| cazalla: | i can't remember the specific name of the item, some shitty pick axe though | [00:00] |
| cazalla: | the items i needed were on the vendor if memory serves | [00:00] |
| danielpbarron: | it needs some sort of oil | [00:00] |
| danielpbarron: | which needs a "leaky treebark flask" | [00:01] |
| HeySteve: | what's the going rate on a bezzle bag? | [00:01] |
| danielpbarron: | and that thing's blueprint is blank | [00:01] |
| danielpbarron: | lol i'm not about to sell mine | [00:01] |
| HeySteve: | not even for... one million dollars? | [00:01] |
| danielpbarron: | i would sell it for that | [00:01] |
| cazalla: | what are you offering HeySteve ? | [00:01] |
| HeySteve: | lol thought so | [00:01] |
| HeySteve: | well a bit less than that | [00:01] |
| HeySteve: | 1337 satoshis a week right? | [00:02] |
| cazalla: | a day | [00:02] |
| HeySteve: | ah ha, not bad! | [00:02] |
| cazalla: | so that is what.. 0.00488005 per year | [00:02] |
| HeySteve: | but they're only satoshis if you find a buyer | [00:02] |
| HeySteve: | but perhaps I'm right in thinking you can make a greater profit from intelligent crafting if you know the right recipes and have the ingredients? | [00:03] |
| danielpbarron: | like the trilema article says, everything is a net profit right now | [00:04] |
| danielpbarron: | the 1337 copper a day is nothing | [00:04] |
| cazalla: | not sure, i have accrued much /played yet (does eulora have /played? if not, pls to add kgo) | [00:04] |
| HeySteve: | oh you can make more from selling things to the vending machines? | [00:04] |
| danielpbarron: | i sold 200+ rotten fruit for many times that and it only took me a few hours to make | [00:04] |
| HeySteve: | ok but each rotten fruit you make costs 7 satoshis, right? | [00:05] |
| danielpbarron: | nope | [00:05] |
| danielpbarron: | i found a normal sized marker | [00:05] |
| HeySteve: | ah I see | [00:05] |
| danielpbarron: | it needed different ingredients | [00:05] |
| danielpbarron: | it was more complicated to do, but in the end it gave me 200 in one pass | [00:06] |
| HeySteve: | have an enumeration which costs 1 copper | [00:06] |
| cazalla: | found as in found on the ground like chicken scratchings (only thing i've found) or another way? | [00:06] |
| HeySteve: | or does the amount of copper depend on crafting skill? | [00:06] |
| danielpbarron: | gotta level skills up to get the good exploration markers | [00:06] |
| danielpbarron: | found as in /explore | [00:06] |
| cazalla: | you need a pick axe or whatever to use that though, right? | [00:07] |
| cazalla: | or some tool | [00:07] |
| danielpbarron: | what's the deal with spoilers? are we supposed to not give away all the secrets or what? | [00:07] |
| danielpbarron: | nope, can be done with bare hands | [00:08] |
| danielpbarron: | you need to find an item similar to the chicken thing | [00:08] |
| danielpbarron: | and use it | [00:08] |
| danielpbarron: | it might be on the map now | [00:08] |
| cazalla: | why spoilers? fine to share hints/tips in an mmorpg since forevar | [00:08] |
| danielpbarron: | yeah it is | [00:09] |
| danielpbarron: | it's on the map | [00:09] |
| cazalla: | of course, your prerogative whether to share or not :P | [00:09] |
| danielpbarron: | http://www.eulorum.org/Map | [00:09] |
| danielpbarron: | smelly murky something | [00:09] |
| danielpbarron: | or if you like, i have 23 for sale (23 is the max you can use atm) | [00:10] |
| HeySteve: | yep I showed mike_c that harvesting location. forgot where the chicken scratchings are and haven't found the stones yet | [00:10] |
| danielpbarron: | they are near fountain | [00:12] |
| danielpbarron: | and are very very tiny | [00:12] |
| HeySteve: | ah thanks | [00:12] |
| danielpbarron: | i noticed a trick, the skill items are visible from further away than the decorative grass | [00:13] |
| danielpbarron: | particularly helpful with the chicken thing | [00:13] |
| HeySteve: | I found the stone | [00:15] |
| cazalla: | any idea what the magic dungbeetle is for? | [00:15] |
| cazalla: | also, is there a function like /unstuck as i'm stuck and /die doesn't shift me back to respawn | [00:16] |
| danielpbarron: | relog | [00:17] |
| cazalla: | yeah, did, didn't work | [00:17] |
| danielpbarron: | oh | [00:18] |
| danielpbarron: | how full is inventory | [00:18] |
| cazalla: | near empty | [00:18] |
| danielpbarron: | the number under capacity | [00:18] |
| cazalla: | 5.68 | [00:18] |
| danielpbarron: | huh | [00:18] |
| danielpbarron: | shrugs | [00:19] |
| cazalla: | ah there is /unstick but did not work for me either | [00:19] |
| danielpbarron: | lol i bought out the 11 satoshi bit of nothings | [00:32] |
| danielpbarron: | it's 12 now | [00:32] |
| danielpbarron: | i'm hooked on trying to find bigger exploration markers | [00:34] |
| danielpbarron: | i got mostly smalls now instead of tiny | [00:35] |
| danielpbarron: | and occasionally a normal one that uses totally different ingredients and pays off big time | [00:35] |
| danielpbarron: | yay got one! | [00:38] |
| danielpbarron: | ordinary grass | [00:38] |
| danielpbarron: | ok nevermind, that was a net loss | [00:45] |
| danielpbarron: | the 1 slithy tove i had to buy to make it cost way more than the grass ultimately sold for | [00:46] |
| danielpbarron: | does that mean i shouldn't sell this stuff back? just stockpile? | [00:47] |
| danielpbarron: | or does it mean some items are selling for too much? | [00:47] |
| HeySteve: | the last was my impression based on some basic items | [00:48] |
| HeySteve: | can one create vending machines which sell one's items? | [00:48] |
| danielpbarron: | i'm just gonna stockpile for the time being | [00:49] |
| danielpbarron: | seeing as how storage seems to be infinite and free | [00:49] |
| danielpbarron: | and selling back is a net loss | [00:49] |
| danielpbarron: | on a related note, i'm the reason there aren't keys littering the countryside | [00:50] |
| danielpbarron: | still have most of my initial 0.01 | [00:52] |
| danielpbarron: | so all of these numbers are mostly trivial from a financial perspective | [00:53] |
| danielpbarron: | biggest cost is time | [00:53] |
| HeySteve: | initial 0.01? | [00:55] |
| danielpbarron: | i want to get at least another 0.01 so i can buy that tripple distilate blueprint | [00:55] |
| danielpbarron: | 0.01 bitcoin | [00:55] |
| danielpbarron: | or 1000000 satoshi/copper | [00:55] |
| HeySteve: | oh right, the elders were awarded that much currency? | [00:55] |
| danielpbarron: | i bought from jurov | [00:55] |
| HeySteve: | ah ok | [00:55] |
| danielpbarron: | you can too | [00:55] |
| HeySteve: | I'm considering it :) | [00:55] |
| HeySteve: | but I must find a way for it to make economic sense 1st | [00:56] |
| HeySteve: | I still have to see if I can find the way to profit in this game | [00:56] |
| danielpbarron: | it's too soon for that | [00:56] |
| danielpbarron: | i bet all of us can profit by accident just by being involved so early | [00:57] |
| danielpbarron: | i'm trying to break things to be honest | [00:57] |
| danielpbarron: | small solid branch is "profitable" | [01:02] |
| HeySteve: | ah ha thanks, will look into that | [01:03] |
| danielpbarron: | cost me 7*11 satoshi for the bits of nothing | [01:03] |
| danielpbarron: | and yeilded 3 branches | [01:03] |
| danielpbarron: | which sell for 46 a piece | [01:03] |
| HeySteve: | I have a couple branches | [01:03] |
| danielpbarron: | 61 satoshi profit | [01:03] |
| danielpbarron: | not really look intoable; just the luck of the draw with /explore | [01:04] |
| danielpbarron: | although i get small most of the time now | [01:04] |
| HeySteve: | I see | [01:04] |
| HeySteve: | I traded with one of the boxy's before but now can't seem to find the option for it | [01:04] |
| danielpbarron: | lemme see if the other items from small are also profitable | [01:05] |
| danielpbarron: | the ordinary was not profitable | [01:05] |
| HeySteve: | oh nvm there it is | [01:05] |
| danielpbarron: | oo, just found an ordinary rotten fruit | [01:06] |
| HeySteve: | ah my standard solid branches sell for a lot less, perhaps due to the quality | [01:06] |
| HeySteve: | ok found an ordinary claim | [01:10] |
| HeySteve: | ok I want to compile a list of these prices and work out what's profitable, if anything | [01:17] |
| danielpbarron: | yielded 169 rotten fruit | [01:17] |
| danielpbarron: | sells for 64 each | [01:18] |
| danielpbarron: | net loss | [01:18] |
| danielpbarron: | even a loss if you made your own ingredients | [01:20] |
| danielpbarron: | because i have yet to find a way to make my own two leaf clovers | [01:20] |
| danielpbarron: | and that alone is enough to make that enumeration not profitable | [01:20] |
| danielpbarron: | will save ordinary rotten fruit enumerations for later i guess | [01:21] |
| danielpbarron: | or is it worth taking a loss just to level up | [01:22] |
| danielpbarron: | i'm not sure where i can see my progress there | [01:22] |
| HeySteve: | yeah I haven't figured out how the basics work yet, so can't really work out what's profitable yet | [01:24] |
| danielpbarron: | small rotten fruit enumeration yeilded 12 | [01:25] |
| danielpbarron: | 768 total if sold | [01:25] |
| danielpbarron: | cost 7*11 in nothings | [01:26] |
| danielpbarron: | 691 profit | [01:26] |
| danielpbarron: | so that's way more profitable than the branch | [01:27] |
| danielpbarron: | rotten fruit for the win | [01:27] |
| danielpbarron: | specifically the small | [01:27] |
| danielpbarron: | not ordinary | [01:27] |
| danielpbarron: | found ordinary rickety reeds | [01:28] |
| HeySteve: | ah ha nice find | [01:29] |
| danielpbarron: | 19 elusive purple snails, 15 better bitterbeans, 18 nondescript tubers, 2 two leaf clovers, crumbly rock | [01:29] |
| danielpbarron: | 72*1 .. | [01:34] |
| danielpbarron: | incidentally, i just bought up the last of the two leaf clovers | [01:34] |
| danielpbarron: | so this isn't even doable anymore | [01:34] |
| danielpbarron: | yielded 159 rickety reeds | [01:36] |
| danielpbarron: | loss | [01:37] |
| danielpbarron: | cost 19880 loss | [01:38] |
| danielpbarron: | small nondescript tubers | [01:40] |
| danielpbarron: | cost 7*11 | [01:40] |
| danielpbarron: | yeild 2*84 | [01:40] |
| danielpbarron: | 91 profit | [01:40] |
| danielpbarron: | ordianary floatsam, 37348 loss | [02:02] |
| danielpbarron: | heh that's like a 6 or 7 cent loss | [02:03] |
| danielpbarron: | do not do the ordinary floatsam! | [02:03] |
| danielpbarron: | hm, just got another small solid branch that yeilded 100 this time | [02:11] |
| danielpbarron: | that's 4523 profit | [02:12] |
| danielpbarron: | small boulder, 3 yield, 64 profit | [02:15] |
| danielpbarron: | small nondescript tubers, 2 yield, 63 profit | [02:17] |
| danielpbarron: | small rotten fruit, 2 yield, 51 profit | [02:19] |
| danielpbarron: | small solid branch, 3 yield, 61 profit | [02:21] |
| danielpbarron: | small clump of grass, 2 yield, 19 profit | [02:23] |
| danielpbarron: | small boulder, 3 yield, 64 profit | [02:24] |
| danielpbarron: | small birds nest, 2 yield, 37 profit | [02:26] |
| punkman: | I got a bunch of ennumerations I can't use | [02:27] |
| danielpbarron: | save em | [02:27] |
| punkman: | no patience to find the right key among 200 or how many I have in storage | [02:28] |
| danielpbarron: | i think they might get renamed | [02:29] |
| danielpbarron: | there should eventually be a market for keys | [02:29] |
| danielpbarron: | so people like you who can't use them can sell them to people who can | [02:29] |
| danielpbarron: | and so far all my keys also have to come with the instructions | [02:30] |
| danielpbarron: | not sure why these are separate yet | [02:31] |
| danielpbarron: | after first use the instructions get used up and the thing can't be used anymore | [02:32] |
| danielpbarron: | i wonder if i had branches in my inventory in a spot i couldn't see | [02:35] |
| danielpbarron: | haven't been able to repeat getting 100 from a small | [02:35] |
| ben_vulpes: | oh god i have one terminal that will run eulora and another that wont | [03:03] |
| chetty: | morning folks | [04:54] |
| diana_coman: | morning chetty | [04:55] |
| diana_coman: | for anyone who might still have trouble finding the items, there are some directions at the end of this post: http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/06/13/the-barely-legible-and-slightly-bloody-diary-of-foxy-foxster-on-eulora-day-1/ | [05:26] |
| chetty: | aww that link doesnt work for me :/ | [06:01] |
| diana_coman: | try ossasepia.com ? | [06:02] |
| diana_coman: | I have a slight problem making some goop | [06:03] |
| diana_coman: | it ended up as a goop bundle | [06:03] |
| diana_coman: | but it won't make it now | [06:03] |
| diana_coman: | all of a sudden | [06:03] |
| diana_coman: | not sure why | [06:03] |
| diana_coman: | I have a recipe in my head | [06:03] |
| diana_coman: | not sure what is wrong all of a sudden | [06:03] |
| diana_coman: | ha, it seemed to have had some glitch | [06:04] |
| diana_coman: | I moved it around on the craft table | [06:05] |
| diana_coman: | and then it finished it | [06:05] |
| diana_coman: | but this was weird | [06:05] |
| diana_coman: | that link works from here, maybe it's again some weird sec issue - can you try from a different computer? | [06:06] |
| diana_coman: | chetty, the leaky tree bark flask design is empty :( | [06:59] |
| diana_coman: | and that flask is quite crucial, as it's needed for the oil that the merchant does not have (and which is needed for pretty much everything tool-related | [07:03] |
| chetty: | ok will get that fixed | [07:09] |
| chetty: | nope that link doesntwork either, I get this sometimes, maybe my isp is blacklisted somewhere | [07:10] |
| diana_coman: | it seems so | [07:10] |
| chetty: | if you move stuff around while crafting it wil fail for sure | [07:11] |
| diana_coman: | I will get some people to look at it; I remember there was this issue earlier and it was some strange blacklisting thing | [07:11] |
| diana_coman: | no, I have to move it around for it to work | [07:11] |
| diana_coman: | so: I was working on it and I might have interrupted it somehow | [07:11] |
| diana_coman: | though not entirely sure how | [07:11] |
| diana_coman: | I surely did not move anything | [07:11] |
| chetty: | thats odd, what were you making? I will give it a shot on my test system | [07:12] |
| diana_coman: | some disgusting goop | [07:12] |
| diana_coman: | it might be that it took double click on combine | [07:12] |
| diana_coman: | because of my poor mouse | [07:12] |
| diana_coman: | so double click -> interrupted | [07:12] |
| diana_coman: | and then it did not want to resume | [07:12] |
| chetty: | ok, I will give it a try in a bit see, yeah a double click might do it | [07:12] |
| diana_coman: | except for when I moved that bundle around on the table | [07:12] |
| diana_coman: | it's the first time this happens | [07:12] |
| diana_coman: | I did get the interrupt before with double click | [07:13] |
| diana_coman: | but it would normally just resume with another click | [07:13] |
| diana_coman: | not this time | [07:13] |
| chetty: | yeah I can see that, if its interrupetd it may get confused about what it is supposed to do, moving would reset everything | [07:13] |
| jurov: | danielpbarron: judging from your maffs, you got consistent yields from the small claims? | [10:19] |
| jurov: | i am getting only 2 items out most of the time, and once in about 5 it's windfall 10-20 | [10:20] |
| chetty: | server going to restart in 5 | [10:25] |
| jurov: | again? | [10:30] |
| chetty: | restarted | [10:30] |
| jurov: | O.o got 25 pieces out of tiny clump of dry grass? | [11:15] |
| jurov: | some black swan-ey distribution here :) | [11:15] |
| danielpbarron: | http://www.moddb.com/games/eulora | [15:18] |
| chetty: | server restart coming in 5 | [15:39] |
| chetty: | done | [15:45] |
| jurov: | chetty when i'm crafting shiny rck shards, it filles screen with messges "You've got * recipe" | [15:48] |
| jurov: | and then makes the shard | [15:48] |
| chetty: | check you inventory | [15:50] |
| jurov: | oh there are loads of some blueprints | [15:50] |
| jurov: | now doing bandar tookit, it generates recipes again | [15:53] |
| jurov: | and it died | [15:55] |
| chetty: | I killed it, something very wrong | [15:56] |
| jurov: | just in time for the event :) | [16:01] |
| chetty: | indeed | [16:03] |
| cazalla: | prob not much point my logging in as i have no tools to enchant | [17:25] |
| jurov: | i was just making some | [17:33] |
| jurov: | bandar toolkit, to be precise | [17:38] |
| jurov: | to my knowledge no one among mortals was able to craft any other tool anyway | [17:39] |
| jurov: | wow the bug must have been serious | [17:55] |
| chetty: | well the event is tomorrow and I had a serious fumble finge | [18:33] |
| ben_vulpes: | eta on server? | [21:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | aha im writing an announcement. | [21:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | ben_vulpes http://trilema.com/2015/eulora-update/ | [21:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | specifically punkman and whoever esle was having problems with the fps etc : http://trilema.com/2015/eulora-update/#selection-49.30-49.84 | [21:54] |
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