| diana_coman: | morning | [03:36] |
| chetty: | morning | [03:51] |
| diana_coman: | chetty, would it be possible to have access to connect to some test/sandbox server? | [04:21] |
| diana_coman: | it would help a lot with developing the bot | [04:22] |
| chetty: | need to talk to mp about it, I have setup part way to another test server but needs someinput from him. The one i use now is behind a firewall | [04:27] |
| chetty: | we kinda need to do that before the next client release, imo | [04:28] |
| diana_coman: | ok | [04:34] |
| diana_coman: | if anyone's interested: foxy's diary is back http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/07/31/solid-branches-in-empty-space-euloras-first-woman-made-satellite/ | [05:08] |
| jurov: | i have mined last night, locked every claim, after 12 hours everything gone | [07:54] |
| jurov: | not one claim left standing | [07:54] |
| jurov: | why it is impossible to get right even this? :( | [07:55] |
| chetty: | ooo now thats a bit insane, I will do more tests on that today but nothing has changed in that part of the software in long while | [07:56] |
| chetty: | do you still have the keys? | [07:56] |
| jurov: | yes | [07:57] |
| chetty: | hmm | [07:57] |
| diana_coman: | wow jurov, that's really weird | [08:00] |
| diana_coman: | mod6 found swarming grub at -385 47 -134 | [08:01] |
| diana_coman: | where there is SB on the map | [08:01] |
| jurov: | i found two there | [08:01] |
| jurov: | gone too | [08:01] |
| diana_coman: | I think the trouble is that the spots for the more elusive things are *very* small | [08:01] |
| diana_coman: | hmmm, lemme check my claims from yest | [08:02] |
| jurov: | there were some dry grass claims around, afaik they were left there | [08:02] |
| diana_coman: | those were much older | [08:02] |
| diana_coman: | hmmm, mine seem to be still in place | [08:03] |
| diana_coman: | weird | [08:03] |
| jurov: | damn, i was looking in wrong place | [08:14] |
| jurov: | they are there | [08:14] |
| diana_coman: | oh, phew | [08:14] |
| chetty: | indeed | [08:15] |
| diana_coman: | donw? | [08:26] |
| diana_coman: | down? | [08:26] |
| danielpbarron: | own | [08:27] |
| danielpbarron: | down* | [08:27] |
| danielpbarron: | heh i've been saving up claims too | [08:28] |
| danielpbarron: | glad jurov found his | [08:28] |
| danielpbarron: | also makes me nervous that i haven't locked the most recently explored ones and the server is down | [08:29] |
| jurov: | sorry | [08:29] |
| danielpbarron: | sorry for what? the 20 seconds it took me to get from "jurov's claims got erased" to "nevermind wrong spot" | [08:29] |
| diana_coman: | I think the timer gets reset when the server resets | [08:30] |
| diana_coman: | so no worries about the unlock ones danielpbarron | [08:30] |
| jurov: | i meant, sorry for the accusation to chetty | [08:30] |
| chetty: | up | [09:01] |
| chetty: | yes the timer resets on all those things when the server restarts | [09:17] |
| mod6: | thx diana_coman | [09:43] |
| diana_coman: | np, hope it helps :) | [09:49] |
| diana_coman: | now I get lots of trouble with crafting that just doesn't work for some reason (same type of trouble as jurov had yesterday when making the chetty stick: everything seems fine, except at the end there is still just the bundle there) | [10:05] |
| diana_coman: | "you cannot practice your trade when working" - what is that about? (I wasn't doing anything and it just popped up in there) | [10:07] |
| mod6: | im actually getting that a bunch when mining. i'd say since i logged in this AM, ~70 of the time, i need to move the targeted item around from cell to cell to get the output item to "Starting work on item"... or in the case of a small, moving the bundle from cell to cell to get it to 'kick-start' | [10:12] |
| mod6: | it was fine, pretty much, yesterday. | [10:13] |
| chetty: | diana_coman, I dont find exactly that error message but I have tightened the times on clicking to remove craft results and start a new craft due to people clicking a lot before the craft was actually done | [10:17] |
| diana_coman: | on the bright side, it now seems to know if a craft was interrupted, but unfortunately there is this ugly bug when things *seem* to go fine but don't and it's really just left hanging as the only indication is when the bar finishes and vanishes but nothing has changed (no item no message no nothing) | [10:20] |
| diana_coman: | no idea how/when exactly/why that happens | [10:20] |
| chetty: | yeah that one is on my list as next one to tackle, people just started complaining about it, but I think its been around for a while | [10:22] |
| chetty: | server rest coming up in 5 | [10:23] |
| diana_coman: | it seems to have flared up today | [10:24] |
| diana_coman: | I remember having it long time ago | [10:24] |
| diana_coman: | but then it kind of vanished or maybe it was really very very rare | [10:24] |
| diana_coman: | but now I've been trying to make 1 adze for half an hour, lol | [10:25] |
| diana_coman: | more than 5 attempts and still no luck | [10:25] |
| chetty: | yeah interesting challenge it will be to track down a 'nothing happens' | [10:25] |
| diana_coman: | I'd define it as: starting craft (server notified and ack since the bar appears) and then ...never finished | [10:26] |
| chetty: | ahh ty, I grabbed a log in last few minutes, maybe some clues there | [10:26] |
| diana_coman: | that's good :) | [10:26] |
| danielpbarron: | ready | [10:26] |
| danielpbarron: | diana_coman> now I get lots of trouble with crafting that just doesn't work for some reason << i know the reason | [10:27] |
| diana_coman: | you do? what is it? | [10:27] |
| danielpbarron: | i'd bet 10 to 1 it's some sort of lock on a database entry | [10:27] |
| danielpbarron: | when two players simultaneously finish something that would yield value out of the server, only one goes through | [10:27] |
| chetty: | hmm possible .. | [10:28] |
| diana_coman: | hmmm, sounds like it could be | [10:28] |
| danielpbarron: | this includes crafting, exploring, building | [10:28] |
| diana_coman: | I just have no clue on the server | [10:28] |
| danielpbarron: | when i am playing alone, it "never" happens | [10:28] |
| danielpbarron: | when you guys log in, it starts happening frequently | [10:28] |
| diana_coman: | well, yest we were all playing and it didn't happen or at least not to me, not sure if I was that lucky or what | [10:29] |
| diana_coman: | oh, I see | [10:29] |
| danielpbarron: | if it's not happening to you, you're the lucky one | [10:29] |
| danielpbarron: | sometimes it happens to me 5+ times in a row | [10:29] |
| diana_coman: | well, I did have that today | [10:29] |
| diana_coman: | even several times (5+ in a row then done then again on next item etc) | [10:29] |
| chetty: | back up | [10:29] |
| diana_coman: | thanks | [10:29] |
| diana_coman: | then again yest I had that exploring with no message | [10:30] |
| diana_coman: | which might be exactly the same in fact | [10:30] |
| chetty: | I suppose its possible db interference, but it should be queuing one action | [10:30] |
| diana_coman: | just that there is no way to tell really | [10:30] |
| diana_coman: | awww chetty | [10:31] |
| diana_coman: | not it ate my adze bundle :( | [10:31] |
| chetty: | what message? if any? | [10:31] |
| diana_coman: | no, I meant: it was there before reset and it's not there now | [10:32] |
| diana_coman: | uhm | [10:32] |
| diana_coman: | lemme | [10:32] |
| diana_coman: | lemme check everything | [10:32] |
| chetty: | oh come on ... on a crash yeah but not when I shut it down on purpose ... | [10:32] |
| chetty: | unless you were still crafting knowing I was abuot to shut down? | [10:33] |
| diana_coman: | oh, no, nevermind, sorry, it just put it somewhere in inventory | [10:33] |
| diana_coman: | no, I had logged off | [10:33] |
| diana_coman: | that's why I was so surprised | [10:33] |
| diana_coman: | but I found it, sorry for the false alarm | [10:33] |
| diana_coman: | I just didn't see it in the inventory the first time, geez | [10:33] |
| chetty: | boy its my day to get heat for all sorts of stuff I guess | [10:34] |
| diana_coman: | sorry | [10:34] |
| diana_coman: | but the craft still didn't get through, lol | [10:34] |
| diana_coman: | that bundle is not meant to be made today :))) | [10:34] |
| diana_coman: | interesting that a different bundle went through fine,but then I have no way of knowing if it wasn't just by accident/luck and nothing to do with the object itself | [10:41] |
| chetty: | its not the object | [10:42] |
| diana_coman: | well, I got back to that bundle and ....trouble again :))) | [10:44] |
| diana_coman: | interesting: I moved it around and it started but no bar of course, hence I clicked on use to start it again; the interesting thing is that this time it said that I interrupted the craft, while when I start it again after one of those failed things it doesn't say that, hence there was no "still ongoing" craft on the server or something | [10:46] |
| diana_coman: | and yeah, this bundle is *not* going to become an item today no matter what, it seems | [10:50] |
| diana_coman: | lol | [10:50] |
| danielpbarron: | it's because we're gathering | [10:50] |
| danielpbarron: | it's just especially noticable and annoying when the craft is a long one | [10:50] |
| diana_coman: | it's just funny how any other bundle went through (same type of item) | [10:57] |
| diana_coman: | just that one seems terribly unlucky :))) | [10:57] |
| mod6: | chetty: seems to be behaving better with that now for sure. | [12:40] |
| diana_coman: | oh no, did I crash the server? | [13:15] |
| danielpbarron: | ya | [13:15] |
| danielpbarron: | chetty, ^ | [13:15] |
| diana_coman: | it was still kind of bot-related thing though this time *I* messed up with it so kind of bot+me, lol | [13:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | o.O | [13:16] |
| mod6: | dangit | [13:16] |
| mod6: | i knew i should have mined those smalls | [13:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | now getting crashes 15 layers deep ffs | [13:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | back up | [13:17] |
| mod6: | nice they're still there *whew* | [13:18] |
| mod6: | lol, i guess we'd only be out 7 so, meh. | [13:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | you never know till you find out huh. | [13:20] |
| mod6: | yup | [13:20] |
| chetty: | actually a crash likely gives you more time to mine something, restart server sets the time back | [13:31] |
| mod6: | ah, ok | [13:34] |
| chetty: | was anyone doing a trade when it last crashed? | [14:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | i was crafting | [14:05] |
| chetty: | server reset in 5 | [15:57] |
| chetty: | done | [16:03] |
| mod6: | thanks chetty | [16:05] |
| chetty: | well no real fixes with this, just ways to track more data and see whats up .. | [16:06] |
| mod6: | always nice to have | [16:14] |
| chetty: | all the easy debugs have been done, now its the muddy stuff | [16:16] |
| mod6: | sure. lowest hanging fruit first makes sense. | [16:26] |
| mod6: | what was that one item called back in the day "useless muck"? | [16:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron ding me when you're done with the slag batch | [16:31] |
| danielpbarron: | mod6, disgusting goop? | [17:19] |
| danielpbarron: | which btw is a scarce resource until someone finds a rich crumbly rock deposit | [17:19] |
| mod6: | i've been looking for CRs for about an hour, no such luck. | [17:20] |
| mod6: | i'm on my last 8 tools @ qual 7k each | [17:20] |
| mod6: | wont be long ... | [17:21] |
| danielpbarron: | how did you get that quality | [17:21] |
| mod6: | i made 'em | [17:21] |
| danielpbarron: | who told you to do that!? | [17:21] |
| mod6: | wat? | [17:21] |
| danielpbarron: | mp makes 18k tools | [17:21] |
| danielpbarron: | better to give him the ingredients | [17:21] |
| mod6: | it was like... weeks ago or a month ago or something. | [17:21] |
| danielpbarron: | oh | [17:21] |
| mod6: | and everyone was either afk or not around or who knows. | [17:21] |
| mod6: | but i needed tools so i just made them | [17:22] |
| danielpbarron: | bare-handed isn't as bad as you'd think | [17:22] |
| mod6: | meanwhile i've been using mp's stuff or foxy's if she has any. | [17:22] |
| mod6: | but those are all burned up, so im tapping into my reserve stash | [17:22] |
| mod6: | and no, no disgusting goop. sol dthe last of it to mp or foxy a whlie back | [17:22] |
| mod6: | :] | [17:22] |
| mod6: | and bare-handed gets super old having to walk up to suicide point every 30 minutes. | [17:25] |
| danielpbarron: | oh well then i've got some very useful info for you! | [17:25] |
| danielpbarron: | /die | [17:25] |
| jurov: | /die | [17:26] |
| danielpbarron: | also, learn to xmacro | [17:26] |
| jurov: | haha i got [481] jurov Permission Denied - You're not an IRC operator | [17:26] |
| mod6: | haha, /die, that's nifty | [17:26] |
| jurov: | on /die | [17:26] |
| danielpbarron: | i just made 24 shaped slags while i was out shopping | [17:26] |
| mod6: | < danielpbarron> also, learn to xmacro << used it fine within 24hrs of the annouce. you wanna race? | [17:27] |
| mod6: | lol | [17:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | mod6 ima want them when they're spent anyway | [17:27] |
| mod6: | my tools? | [17:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | aha | [17:28] |
| jurov: | so you all can craft so reliably that you can xmacro? | [17:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | yep | [17:28] |
| jurov: | mind blown | [17:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | you're the only one with that strange issue jurov, and i have no fucking idea why. | [17:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | but i macro'd > 100k clicks' worth to date without issue | [17:29] |
| mod6: | danielpbarron: anyway, as it is, i like mining more than crafting anyway. and additionally, i can't script the mining so.. mind as well just have fun doing that by hand anyway. | [17:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | i kinda enjoy mining too | [17:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron done btw ? | [17:32] |
| mod6: | lol, i can't believe there has been /die this whole time | [17:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [17:34] |
| danielpbarron: | the flats are done, making the sharps nwo | [17:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | a cool | [17:34] |
| danielpbarron: | mod6, i have mining macros | [17:34] |
| danielpbarron: | well.. explore macros | [17:34] |
| jurov: | there's also /mount... but sadly won't work with other players | [17:34] |
| danielpbarron: | haven't figured out building yet | [17:34] |
| danielpbarron: | lol | [17:34] |
| mod6: | lol jurov | [17:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | ahaha | [17:35] |
| mod6: | dang i broke 1000 on bits o' nothing | [17:48] |
| mod6: | that's insane. that means i've mined at least 1000 tinys o.O | [17:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | wd! | [17:49] |
| mod6: | ty | [17:49] |
| danielpbarron: | i had to stop keeping keys | [17:50] |
| danielpbarron: | they don't turn into bits fast enough for me | [17:51] |
| danielpbarron: | plus they don't stack themselves | [17:51] |
| mod6: | yeah, and they don't edn up stacked | [17:51] |
| mod6: | yah | [17:51] |
| danielpbarron: | so now i put keys to tinys into the claim container after i use it | [17:52] |
| mod6: | i need to make a "transfer keys from inventory to container (if open)" button | [17:52] |
| danielpbarron: | and i have nearly a whole inventory full of small claim keys | [17:52] |
| danielpbarron: | just from today | [17:53] |
| mod6: | yeah. i spend a lot of time moving keys around | [17:53] |
| danielpbarron: | well smalls + tiny shrooms | [17:53] |
| diana_coman: | mod6 any beaches where you found blind spots ? | [17:54] |
| diana_coman: | or any that you haven't yet really looked at? | [17:54] |
| mod6: | yeah, i've im in a huge blind spot now | [17:54] |
| mod6: | im trying to find stuff in there. | [17:54] |
| diana_coman: | oh, where is that? | [17:54] |
| diana_coman: | I can come as I'll pop in game in a minute to test something | [17:55] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu atm it seems I can't really leave it on to make toothpaste or whatever as the connection is unreliable | [17:55] |
| diana_coman: | not sure if you still wanted/needed it anyway | [17:55] |
| diana_coman: | let me know | [17:55] |
| mod6: | yeah sorry one sec. | [17:56] |
| danielpbarron: | mircea_popescu, final slag is half done | [17:59] |
| mod6: | ok. yeah, im down by the glowing ball of death | [17:59] |
| mod6: | boom? | [18:08] |
| danielpbarron: | heh | [18:08] |
| mod6: | yup | [18:08] |
| diana_coman: | oh,down? | [18:08] |
| danielpbarron: | chetty, ^ | [18:08] |
| diana_coman: | mod6 I kept getting TPT all over the place there | [18:09] |
| chetty: | sec | [18:09] |
| diana_coman: | then again if those things are really within a 3 coordinates radius or some such... | [18:09] |
| mod6: | yeah | [18:09] |
| mod6: | thats kinda the thing, its hard for me to tell what a dead spot truly is. | [18:10] |
| diana_coman: | any other place on the island? | [18:10] |
| chetty: | up | [18:10] |
| mod6: | is that the size of the spot? 3 units of coord | [18:10] |
| diana_coman: | well, it's always hard I guess | [18:10] |
| diana_coman: | thank you, chetty | [18:10] |
| diana_coman: | I have no idea | [18:10] |
| diana_coman: | I'm just saying that it might be in principle | [18:10] |
| diana_coman: | and then we are truly fucked | [18:11] |
| mod6: | anyway, also yeah, i've also checked that one spot that leads down to the water over by where mp said that he couldn't find the SBs on the grassy top. | [18:11] |
| diana_coman: | neah, I told him | [18:11] |
| mod6: | (which btw, i did find a bunch of SBs on there) | [18:11] |
| diana_coman: | I found there wpl | [18:11] |
| diana_coman: | and sg | [18:11] |
| diana_coman: | and sb | [18:11] |
| chetty: | who was trading when it crashed? | [18:11] |
| diana_coman: | not me | [18:11] |
| mod6: | not me | [18:11] |
| mod6: | i was trying to mine when it stopped repsonding | [18:11] |
| chetty: | no one at merchant? | [18:12] |
| mod6: | but.. anyway, i went down that hill after checking for the SBs on top and found tons of SBs at the bottom of the path to the water that's a bit "beachy" | [18:12] |
| diana_coman: | I think only MP was in the village a few minutes earlier when I left, but not sure | [18:12] |
| diana_coman: | I think mp was mining them there? | [18:12] |
| diana_coman: | there is sb into the water down there too | [18:12] |
| diana_coman: | I checked a bit around that | [18:12] |
| mod6: | yah | [18:13] |
| mod6: | there are a bunch in the water, but i tend not to map those. | [18:13] |
| mod6: | because i get the feeling that water=death when death=true | [18:13] |
| chetty: | lol | [18:13] |
| diana_coman: | it would certainly make sense, yes | [18:13] |
| danielpbarron: | apparently i was at the merchant | [18:13] |
| danielpbarron: | i had traveled to the shrooms spot and even /explored a little when it crashed | [18:14] |
| danielpbarron: | but now i'm back in town | [18:14] |
| diana_coman: | lol, delayed merchant mechanism | [18:14] |
| diana_coman: | yaaay, I got some logging going on | [18:14] |
| diana_coman: | but I basically ripped again from the client based and moved it away | [18:15] |
| diana_coman: | such a mess | [18:15] |
| chetty: | You are not in range to trade with ... was last thing server did as it went down, whole new sort of crash here | [18:15] |
| diana_coman: | hmmm | [18:16] |
| diana_coman: | mod6 and I, we did trade a bit before that | [18:16] |
| diana_coman: | but it seemed to have gone fine | [18:16] |
| mod6: | shhhhh | [18:16] |
| diana_coman: | and we mined a bit afterwards | [18:16] |
| diana_coman: | lol | [18:16] |
| mod6: | don't tell 'em that you sold me that cruddy hoe | [18:16] |
| diana_coman: | :))))) | [18:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron brt | [18:30] |
| mod6: | ;;later tell diana_coman i've got those used tools for you. | [18:53] |
| mod6: | Mr. P. I've got 4 of 'em worn out so far. You wanna wait for the whole stack of 10 at once or 4 now 6 later? | [18:54] |
| mod6: | ok, im off for a bit. no worries, i'll get em to ya later. | [18:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron got anything from those brews btw ? | [19:48] |
| danielpbarron: | oh heh didn't even see your inquiry here | [20:56] |
| danielpbarron: | will know in ~10 mins | [20:56] |
| danielpbarron: | this stuff takes a while | [20:56] |
| danielpbarron: | takes two beetle brews to make a supplication | [20:58] |
| danielpbarron: | does that mean i drink them while manipulating the velum? | [20:58] |
| danielpbarron: | like how the velum takes gin to make | [20:58] |
| danielpbarron: | bouqinists like to get drunk for their craft | [20:59] |
| danielpbarron: | sacrificing chicken scribblings takes a while | [21:19] |
| danielpbarron: | longest timer i think i've seen | [21:19] |
| danielpbarron: | murky and rocks probably took this long too but that happened a while ago | [21:20] |
| danielpbarron: | still going | [21:34] |
| danielpbarron: | almost there! | [21:41] |
| danielpbarron: | welp i'm pretty sure that was a waste | [21:45] |
| danielpbarron: | i need to get more berry supplications | [21:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | nothing ? | [22:13] |
| danielpbarron: | well i got the token | [22:17] |
| danielpbarron: | and more than 2 ranks worth of exp | [22:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | but naught else huh. | [22:18] |
| danielpbarron: | nada | [22:19] |
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