#eulora Logs for 13 Jun 2015



June 13th, 2015 by Diana Coman
cazalla: i can't remember the specific name of the item, some shitty pick axe though [00:00]
cazalla: the items i needed were on the vendor if memory serves [00:00]
danielpbarron: it needs some sort of oil [00:00]
danielpbarron: which needs a "leaky treebark flask" [00:01]
HeySteve: what's the going rate on a bezzle bag? [00:01]
danielpbarron: and that thing's blueprint is blank [00:01]
danielpbarron: lol i'm not about to sell mine [00:01]
HeySteve: not even for... one million dollars? [00:01]
danielpbarron: i would sell it for that [00:01]
cazalla: what are you offering HeySteve ? [00:01]
HeySteve: lol thought so [00:01]
HeySteve: well a bit less than that [00:01]
HeySteve: 1337 satoshis a week right? [00:02]
cazalla: a day [00:02]
HeySteve: ah ha, not bad! [00:02]
cazalla: so that is what.. 0.00488005 per year [00:02]
HeySteve: but they're only satoshis if you find a buyer [00:02]
HeySteve: but perhaps I'm right in thinking you can make a greater profit from intelligent crafting if you know the right recipes and have the ingredients? [00:03]
danielpbarron: like the trilema article says, everything is a net profit right now [00:04]
danielpbarron: the 1337 copper a day is nothing [00:04]
cazalla: not sure, i have accrued much /played yet (does eulora have /played? if not, pls to add kgo) [00:04]
HeySteve: oh you can make more from selling things to the vending machines? [00:04]
danielpbarron: i sold 200+ rotten fruit for many times that and it only took me a few hours to make [00:04]
HeySteve: ok but each rotten fruit you make costs 7 satoshis, right? [00:05]
danielpbarron: nope [00:05]
danielpbarron: i found a normal sized marker [00:05]
HeySteve: ah I see [00:05]
danielpbarron: it needed different ingredients [00:05]
danielpbarron: it was more complicated to do, but in the end it gave me 200 in one pass [00:06]
HeySteve: have an enumeration which costs 1 copper [00:06]
cazalla: found as in found on the ground like chicken scratchings (only thing i've found) or another way? [00:06]
HeySteve: or does the amount of copper depend on crafting skill? [00:06]
danielpbarron: gotta level skills up to get the good exploration markers [00:06]
danielpbarron: found as in /explore [00:06]
cazalla: you need a pick axe or whatever to use that though, right? [00:07]
cazalla: or some tool [00:07]
danielpbarron: what's the deal with spoilers? are we supposed to not give away all the secrets or what? [00:07]
danielpbarron: nope, can be done with bare hands [00:08]
danielpbarron: you need to find an item similar to the chicken thing [00:08]
danielpbarron: and use it [00:08]
danielpbarron: it might be on the map now [00:08]
cazalla: why spoilers? fine to share hints/tips in an mmorpg since forevar [00:08]
danielpbarron: yeah it is [00:09]
danielpbarron: it's on the map [00:09]
cazalla: of course, your prerogative whether to share or not :P [00:09]
danielpbarron: http://www.eulorum.org/Map [00:09]
danielpbarron: smelly murky something [00:09]
danielpbarron: or if you like, i have 23 for sale (23 is the max you can use atm) [00:10]
HeySteve: yep I showed mike_c that harvesting location. forgot where the chicken scratchings are and haven't found the stones yet [00:10]
danielpbarron: they are near fountain [00:12]
danielpbarron: and are very very tiny [00:12]
HeySteve: ah thanks [00:12]
danielpbarron: i noticed a trick, the skill items are visible from further away than the decorative grass [00:13]
danielpbarron: particularly helpful with the chicken thing [00:13]
HeySteve: I found the stone [00:15]
cazalla: any idea what the magic dungbeetle is for? [00:15]
cazalla: also, is there a function like /unstuck as i'm stuck and /die doesn't shift me back to respawn [00:16]
danielpbarron: relog [00:17]
cazalla: yeah, did, didn't work [00:17]
danielpbarron: oh [00:18]
danielpbarron: how full is inventory [00:18]
cazalla: near empty [00:18]
danielpbarron: the number under capacity [00:18]
cazalla: 5.68 [00:18]
danielpbarron: huh [00:18]
danielpbarron: shrugs [00:19]
cazalla: ah there is /unstick but did not work for me either [00:19]
danielpbarron: lol i bought out the 11 satoshi bit of nothings [00:32]
danielpbarron: it's 12 now [00:32]
danielpbarron: i'm hooked on trying to find bigger exploration markers [00:34]
danielpbarron: i got mostly smalls now instead of tiny [00:35]
danielpbarron: and occasionally a normal one that uses totally different ingredients and pays off big time [00:35]
danielpbarron: yay got one! [00:38]
danielpbarron: ordinary grass [00:38]
danielpbarron: ok nevermind, that was a net loss [00:45]
danielpbarron: the 1 slithy tove i had to buy to make it cost way more than the grass ultimately sold for [00:46]
danielpbarron: does that mean i shouldn't sell this stuff back? just stockpile? [00:47]
danielpbarron: or does it mean some items are selling for too much? [00:47]
HeySteve: the last was my impression based on some basic items [00:48]
HeySteve: can one create vending machines which sell one's items? [00:48]
danielpbarron: i'm just gonna stockpile for the time being [00:49]
danielpbarron: seeing as how storage seems to be infinite and free [00:49]
danielpbarron: and selling back is a net loss [00:49]
danielpbarron: on a related note, i'm the reason there aren't keys littering the countryside [00:50]
danielpbarron: still have most of my initial 0.01 [00:52]
danielpbarron: so all of these numbers are mostly trivial from a financial perspective [00:53]
danielpbarron: biggest cost is time [00:53]
HeySteve: initial 0.01? [00:55]
danielpbarron: i want to get at least another 0.01 so i can buy that tripple distilate blueprint [00:55]
danielpbarron: 0.01 bitcoin [00:55]
danielpbarron: or 1000000 satoshi/copper [00:55]
HeySteve: oh right, the elders were awarded that much currency? [00:55]
danielpbarron: i bought from jurov [00:55]
HeySteve: ah ok [00:55]
danielpbarron: you can too [00:55]
HeySteve: I'm considering it :) [00:55]
HeySteve: but I must find a way for it to make economic sense 1st [00:56]
HeySteve: I still have to see if I can find the way to profit in this game [00:56]
danielpbarron: it's too soon for that [00:56]
danielpbarron: i bet all of us can profit by accident just by being involved so early [00:57]
danielpbarron: i'm trying to break things to be honest [00:57]
danielpbarron: small solid branch is "profitable" [01:02]
HeySteve: ah ha thanks, will look into that [01:03]
danielpbarron: cost me 7*11 satoshi for the bits of nothing [01:03]
danielpbarron: and yeilded 3 branches [01:03]
danielpbarron: which sell for 46 a piece [01:03]
HeySteve: I have a couple branches [01:03]
danielpbarron: 61 satoshi profit [01:03]
danielpbarron: not really look intoable; just the luck of the draw with /explore [01:04]
danielpbarron: although i get small most of the time now [01:04]
HeySteve: I see [01:04]
HeySteve: I traded with one of the boxy's before but now can't seem to find the option for it [01:04]
danielpbarron: lemme see if the other items from small are also profitable [01:05]
danielpbarron: the ordinary was not profitable [01:05]
HeySteve: oh nvm there it is [01:05]
danielpbarron: oo, just found an ordinary rotten fruit [01:06]
HeySteve: ah my standard solid branches sell for a lot less, perhaps due to the quality [01:06]
HeySteve: ok found an ordinary claim [01:10]
HeySteve: ok I want to compile a list of these prices and work out what's profitable, if anything [01:17]
danielpbarron: yielded 169 rotten fruit [01:17]
danielpbarron: sells for 64 each [01:18]
danielpbarron: net loss [01:18]
danielpbarron: even a loss if you made your own ingredients [01:20]
danielpbarron: because i have yet to find a way to make my own two leaf clovers [01:20]
danielpbarron: and that alone is enough to make that enumeration not profitable [01:20]
danielpbarron: will save ordinary rotten fruit enumerations for later i guess [01:21]
danielpbarron: or is it worth taking a loss just to level up [01:22]
danielpbarron: i'm not sure where i can see my progress there [01:22]
HeySteve: yeah I haven't figured out how the basics work yet, so can't really work out what's profitable yet [01:24]
danielpbarron: small rotten fruit enumeration yeilded 12 [01:25]
danielpbarron: 768 total if sold [01:25]
danielpbarron: cost 7*11 in nothings [01:26]
danielpbarron: 691 profit [01:26]
danielpbarron: so that's way more profitable than the branch [01:27]
danielpbarron: rotten fruit for the win [01:27]
danielpbarron: specifically the small [01:27]
danielpbarron: not ordinary [01:27]
danielpbarron: found ordinary rickety reeds [01:28]
HeySteve: ah ha nice find [01:29]
danielpbarron: 19 elusive purple snails, 15 better bitterbeans, 18 nondescript tubers, 2 two leaf clovers, crumbly rock [01:29]
danielpbarron: 72*1 .. [01:34]
danielpbarron: incidentally, i just bought up the last of the two leaf clovers [01:34]
danielpbarron: so this isn't even doable anymore [01:34]
danielpbarron: yielded 159 rickety reeds [01:36]
danielpbarron: loss [01:37]
danielpbarron: cost 19880 loss [01:38]
danielpbarron: small nondescript tubers [01:40]
danielpbarron: cost 7*11 [01:40]
danielpbarron: yeild 2*84 [01:40]
danielpbarron: 91 profit [01:40]
danielpbarron: ordianary floatsam, 37348 loss [02:02]
danielpbarron: heh that's like a 6 or 7 cent loss [02:03]
danielpbarron: do not do the ordinary floatsam! [02:03]
danielpbarron: hm, just got another small solid branch that yeilded 100 this time [02:11]
danielpbarron: that's 4523 profit [02:12]
danielpbarron: small boulder, 3 yield, 64 profit [02:15]
danielpbarron: small nondescript tubers, 2 yield, 63 profit [02:17]
danielpbarron: small rotten fruit, 2 yield, 51 profit [02:19]
danielpbarron: small solid branch, 3 yield, 61 profit [02:21]
danielpbarron: small clump of grass, 2 yield, 19 profit [02:23]
danielpbarron: small boulder, 3 yield, 64 profit [02:24]
danielpbarron: small birds nest, 2 yield, 37 profit [02:26]
punkman: I got a bunch of ennumerations I can't use [02:27]
danielpbarron: save em [02:27]
punkman: no patience to find the right key among 200 or how many I have in storage [02:28]
danielpbarron: i think they might get renamed [02:29]
danielpbarron: there should eventually be a market for keys [02:29]
danielpbarron: so people like you who can't use them can sell them to people who can [02:29]
danielpbarron: and so far all my keys also have to come with the instructions [02:30]
danielpbarron: not sure why these are separate yet [02:31]
danielpbarron: after first use the instructions get used up and the thing can't be used anymore [02:32]
danielpbarron: i wonder if i had branches in my inventory in a spot i couldn't see [02:35]
danielpbarron: haven't been able to repeat getting 100 from a small [02:35]
ben_vulpes: oh god i have one terminal that will run eulora and another that wont [03:03]
chetty: morning folks [04:54]
diana_coman: morning chetty [04:55]
diana_coman: for anyone who might still have trouble finding the items, there are some directions at the end of this post: http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/06/13/the-barely-legible-and-slightly-bloody-diary-of-foxy-foxster-on-eulora-day-1/ [05:26]
chetty: aww that link doesnt work for me :/ [06:01]
diana_coman: try ossasepia.com ? [06:02]
diana_coman: I have a slight problem making some goop [06:03]
diana_coman: it ended up as a goop bundle [06:03]
diana_coman: but it won't make it now [06:03]
diana_coman: all of a sudden [06:03]
diana_coman: not sure why [06:03]
diana_coman: I have a recipe in my head [06:03]
diana_coman: not sure what is wrong all of a sudden [06:03]
diana_coman: ha, it seemed to have had some glitch [06:04]
diana_coman: I moved it around on the craft table [06:05]
diana_coman: and then it finished it [06:05]
diana_coman: but this was weird [06:05]
diana_coman: that link works from here, maybe it's again some weird sec issue - can you try from a different computer? [06:06]
diana_coman: chetty, the leaky tree bark flask design is empty :( [06:59]
diana_coman: and that flask is quite crucial, as it's needed for the oil that the merchant does not have (and which is needed for pretty much everything tool-related [07:03]
chetty: ok will get that fixed [07:09]
chetty: nope that link doesntwork either, I get this sometimes, maybe my isp is blacklisted somewhere [07:10]
diana_coman: it seems so [07:10]
chetty: if you move stuff around while crafting it wil fail for sure [07:11]
diana_coman: I will get some people to look at it; I remember there was this issue earlier and it was some strange blacklisting thing [07:11]
diana_coman: no, I have to move it around for it to work [07:11]
diana_coman: so: I was working on it and I might have interrupted it somehow [07:11]
diana_coman: though not entirely sure how [07:11]
diana_coman: I surely did not move anything [07:11]
chetty: thats odd, what were you making? I will give it a shot on my test system [07:12]
diana_coman: some disgusting goop [07:12]
diana_coman: it might be that it took double click on combine [07:12]
diana_coman: because of my poor mouse [07:12]
diana_coman: so double click -> interrupted [07:12]
diana_coman: and then it did not want to resume [07:12]
chetty: ok, I will give it a try in a bit see, yeah a double click might do it [07:12]
diana_coman: except for when I moved that bundle around on the table [07:12]
diana_coman: it's the first time this happens [07:12]
diana_coman: I did get the interrupt before with double click [07:13]
diana_coman: but it would normally just resume with another click [07:13]
diana_coman: not this time [07:13]
chetty: yeah I can see that, if its interrupetd it may get confused about what it is supposed to do, moving would reset everything [07:13]
jurov: danielpbarron: judging from your maffs, you got consistent yields from the small claims? [10:19]
jurov: i am getting only 2 items out most of the time, and once in about 5 it's windfall 10-20 [10:20]
chetty: server going to restart in 5 [10:25]
jurov: again? [10:30]
chetty: restarted [10:30]
jurov: O.o got 25 pieces out of tiny clump of dry grass? [11:15]
jurov: some black swan-ey distribution here :) [11:15]
danielpbarron: http://www.moddb.com/games/eulora [15:18]
chetty: server restart coming in 5 [15:39]
chetty: done [15:45]
jurov: chetty when i'm crafting shiny rck shards, it filles screen with messges "You've got * recipe" [15:48]
jurov: and then makes the shard [15:48]
chetty: check you inventory [15:50]
jurov: oh there are loads of some blueprints [15:50]
jurov: now doing bandar tookit, it generates recipes again [15:53]
jurov: and it died [15:55]
chetty: I killed it, something very wrong [15:56]
jurov: just in time for the event :) [16:01]
chetty: indeed [16:03]
cazalla: prob not much point my logging in as i have no tools to enchant [17:25]
jurov: i was just making some [17:33]
jurov: bandar toolkit, to be precise [17:38]
jurov: to my knowledge no one among mortals was able to craft any other tool anyway [17:39]
jurov: wow the bug must have been serious [17:55]
chetty: well the event is tomorrow and I had a serious fumble finge [18:33]
ben_vulpes: eta on server? [21:27]
mircea_popescu: aha im writing an announcement. [21:37]
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes http://trilema.com/2015/eulora-update/ [21:54]
mircea_popescu: specifically punkman and whoever esle was having problems with the fps etc : http://trilema.com/2015/eulora-update/#selection-49.30-49.84 [21:54]

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