| Birdman: | not to mention its going to be much more expensive and much more scarce | [00:00] |
| diana_coman: | Birdman> speaking of, if either hanbot or danielpbarron has the mining and lumberjack skill i would love to buy <- mining is The Good Hammer and that is sold in foxy's store | [02:16] |
| diana_coman: | <mircea_popescu> btw another batch of imp hoes should be done tomorrow. <- yay, I almost finished the previous batch :D | [02:16] |
| Birdman: | wow 9mn i probs cant afford atm lol | [02:17] |
| Birdman: | will keep it in mind though | [02:17] |
| diana_coman: | mlcmolina> can you tell me how to do a productive gathering? <- if it was so straightforward, it would be fully automated and possibly called printing money | [02:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | there is that. | [02:18] |
| diana_coman: | mlcmolina in any case the log contains at least a few discussions on the topic for noobs so it should give you some pointers if nothing else | [02:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | wow diana_coman you went through all those imps ?! | [02:18] |
| diana_coman: | as much as I had cft atm; have to decide somehow wtf to do about cft due to the currently unsustainable cft bp production | [02:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | you got any sr/f/slag you're selling btw ? | [02:20] |
| diana_coman: | sr&f should be; I'll have a look later today when I get to go through the inv | [02:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | kk | [02:22] |
| diana_coman: | o.O I have 1 (ONE, lol) smelly murky something | [02:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | nb | [02:23] |
| diana_coman: | I find it quite hilarious compared to the pile of rocks danielpbarron got that other single time when someone got a loot of this sort, lol | [02:23] |
| Birdman: | he collected those when you could i think, when i looted a rock i got just one | [02:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | nah he popped | [02:33] |
| diana_coman: | Birdman, http://danielpbarron.com/2016/until-it-isnt/ | [02:33] |
| diana_coman: | 1029 of them, lol | [02:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | but yes diana_coman has a point, cft bps may be turning into a severe issue. | [02:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman what did mlcmolina's click yield ? | [02:34] |
| diana_coman: | 41 cft bp iirc as I said here | [02:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | i mean altogether | [02:34] |
| diana_coman: | ugh I don't recall on the spot now but it was below 1mn bv; mainly srs bps - some 30k of them; some dg and the cft; q 10 iirc | [02:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | srs is good too truth be told. | [02:36] |
| diana_coman: | I was selling it to you, lol | [02:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | issue is though - even if he looted 30k cft bps, wtf would you do with them q 10 | [02:36] |
| diana_coman: | next time we happen to be at same time in town | [02:37] |
| diana_coman: | myeah | [02:37] |
| diana_coman: | well, still better than NO cft bps | [02:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | tru. | [02:37] |
| diana_coman: | I wouldn't have minded 30k cft bps even q10 | [02:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | well sure. | [02:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, doing a run of btk nao because all this bcs/imp runs kinda dented mine. however, once that's done ima try for some tink clicks. | [02:37] |
| Birdman: | thats one hell of a pop | [02:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | word. | [02:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, nighty all. | [02:38] |
| diana_coman: | good night | [02:38] |
| Birdman: | night | [02:38] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, available: 6946sr q245; 3507 sr q350; 5747 sr q209; 813 f q328; 9999 + 9999+ 9525 srs bps q12 | [10:24] |
| diana_coman: | was there something else you wanted? | [10:24] |
| diana_coman: | oh, 2200 wwb q323 | [10:26] |
| diana_coman: | I can also sell 1025 slag q8 for 100k the lot | [10:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | yup taking all. | [10:41] |
| diana_coman: | managed to make it 3 full stacks of the srs bps in the end | [10:42] |
| diana_coman: | hm, not sure if it mixes the sr or not | [10:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc (6496* 2.46 + 3507 * 3.5 + 5747 * 2.09) * 79 * 1.5 + 813 * 88 * 3.28 * 1.5 + 29997 * 45 * 5 * .12 + 2200 * 141 * 3.23 * 1.95 | [10:43] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: (6496* 2.46 + 3507 * 3.5 + 5747 * 2.09) * 79 * 1.5 + 813 * 88 * 3.28 * 1.5 + 29997 * 45 * 5 * .12 + 2200 * 141 * 3.23 * 1.95 = 7887218.1450000005 | [10:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | that right ? | [10:43] |
| diana_coman: | 6946, lol; let's see | [10:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh | [10:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc (6946* 2.46 + 3507 * 3.5 + 5747 * 2.09) * 79 * 1.5 + 813 * 88 * 3.28 * 1.5 + 29997 * 45 * 5 * .12 + 2200 * 141 * 3.23 * 1.95 | [10:44] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: (6946* 2.46 + 3507 * 3.5 + 5747 * 2.09) * 79 * 1.5 + 813 * 88 * 3.28 * 1.5 + 29997 * 45 * 5 * .12 + 2200 * 141 * 3.23 * 1.95 = 8018397.6450000005 | [10:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | excuse my dyslexia. | [10:44] |
| diana_coman: | and 2.45q | [10:45] |
| diana_coman: | anyways | [10:45] |
| diana_coman: | accept so I fish out the slag and give the rest of sr | [10:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh | [10:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | too lazy to fix that one. | [10:47] |
| diana_coman: | prolly 8mn is fine | [10:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc (6946* 2.45 + 3507 * 3.5 + 5747 * 2.09) * 79 * 1.5 + 813 * 88 * 3.28 * 1.5 + 29997 * 45 * 5 * .12 + 2200 * 141 * 3.23 * 1.95 | [10:47] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: (6946* 2.45 + 3507 * 3.5 + 5747 * 2.09) * 79 * 1.5 + 813 * 88 * 3.28 * 1.5 + 29997 * 45 * 5 * .12 + 2200 * 141 * 3.23 * 1.95 = 8010166.635000001 | [10:47] |
| diana_coman: | I think this is all, right? | [10:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | sweet, tyvm | [10:49] |
| diana_coman: | enjoy | [10:49] |
| diana_coman: | and I'll gladly buy any cft & imps | [10:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | batch of imps going on sale within minutes. | [10:50] |
| diana_coman: | given the lack of cft I'm thinking of doing a long run of underbuild as well - using 1 single low q cft; at least it certainly spreads it longer although it seems such a waste of smalls | [10:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | does it ? | [10:52] |
| diana_coman: | funnily enough it is +ev on a small by small basis | [10:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | whatever pays best neh ? | [10:53] |
| diana_coman: | myeah, there is the thorny issue of xp unaccounted in there though | [10:53] |
| diana_coman: | and well, in principle the no-pop-chance although foxy's not great at popping anyway | [10:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | AUCTION : 57 IMP CH, d 32197 ea, opening 3,5 mn eta tomorrow 17:00 art | [10:58] |
| diana_coman: | 2.5mn on imps mircea_popescu | [11:00] |
| diana_coman: | 3.5 lol! | [11:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | AUCTION : 57 IMP CH, d 32197 ea, 3,5 mn heard diana_coman eta tomorrow 17:00 art | [11:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | and in other news, 3k slag underway, lalala. | [11:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | AUCTION : 57 IMP CH, d 32197 ea, 3,5 mn heard diana_coman ; 4000 CFT q110, opening 1.3mn eta tomorrow 17:00 art | [11:17] |
| diana_coman: | 1.3mn on cft mircea_popescu | [11:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm ? i can't hear you ? is someone bidding on my cft ? | [11:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | mwahahaha | [11:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | AUCTION : 57 IMP CH, d 32197 ea, 3,5 mn heard diana_coman ; 4000 CFT q110, 1.3mn heard diana_coman eta tomorrow 17:00 art | [11:29] |
| diana_coman: | you know, if I had a secure supply of tools+cft+lbn I'd gladly just explore the whole time | [11:30] |
| diana_coman: | if only | [11:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | im trying to build this tbh. | [11:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | will do some tink clicks to explore that situation, i suspect it may be possible, just, insufficient volumes yet | [11:32] |
| diana_coman: | funny how it seems we might have solved the grass-input issue but now ran into bp issue | [11:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman if i get this correctly you can at most eat maybe 6-700k bv of imp/day of mining ; considering all crafting processes and with lowish q ingredients/bps i can produce that in maybe 6 or so hours. cft is even lighter. in theory, provided i have good stocks/pipelines i should be able to maintain 2-3 miners like you. | [11:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | the only serious problem is that stock/pipeline thing, because well, gotta have oodlebunches of stuff. but as game progresses and player assets accumulate it's gotta solve | [11:36] |
| diana_coman: | well, that's always the problem at least so far in eulora | [11:36] |
| diana_coman: | stock/pipeline everywhere | [11:36] |
| diana_coman: | and yeah, hopefully it solves as game progresses | [11:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | yes but so far this sr/f delivery put me well ahead of the woes in terms of tool pipeline. | [11:37] |
| diana_coman: | heh, you do realise I did a f/sr run just earlier precisely with a view to this | [11:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | and i do have some cft stashed, so, who knows, maybe jan 2017 is when this engine finally starts. | [11:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | i figured :) | [11:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | good call. | [11:37] |
| diana_coman: | otherwise logically speaking the most +ev thing would be for me to explore all the time at bubbles or st or something of that type | [11:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah but how long'll that last. | [11:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | well actually considering the auction coming up you prolly do want like a few hundred bubbles stored up neh ? | [11:38] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, but if I run out of tools then I clearly can't get that either | [11:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | there is that | [11:39] |
| diana_coman: | I think this is basically because too few miners | [11:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, i spent nov/dec mining mostly out of sheer need, if i have materials i dun have any problem sitting and crafting | [11:39] |
| diana_coman: | so I kind of have to run in all directions and cover a lot | [11:39] |
| diana_coman: | curiously circular this | [11:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm ? | [11:40] |
| diana_coman: | I really suspect it would get more balanced perhaps if more miners around | [11:40] |
| hanbot: | mircea_popescu 4.5mn on the hoes, 2mn on the cft please | [11:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | ye | [11:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | AUCTION : 57 IMP CH, d 32197 ea, 4.5 mn heard hanbot ; 4000 CFT q110, 2mn heard hanbot eta tomorrow 17:00 art | [11:41] |
| diana_coman: | re circular: I end up crafting because no inputs for mining, you end up mining because no inputs for crafting | [11:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah there may be some synnergy | [11:41] |
| hanbot: | meanwhile, AUCTION: 20 ist q298. bids start at 10mn, closes jan 7th at 2300 ART | [11:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | 10mn | [11:42] |
| hanbot: | 10m heard mircea_popescu | [11:42] |
| diana_coman: | 5.5mn on the imps mircea_popescu | [11:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | AUCTION : 57 IMP CH, d 32197 ea, 5.5 mn heard diana_coman ; 4000 CFT q110, 2mn heard hanbot eta tomorrow 17:00 art | [11:44] |
| mlcmolina: | hi all | [13:08] |
| mlcmolina: | mircea_popescu, diana_coman, can i do some task for you? | [13:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | hola mlcmolina | [13:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | and yeah, you can. come trade me. | [13:15] |
| mlcmolina: | ahi voy ;) | [13:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | :) | [13:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | see you soon. | [13:18] |
| Birdman: | 6mn on the hoes 2.5mn on the cft mircea_popescu | [13:56] |
| Birdman: | found 3 ords barehanding yesterday | [13:56] |
| Birdman: | not a single one when i used tools :p | [13:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | wow. pretty good | [13:56] |
| Birdman: | such is variance i assume | [13:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | AUCTION : 57 IMP CH, d 32197 ea, 6 mn heard Birdman ; 4000 CFT q110, 2,5mn heard Birdman eta tomorrow 17:00 art | [13:57] |
| Birdman: | i just hope im not 'wasting' some build up of expected value from burning tools / training | [13:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | how'd that work ? | [13:57] |
| Birdman: | maybe you train some levels maybe you used a few tools without finding any decent smalls or ords and that brings up some multiplier on your chances to pop or find some great claim or something | [13:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | i guess so | [13:58] |
| Birdman: | broke 300 building too :D | [14:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | wd! | [14:07] |
| diana_coman: | 6.5mn on imps mircea_popescu | [14:08] |
| diana_coman: | mlcmolina, I have something for you - I'll be in game in about half an hour | [14:09] |
| Birdman: | 6.75mn | [14:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | AUCTION : 57 IMP CH, d 32197 ea, 6.75 mn heard Birdman ; 4000 CFT q110, 2,5mn heard Birdman eta tomorrow 17:00 art | [14:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | mlcmolina 's bidniss going pretty well huh :D | [14:25] |
| Birdman: | i probs should've had him build my grass ords, got a whopping ~500 from two of em | [14:26] |
| mlcmolina: | yes, i found 0.01 btc worth of loot! | [14:27] |
| Birdman: | wooo! | [14:28] |
| mlcmolina: | i coming back to town now.. | [14:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | epic. | [14:30] |
| diana_coman: | well done mlcmolina, congrats on your first pop | [14:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | totally, he made the pop list! | [14:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | is this the first case of noob popping on ord hire ? | [14:40] |
| diana_coman: | I vaguely remember someone else having an ord pop like that before | [14:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | a ? hm. i don't. | [14:41] |
| diana_coman: | I might be confusing it with some craft-pop though, can't say for sure and I don't seem to be able to find it in the logs | [14:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | watch this guy get me out of the top once he starts working on his own | [14:44] |
| mlcmolina: | mircea_popescu: trade me? | [14:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | you're too far and i can't move | [14:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | drop the table over here an' come over | [14:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | aite now step back | [14:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc (137201 + 5295 + 6938 + 6763) * 79 * .09 * .15 | [14:49] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: (137201 + 5295 + 6938 + 6763) * 79 * .09 * .15 = 166584.10049999997 | [14:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | uh why'd he quit | [14:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | mlcmolina trade me for your loot. | [14:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | eeenjoy! | [14:52] |
| mlcmolina: | great!! | [14:53] |
| mlcmolina: | can i now do work for diana_coman now? | [14:54] |
| diana_coman: | yes mlcmolina , trade me | [14:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | yup. | [14:55] |
| diana_coman: | you might find activating labels useful | [14:55] |
| diana_coman: | mlcmolina, accept | [14:55] |
| mlcmolina: | how i do it ? (activate labels) | [14:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | and yeah do you know how to toggle autorun ? and also how to see the top of pops ? ( /show top ) | [14:56] |
| diana_coman: | rummage through the options there, as there is one that should turn labels on so you see it written in red above each item you can interact with in the world | [14:57] |
| diana_coman: | the cog icon at the top is the options | [14:57] |
| diana_coman: | graphics/labels | [14:58] |
| mlcmolina: | ok, i'll see it | [15:01] |
| mlcmolina: | diana_coman: i'm back | [15:36] |
| diana_coman: | hm, next time you are around mlcmolina then | [16:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | AUCTION : 57 IMP CH, d 32197 ea, 6.75 mn heard Birdman ; 4000 CFT q110, 2,5mn heard Birdman eta tomorrow 17:00 art | [18:47] |
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