#eulora Logs for 26 Aug 2015



August 26th, 2015 by Diana Coman
mircea_popescu: Soo... server is back. diana_coman danielpbarron jurov mod6 an' all teh other hardcores an' casuals! [04:53]
diana_coman: yay [04:53]
mircea_popescu: and the auction http://trilema.com/2015/sunday-august-16th-event-another-auction/ is moved for Sun, 30th [04:53]
lobbesbot: Title: Sunday, August 16th event : Another auction! on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. (at trilema.com) [04:53]
chetty: well this has not been tested with folks running bots all over the place so we shall see today [04:55]
diana_coman: so far a mini-test of the explore bot is still perfectly fine [04:57]
mircea_popescu: coolness! [04:57]
diana_coman: but that one has always been fine really [04:57]
mircea_popescu: ahh this is sure nice, that feeling when you know your avatar's working. [04:57]
diana_coman: yesssss [04:57]
mircea_popescu: almost like you know, there's two of you and even if you slack off... someone's doing something. [04:57]
diana_coman: ha ha, quite [04:57]
diana_coman: it just felt...slow :D [04:57]
mircea_popescu: i think this is the future. [04:57]
diana_coman: gotta cut some times down really, as it's soooo lazy [04:58]
mircea_popescu: anyway. im making 10 dozen imp hoes. [04:58]
diana_coman: cool, will want some [04:58]
diana_coman: but any cft? [04:58]
diana_coman: from all that grass? [04:58]
mircea_popescu: ow shit i should prolly prioritize it huh [04:58]
diana_coman: I am out of it for sure [04:58]
mircea_popescu: tell you what when i go in to make level ima switch over to cft. [04:59]
diana_coman: I think I sold you about 2k at least and will dig more, but yeah [04:59]
mircea_popescu: kinda forgot what was what [04:59]
diana_coman: I know that feeling - I was kind of looking around "what was I doing?" when I got back in ,lol [04:59]
chetty: so thats 2 different bots running? things look pretty good from here ;) [05:03]
diana_coman: sounds great then, chetty :) [05:04]
diana_coman: I have the old explore bot on, yes [05:04]
diana_coman: will have to test again the craft bot too I suppose, but maybe later [05:04]
chetty: I think you may have some issues with the craft bot of yours, but shouldnt be too bad [05:05]
diana_coman: it needed anyway a bit of refactoring for sure as it was messed up by trying to fit with all the weird stuff [05:05]
diana_coman: so hopefully now it can be cleaned and fine [05:06]
diana_coman: uhm [05:06]
diana_coman: there seems to be something with changing tools now of all things [05:06]
chetty: you change tools while it was exploring? [05:08]
diana_coman: no [05:08]
diana_coman: it pauses and changes tool [05:08]
diana_coman: if it is worn out [05:08]
chetty: lmao [05:08]
diana_coman: but now it doesn't seem to manage to do that now [05:08]
diana_coman: so will have to see why [05:08]
diana_coman: it used to work fine, lol [05:09]
diana_coman: well, it needs to do it, doesn't it? [05:09]
diana_coman: as otherwise there is no point really, it will go through a tool quite quickly [05:09]
chetty: ahh well I didnt think of bots doing that, so not sure, message may come at a slightly different place [05:09]
diana_coman: ahaha, lol [05:10]
diana_coman: the message has changed [05:10]
diana_coman: lolz [05:10]
diana_coman: I think it's just that the text of the message changed slightly for some reason, lol [05:10]
diana_coman: "that tool is not useful" (new) vs "the tool is too worn to be useful" (old) [05:11]
chetty: ah, yeah I rewrote so much, may have a few slightly different messages at that [05:11]
diana_coman: well, I did think I should probably get those in an external file or something but didn't get to that part really, so ... [05:12]
diana_coman: it's minor anyway, the rest works fine: exploring, building, locking, moving key to claim after getting the stuff out of it, movement [05:14]
diana_coman: all well :) [05:14]
chetty: excellent, I really hoped I would goof up the bots too much. Mircea has been testing some with the just clicker bot [05:15]
chetty: *wouldn't [05:16]
diana_coman: no worries chetty, that must have been a ton of work anyway :) [05:17]
chetty: has been very busy [05:18]
diana_coman: I can happily report that the craft bot actually works *better* now, thank you, chetty! [06:07]
diana_coman: (it is a version slightly improved over the one released, but it's as it was before the server went down [06:08]
diana_coman: and more precisely: it doesn't get stuck anymore for weird reasons when getting things out of storage [06:10]
chetty: ah very cool [06:30]
mircea_popescu: ha! [06:31]
chetty: diana_coman, I see a few fails from your bot, not sure but it may be taking a little too soon, will have to study log a bit tho to be sure [06:40]
diana_coman: no, that was me messing up with it :D [06:40]
chetty: oh, haha [06:40]
diana_coman: yeah, it did fail when I started closing the windows it had opened and thus severing its link to storage while poor thing was in the process of getting things out [06:41]
diana_coman: I was stress-testing it a bit tbh, but that's clearly something for the bot itself, nothing to do with the server [06:41]
chetty: well at least it just fails, not crashes :) [06:42]
diana_coman: meanwhile it made about 100 slag (+ training in between) no worries [06:42]
diana_coman: I was trying to gauge a bit whether it makes sense to get back to the original design of relying mainly on messages rather than just scheduling action [06:44]
chetty: I think you can, actually [06:44]
diana_coman: yes, now it would seem so [06:44]
diana_coman: maybe keep the scheduling only as a failsafe [06:44]
diana_coman: and that's actually excellent news, as it's basically as quick as it can get [06:50]
chetty: saw another bunch of fails [08:05]
diana_coman: are they fails at getting things from the table? [08:05]
diana_coman: (it had gotten stuck due to trying to train while overweight - this is something I should fix as it did not consider the problem ) [08:06]
chetty: hmm maybe bad target so yeah that would fail to get with no target [08:06]
diana_coman: it's prolly that, as otherwise it crafted hundreds of slag without any trouble at all [08:07]
chetty: and yeah you are overweight for sure [08:07]
diana_coman: yeah, I want it to use some very specific ingredients quality-wise [08:07]
diana_coman: hence I'd rather not let it grab the first thing from storage [08:07]
chetty: well the fail is the craft itelf, it has finished a combine step and then cant do the scheduled transform [08:08]
chetty: so looks like making a lot of slag bundles [08:09]
diana_coman: that sounds weird to me [08:12]
diana_coman: from where I see it, I just get the slag no problem [08:13]
diana_coman: did not have even one single bundle [08:13]
diana_coman: not sure what is going on [08:13]
chetty: ahh well thats good to know, the issue is my log, not your bot :) [08:14]
chetty: makes note to fix that log statement :) [08:15]
diana_coman: oh, did not even think of that one, the log remaining behind the server as it were [08:15]
chetty: well I got a huge amount of log here, figured overload for a couple days after coming back online would be a good thing [08:16]
diana_coman: sounds entirely logical to me [08:17]
diana_coman: anyway the next thing to see is whether there are still the issues that seemed to appear when more people were doing the same thing [08:18]
diana_coman: as in: no outcome for explore or combine [08:18]
chetty: yeah all we could pre-test was Mircea using a click bot and me doing stuff by hand, couldnt make any of those errors but ... [08:19]
diana_coman: I guess as a test env you could perhaps have several accounts running the craft bot (or other bots) [08:20]
chetty: well I got a finite number of machines ... [08:20]
diana_coman: hmmm, virtual machines maybe? [08:21]
chetty: might as well use my laptop .... 5 or fps? [08:21]
diana_coman: ugh [08:21]
diana_coman: lol [08:21]
diana_coman: with those bots I am getting more and more inclined to think of a stripped-down kind of text-based version of the client, but I am keeping away from that particular ton of work atm :))) [08:24]
chetty: yeah, I was working on some stuff similar to that for superclient but I got a bit diverted [08:27]
chetty: danielpbarron, what exactly are you doing? I see a lot of small clump of grass markers but I cant tell right off if those mines are building ok or not [09:57]
danielpbarron: xmacro script that tries to mine all claims like they are tiny [09:58]
danielpbarron: then when the tool wears out i stop it and go back to the smalls [09:58]
chetty: ah ok that would explain what I see [09:59]
diana_coman: uhm, the first weird thing, chetty, not sure how/why: I got a message that I did not have the right amount of ingredients although it was the right amount etc [11:16]
diana_coman: I clicked again on combine and then it said that it stopped working [11:17]
diana_coman: another click on combine and it just picked up from where it had left [11:17]
diana_coman: and then it worked fine [11:17]
chetty: odd diana_coman I'll see if I can find anything in the logs, let me know if it happens again pls [12:18]
diana_coman: oddly enough now the toolkit crafting seems to get interrupted every time and I'm not sure why [12:18]
diana_coman: it reports that I "moved" [12:19]
diana_coman: but that's not true [12:19]
chetty: everytime? [12:19]
diana_coman: yeah [12:19]
diana_coman: well, at least the 10 times I kept trying with the bot [12:19]
diana_coman: it's ok manually [12:19]
diana_coman: so it's a bot thing [12:19]
diana_coman: but not sure what and why only on the toolkit [12:19]
chetty: well I know MP tested it with the click bot too, sooo [12:19]
diana_coman: it doesn't have this problem with the craft table [12:20]
diana_coman: well, probably the scheduler approach is still best as more robust [12:20]
chetty: well craftable doesnt decay really so process may have very slight diffs [12:20]
diana_coman: maybe just adjust the timings for maximum speed [12:20]
diana_coman: possibly [12:20]
danielpbarron: down [13:49]
diana_coman: ouch, down indeed [13:56]
diana_coman: chetty or mircea_popescu? ^ [13:56]
chetty: oi, first crash [14:12]
chetty: danielpbarron, can you say what you did just before crash? [14:15]
danielpbarron: had a macro going that made threads [14:15]
chetty: hmm very odd, is your connection good? [14:17]
danielpbarron: it disconnected earlier today for the first time in a long while [14:18]
danielpbarron: my internet had a hicup that dropped me from eulora and irc [14:19]
chetty: it sorta looks like you had a connection burp there and it couldnt find you, not that it needed to, was just for the logs guess I should cut a bit of this over logging. [14:20]
diana_coman: a bit earlier I was dropping out repeatedly although I have no idea why as the connection was good and everything else remained connected [14:23]
diana_coman: it really looked as if I was being kicked out for some reason, as it also always seemed to happen precisely when I was finishing some crafting (imp tools) [14:23]
diana_coman: not sure if that is related in any way, but just in case... [14:23]
lobbes: @RSS announce add dianacoman [14:33]
lobbesbot: lobbes: The operation succeeded. [14:33]
danielpbarron: down [14:43]
chetty: oh wow danielpbarron smame spot [14:43]
chetty: give me a couple minutes gona remove this log entry [14:44]
chetty: ok, hopes this holds now [14:46]
mircea_popescu: o.O [15:46]
mircea_popescu: "Or in my case, re-write a cooking book. So ladies and gentlorans, I give you Foxy\u0092s Euloran Cookbook V1.1," [16:04]
mircea_popescu: lol [16:04]
mircea_popescu: meh god damned crafter did TWO fucking tools whiule i was away [16:40]
mircea_popescu: bloody shit. [16:40]
chetty: eh [16:55]
chetty: well I got no power [16:55]
chetty: but server has (had) been running well while I could see it, one flub seemed to be more an issue with my log than anything else [16:56]
chetty: did that crash knock you off or was it something elsr? I got no clue really about time frame means 'while I was away' [16:57]
mircea_popescu: i think i hjad it badly set up [17:28]
mircea_popescu: tbh [17:28]
lobbesbot: News from dianacoman: A Lotus by Any Other Nameâ\u0080\u0099sâ\u0080¦a Harlot? <http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/08/26/a-lotus-by-any-other-names-a-harlot/> [17:35]
diana_coman: oh, wow, thanks lobbes [17:36]
lobbes: np :D [17:39]
lobbes: if anyone else has a eulora-related blog they want added to the bot, let me know [17:41]
mircea_popescu: coolness [19:04]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu I'm still working on a samovar [19:14]
diana_coman: not sure how long it will still take, but probably around 10 minutes I'd say [19:14]
mircea_popescu: kk [19:23]
diana_coman: it's done [19:25]
diana_coman: ready to trade when you are, mircea_popescu [19:25]
mircea_popescu: alrighty [19:25]
mircea_popescu: yep it was all me. set the wrong clickings [21:17]

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