| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, hearding together all the mites, here's the last count: 21 at 640q; 105 at 414q; 21 at 403q; 588 at 378q; 21 at 364q; 51 at 265q; 42 at 173q | [05:08] |
| diana_coman: | !~calc 4.8*1000*(21*6.4+105*4.14+21*4.03+588*3.78+21*3.64+51*2.65+42*1.73) | [05:10] |
| jhvh1: | diana_coman: 4.8*1000*(21*6.4+105*4.14+21*4.03+588*3.78+21*3.64+51*2.65+42*1.73) = 15170976 | [05:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | nice! trade me diana_coman | [06:34] |
| shinohai: | diana_coman: Is your map script no longer available or did it just move? | [07:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | o noes! | [07:25] |
| diana_coman: | hm let me check that shinohai - it should be there | [07:44] |
| shinohai: | kk ... I got a "Pagina inaccesibila." when I go there | [07:46] |
| diana_coman: | fixed now | [07:50] |
| diana_coman: | I probably wiped it out by mistake last time I updated the cookbook | [07:50] |
| shinohai: | Thanks! :D | [07:50] |
| diana_coman: | thanks for pointing it out to me as I wouldn't have seen it in ages | [07:50] |
| shinohai: | stores backup to his eulora page | [07:50] |
| diana_coman: | hm, looking at that old map with so much white space, lol | [07:52] |
| shinohai: | I had a copy but well before I actually started playing, suppose I lost it. | [07:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [07:53] |
| shinohai: | During my anond phase | [07:53] |
| shinohai: | writes a daemon called that changes your linux distro randomly every day | [07:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | ahaha | [07:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | that poor guy. | [07:55] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, ready | [07:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | daqt feeling when you owe 17 coins, and you HAVE 17 coins. | [07:56] |
| diana_coman: | enjoy! | [07:56] |
| diana_coman: | can you take that table with them | [07:56] |
| diana_coman: | ? | [07:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman how many tables do i owe you by now ? | [07:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | nope | [07:56] |
| diana_coman: | lolz, I guess there was one that I gave to Ed or something | [07:56] |
| diana_coman: | ugh, I am waiting on a tome to finish so I can move | [07:57] |
| diana_coman: | it's kind of half way there, some 5 minutes more, sorry | [07:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh. k. | [07:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | pingez moi! | [07:57] |
| diana_coman: | will do | [07:57] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, ping! | [08:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | dude... | [08:09] |
| diana_coman: | ? | [08:10] |
| diana_coman: | thanks! | [08:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | ty! | [08:10] |
| diana_coman: | hm, did hanbot get her altar? | [08:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | i did | [08:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | she;s got a pretty shitty connection doesn't she | [08:13] |
| shinohai: | My map is a bit sparse still lol http://btcinfo.sdf.org/uploads/exploremap.png | [08:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | o hey pretty cool! | [08:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | are you making a blog yet ? :)) | [08:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | will run the scripts publish a map later on also! | [08:17] |
| shinohai: | I started one here, still got a lot of work to do http://btcinfo.sdf.org/eulora/ | [08:18] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: Eulora (at btcinfo.sdf.org) | [08:18] |
| diana_coman: | so hmm, this last week it turns out foxy had trades about 1.5btc total with all those woa and mites and stuff | [08:18] |
| diana_coman: | it seems hanbot gets disconnected quite a lot lately, yeah; at least the altar didn't vanish or something | [08:18] |
| diana_coman: | ha ha, impaled by a small claim shinohai ? | [08:19] |
| shinohai: | Yeah I was feeling very Vlad that day :D | [08:19] |
| diana_coman: | lol; initially I thought you used that cone as a hat :p | [08:20] |
| shinohai: | Now I have chair for head so I don't have to improvise xD | [08:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [08:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman did she make any profit ? | [08:24] |
| diana_coman: | yes | [08:26] |
| diana_coman: | !~calc 277762/(12255*2.83) | [08:28] |
| jhvh1: | diana_coman: 277762/(12255*2.83) = 8.008903843963594 | [08:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | what's that, 8mn ? | [08:29] |
| diana_coman: | no, that's danielpbarron asking for 800\% on woa now | [08:29] |
| diana_coman: | I suspect his "pricing scheme" goes along the lines : keep increasing the price until nobody wants to buy it anymore | [08:30] |
| diana_coman: | it is a valid way of finding the current maximum price of sorts | [08:32] |
| danielpbarron: | you didn't say a thing when one of the batches was offered at a lower \% markup than the previous.. | [08:32] |
| diana_coman: | ? each time I looked it was *higher* | [08:33] |
| diana_coman: | it started 660\% iirc , then I paid 700\%+ | [08:33] |
| diana_coman: | and now it's 800\% | [08:33] |
| danielpbarron: | i am not just arbitrarily raising the price. there is a formula, and it applies to most of the things in my store | [08:33] |
| diana_coman: | what does that do exactly? | [08:34] |
| diana_coman: | (from this side of things I can tell you what it will do, namely increase the price you'll pay on any ss from me for sure) | [08:34] |
| danielpbarron: | shrugs | [08:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | looks like some sort of exponential on the quality. | [08:36] |
| diana_coman: | hm, I think it was lower quality and higher markup one of the batches but there doesn't seem to be any point in bothering to check it now | [08:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | hmm lessee | [08:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | 45 woa is available, q 264 this time. price is 225489 ; 277762/(12255*2.83) ; 215393 / 2.6 / 12255 ; (AUCTION : 34 WoA, q a whooping 785! 13mn heard diana_coman eta nov 10 17:00 art.) | [08:39] |
| diana_coman: | ? | [08:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | i'm doing a history thing here. | [08:40] |
| diana_coman: | ah, ok | [08:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc 225489 / 2.64 / 12255 | [08:40] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: 225489 / 2.64 / 12255 = 6.969604243166054 | [08:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc 277762 / 2.83 / 12255 | [08:40] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: 277762 / 2.83 / 12255 = 8.008903843963594 | [08:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc 215393 / 2.6 / 12255 | [08:41] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: 215393 / 2.6 / 12255 = 6.759972381759407 | [08:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc 13000000 / 7.85 / 12255 / 34 | [08:41] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: 13000000 / 7.85 / 12255 / 34 = 3.974490497069654 | [08:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | heh. | [08:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc 225489 / (2.64**2 ) / 12255 | [08:42] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: 225489 / (2.64**2 ) / 12255 = 2.6400016072598684 | [08:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc 277762 / (2.83**2) / 12255 | [08:42] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: 277762 / (2.83**2) / 12255 = 2.830001358291023 | [08:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc 215393 / (2.6**2) / 12255 | [08:42] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: 215393 / (2.6**2) / 12255 = 2.5999893775997713 | [08:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc 225489 / (2.64**3.14) / 12255 | [08:42] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: 225489 / (2.64**3.14) / 12255 = 0.8729225539752273 | [08:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc 277762 / (2.83**3.14) / 12255 | [08:42] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: 277762 / (2.83**3.14) / 12255 = 0.8644703604240245 | [08:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc 215393 / (2.6**3.14) / 12255 | [08:43] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: 215393 / (2.6**3.14) / 12255 = 0.8747862677850061 | [08:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah see it normalizes almost entirely. | [08:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | his formula is pretty much quality ^ n which n is about 4 or such | [08:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | not altogether a bad theoretical approach though the n should probably be in the vein of the golden section (ie, 1.x) rather than in the vein of straight x. | [08:44] |
| danielpbarron: | hehe | [08:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | imagine that by your formula my q 7.95 woa should have sold for what, | [08:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc 7.85**4 * 12255 * 34 | [08:46] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: 7.85**4 * 12255 * 34 = 1.5822345353791873E9 | [08:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | 1,6bn almost ? that can't possibly be right. | [08:47] |
| danielpbarron: | the idea is that the difficulty in increasing a product's quality grows exponentially, not linearly | [08:48] |
| diana_coman: | eh, who cares for right or such things; it's a formula! it's not arbitrarily changing and therefore all is aok. | [08:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | the idea as such is right ; but i suspect the exponent you use is very wrong. | [08:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | the advantage of having formulas is that they (if correct) allow you to allocate capital efficiently so as not to die ; but by this formula you would be well advised to spend 1bn to get 34 q 785 woa ; which is certainly incorrect and therefore you may die. | [08:50] |
| danielpbarron: | did anyone make such water? | [08:50] |
| diana_coman: | goes to knit some shrugs | [08:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | well yes, i sold it at auction : http://logs.minigame.bz/2016-12-09.log.html#t13:39:35 | [08:51] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: #Eulora log for Friday, 2016-12-09 (at logs.minigame.bz) | [08:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh wait wrong link 1 sec | [08:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://logs.minigame.bz/2016-11-09.log.html#t13:41:55 | [08:51] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: #Eulora log for Wednesday, 2016-11-09 (at logs.minigame.bz) | [08:51] |
| danielpbarron: | crazy | [08:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | so for one thing : the basis (ie 1) for your exponentiation probably shouldn't be q 100. i kinda effortlessly make over q200 in most things, i expect something around 200, maybe in the 180/225 range is fair as a basis for exponentiation. | [08:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | and for the other thing 2 is certainly a hard upper bound, because it diverges too fast and you lose the outside tail. | [08:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | but the general idea is certainly merituous ; you might enjoy reading mathematical analysis textbooks esp in what it pertains to fitting ; interpolation ; equational reversing etc. | [08:57] |
| hanbot: | o ffs. ty mircea_popescu for saving my stuff. | [11:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | sure thing | [11:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | ready to pick up ? | [11:05] |
| hanbot: | 30s | [11:05] |
| hanbot: | whoa nvm that, can't even load the game. this'll take some futzing. | [11:05] |
| hanbot: | there we go. | [11:06] |
| hanbot: | got it, thanks. | [11:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | :) | [11:09] |
| diana_coman: | ahahah, got 150 ss 309q | [14:48] |
| diana_coman: | !~calc 150*3.09*1165 | [14:48] |
| jhvh1: | diana_coman: 150*3.09*1165 = 539977.5 | [14:48] |
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