| moopet: | Aloha | [11:46] |
| diana_coman: | hello moopet | [11:46] |
| diana_coman: | what brings you here? | [11:46] |
| moopet: | read a comment on dev.to about TMSR and V and hasn't a clue what they are | [11:47] |
| moopet: | and since I failed to find anything on the internets I thought I'd come straight to you | [11:47] |
| diana_coman: | heh, good call really | [11:47] |
| diana_coman: | V is a versioning system like hm, no other really ; you can see it in action here for instance : | [11:47] |
| diana_coman: | http://btcbase.org/patches | [11:48] |
| diana_coman: | e.g http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=eucrypt&search= is the V tree for my project EuCrypt | [11:48] |
| moopet: | so are signers people who have approved a commit? | [11:50] |
| moopet: | and what is TMSR? | [11:50] |
| diana_coman: | moopet: not "approved" heh; signers are people who are willing to stake their reputation on the contents of that code essentially | [11:50] |
| diana_coman: | there is no "approval" - only responsibility | [11:51] |
| diana_coman: | the point is that code is valuable for you only to the extent that you trust it | [11:51] |
| diana_coman: | and the direct trust comes from "I read and understood it and I'm fine to use it" | [11:51] |
| moopet: | how is someone responsible for something if they haven't given their approval? | [11:52] |
| diana_coman: | the less direct trust may come also from "X whom I know to be honest and capable has signed this patch " | [11:52] |
| moopet: | I'm not sure I'd understand unless I actually gave it a go, I guess | [11:52] |
| diana_coman: | moopet: re approval I guess it hinges on your notion of "approval" | [11:52] |
| diana_coman: | the point is: anyone can add a vpatch to an existing v-tree | [11:53] |
| diana_coman: | in this sense there is no need for "approval" from anybody else | [11:53] |
| diana_coman: | however, just adding a vpatch won't do much for those who don't know you and therefore can't trust you/your code | [11:53] |
| asciilifeform: | moopet, diana_coman : http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system is imho to this day the best guide to 'v' | [11:54] |
| diana_coman: | thanks asciilifeform , I was digging for that! | [11:54] |
| asciilifeform: | np | [11:54] |
| diana_coman: | moopet: the link provided by asciilifeform is the canonical introduction to using V as it were | [11:54] |
| moopet: | will give it a read later | [11:55] |
| moopet: | thanks | [11:55] |
| diana_coman: | at any rate, if you want to learn and practice, you can do way worse than implementing your own V | [11:55] |
| asciilifeform: | moopet: it's quite possibly world's simplest versionatron. to the point that virtually all of the current users, wrote own implementation (or use old one tailored to own taste) | [11:56] |
| diana_coman: | TMSR is The Most Serene Republic; you can read the log of its public forum for instance at http://btcbase.org/log/ | [11:56] |
| diana_coman: | moopet: re TMSR you can have a look on trilema.com as well e.g. http://trilema.com/2015/the-definitive-sovereign/ | [11:59] |
| moopet: | this is quite hard going | [12:06] |
| moopet: | I have to look up every other word | [12:06] |
| diana_coman: | moopet: is that bad or good in your books? | [12:06] |
| moopet: | it's very... subgenious | [12:06] |
| diana_coman: | (and...which of the above links, lol) | [12:07] |
| moopet: | all of them | [12:07] |
| moopet: | I decided to read them all at once because big brain | [12:07] |
| diana_coman: | moopet: what's "subgenious"? | [12:07] |
| diana_coman: | heh, take it easy, it's not a sprint; more of a very deep rabbit hole | [12:07] |
| moopet: | 'it's me mis-spelling subgenius | [12:08] |
| diana_coman: | but feel free to come up for air and ask in here at any time | [12:08] |
| moopet: | will pobably be back! | [12:08] |
| moopet: | but it's nearly time to go home, so bye. Thanks for talking! | [12:08] |
| diana_coman: | hang around as you like | [12:08] |
| diana_coman: | np, see you later | [12:08] |
| diana_coman: | moopet aka Ben Sinclair, it would seem | [12:24] |
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