| diana_coman: | danielpbarron, trade? | [08:34] |
| Mocky: | the more I tweak this bot to run for longer stretches, the more I end up seeing strange occasional cases. I was looking through last nights log and saw an instance where bot didn't build a claim because it couldn't find the marker. I traced the log and there actually wasn't a marker sent that matched the coords on the key. but then 24 minutes later it finally shows, presumably as bot traces path back past same spot | [11:31] |
| Mocky: | oh look, just dug up my first putrid leather | [11:33] |
| diana_coman: | well done on the leather! | [11:34] |
| diana_coman: | Mocky, that special case can happen, yes, esp if too many claims right there | [11:34] |
| diana_coman: | server sends closest x items around to avoid flooding if there are 10000 claims right next to you | [11:35] |
| diana_coman: | at any rate, if bot handles long stretches otherwise, it's fine to just ignore those strange occasional blips | [11:36] |
| diana_coman: | as long as it doesn't choke on them... | [11:37] |
| Mocky: | yeah, i've got it so in that case if small or better claim, holds on to key, but obvs can't lock it | [11:38] |
| diana_coman: | as long as it's close enough it won't vanish anyway | [11:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | Mocky this sounds like client failure. | [12:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | client will a) discard server messages, for no reason ; b) not get new ones unless the server thinks it needs them, which may be when it goes far enough and returns | [12:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | ie, "relog would have fixed it" | [12:00] |
| danielpbarron: | is around | [12:05] |
| Mocky: | yeah I've seen client drop messages like that | [12:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron trade ? | [12:06] |
| danielpbarron: | ya | [12:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | btw lobbes this http://logs.minigame.biz/search/?q=attn\%3A is the tits. | [12:07] |
| danielpbarron: | ty | [12:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron ty! | [12:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | Mocky one solution would be to force a world-reload when running into any such case. | [12:09] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron, omw to town | [12:15] |
| danielpbarron: | k | [12:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | how's oklahoma btw ? | [12:16] |
| danielpbarron: | it's hot a humid | [12:17] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron, trade | [12:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | that dun sound so great. | [12:18] |
| danielpbarron: | ty | [12:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | thought ok is arid. | [12:18] |
| diana_coman: | thanks! | [12:18] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron, how about those high q gumbo drudgery bps? are you making and selling the grimes or selling the bps or? | [12:19] |
| diana_coman: | oh hey, those tinctures actually look very nice | [12:19] |
| danielpbarron: | is there demand for them coming from more than one player? | [12:20] |
| diana_coman: | well, I can't make myself more than one player | [12:20] |
| danielpbarron: | if i can get more wine i'll click more drudgeries | [12:20] |
| diana_coman: | what do you want for them? or what's the thing with more than one player? | [12:21] |
| danielpbarron: | it'd be nice if some bidding went on | [12:21] |
| diana_coman: | myeah, what can I say | [12:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron do you have cr ? | [12:22] |
| diana_coman: | same for harvestables and for everything else really | [12:22] |
| diana_coman: | but getting stuck because only one player wants to buy doesn't sound sane to me | [12:22] |
| danielpbarron: | mircea_popescu, a few thousand | [12:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | it's what i'm stuck on for making wine atm | [12:23] |
| diana_coman: | is curious what q is that | [12:23] |
| danielpbarron: | pre float | [12:23] |
| danielpbarron: | 2020 | [12:24] |
| diana_coman: | nice | [12:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | pretty cool. | [12:25] |
| diana_coman: | anyway, taking stock here: I have 5 out of 170 (if not more even) needed grimes for the gumbo cons; I have 10 tinctures meaning 2 clicks max to get grimes; wtf | [12:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | maybe you pop | [12:32] |
| diana_coman: | on 2 clicks? | [12:32] |
| diana_coman: | lmao | [12:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | and it's more, it was 232. | [12:33] |
| diana_coman: | ah, you can pack 232, right; foxy can pack only 170 hence the number there | [12:33] |
| Mocky: | tonights overnight bot might reveal some reliability issues, but aside from that I've addressed all the ones I've seen thus far, table ghosts, table glitches, claim glitches.. all seem to be well handled. Finishing this stacking code is all that's left. and by 'finish' I mean 'let you guys find the bugs' | [12:35] |
| diana_coman: | Mocky, can has it to try it? | [12:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol. cool, almost done with the ibs. | [12:36] |
| Mocky: | diana_coman, you want it now without the stacking? | [12:37] |
| diana_coman: | ah, no, need stacking or it will jam in 1 minute | [12:37] |
| Mocky: | yeah i'll post as soon as stacking 'done' | [12:38] |
| diana_coman: | will wait for it | [12:38] |
| Mocky: | diana_coman, if you packed some bundles for tiny boulders for me do you think I would get higher quality than 1, with my gather and build skill ~50? | [12:42] |
| diana_coman: | yes | [12:42] |
| diana_coman: | what q enums do you get Mocky ? | [12:43] |
| Mocky: | 39 | [12:43] |
| diana_coman: | should work, I'd say; haven't tried it with lbn q 11 but perhaps even that will do | [12:44] |
| diana_coman: | anyways, come trade foxy and we make a quick test, not a problem | [12:45] |
| Mocky: | dun need to be boulders specifically, i just focus on them because they are the only thing that puts me over weight on every dig | [12:45] |
| Mocky: | i've been using mircea_popescu's 100q lbn | [12:45] |
| Mocky: | got plenty | [12:45] |
| diana_coman: | then it really should work, I'd be surprised if you still get q1 | [12:46] |
| diana_coman: | but hm, why only tiny? | [12:46] |
| diana_coman: | oh, you are not using tools, are you | [12:46] |
| Mocky: | yeah, have no tools | [12:46] |
| diana_coman: | anyway, 26lbn per bundle, let's see | [12:46] |
| Mocky: | ok, on the way | [12:46] |
| Mocky: | thx | [12:50] |
| diana_coman: | np | [12:50] |
| diana_coman: | let me know what you get | [12:52] |
| Mocky: | 550x q1 | [12:54] |
| diana_coman: | ugh | [12:54] |
| diana_coman: | then it would seem you need tools/smalls | [12:54] |
| Mocky: | anyone sell those? i'm not really up on who has what | [12:55] |
| diana_coman: | I can sell some,sure; lemme see what I even paid for them, lol | [12:56] |
| diana_coman: | right, 1.56 | [12:57] |
| diana_coman: | !QCalc 1.56*55760 | [12:58] |
| lobbesbot: | diana_coman: 86985.6 | [12:58] |
| diana_coman: | Mocky, ^ | [12:58] |
| diana_coman: | cruddy hoe ftr | [12:58] |
| Mocky: | can i get 20 of them? | [12:59] |
| diana_coman: | yes | [13:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | check out rich boy mocky! :D | [13:00] |
| Mocky: | that's half my fortune right there! but well worth it | [13:00] |
| diana_coman: | Mocky, trade fox | [13:01] |
| Mocky: | ok otw | [13:01] |
| diana_coman: | !QCalc 20*1.56*55760 | [13:01] |
| lobbesbot: | diana_coman: 1739712.0 | [13:01] |
| diana_coman: | good luck! | [13:03] |
| Mocky: | thx! | [13:04] |
| Mocky: | diana_coman, would you pack a small boulder enumeration for me? | [13:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | Mocky want one of those she packed for me earlier ? | [13:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | HUGE q. | [13:20] |
| Mocky: | yeah | [13:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | ok trade me in 1 min | [13:21] |
| Mocky: | thx! | [13:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | eenjoy your first q >100k itamz! | [13:23] |
| Mocky: | oh those are tiny bundles | [13:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | damn, sec | [13:30] |
| Mocky: | 19,000x q1 | [13:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | Mocky a yes, tiny. i thought you were discussing lbn etc ? | [13:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | smalls are cft and cft is mostly electron bought, so can't help you there. | [13:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | also, sounds like you should prolly level up a little, if all q1. | [13:31] |
| Mocky: | yeah, i'm thinking so | [13:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman imagine that, q 101k bundle couldn't dig him out of noob hole. | [13:34] |
| diana_coman: | Mocky, let me pack 1 bundle, sure | [13:43] |
| diana_coman: | ftr my noobs do get q>1 on smalls but never tried them on tinies really | [13:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | most of my q > 500 were from tinies iirc | [13:44] |
| diana_coman: | after the update mircea_popescu ? | [13:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | well yes the few dozen hits i did on his bot | [13:44] |
| diana_coman: | I do get q even > 1000 at times but usually from smalls really | [13:44] |
| diana_coman: | hmm | [13:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm | [13:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | will need more data | [13:45] |
| Mocky: | ok, one sec | [13:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | i also never saw 4 digits. iirc like 650 highest. | [13:45] |
| diana_coman: | Mocky, come trade fox for 1 small boulder bundle | [13:45] |
| Mocky: | otw | [13:46] |
| diana_coman: | I'll gift this one in the interest of bot development! | [13:46] |
| Mocky: | thx | [13:48] |
| diana_coman: | is curious now what q Mocky gets | [13:48] |
| Mocky: | 8800x q1 | [13:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | this guy wouldn't know a q2 item if it hit him in the uvula. | [13:55] |
| Mocky: | pretty sure q other than 1 dun exist, actually | [13:56] |
| Mocky: | or maybe it's just me :D | [13:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [13:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | thank your lucky stars for the number 1, | [13:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | by the looks of you it's more like 0.something in your case! | [13:56] |
| Mocky: | srsly | [13:57] |
| diana_coman: | o.O | [13:58] |
| diana_coman: | it would seem my noobs are not all that noobs , huh | [13:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | maybe mocky is just blessed with suck, should work in brothel. | [13:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | he has a quality suction. | [13:58] |
| Mocky: | it can be a team effort, now that kyla has some fancy hos she can lvl up while I'm coding | [13:58] |
| diana_coman: | hm, I did get them sortage too though; Mocky do you know sortage? | [13:58] |
| Mocky: | i do not | [13:59] |
| Mocky: | out of my price range | [13:59] |
| diana_coman: | if you focus on basics it might be worth it, dunno | [13:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | the amusing part of all this being, | [13:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | that the designed and lead dev are surprised by the results of player. | [13:59] |
| diana_coman: | ahahah, quite | [13:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | "is that right ?" "uhh... i have no fucking idea..." "but isnt this a computer game ?" "not in the usual sense." | [14:00] |
| Mocky: | yeah really, how come you guys dont' know jack shit | [14:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | cuz we spend most of our time arguing. | [14:01] |
| Mocky: | lol | [14:01] |
| Mocky: | haggling and mathing more like it | [14:01] |
| Mocky: | and meta meta-ing | [14:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | fruit flies fly like flies fly and intelligent people argue like they do. | [14:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | in other news, i guess im gifting him a sortage book. | [14:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | want a sortage book mox ? | [14:05] |
| Mocky: | hell yeah | [14:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | trade moi | [14:06] |
| Mocky: | otw | [14:06] |
| Mocky: | thx! | [14:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | gl! | [14:07] |
| diana_coman: | in all fairness though, I must say that I'm wearing 2 hats here but never quite both at the same time, lol | [14:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | same is true of reality -- you could, if sufficiently determined, map out genomes and predict cancers. | [14:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman btw esthlos wants your halps in #t | [14:12] |
| diana_coman: | looks | [14:12] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, you wanted to trade with me? | [14:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | did i ? what were we trading ? | [14:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh oh. no, trouble is i can't tell girls apart in this game, they all look the same to me. | [14:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | was trying to trade mocky. | [14:20] |
| diana_coman: | same for me but with boys | [14:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | i suspect this game may be sexist. | [14:26] |
| Mocky: | ok so now i must allow q > 1 does in fact exist | [14:28] |
| Mocky: | built a tiny cr claim got 1x q16 rock | [14:28] |
| diana_coman: | oh hey! | [14:30] |
| diana_coman: | sortage ftw | [14:30] |
| Mocky: | evidently | [14:30] |
| Mocky: | ooh, i got a mini pop, 2 rocks instead of 1 | [14:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [14:38] |
| diana_coman: | hm, given 1 tincture is ~1.5mn I guess a click on drudgery is guaranteed to "pop" | [14:47] |
| diana_coman: | !QCalc 5*141488*10.86+500*1000*9.11 | [14:49] |
| lobbesbot: | diana_coman: 12237798.4 | [14:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | defo. | [14:49] |
| diana_coman: | 12mn click, huh | [14:49] |
| diana_coman: | without even cons bp and decay | [14:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | the stuff tears are made of. | [14:50] |
| diana_coman: | nono it's grimes are made of! | [14:50] |
| diana_coman: | lol | [14:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol. btw, if you're clicking that, try and get #1 all time while at it. | [14:50] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, well, I'd *try* but wtf are 2 clicks going to do | [14:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | do it. twice. | [14:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | there is no try! this has been a special message brought to you by yoda radio. | [14:51] |
| diana_coman: | prolly next tinctures will come in 1 month or 1 year or so and then low q too so I don't even think there are many options there anyway | [14:51] |
| diana_coman: | lol! | [14:51] |
| diana_coman: | oh well, 4 and 3mn out of >12mn each time | [14:58] |
| diana_coman: | so much pop | [14:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | tsk | [14:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | for shame. | [15:00] |
| diana_coman: | and anyway out of tinctures now so dunno; got 8 grimes in total , go me | [15:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, let's get moar cr | [15:01] |
| diana_coman: | funnily enough the grimes I got otherwise were precisely from clicking wine bundles, lol | [15:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | ha | [15:02] |
| diana_coman: | maybe that's the idea | [15:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | you want the csw ? | [15:02] |
| diana_coman: | I honestly don't know atm | [15:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | well either way. | [15:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | will finish this ibs run today, make flagons. | [15:03] |
| diana_coman: | there is the fact that I got there grimes q 500 while now they are 900+ | [15:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | 8 grimes 1mn each, not so bad. | [15:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman the other item is, suppose you fully load the bp. 232 grimes q 800 say, that's... almost 200mn ? | [15:04] |
| diana_coman: | myeah, I have that in the back of mind as well; but also q10000 remember? | [15:04] |
| diana_coman: | and no, I won't click it with fox no way | [15:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | yea | [15:05] |
| Mocky: | i'm up to q20 from tiny and q2 from smalls | [16:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | wd! | [16:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | see diana_coman it prolly was tinies | [16:16] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, he's building now with his own bundles so prolly tinies pack more anyway | [16:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm | [16:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | Mocky used all the tinies i gave you ? | [16:17] |
| diana_coman: | Mocky, what q bundle do you use for tinies and what q bundle for smalls? | [16:18] |
| Mocky: | tiny and small only pack 1 for me still. my tiny bundles are 110 using the 110 lbn you gave me. smalls are 100 using a spirover cft. mircea_popescu I used one of the the three, still 2 left | [16:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | a so try one see what happens | [16:32] |
| Mocky: | i will. i put them in storage so bot wouldn't use automatically. i'll try it next lap around to train | [16:35] |
| diana_coman: | ha, meanwhile foxy barely popped on cr q 72 | [16:40] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, I rather start thinking it's some weird interplay of skills at work: a. foxy gets q ~30 on tinies mostly and then all sorts but certainly bigger on smalls b. noob with foxy's tiny bundle gets cr q16 | [16:50] |
| diana_coman: | might add: ALSO q 16 with his own 3-lbn (q4618 each) bundle | [16:53] |
| Mocky: | so with my sortage at 5 tiny boulder claims give: q110 bundle -> 1x20q, q2138 bundle -> 19x20q, q4072 bundle -> 34x20q | [17:01] |
| Mocky: | those are each wiht 1 lbn packed by me | [17:01] |
| Mocky: | curious to see what q11 bundle does, and q100k bundle | [17:01] |
| diana_coman: | aha :) | [17:01] |
| diana_coman: | !QCalc 11*1.1 | [17:02] |
| lobbesbot: | diana_coman: 12.1 | [17:02] |
| diana_coman: | !QCalc 0.2*59 | [17:02] |
| lobbesbot: | diana_coman: 11.8 | [17:02] |
| diana_coman: | seems like a sweet spot of sorts | [17:02] |
| diana_coman: | maybe your char is even good at that! | [17:03] |
| diana_coman: | boulder is also among the lowest q value and there is a clear link: the lower the base value of the item, the higher q obtained from same type of claim + same bundle | [17:05] |
| Mocky: | ahh, interesting | [17:05] |
| diana_coman: | easy to test too, just go and mine some higher q basic, flotsam (it's heavy too) | [17:06] |
| Mocky: | shit, i just hit tubers twice in a row and pegged my sortage. gotta schlep it back to town faster i guess | [17:08] |
| diana_coman: | aha, on low levels it's a bit of back and forth for training | [17:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | also doesn't matter so much if you miss some. | [17:09] |
| Mocky: | half my gangster roll on hoes other half on cft, not gonna waste that exp! lol | [17:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | :) | [17:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | makes sense. | [17:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | the good news being that q20 is starting to veer into buyable range. | [17:10] |
| Mocky: | q11 bundle -> 7x q3 | [17:19] |
| diana_coman: | makes some sense at least! | [17:19] |
| Mocky: | q101940 bundle -> 837x q20 | [17:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | so basically you're capped at 20 | [17:38] |
| Mocky: | wtf | [17:40] |
| Mocky: | i jsut relogged in and came as mircea, relogged again came in as kyla, go to start mining, i have wrong table | [17:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | o noes, did you steal my table ?!?! | [17:41] |
| Mocky: | must have dragged away the wrong one | [17:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | mine still here tho | [17:42] |
| Mocky: | this has 299m grass | [17:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | sounds like dpb's maybe | [17:45] |
| Mocky: | ok found mine | [17:45] |
| Mocky: | what should i do with this one? | [17:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | hold it for ransom i guess ? | [17:45] |
| Mocky: | if i take off is it going to vanish cuz i was guarding it? | [17:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | i expect | [17:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah, danielpbarron got logged off apparently. | [17:49] |
| Mocky: | danielpbarron, imma back off so you can get this table | [17:51] |
| danielpbarron: | ok | [17:51] |
| danielpbarron: | ty | [17:53] |
| Mocky: | mircea_popescu, capped at 20, seems like | [18:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | well... better than the 1 before | [18:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | wooot! | [21:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | love these last-few-clicks pops. | [21:59] |
| Mocky: | ooh, i just got a smelly murky something. | [22:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | o.O | [23:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | those are valuable. | [23:20] |
| Mocky: | i put it with my stacks of mysterious rocks | [23:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | stacks ?!@ | [23:32] |
| hanbot: | whoa srsly? auction 'em Mocky! | [23:33] |
| Mocky: | maybe dozen total, some q1, some q2 | [23:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | nuts. | [23:34] |
| hanbot: | can't remember the last time she found rocks/murky somethings | [23:36] |
| hanbot: | tho possibly cause mining is an exercise in self-punishment atm :D | [23:36] |
| hanbot: | choice is between wondering if i'm seriously up for manually mining with regular tools, and the 3 - 10 basics per item acquired per click therein, else mining with chetty sticks and table walking from godknowswhere back to town every third click. the thirst for a bot, it deeeeepens. | [23:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | in other unfair, need 26mn to make it into the month top | [23:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | WHAY | [23:42] |
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