#t17:16:23 << so it turns out big miners should mine small finds and new miners big finds ? OMG THIS IS SO COUNTERINTUITIVE! | [14:21] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: #Eulora log for Sunday, 2015-08-30 (at logs.minigame.bz) | [14:21] |
| danielpbarron: | yo | [14:32] |
| danielpbarron: | i'm in town | [14:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | brt danielpbarron | [14:33] |
| danielpbarron: | how are you selling the bits of nothing? auction? | [14:34] |
| diana_coman: | s | [14:47] |
| diana_coman: | fwiw 318 bundle of dg, recipes at 154q, output at 157q and I get...about 2-3 recipes (slag, braided method, goop) per click | [15:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | is dg done in craft table ? | [15:06] |
| diana_coman: | yes | [15:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | well then this makes exactly no sense ?! | [15:08] |
| diana_coman: | that's why I put it forward, lol | [15:08] |
| diana_coman: | as I am utterly confused on this | [15:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | so wait. you are making disgusting goop. it comes out with q 157. and the bundles you put in, are q 154 ? and you get extra loot ? | [15:09] |
| diana_coman: | (on a side note: turns out I still need to make about 150 dg) | [15:09] |
| diana_coman: | no | [15:09] |
| diana_coman: | the recipes are at 154 | [15:09] |
| diana_coman: | the bundle is at 318 | [15:09] |
| diana_coman: | don't know the base value for the recipe though | [15:10] |
| diana_coman: | I'll have to check | [15:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | well then of course ? | [15:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | you're making like 160 points overcraft there. | [15:11] |
| diana_coman: | and that is 2-3 recipes? | [15:11] |
| diana_coman: | or rather 2 on average | [15:11] |
| diana_coman: | as it seems I get 1 quite often, lol | [15:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | well what's a dg recipe, like 50 base ? so you make it 75 | [15:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | and the overcraft is like 7-800 ? | [15:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | so still 10:1. | [15:12] |
| diana_coman: | I actually get mostly slag recipes | [15:12] |
| diana_coman: | and braided method | [15:12] |
| diana_coman: | not really much dg for some reason | [15:12] |
| diana_coman: | maybe it's more exp, dunno | [15:12] |
| diana_coman: | would need to check the base values of those recipes | [15:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | slag is for sure more expensiuve than dg | [15:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | and iirc so is bct | [15:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | and omfg holy shit, ALL THE FLOTSAM IS GONE ? | [15:14] |
| diana_coman: | he he | [15:14] |
| diana_coman: | yes | [15:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | the poor merchant, got like nothing left | [15:14] |
| diana_coman: | :p | [15:14] |
| jurov: | and coppers are gone, too | [15:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway. ima hold the announced auction in 3 hours ? that work for erryone interested ? | [15:15] |
| diana_coman: | I have about 1.2k ibs and I didn't do it all anyway | [15:15] |
| diana_coman: | any chance a bit sooner than that? | [15:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | nope. but it IS already sooner than usual, which is why i ask | [15:15] |
| chetty: | coppers are gone??? | [15:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron ? hanbot ? who else ? birdman i dun see here. | [15:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | ;;seen birdman | [15:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | gah | [15:16] |
| chetty: | wrong side of the tracks for fancy stuffs | [15:16] |
| diana_coman: | oh, I thought the event used to be around 21 gmt, not really midnight, but ok | [15:16] |
| jurov: | chetty, i mean these 5BTC-worth i was reselling | [15:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | jurov ahaha wut, you sold out ? | [15:16] |
| jurov: | indeed | [15:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | lucky we didn't peg eulora to some altcoin, then | [15:17] |
| hanbot: | mircea_popescu sounds good | [15:17] |
| jurov: | as i wrote yesterday ingame, sme people insist to make eulora inflationary | [15:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | mod6 i guess ain't much of a crafter, so then that's that. | [15:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | 10 PM GMT, in 2 hours 40 minutes, auction. | [15:18] |
| hanbot: | jurov what decision(s) on the part of the players "make"s eulora inflationary? | [15:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | fx. | [15:24] |
| jurov: | half joking.. but really, putting 7BTC (only I know of so far already) into it? | [15:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | the way the us sunk for the first serious time : after decades of european gold flooding in, giving everyone hopes, there was a crisis in europe and the gold rushed out | [15:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | leaving the first great crisis behind | [15:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | jurov i bought 2 btc worth from myself too. | [15:25] |
| hanbot: | i'm pretty confident 7 (or 9) btc doesn't begin to sneeze at what eulora is worth, but hey. i'll try to keep my hopes down if it'll help ;D | [15:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | >D | [15:31] |
| chetty: | hope is a good thing | [15:32] |
| diana_coman: | hanbot did you get any chance to build those grass claims? | [15:34] |
| hanbot: | ah, yeah. 21 claims /710 cdg. can settle @ auction later | [15:37] |
| diana_coman: | was mainly curious tbh | [15:39] |
| hanbot: | they were mostly around 21, highest single was 125, not disgraceful, not spectacular | [15:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | how do you split it ? | [15:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | if you get a 100k find say | [15:40] |
| diana_coman: | it's surely more as a count than I would get | [15:40] |
| hanbot: | mircea_popescu rink-a-dink, naturally | [15:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | huh ? | [15:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | does not find this type of deal in his extensive memorized collection of historical arrangements. | [15:41] |
| diana_coman: | lolz | [15:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | is it from india ? | [15:42] |
| hanbot: | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk8Q6MKnGfI | [15:42] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: seinfeld - ink a dink - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) | [15:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://trilema.com/cached_articles/life-van-buren.html << re the above mentioned crisis (the panic of 1837) | [15:44] |
| diana_coman: | chetty: I am stuck now on "you are already busy" | [15:44] |
| diana_coman: | I clicked (by mistake) "combine" on a the craft-table when loaded with random stuff | [15:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | hanbot ahaha | [15:45] |
| lobbes: | mircea_popescu, looks like I have arrived at the trainer | [15:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | aite. | [15:45] |
| diana_coman: | lobbes, do you want to build some claims? | [15:46] |
| diana_coman: | free exp, lol | [15:46] |
| lobbes: | yeah, sure. I have no idea how yet, but I'm down | [15:46] |
| diana_coman: | you'll get it quickly, anyway will go with you | [15:47] |
| mod6: | < mircea_popescu> mod6 i guess ain't much of a crafter, so then that's that << im like level 70-something so yeah, not really awesome or anything. | [15:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | more a matter of interest than level really. | [16:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman q 200 coming out | [16:00] |
| mod6: | ahh, yeah. it's basically that. | [16:01] |
| danielpbarron: | mircea_popescu> anyway. ima hold the announced auction in 3 hours ? that work for erryone interested ? << ya | [16:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | "Rich men became poor men. The prices of articles in which there had been speculation sank in the reaction far below their true value. The industrious and the prudent, who had given their labor and their real wealth for paper promises issued upon the credit of seemingly assured fortunes, suffered at once with men whose fortunes had never been anything better than the delusions of their hope and imagination." | [16:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah what a great piece that is. | [16:22] |
| chetty: | <diana_coman> chetty: I am stuck now on "you are already busy"// I hit that earlier too, just moving got me out of it. | [16:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | ditto. | [16:27] |
| chetty: | I will be looking at code to clean that up but dont want to patch for just that if I can help it | [16:28] |
| diana_coman: | makes sense, will keep trying to get that uglier stuff again | [16:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman q 200 flasks suit you then ? | [16:30] |
| danielpbarron: | oh did anyone else notice that new stuff doesn't get branded "crafted by:" anymore? | [16:30] |
| diana_coman: | I think so, lemme check 1 min | [16:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | it doesn't ? i hadn't. | [16:31] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron sometimes it gets for me, sometimes it doesn't? | [16:31] |
| danielpbarron: | ever since the week off | [16:31] |
| diana_coman: | oh, you mean the crafted stuff only | [16:31] |
| diana_coman: | I think that yes, indeed | [16:31] |
| chetty: | prolly left out a line of code :( | [16:32] |
| diana_coman: | nothing major | [16:32] |
| diana_coman: | yes mircea_popescu, I'll do the ltf run | [16:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | that means i'll be making some shaped slag. you wanna make tools out of it ? since i take it you don't wanna make more samovars. | [16:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | tools are needed because we're going to run out of toolkits | [16:35] |
| diana_coman: | yes | [16:35] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, I certainly have a lot of used hoes | [16:35] |
| diana_coman: | lolz | [16:35] |
| mod6: | haha | [16:35] |
| diana_coman: | and I'll use other tools too, it's just that I need about a ton of them to leave the bot | [16:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah need to make axes/adzes to clear off those stocks. | [16:35] |
| diana_coman: | as it changes tools, but only the same type | [16:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | well im thinking like 70 each | [16:36] |
| diana_coman: | so I can't leave it for hours with ..10 adzes only | [16:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | that'll use your sb nicely. | [16:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | and ima give you high q goop to go with it, if you get me some decent fruit | [16:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | like 500 or so | [16:36] |
| diana_coman: | rf is basic I think | [16:36] |
| diana_coman: | oh, 500 should be ok | [16:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh right. | [16:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm. | [16:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | well i want low q really. maybe take one of the noobs for a fruit scooba dive sometime | [16:37] |
| diana_coman: | I can check out how it goes | [16:37] |
| diana_coman: | I have only about 110 now | [16:38] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, if anyone comes... | [16:38] |
| diana_coman: | it kind of has to be synchronised(when I dig them up), as otherwise it's such a mess with the keys | [16:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah | [16:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | i been doing that thing too, with mike : pass them the tiny scrolls | [16:39] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, I pass tiny+small really | [16:40] |
| diana_coman: | let's see how it goes with lobbes now on some grass | [16:40] |
| diana_coman: | hopefully he gets to build them before they get swept away, lolz | [16:40] |
| diana_coman: | btw mircea_popescu the only thing so far really with the oil stuff is that wm are still basically rape to get with any tool | [16:50] |
| diana_coman: | I got in the end even 1 ordinary claim (with a cruddy hoe from the merchant) but did not get around to build it yet, will see if that truly compensates for the awful run (45 hoes no less) otherwise | [16:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | how about naked ? | [16:57] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, that would be the only thing, but kind of stupid of me to start doing that now really | [16:58] |
| diana_coman: | makes much more sense NOT TO MINE wm for now | [16:58] |
| diana_coman: | since I lose experience just mining naked for the sake of it | [16:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm | [16:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | i don't get how this can be simultaneously true | [16:59] |
| diana_coman: | at least when mining with a tool I get exp on gathering and therefore better go and mine grass ignoring smalls | [16:59] |
| lobbes: | diana_coman: aite, I have built all the claims. I'ma make my way back to the trader in a bit | [16:59] |
| diana_coman: | for one thing I get more ordinaries there by far | [17:00] |
| lobbes: | you got 670 clumps of grass coming your way | [17:00] |
| diana_coman: | cool lobbes, not bad at all | [17:00] |
| diana_coman: | so 670 grass out of 3 smalls an 10 tinies iirc | [17:00] |
| chetty: | oh, jurov is playing ....chetty braces for a crash | [17:00] |
| diana_coman: | with mp's thread, so 201q | [17:00] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu what is that you don't get? | [17:00] |
| diana_coman: | for the other thing I get grass which actually turns positive if I just chuck away the smalls even lolz | [17:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman not even sure how to formulate it. but it doesn't seem possible that AT THE SAME TIME using a tool and not using a tool are both bad. | [17:01] |
| jurov: | chetty crash is prevented by my inability to find anything at all exploring naked :( | [17:03] |
| diana_coman: | well, basically if the price is set free (which it will be if I just stop mining at a loss like stupid) then it is fine, no problem, wm will be expensive atm becuase that's how it is | [17:03] |
| diana_coman: | the base value might be base value, but we are too shitty hence we can't make it to sell for anything based on that | [17:03] |
| jurov: | has average gathering level left me so much behind? or the places changed? dunno | [17:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | jurov what q do you find / | [17:04] |
| chetty: | jurov, good things we got some more noobs playing, and maybe diana will stop mining .. | [17:04] |
| diana_coman: | ha ha | [17:04] |
| diana_coman: | jurov, want to come with me and build some claims I dig up? | [17:05] |
| jurov: | i found none so far, already died twice | [17:05] |
| diana_coman: | the deal is : I give you all tiny and small + thread for the smalls and you keep the exp + whatever you mine from tiny, but give me all you mine from smalls | [17:05] |
| diana_coman: | sounds good? | [17:05] |
| jurov: | diana_coman: yes but i wanted to check /mine still works | [17:05] |
| chetty: | thee is a /mine command? | [17:06] |
| diana_coman: | actually it should have gotten better for you with the new people joining (avg lower)? | [17:06] |
| diana_coman: | prolly his own | [17:06] |
| jurov: | chetty there's on my github | [17:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | actually finds stuff barehanded, occasionally. | [17:07] |
| chetty: | ahh, I havent gotten any client add-ons, enough trouble already keeping versions straight here | [17:08] |
| lobbes: | diana_coman, I'm at trader whenever you want those clumps | [17:13] |
| lobbes: | *trainer, rather | [17:13] |
| diana_coman: | oh, I'll be there in about 5-10 minutes if that's fine (doing another round of same thing with jurov) | [17:13] |
| lobbes: | sounds good, I'll be around | [17:14] |
| diana_coman: | maybe better come back down here too | [17:14] |
| diana_coman: | if you want another round? | [17:14] |
| diana_coman: | I'll get the grass and pass you on new claims | [17:14] |
| lobbes: | I would, though I'm gonna jump off for a bit | [17:14] |
| diana_coman: | ok | [17:14] |
| diana_coman: | jurov trade pls | [17:16] |
| diana_coman: | interesting development now: a few hours ago I was getting about 1 small for 6-7 tiny on grass | [17:18] |
| diana_coman: | now I got only tiny (about 12 of them ) and then bang an ordinary | [17:18] |
| diana_coman: | then again about 10 tiny and finally 1 small | [17:18] |
| diana_coman: | lolz | [17:18] |
| diana_coman: | lobbes, you still around or later? | [17:20] |
| lobbes: | I'm still here | [17:20] |
| diana_coman: | ok, will come in a sec | [17:21] |
| diana_coman: | jurov got 1 cdg out of 1 small with 7 threads at q201 , but he got it at 92q | [17:23] |
| diana_coman: | so yeah, this game's really for really low skill | [17:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | o.O | [17:23] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, it beats me even, lolz | [17:24] |
| diana_coman: | anyway, I have about 1.4 k grass and exactly 65 threads left, lol | [17:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | how the heck do you get 1 anyway, i always get 1 in claim and 1 apart. | [17:26] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, that's quite true for me too actually | [17:27] |
| diana_coman: | well, not for rare items to be fair | [17:28] |
| diana_coman: | but for common ones quite | [17:28] |
| jurov: | no i have more grasses.. but nothing in the log apparently | [17:28] |
| diana_coman: | ? | [17:28] |
| diana_coman: | so how many did you get in the end? | [17:28] |
| jurov: | 21 | [17:29] |
| diana_coman: | oh, that sounds more like it | [17:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | that's a diff story | [17:29] |
| diana_coman: | I've started a run on rf chucking away the smalls (if anyone wants them, let me know - jurov maybe?) | [17:32] |
| diana_coman: | quite curious how it goes | [17:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | i dunno, the ordinary i mined was terrible. | [17:32] |
| diana_coman: | oh my, it takes tlc, doesn't it? | [17:32] |
| jurov: | where? | [17:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman fruit ? yes. i got like 5 of em. | [17:33] |
| diana_coman: | 414 7 71 | [17:33] |
| diana_coman: | I have 2 or so too, but did not even look at them because of tlc | [17:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | hopefully auction unhinges that entire line | [17:34] |
| diana_coman: | jurov, if you come around basically (if my updated bot works fine) you should just find the key in the claim | [17:34] |
| diana_coman: | if I get any smalls.... | [17:34] |
| diana_coman: | well, so far at least I seem to get tiny pretty much all the time, so hopefully a few hundred should be ok in not so long | [17:35] |
| diana_coman: | will see how it ends up toolwise | [17:36] |
| diana_coman: | (have 2 smalls so far jurov | [17:36] |
| diana_coman: | and btw if you are after keys that will turn to bits of nothing, same tip: | [17:36] |
| diana_coman: | follow me and look into my claims | [17:36] |
| diana_coman: | as the bot puts the keys in the claim after it's done | [17:37] |
| jurov: | there's a boulder made by mad monky left lying | [17:37] |
| diana_coman: | a few boulders even | [17:37] |
| diana_coman: | obviously unloved by anyone | [17:37] |
| jurov: | another two made by yuo, too | [17:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol boulders are the carrier's. | [17:38] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, I think I dropped them at some point when pissed off with carrying a ton otherwise | [17:40] |
| diana_coman: | feel free to give them a loving home | [17:40] |
| jurov: | my capacity to haul 550 good for something at last | [17:41] |
| diana_coman: | I have 6 smalls so far, so come and get them | [17:41] |
| diana_coman: | rf claims | [17:41] |
| jurov: | yes, overshoot the running | [17:41] |
| jurov: | never seen claims so glued together | [17:42] |
| jurov: | you don't need to do that, rfs extend far into the bay | [17:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | her bot's asian. | [17:44] |
| jurov: | chetty /unguard is supported somehow? | [17:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | on teh list to be one day | [17:48] |
| diana_coman: | jurov, it's not that I need to | [17:50] |
| diana_coman: | they are glued as they are in the very same spot, lol | [17:50] |
| diana_coman: | I was just lazy now and tethered the bot very strictly, hence the mess | [17:50] |
| diana_coman: | can be a pain to build manually though, I know | [17:50] |
| diana_coman: | for all beginners, recap: http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/08/30/euloras-first-grade-how-to-get-a-skill-build-a-claim-make-your-own-grass-etc/ | [18:07] |
| lobbesbot: | News from dianacoman: Euloraâ\u0080\u0099s First Grade â\u0080\u0093 How to Get a Skill, Build a Claim, Make Your Own Grass etc. <http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/08/30/euloras-first-grade-how-to-get-a-skill-build-a-claim-make-your-own-grass-etc/> | [18:07] |
| diana_coman: | oh, forgot entirely about lobbesbot, but is it delayed or something, lobbes? | [18:21] |
| diana_coman: | so bot's mining strategy apparently should be along the lines: explore until find 1 rare claim, then move onto next rare item spot and repeat | [19:13] |
| diana_coman: | better off than insisting :)))) | [19:13] |
| danielpbarron: | there were a few stacks of grass that seem to have been "sold" to me for no copper, but i haven't checked any numbers to be sure | [19:38] |
| danielpbarron: | gave me message that my inventory was full and no message that sale had taken place and no money missing, but then when i go to storage there is a stack i can deposit | [19:39] |
| hanbot: | hm | [19:39] |
| danielpbarron: | several times in a row this happened to me, and then it started charging again | [19:39] |
| hanbot: | merchant has grass now ?! | [19:39] |
| diana_coman: | yes hanbot | [19:40] |
| diana_coman: | just got in | [19:40] |
| hanbot: | ooomg | [19:40] |
| diana_coman: | 1000 q | [19:41] |
| diana_coman: | jurov I guess there will be now high q thread to buy really | [19:43] |
| jurov: | i am making q 60.. maybe i can exchange if anyone wants | [19:43] |
| jurov: | lol it dropped 1K cft recipes for a run of 31? | [19:44] |
| jurov: | actually, about 2K recipes together( bct, dg, srs and few others) | [19:46] |
| diana_coman: | well, it's highly overcrafted if you use the 1000q grass | [19:46] |
| jurov: | no exotic stuff tho | [19:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | jurov i still buy low q thread, so dun worry bout that. | [19:55] |
| jurov: | yes. anyone sells, tho? | [19:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | by the looks of it ima be selling the q 200 threads for 500 ea | [19:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | should have at least 10k tomorrow. | [19:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | just finishing a lft run now so i can pass it off to foxy so she can have to do EVEN MORE mining lol | [19:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | after which ima do 10k threads | [19:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | btw foxy you planning to keep teh secret of ltc spot ? | [19:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | is kinda curious how that would work in practice | [19:58] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, not exactly, no | [19:58] |
| diana_coman: | how would that be a secret anyway, really? | [19:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | ya. IP doesn't work so well in eulora huh | [19:59] |
| diana_coman: | tbh atm not sure who else needs it really | [19:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | i'd buy 10k cash down | [19:59] |
| diana_coman: | 10k tlc you mean? | [19:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | ya | [19:59] |
| diana_coman: | I have no idea how it goes as per tool and small:tiny etc | [20:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | has already bought 30k grass | [20:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | shit that was expensive | [20:00] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, I bought about 25k | [20:00] |
| diana_coman: | if tlc is like wm and the like, it might still be a while before it makes any sense to mine it on that scale unless you are willing to pay like 5k per tlc minimum | [20:01] |
| diana_coman: | 166q | [20:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | what are you willing to payt per gin ? | [20:01] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, I want it but I am not in a big hurry with it really so I will certainly not pay some crazy stuff for it, I can wait with that | [20:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | gin is basically tlc + tubers, which are still rare. | [20:03] |
| diana_coman: | tubers are not rare? | [20:03] |
| diana_coman: | oh, you mean as in location not public? | [20:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | unfound ya | [20:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | or were they found ? | [20:03] |
| diana_coman: | daniel has found them for sure, I did not even look | [20:03] |
| diana_coman: | prolly I should start again the search | [20:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah ok | [20:04] |
| diana_coman: | those last days I was gathering data on the rares | [20:04] |
| diana_coman: | since I thought there was some interest in them | [20:04] |
| diana_coman: | ouch, made 100 grass at 1k bundle and not even 1 level up, so sad | [20:05] |
| diana_coman: | lol | [20:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | you got a bunch of mushrooms or which rares ? | [20:05] |
| diana_coman: | http://www.dianacoman.com/Eulora/foxystore.html | [20:05] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: Foxy's Useful Items (at www.dianacoman.com) | [20:05] |
| diana_coman: | the wares are there mainly, though I got meanwhile more... mhm, wm indeed | [20:06] |
| diana_coman: | and since you said you were not interested I made most of them oil, lol | [20:06] |
| diana_coman: | still have like 10 | [20:07] |
| diana_coman: | I guess rares can still wait really | [20:07] |
| diana_coman: | now that I have some thread I'll go get some rf | [20:08] |
| diana_coman: | and moss | [20:08] |
| diana_coman: | don't remember whether there was anything else you needed for the runs? | [20:08] |
| diana_coman: | oh, sb | [20:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | the lft is almost ready. if you wanna fill them into oil, you will need ~200 wm and ~600 moss. | [20:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | i also need ~500 rf to make goop for the eventual tools coming out of this. | [20:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | (for you). | [20:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | i also have enough goop to make toothpaste, which i will after making some thread. | [20:09] |
| diana_coman: | so yeah, that rf is the first part to fill (I already have about 200 anyway) | [20:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | then i'll need 12k sb to make sticks so you or a noob can make sticks | [20:10] |
| diana_coman: | the wm is the worst part, so I'll leave that to the end for sure | [20:10] |
| diana_coman: | so rf and then sb | [20:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | if ou have enough moss, yeah. | [20:10] |
| diana_coman: | unsurprisingly, NOT rares, lol | [20:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | i dunno, wm should be great, just tinymine it | [20:10] |
| diana_coman: | it's not! | [20:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | tiny doesnt yiele 1 ? | [20:10] |
| diana_coman: | didn't have that discussion already? | [20:10] |
| diana_coman: | it does | [20:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | so then! | [20:11] |
| diana_coman: | but either I mine with a tool and then shit | [20:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | shit what ? 1 wm pays for like 5 tool tries | [20:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | or more | [20:11] |
| diana_coman: | or I mine it bare-handed and then no exp when I could have gotten loads | [20:11] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, lately I did NOT get 1 tiny of wm out of 5 tries, lolz | [20:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh | [20:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | nasty | [20:12] |
| diana_coman: | and I tried several wm spots at that | [20:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | course you could take a stick to them | [20:12] |
| diana_coman: | just so that it's clear I did not just try that overused spot | [20:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | we ever even see ord or remarkable wm ? | [20:12] |
| diana_coman: | of course | [20:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | they bad ? | [20:12] |
| diana_coman: | I have 1 remarkable from a stick previously | [20:12] |
| diana_coman: | I can burn it | [20:12] |
| diana_coman: | I got one ordinary last night (bot run) | [20:13] |
| diana_coman: | from a cruddy hoe | [20:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | well if you get me a lot of tlc i can finally make fucking grubsilk | [20:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | and dig up my grass remarkables | [20:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | which are of course worthless now, but anyway | [20:13] |
| diana_coman: | I should build that (as the only possible chance that the run gets somehow miraculously positive) | [20:13] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, it's for grubsilk I want the gin too | [20:13] |
| diana_coman: | for one thing I want to make my fucking book again already | [20:14] |
| diana_coman: | lol | [20:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | hahaha | [20:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | i think it's also needed for the book tool. | [20:14] |
| diana_coman: | noobs might want that book too, lol | [20:14] |
| diana_coman: | quite curious actually if I make it to get another book for gathering maybe | [20:15] |
| diana_coman: | or if anyone else beats me to it | [20:15] |
| diana_coman: | I actually have a load of berries, weren't those needed for wine? | [20:17] |
| diana_coman: | do you have enough wine, danielpbarron? | [20:18] |
| diana_coman: | almost wine... | [20:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | how much for berries ? and you know "a lot", "berries". | [20:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | q, c etc. | [20:20] |
| diana_coman: | it's written there ! | [20:20] |
| diana_coman: | damn if I am going to keep saying it all over the place | [20:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | checks it out | [20:21] |
| diana_coman: | "928 WWB at 156q" | [20:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | 928 WWB at 156q, 240k ? | [20:21] |
| diana_coman: | mhm | [20:23] |
| diana_coman: | that's pretty much the starting price | [20:24] |
| diana_coman: | if nobody else wants them, yeah | [20:24] |
| diana_coman: | anyway, will leave it for tomorrow as I'm off for the night, it's not a must right now, is it | [20:25] |
| diana_coman: | ? | [20:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | nah | [20:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | just strategic | [20:40] |
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