#eulora Logs for 28 Dec 2016



December 28th, 2016 by Diana Coman
diana_coman: hanbot, trade? [04:30]
Framedragger: in light of (obviously valid) unity hate, can i get an account on eulora please, mircea_popescu? :) [11:30]
mircea_popescu: sure just a sec Framedragger [11:32]
Framedragger: (won't have time for the amazing hackaton unfortunately - plus i'm hungover from whisky-filled party. i'm getting older...:( ) [11:33]
mircea_popescu: Framedragger http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/3sFOD/?raw=true [11:36]
Framedragger: thank you mircea_popescu! [11:37]
Framedragger: i'll get around to it soon :) [11:37]
mircea_popescu: no rush. [11:37]
diana_coman: heh, welcome to Eulora, Framedragger [11:40]
Framedragger: thx - will be a slow start tho, too much whisky / may fall asleep before that happens :D [11:41]
diana_coman: lol, no rush, eulora is here to stay [11:42]
jurov: Framedragger: may I sell you some coppers before you sober up? [11:42]
Framedragger: jurov sure, but what's the commodity on my end? do i need to fund my account first? [11:43]
mircea_popescu: lol jurov [11:43]
Framedragger: oh, you mean btc->ecu [11:43]
Framedragger: or joke [11:43]
Framedragger: slow [11:43]
jurov: just ordinary bitcoins/coinbr balance [11:44]
Framedragger: nah let's wait, but thanks for the offer :) [11:44]
Framedragger: i'm currently retrieving my encrypted gpg key and i've already made some shitty typos, god [11:45]
jurov: did you at least compile and ran the client already? [11:45]
Framedragger: no [11:46]
jurov: then you need to adjust the dosage to get ballmer peak [11:46]
diana_coman: danielpbarron, ping me when you are in town for those wheels you wanted [11:46]
Framedragger: indeed jurov [11:46]
hanbot: diana_coman i'm around & in town now [11:59]
diana_coman: hanbot, can you trade me please? [11:59]
diana_coman: ugh, need to finish this milk, should be some 4 min [12:00]
hanbot: kk [12:00]
diana_coman: hanbot, ready [12:08]
Framedragger: hm, in step 3 of ubuntu install instructions, the first two lines use wget: missing URL
Usage: wget [OPTION]... [URL]...

Try ‘wget --help’ for more options., but the third one uses . :p

[12:10]
hanbot: diana_coman requested [12:10]
diana_coman: thank you! [12:11]
hanbot: thanks :) [12:11]
Framedragger: (also - just fyi - http://minigame.bz/eulora/binaries/cal3d.tar.gz does not contain "AM_USE_UNITTESTCPP" (which is to be commented out, as per instructions) anywhere. there *is* a "#define USE_UNITTESTCPP 1" in configure (not configure.in) but it's already commented out :) ) [12:20]
mircea_popescu: yeah instructions prolly needs updating, sounds like leftover from 2015 [12:22]
Framedragger: no biggie at all, may confuse some noobs is all [12:23]
mircea_popescu: Framedragger feel free to edit teh wiki [12:23]
Framedragger: ah can i do that? ok! [12:23]
Framedragger: also i'm curious, is there a reason to use a full-blown animation library? any plans to use more of it later? :) i imagine it is quite heavy on machine's resources? [12:32]
Framedragger: maybe skeletal parts will affect actual game mechanics later? :) [12:32]
mircea_popescu: they will yes. [12:41]
shinohai: If I somehow survive the meta-game, I do so badly want to see a text mud-like client. [12:42]
mircea_popescu: i give it even odds to happen in 2017 tbh. it's not actually ~that~ hard, just, gotta get people moving. [12:45]
Framedragger: interesting. [12:45]
mircea_popescu: as botwriting develops it exposes the command interface slowly bridging the gap at any rate. [12:46]
mircea_popescu: uhm. [12:54]
mircea_popescu: Framedragger there's no record of this problem, did you get a current cs ? [12:57]
shinohai: if i get jurov's ecl thingy to work, i might be in bidness [12:58]
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i got the cs linked to on download page [13:00]
Framedragger: eh i'll return to this later. will ping if i find anything useful [13:01]
mircea_popescu: kk [13:01]
Framedragger: (this is on ubuntu 16.04 64 bit fwiw) [13:01]
mircea_popescu: Framedragger tis not known to be a problem. [13:01]
mircea_popescu: also fwiw, lobbes- 's log has search, see http://logs.minigame.bz/search?q=framedragger [13:02]
lobbesbot: Title: Search IRC logs (at logs.minigame.bz) [13:02]
Framedragger: ah yeah that's useful, thx [13:03]
shinohai: Framedragger: i have a dusty drunken autoinstaller around here somewhere that clones all deps from minigame mirrors [13:20]
Framedragger: shinohai: ah cool! but i think i already have all the deps, followed steps diligently. it's complaining about a thingie within a specific source tree, not about some tool or library missing (which is often more headache'y) :p [13:21]
mircea_popescu: it promises to be pretty headache-y, it may be that your gcc refuses to properly make static libs. [13:22]
shinohai: sooo simple to build on gentoo too [13:22]
Framedragger: ah maybe need older gcc. g++ --version says 5.4.0 [13:25]
mircea_popescu: i compiled without problems using 4.4 series [13:27]
mircea_popescu: i would not trust 5. main version, and fully expect it deliberately subverts static linking. [13:28]
shinohai: I am using 4.8 i think [13:28]
jurov: gentoo ues 4.9.x by default [13:54]
jurov: and someone is trying to statically compile cs or eulora? /me bewildered [13:55]
mircea_popescu: cal3d. [13:55]
mircea_popescu: what i got from the error message is that it fails to dynamically link cs against the statically linked cal3d. [13:56]
jurov: ah that one. no idea [13:59]
mircea_popescu: so i'm experimentally trying out the mining bot with ord bundle in pockets see what happens. [14:36]
shinohai: Here is where I get to when I eval (load "src/common/lisp/compile.lsp") jurov http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/ciPA8/?raw=true [14:44]
jurov: please notice *USER-LD-FLAGS* [14:45]
shinohai: kk [14:45]
jurov: these and CFLAGS must be updated by hand as per your environment [14:45]
shinohai: ahh missed that thx [14:46]
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, it won't build them. the code that handles them doesn't even check if you have materials [15:02]
danielpbarron: considers anything greater than a small is "unknown" [15:03]
mircea_popescu: sucks. [15:11]
diana_coman: in fact, anything *other* than a tiny or small; no notion of greater/hierarchy [15:13]
diana_coman: ~20k + 40k the 2 wwb ords from hanbot fwiw [16:38]
hanbot: that qabv or mpqabv? [17:29]
mircea_popescu: so wait, 100k in bundles + 50k for sticks => 60k wwb worth ~110k ? [17:31]
hanbot: wait, 20k + 40k BERRIES?! [17:35]
diana_coman: qabv [17:50]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, yes, ~150 input -> output worth ~110k [17:52]
mircea_popescu: could be worse. [17:55]
diana_coman: yes; + there is also the xp, un-quantifiable as that is atm [17:56]
mircea_popescu: yeh. [18:02]

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