mircea_popescu: | Soo... server is back. diana_coman danielpbarron jurov mod6 an' all teh other hardcores an' casuals! | [04:53] |
diana_coman: | yay | [04:53] |
mircea_popescu: | and the auction http://trilema.com/2015/sunday-august-16th-event-another-auction/ is moved for Sun, 30th | [04:53] |
lobbesbot: | Title: Sunday, August 16th event : Another auction! on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. (at trilema.com) | [04:53] |
chetty: | well this has not been tested with folks running bots all over the place so we shall see today | [04:55] |
diana_coman: | so far a mini-test of the explore bot is still perfectly fine | [04:57] |
mircea_popescu: | coolness! | [04:57] |
diana_coman: | but that one has always been fine really | [04:57] |
mircea_popescu: | ahh this is sure nice, that feeling when you know your avatar's working. | [04:57] |
diana_coman: | yesssss | [04:57] |
mircea_popescu: | almost like you know, there's two of you and even if you slack off... someone's doing something. | [04:57] |
diana_coman: | ha ha, quite | [04:57] |
diana_coman: | it just felt...slow :D | [04:57] |
mircea_popescu: | i think this is the future. | [04:57] |
diana_coman: | gotta cut some times down really, as it's soooo lazy | [04:58] |
mircea_popescu: | anyway. im making 10 dozen imp hoes. | [04:58] |
diana_coman: | cool, will want some | [04:58] |
diana_coman: | but any cft? | [04:58] |
diana_coman: | from all that grass? | [04:58] |
mircea_popescu: | ow shit i should prolly prioritize it huh | [04:58] |
diana_coman: | I am out of it for sure | [04:58] |
mircea_popescu: | tell you what when i go in to make level ima switch over to cft. | [04:59] |
diana_coman: | I think I sold you about 2k at least and will dig more, but yeah | [04:59] |
mircea_popescu: | kinda forgot what was what | [04:59] |
diana_coman: | I know that feeling - I was kind of looking around "what was I doing?" when I got back in ,lol | [04:59] |
chetty: | so thats 2 different bots running? things look pretty good from here ;) | [05:03] |
diana_coman: | sounds great then, chetty :) | [05:04] |
diana_coman: | I have the old explore bot on, yes | [05:04] |
diana_coman: | will have to test again the craft bot too I suppose, but maybe later | [05:04] |
chetty: | I think you may have some issues with the craft bot of yours, but shouldnt be too bad | [05:05] |
diana_coman: | it needed anyway a bit of refactoring for sure as it was messed up by trying to fit with all the weird stuff | [05:05] |
diana_coman: | so hopefully now it can be cleaned and fine | [05:06] |
diana_coman: | uhm | [05:06] |
diana_coman: | there seems to be something with changing tools now of all things | [05:06] |
chetty: | you change tools while it was exploring? | [05:08] |
diana_coman: | no | [05:08] |
diana_coman: | it pauses and changes tool | [05:08] |
diana_coman: | if it is worn out | [05:08] |
chetty: | lmao | [05:08] |
diana_coman: | but now it doesn't seem to manage to do that now | [05:08] |
diana_coman: | so will have to see why | [05:08] |
diana_coman: | it used to work fine, lol | [05:09] |
diana_coman: | well, it needs to do it, doesn't it? | [05:09] |
diana_coman: | as otherwise there is no point really, it will go through a tool quite quickly | [05:09] |
chetty: | ahh well I didnt think of bots doing that, so not sure, message may come at a slightly different place | [05:09] |
diana_coman: | ahaha, lol | [05:10] |
diana_coman: | the message has changed | [05:10] |
diana_coman: | lolz | [05:10] |
diana_coman: | I think it's just that the text of the message changed slightly for some reason, lol | [05:10] |
diana_coman: | "that tool is not useful" (new) vs "the tool is too worn to be useful" (old) | [05:11] |
chetty: | ah, yeah I rewrote so much, may have a few slightly different messages at that | [05:11] |
diana_coman: | well, I did think I should probably get those in an external file or something but didn't get to that part really, so ... | [05:12] |
diana_coman: | it's minor anyway, the rest works fine: exploring, building, locking, moving key to claim after getting the stuff out of it, movement | [05:14] |
diana_coman: | all well :) | [05:14] |
chetty: | excellent, I really hoped I would goof up the bots too much. Mircea has been testing some with the just clicker bot | [05:15] |
chetty: | *wouldn't | [05:16] |
diana_coman: | no worries chetty, that must have been a ton of work anyway :) | [05:17] |
chetty: | has been very busy | [05:18] |
diana_coman: | I can happily report that the craft bot actually works *better* now, thank you, chetty! | [06:07] |
diana_coman: | (it is a version slightly improved over the one released, but it's as it was before the server went down | [06:08] |
diana_coman: | and more precisely: it doesn't get stuck anymore for weird reasons when getting things out of storage | [06:10] |
chetty: | ah very cool | [06:30] |
mircea_popescu: | ha! | [06:31] |
chetty: | diana_coman, I see a few fails from your bot, not sure but it may be taking a little too soon, will have to study log a bit tho to be sure | [06:40] |
diana_coman: | no, that was me messing up with it :D | [06:40] |
chetty: | oh, haha | [06:40] |
diana_coman: | yeah, it did fail when I started closing the windows it had opened and thus severing its link to storage while poor thing was in the process of getting things out | [06:41] |
diana_coman: | I was stress-testing it a bit tbh, but that's clearly something for the bot itself, nothing to do with the server | [06:41] |
chetty: | well at least it just fails, not crashes :) | [06:42] |
diana_coman: | meanwhile it made about 100 slag (+ training in between) no worries | [06:42] |
diana_coman: | I was trying to gauge a bit whether it makes sense to get back to the original design of relying mainly on messages rather than just scheduling action | [06:44] |
chetty: | I think you can, actually | [06:44] |
diana_coman: | yes, now it would seem so | [06:44] |
diana_coman: | maybe keep the scheduling only as a failsafe | [06:44] |
diana_coman: | and that's actually excellent news, as it's basically as quick as it can get | [06:50] |
chetty: | saw another bunch of fails | [08:05] |
diana_coman: | are they fails at getting things from the table? | [08:05] |
diana_coman: | (it had gotten stuck due to trying to train while overweight - this is something I should fix as it did not consider the problem ) | [08:06] |
chetty: | hmm maybe bad target so yeah that would fail to get with no target | [08:06] |
diana_coman: | it's prolly that, as otherwise it crafted hundreds of slag without any trouble at all | [08:07] |
chetty: | and yeah you are overweight for sure | [08:07] |
diana_coman: | yeah, I want it to use some very specific ingredients quality-wise | [08:07] |
diana_coman: | hence I'd rather not let it grab the first thing from storage | [08:07] |
chetty: | well the fail is the craft itelf, it has finished a combine step and then cant do the scheduled transform | [08:08] |
chetty: | so looks like making a lot of slag bundles | [08:09] |
diana_coman: | that sounds weird to me | [08:12] |
diana_coman: | from where I see it, I just get the slag no problem | [08:13] |
diana_coman: | did not have even one single bundle | [08:13] |
diana_coman: | not sure what is going on | [08:13] |
chetty: | ahh well thats good to know, the issue is my log, not your bot :) | [08:14] |
chetty: | makes note to fix that log statement :) | [08:15] |
diana_coman: | oh, did not even think of that one, the log remaining behind the server as it were | [08:15] |
chetty: | well I got a huge amount of log here, figured overload for a couple days after coming back online would be a good thing | [08:16] |
diana_coman: | sounds entirely logical to me | [08:17] |
diana_coman: | anyway the next thing to see is whether there are still the issues that seemed to appear when more people were doing the same thing | [08:18] |
diana_coman: | as in: no outcome for explore or combine | [08:18] |
chetty: | yeah all we could pre-test was Mircea using a click bot and me doing stuff by hand, couldnt make any of those errors but ... | [08:19] |
diana_coman: | I guess as a test env you could perhaps have several accounts running the craft bot (or other bots) | [08:20] |
chetty: | well I got a finite number of machines ... | [08:20] |
diana_coman: | hmmm, virtual machines maybe? | [08:21] |
chetty: | might as well use my laptop .... 5 or fps? | [08:21] |
diana_coman: | ugh | [08:21] |
diana_coman: | lol | [08:21] |
diana_coman: | with those bots I am getting more and more inclined to think of a stripped-down kind of text-based version of the client, but I am keeping away from that particular ton of work atm :))) | [08:24] |
chetty: | yeah, I was working on some stuff similar to that for superclient but I got a bit diverted | [08:27] |
chetty: | danielpbarron, what exactly are you doing? I see a lot of small clump of grass markers but I cant tell right off if those mines are building ok or not | [09:57] |
danielpbarron: | xmacro script that tries to mine all claims like they are tiny | [09:58] |
danielpbarron: | then when the tool wears out i stop it and go back to the smalls | [09:58] |
chetty: | ah ok that would explain what I see | [09:59] |
diana_coman: | uhm, the first weird thing, chetty, not sure how/why: I got a message that I did not have the right amount of ingredients although it was the right amount etc | [11:16] |
diana_coman: | I clicked again on combine and then it said that it stopped working | [11:17] |
diana_coman: | another click on combine and it just picked up from where it had left | [11:17] |
diana_coman: | and then it worked fine | [11:17] |
chetty: | odd diana_coman I'll see if I can find anything in the logs, let me know if it happens again pls | [12:18] |
diana_coman: | oddly enough now the toolkit crafting seems to get interrupted every time and I'm not sure why | [12:18] |
diana_coman: | it reports that I "moved" | [12:19] |
diana_coman: | but that's not true | [12:19] |
chetty: | everytime? | [12:19] |
diana_coman: | yeah | [12:19] |
diana_coman: | well, at least the 10 times I kept trying with the bot | [12:19] |
diana_coman: | it's ok manually | [12:19] |
diana_coman: | so it's a bot thing | [12:19] |
diana_coman: | but not sure what and why only on the toolkit | [12:19] |
chetty: | well I know MP tested it with the click bot too, sooo | [12:19] |
diana_coman: | it doesn't have this problem with the craft table | [12:20] |
diana_coman: | well, probably the scheduler approach is still best as more robust | [12:20] |
chetty: | well craftable doesnt decay really so process may have very slight diffs | [12:20] |
diana_coman: | maybe just adjust the timings for maximum speed | [12:20] |
diana_coman: | possibly | [12:20] |
danielpbarron: | down | [13:49] |
diana_coman: | ouch, down indeed | [13:56] |
diana_coman: | chetty or mircea_popescu? ^ | [13:56] |
chetty: | oi, first crash | [14:12] |
chetty: | danielpbarron, can you say what you did just before crash? | [14:15] |
danielpbarron: | had a macro going that made threads | [14:15] |
chetty: | hmm very odd, is your connection good? | [14:17] |
danielpbarron: | it disconnected earlier today for the first time in a long while | [14:18] |
danielpbarron: | my internet had a hicup that dropped me from eulora and irc | [14:19] |
chetty: | it sorta looks like you had a connection burp there and it couldnt find you, not that it needed to, was just for the logs guess I should cut a bit of this over logging. | [14:20] |
diana_coman: | a bit earlier I was dropping out repeatedly although I have no idea why as the connection was good and everything else remained connected | [14:23] |
diana_coman: | it really looked as if I was being kicked out for some reason, as it also always seemed to happen precisely when I was finishing some crafting (imp tools) | [14:23] |
diana_coman: | not sure if that is related in any way, but just in case... | [14:23] |
lobbes: | @RSS announce add dianacoman | [14:33] |
lobbesbot: | lobbes: The operation succeeded. | [14:33] |
danielpbarron: | down | [14:43] |
chetty: | oh wow danielpbarron smame spot | [14:43] |
chetty: | give me a couple minutes gona remove this log entry | [14:44] |
chetty: | ok, hopes this holds now | [14:46] |
mircea_popescu: | o.O | [15:46] |
mircea_popescu: | "Or in my case, re-write a cooking book. So ladies and gentlorans, I give you Foxy\u0092s Euloran Cookbook V1.1," | [16:04] |
mircea_popescu: | lol | [16:04] |
mircea_popescu: | meh god damned crafter did TWO fucking tools whiule i was away | [16:40] |
mircea_popescu: | bloody shit. | [16:40] |
chetty: | eh | [16:55] |
chetty: | well I got no power | [16:55] |
chetty: | but server has (had) been running well while I could see it, one flub seemed to be more an issue with my log than anything else | [16:56] |
chetty: | did that crash knock you off or was it something elsr? I got no clue really about time frame means 'while I was away' | [16:57] |
mircea_popescu: | i think i hjad it badly set up | [17:28] |
mircea_popescu: | tbh | [17:28] |
lobbesbot: | News from dianacoman: A Lotus by Any Other Nameâ\u0080\u0099sâ\u0080¦a Harlot? <http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/08/26/a-lotus-by-any-other-names-a-harlot/> | [17:35] |
diana_coman: | oh, wow, thanks lobbes | [17:36] |
lobbes: | np :D | [17:39] |
lobbes: | if anyone else has a eulora-related blog they want added to the bot, let me know | [17:41] |
mircea_popescu: | coolness | [19:04] |
diana_coman: | mircea_popescu I'm still working on a samovar | [19:14] |
diana_coman: | not sure how long it will still take, but probably around 10 minutes I'd say | [19:14] |
mircea_popescu: | kk | [19:23] |
diana_coman: | it's done | [19:25] |
diana_coman: | ready to trade when you are, mircea_popescu | [19:25] |
mircea_popescu: | alrighty | [19:25] |
mircea_popescu: | yep it was all me. set the wrong clickings | [21:17] |
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