#eulora Logs for 28 Aug 2015



August 28th, 2015 by Diana Coman
chetty: morning [06:02]
chetty: so anyone have any problems to report? [07:43]
diana_coman: hello [08:39]
diana_coman: chetty there is one thing I noticed: it can get totally stuck on a failed craft (even manually) [08:40]
diana_coman: more precisely: if I try to craft and it fails for some reason (such as no recipe even as far as I saw) [08:40]
diana_coman: after that it's really quite stuck as it considers that I am "working" [08:40]
diana_coman: but it won't get out of it at all [08:40]
diana_coman: (tried sitting down or moving or picking up stuff and no luck) [08:41]
diana_coman: the only solution I found was to log out and back in again really [08:43]
chetty: hmm ok, should be getting an error message and a mode reset, but I guess its possible I didnt find every possible condition. Maybe I should add a command to stop working [08:48]
chetty: I know I have seen it work wqhen no recipe ...but I will test that again to be sure [08:48]
diana_coman: thanks [08:49]
diana_coman: I saw it a couple of times, but I did not manage to truly test it properly to be able to give a clearer report, sorry [08:49]
chetty: did you try just moving? [08:49]
diana_coman: yes [08:49]
diana_coman: I could move, but the problem persisted [08:50]
chetty: stayed working after you moved? now thats really nuts [08:50]
diana_coman: I would agree, but ... [08:50]
diana_coman: basically it was the mode set I guess as otherwise it wasn't truly working, of course [08:50]
chetty: well the reset of mode there is not even the same code as the rest of it, whole different path so .. [08:51]
chetty: were you overweight by chance? [08:52]
diana_coman: no, as I could move [08:52]
diana_coman: I have 4 ordinary grass claims - do you want them, danielpbarron? [10:45]
diana_coman: or anyone else for that matter [10:45]
danielpbarron: yes [12:04]
mircea_popescu: (03:51:56) >Mircea has managed 0.17 BTC worth of crafting! Congratulations! o.O [12:31]
mircea_popescu: anyone want 1k imp cruddy hoe bps ? :D [12:31]
chetty: thats a nice size loot, grats [12:36]
mircea_popescu: ima go buy myself breakfast with eulora crafting gains. [12:37]
mircea_popescu: and if the waitress asks me how i got it, i'ma say I MADE HOES, BIATCH!!!1 [12:37]
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, i do [13:01]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron they're ~8.6k at merchant each, on account of being q 200ish. [13:02]
mircea_popescu: whatcha paying ? [13:02]
danielpbarron: 12 million [13:04]
mircea_popescu: hmm [13:07]
mircea_popescu: eh you knwhat, screw it, you get it. [13:07]
mircea_popescu: you in game ? [13:07]
danielpbarron: ya [13:07]
mircea_popescu: aite coming in [13:08]
mircea_popescu: sweet. [13:10]
mircea_popescu: you know at first this imp hoe craft seemed like utter insanity, i bought hoes off electron and made my own tacks for high quality. q200 slag/tacks + 3 hoes = 60k bundles or thereabouts, and i was gonna do like 150 of them. [13:12]
mircea_popescu: and you know, the way i figured it, i'm losing the 35\% on the hoes, that's 10k a click, at the very least. + whatever else i might lose from the craft. so it looked like a possible 5+ mn hole. [13:12]
mircea_popescu: but in fact i made ~20mn in profit from it. [13:13]
danielpbarron: i found a "sizeable" grass claim [13:13]
danielpbarron: and also got over 20k from a small [13:13]
mircea_popescu: holy shit. [13:13]
danielpbarron: sizeable is worth a little under 0.04 base [13:14]
danielpbarron: just the enumeration [13:14]
mircea_popescu: o.O [13:14]
mircea_popescu: mgith be first sizable i ngame [13:15]
mircea_popescu: what did oyu get it with ? [13:15]
danielpbarron: lol you think i could have mined it yet? [13:15]
danielpbarron: i have remarkables saved up that i can't mine [13:15]
mircea_popescu: no i mean, what tool [13:16]
danielpbarron: oh [13:16]
danielpbarron: haha [13:16]
danielpbarron: store bought cruddy hoe [13:16]
danielpbarron: mega l0l [13:16]
mircea_popescu: o.O [13:16]
danielpbarron: diana_coman, ping [15:10]
diana_coman: pong danielpbarron, lol [15:29]
mircea_popescu: so for teh record : sunday after sacrifice auction, ima auction my own 100 imp cruddy hoes bundle. [15:37]
mircea_popescu: they're like 28k odd durability so ima start it at 3mn [15:37]
mircea_popescu: and also i need like... 1mn fucking gras. and also 70k or some shit sb. [15:37]
diana_coman: congrats mircea_popescu on the loot [15:39]
mircea_popescu: aha! [15:39]
mircea_popescu: ty :) [15:39]
diana_coman: will let you know if my luck decides to actually materialise in anything that would go towards those k's and k's of stuff, but so far nothing, lol [15:40]
danielpbarron: i noticed that the quality of my grass reduced from 284 to 178 after my big score [15:41]
danielpbarron: the 20k are 284 quality, new stuff comes out 178 [15:41]
danielpbarron: err [15:41]
danielpbarron: 278* [15:41]
diana_coman: so far it's more likely that I'll get k's of worn out hoes much faster than that kind of loot, lol [15:41]
diana_coman: what quality do you get on rare stuff, danielpbarron? [15:42]
diana_coman: has that changed too? [15:42]
danielpbarron: i don't mine rare stuff [15:42]
danielpbarron: so i wouldn't know [15:42]
diana_coman: oh, ok [15:42]
danielpbarron: but this leads me to believe that quality is also dependant on some global pool of loot or something [15:42]
diana_coman: has no idea whatsoever on that [15:43]
danielpbarron: my hypothesis is that quality for all players slowly goes up as the pool grows, until someone hits a jackpot [15:43]
danielpbarron: or did nobody else notice a reduction in quality? [15:43]
diana_coman: uhm [15:43]
diana_coman: fwiw I didn't [15:43]
danielpbarron: maybe this means i was overtaken in building by someone [15:43]
danielpbarron: odd timing of it though [15:43]
mircea_popescu: my grass used to be 320 now its more like 200 [15:44]
mircea_popescu: which totally takes me out of the grass game, im not gonna mine grass at 200 to make thread at 200. [15:44]
danielpbarron: how could yours have gone down? [15:46]
danielpbarron: that i do not understand [15:46]
diana_coman: but mircea_popescu isn't it that you didn't really mine anything in quite a while? [15:46]
mircea_popescu: yea [15:46]
diana_coman: I think people have been quite busy mining/exploring [15:46]
mircea_popescu: haven't done any serious mining in maybe two weeks now [15:46]
diana_coman: so yeah, not surprised your qual got lower [15:46]
mircea_popescu: cuz too busy crafting [15:46]
diana_coman: so I guess that's that [15:46]
danielpbarron: his quality can go down even if nobody has overtaken him? [15:46]
diana_coman: lol danielpbarron how is that nobody has overtaken him? [15:47]
mircea_popescu: i dunno that this overtake business has any merit. [15:47]
danielpbarron: well my grass isn't 200 yet [15:47]
danielpbarron: er [15:47]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman im pretty sure im still above him on commons [15:47]
danielpbarron: oh wait [15:47]
diana_coman: he wasn't that high at building/gathering [15:47]
danielpbarron: oh neat so i overtook you in building? [15:47]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron doubt it, but what's yours ? [15:47]
danielpbarron: well my big score came out 284 [15:48]
danielpbarron: and now i get 278 [15:48]
mircea_popescu: no i mean building skill [15:48]
danielpbarron: that is confidential :D [15:48]
mircea_popescu: lol k. [15:48]
diana_coman: danielpbarron just mine 1 single rare thing [15:48]
mircea_popescu: ima go get some mining after these hoes are done to see exactly 200 what. [15:48]
diana_coman: and tell the quality of that, will you? [15:48]
danielpbarron: lol [15:49]
danielpbarron: you first [15:49]
diana_coman: uhm, it's public for me already since I'm selling them, lol [15:49]
diana_coman: I get 164 now on rare [15:49]
diana_coman: quality [15:49]
diana_coman: what was there you didn't know? [15:49]
diana_coman: lolz [15:50]
danielpbarron: i think i'm at 145 [15:50]
danielpbarron: quality [15:50]
diana_coman: think? [15:50]
diana_coman: lol [15:50]
danielpbarron: without going out and mining a fresh one [15:50]
danielpbarron: i found eggs in my storage with that quality [15:50]
danielpbarron: sometimes i mine an egg near the grass [15:50]
diana_coman: yes, there are eggs there [15:51]
diana_coman: I got an ordinary for eggs [15:51]
diana_coman: gave me shit of course [15:51]
diana_coman: unrelated: I think the client might go at some point the same way as the server did and get to do one crash too many [15:52]
chetty: your client crashes so much? thats odd, what os are you running it on? [15:53]
mircea_popescu: my client crashed once also. [15:54]
mircea_popescu: but not the server. [15:54]
chetty: crappy as the client code is mine has crashed maybe twice the whole time i have been using it. And I do a lot of testing with it [15:55]
diana_coman: not like a whole lot in absolute terms I suppose, but if it does that once every time I leave it for more than 3-4 hours, it gets quickly to be "a lot" for me [15:55]
chetty: ahhh now that I can see ... [15:55]
chetty: well really no reason things like crafting couldnt be done from a text interface :) [15:56]
danielpbarron: i would very much love a command line client [15:56]
diana_coman: as for os: it's xubuntu 14.04 [15:56]
diana_coman: yeah, I was going on about that some time ago [15:56]
danielpbarron: until there is PvP or EvP or whatever, I don't need to see the world [15:57]
danielpbarron: oh and I love the changes to the server [15:58]
danielpbarron: i can't recall the time it last crashed [15:58]
danielpbarron: my crafting went all through the night with no interruption [15:59]
mircea_popescu: awesome huh. mine too. [15:59]
danielpbarron: my tiny-mining macro no longer misses x\% [15:59]
danielpbarron: it used to be that lag or whatever would cause it to miss fire on like 5 to 10 tinies per tool [15:59]
chetty: amazing what a week of time to actually concentrate on the code will do :D [16:01]
chetty: diana_coman, that seems like a lot of crashes for 14.04, I am on 12.04 and dont see that, usually only has issues if I tab out while its loading [16:02]
diana_coman: I haven't really investigated to try and see what exact part of code is to blame, but it's certainly after running for a while [16:03]
diana_coman: the changes to the server though are great, absolutely [16:04]
chetty: I am waiting to see how long it survives when jurov logs on :P [16:08]
diana_coman: hmmm, if base price is anything to go by, than TLC should be the next rare item to be find even with rather little luck [16:53]
mircea_popescu: honestly i think the stick can find anything, you just gotta be there. [16:57]
diana_coman: lolz, I meant finding out where they are [17:00]
mircea_popescu: a [17:00]
diana_coman: and otherwise the canines seem to be even more expensive than st [17:00]
diana_coman: so whatever [17:00]
mircea_popescu: you found em ? [17:01]
diana_coman: are you kidding me? they are 5411 base value, lol [17:02]
diana_coman: no [17:02]
diana_coman: I still have a stash though [17:02]
diana_coman: for comp: st are 5093 base value [17:02]
mircea_popescu: wasn't ti more liek 2k ? [17:03]
diana_coman: well, that's what the merchant says at 100q [17:03]
mircea_popescu: aha [17:04]
diana_coman: unless I got some numbers wrong [17:04]
diana_coman: all the above are at 100q [17:04]
diana_coman: made the whole list [17:04]
diana_coman: LH are 721 [17:04]
diana_coman: md 664 [17:04]
diana_coman: and tlc 1096 [17:05]
diana_coman: quite a jump [17:05]
mircea_popescu: wm ? [17:05]
diana_coman: 778 wm [17:05]
mircea_popescu: that actuall seems right [17:05]
diana_coman: ae are a measly 383, which fits in as they have been found for ages [17:06]
diana_coman: bbb at 197 too [17:06]
diana_coman: and tpt at 159 [17:06]
chetty: watching you guys try to figure out exactly what all the numbers do is really fun :) [17:20]
diana_coman: esp since "try" is all we really can :p [17:23]
mircea_popescu: bdsm! [17:24]
mircea_popescu: "first, tie down the player. then, poke and prod. then watch." [17:24]

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