| diana_coman: | hm, is that will look into it, hanbot ; | [04:11] |
| diana_coman: | hanbot, have you tried a "take all" on that altar? | [04:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | 107 cs, 216 eps | [08:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | holy shit already i need 2k | [08:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | dupa melci in plm. | [08:42] |
| shinohai: | gm Eulora | [08:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | heya shinohai | [08:50] |
| diana_coman: | well, as long as you don't run out of cs at least... | [08:53] |
| diana_coman: | morning shinohai , how's it going? | [08:53] |
| shinohai: | Not bad, gonna log in and see what I find today. | [08:53] |
| shinohai: | polishes his samovar | [08:53] |
| shinohai: | You guys having any luck with crafts today ? | [08:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | i've been mining. pretty horrible. | [08:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc 216 * 6.12 * 399 / 109 / 20202 | [08:58] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: 216 * 6.12 * 399 / 109 / 20202 = 0.2395285052165787 | [08:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | you hear that, 23.95\% returns | [08:58] |
| shinohai: | I'm out mining with my last hoe. | [08:58] |
| shinohai: | O.o | [08:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | o lol no, wait. | [08:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc 216 * 6.12 * 399 / (109 * 20202 + 637 * 180 * 2.87) | [08:59] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: 216 * 6.12 * 399 / (109 * 20202 + 637 * 180 * 2.87) = 0.20838675098441692 | [08:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | there we go. | [08:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | and that's 2.5mn BASE VALUE of expensive shit like mostly cs. | [08:59] |
| diana_coman: | I've been mainly crafting, but nothing impressive, so far -ev anyway | [09:02] |
| shinohai: | So who pissed of the game gods. >.> | [09:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | for srs | [09:26] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, I can sell 1k eps but they are 127q only; let me know if that's any help | [09:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | notrly, im going for 600 here. | [09:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | but thanks! | [09:37] |
| diana_coman: | welcome back danielpbarron | [10:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman i figure if nothing else, high q cook numina should be worth something. | [10:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | looking through the list, they're really not that easy to make. | [10:13] |
| diana_coman: | well, as long as no apprentice cook cons not really needed though | [10:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | how long is that gonna last. | [10:13] |
| diana_coman: | no idea, it's not me the one making considerations | [10:13] |
| diana_coman: | but sure, in the long term they should be worth quite a lot; like most things around anyway | [10:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, there's cheaper things - acg and bbb, both of which take much higher stuff (tlc and md respectively). there's of course cp but that's very low value so rather dubious. maybe the tea would be a contender, but not many recipes | [10:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | so i've decided ima do some high level, maximal oc bods. | [10:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | so far it's fucking me in the ass, but hey, what can you do. | [10:15] |
| diana_coman: | go for it, I'm not much of a cook myself | [10:15] |
| diana_coman: | well, you might pop with a ton of bods | [10:15] |
| diana_coman: | not the worst thing | [10:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah maybe. | [10:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | the other thing is - you want to overcraft all recipes that are rare | [10:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | because hey, maybe you multiloot | [10:16] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, yes and no | [10:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | why not ? | [10:16] |
| diana_coman: | in my xp foxy seems to stand a decent chance to multiloot ONLY when oc about double in value | [10:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | o.O | [10:17] |
| diana_coman: | not exactly feasible for huge value stuff things that ARE rare though | [10:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | so like 10k bundle, 20k oc ? | [10:17] |
| diana_coman: | so yeah, theoretically you'd want to but practically not always worth it unless you can really do it hugely oc | [10:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | well we're going to have a datapoint because ima make a 175 bod run with this idea. | [10:18] |
| diana_coman: | by double value I meant: put in bundle at 200q, get out item at 100q | [10:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | last i tried this it worked out very nice, i dun recall what but im sure i bitched in the logs. | [10:18] |
| diana_coman: | I don't think I ever did a reasonably long run like that (so at least 300 clicks) without getting SOME multiloot | [10:19] |
| diana_coman: | well, I stand by my all-the-time-long-observation that foxy has horrible "luck" | [10:19] |
| diana_coman: | so it might work for your Mircescu, sure | [10:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | tananana :D | [10:20] |
| diana_coman: | basically if eulora would be possible to play through undercraft ONLY, I certainly would; as it is, it doesn't really work that way, so I choose and pick | [10:21] |
| diana_coman: | lol, what are you tanana-ing about? | [10:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | my good fortune~! | [10:23] |
| diana_coman: | lol! | [10:23] |
| shinohai: | Anyone have a Demeaning Urabihs Harness bp for sale ? | [10:33] |
| diana_coman: | shinohai, I can sell one to you; are you sure though that you don't want better the actual item (harness)? keep in mind that its durability is important since it will get decayed as you cook with it | [10:36] |
| shinohai: | Good point, lemme mull that a bit | [10:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | also iirc it takes bct which take cft | [10:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://logs.minigame.bz/2015-06-20.log.html#t10:21:13 << ahh recall last year ? lol | [13:41] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: #Eulora log for Saturday, 2015-06-20 (at logs.minigame.bz) | [13:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | lobbes lemme tell you the search and your log generally have been immensely useful, i'm writing this article now i couldn't have well written without 'em. | [13:54] |
| hanbot: | <diana_coman> hanbot, have you tried a "take all" on that altar? << yep, no difference | [14:37] |
| diana_coman: | ugh; last chance: a re-login? | [14:37] |
| diana_coman: | hanbot, ^ | [14:40] |
| hanbot: | kk lessee | [14:41] |
| hanbot: | no dice ;/ | [14:43] |
| diana_coman: | put the altar down please and let me have a look | [14:44] |
| hanbot: | kk | [14:46] |
| diana_coman: | 5 min or so to look into this please | [14:46] |
| hanbot: | no rush | [14:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | hey hanbot log off for a second plox | [14:55] |
| hanbot: | i'm out | [14:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | and back in, the choke should be in your bank nao and all better. | [14:55] |
| hanbot: | o lawdy | [14:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | or all worse lol. did it just crash ? | [14:58] |
| hanbot: | yep | [14:58] |
| hanbot: | i typed /repair, no response, couldn't right-click altar, then window of server death popped | [14:58] |
| shinohai: | Congrats on your investment mircea_popescu | [14:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | shinohai lol ty. | [14:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | appetite for construction!!11 | [14:59] |
| shinohai: | Now *thats* dedication to gameplay | [14:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | eh, you know how long i've been praying for an actually fucking meaningful game to come along ? | [14:59] |
| shinohai: | https://twitter.com/SatoshiShinohai/status/802963481003773952 <<< the single reply "Strange bird" lmao | [15:00] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: Shinoa Fores on Twitter: "[Trilema] The conundrums of the contemporaneous financier https://t.co/XQYKdpZp1H #eulora" (at twitter.com) | [15:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | bringing it back again hanbot standby to fuck it again plox. | [15:01] |
| hanbot: | yessir | [15:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | poor danielpbarron, the day he shows up the server craps out. | [15:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | first time in what, 3months ? | [15:01] |
| diana_coman: | it's up, hanbot shoot | [15:02] |
| hanbot: | k | [15:03] |
| hanbot: | same behavior on feeding it a /repair | [15:04] |
| hanbot: | oh yeah. | [15:04] |
| diana_coman: | server is on, sorry for the inconvenience folks | [15:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | cool deal | [15:21] |
| DontCryRebuy: | hello all how do I go about getting an account | [17:58] |
| shinohai: | DontCryRebuy: you have a gpg key? | [18:01] |
| DontCryRebuy: | Hmm kind of expected that question... not for this moniker but I can make one | [18:03] |
| DontCryRebuy: | So that is step 1 I guess | [18:03] |
| shinohai: | Ok do that then paste public key here http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/ | [18:03] |
| shinohai: | yup step 1 | [18:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | heya DontCryRebuy | [18:23] |
| shinohai: | i wanna try crafting something simple like slag ... anyone got a couple of bp's ? | [18:25] |
| DontCryRebuy: | hello | [18:26] |
| DontCryRebuy: | in the process of making a key | [18:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | cool deal | [18:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | shinohai yeah i do how many you want and what q ? | [18:26] |
| shinohai: | what q you gots? | [18:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | 96 and 56 | [18:28] |
| shinohai: | q56 ... price? | [18:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc .56 * 677 | [18:32] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: .56 * 677 = 379.12000000000006 | [18:32] |
| shinohai: | so 38k | [18:34] |
| shinohai: | wishes Electron had bps | [18:35] |
| DontCryRebuy: | shinohai i pasted the key is this ok: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/Z9EM8/?raw=true | [18:39] |
| shinohai: | Looks good DontCryRebuy ... now /join #trilema | [18:39] |
| shinohai: | then type: !!register http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/Z9EM8/?raw=true | [18:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | alrighty a second | [18:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | shinohai you want 100 of 'em ? | [18:41] |
| shinohai: | mircea_popescu: sure | [18:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | if electron had bps people'd just buy them all. | [18:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | can trade me for your slag. | [18:42] |
| shinohai: | meh I don't have change so 40k | [18:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol i totally mischanned. <mircea_popescu> you get 101 q 59 <mircea_popescu> i mixed accidentally. | [18:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | !~calc .59 * 677 * 101 | [18:44] |
| jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: .59 * 677 * 101 = 40342.43 | [18:44] |
| shinohai: | heh nice | [18:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | DontCryRebuy http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/kYCwi/?raw=true | [18:46] |
| DontCryRebuy: | cool ty | [18:52] |
| DontCryRebuy: | Hmm my char looks like hugo chavez | [18:57] |
| shinohai: | DontCryRebuy: when you get in game I'll give you some claims, but you will need to get some coarse frangible threads to use them | [18:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | actually once you gert in game DontCryRebuy i got a job for you | [19:02] |
| DontCryRebuy: | ok, how long would it take though since im off to bed soon | [19:04] |
| DontCryRebuy: | could it be done at a later time? | [19:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | dunno it being your first time. at least 15 mions | [19:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | probably, depending how late is later. | [19:05] |
| DontCryRebuy: | oh thats ok | [19:05] |
| DontCryRebuy: | im in game | [19:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | im at 173 159, come see me | [19:05] |
| shinohai: | DontCryRebuy: come to town | [19:05] |
| shinohai: | !~eu.town | [19:05] |
| jhvh1: | Town is located @ 176, 56, 161 | [19:05] |
| shinohai: | ^ those are the coords | [19:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | yo shinohai suppose i give you 3 claims o grass and you manage this for me ? | [19:06] |
| shinohai: | 3 claims for new guy? | [19:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | yes. | [19:07] |
| shinohai: | sure | [19:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | nice. | [19:10] |
| DontCryRebuy: | is /die permadeath | [19:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | nah | [19:17] |
| shinohai: | not yet | [19:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | 1minute death | [19:17] |
| DontCryRebuy: | ok | [19:17] |
| shinohai: | DontCryRebuy: what is your /pos | [19:18] |
| DontCryRebuy: | 14.44 38.64 217.78 | [19:18] |
| shinohai: | imma come find you one sec | [19:18] |
| DontCryRebuy: | did i lose you | [19:22] |
| DontCryRebuy: | things are not rendering correctly as well | [19:22] |
| DontCryRebuy: | ill run on linux tomorrow, on a windows box now | [19:23] |
| shinohai: | trade me | [19:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | windows is kinda iffy | [19:23] |
| shinohai: | DontCryRebuy: accept trade then ill give u the rest | [19:24] |
| shinohai: | ok DontCryRebuy on the keys click them and they have coordinates. | [19:25] |
| shinohai: | Go find the claims and ill help you get started building those | [19:26] |
| DontCryRebuy: | ok | [19:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | shinohai once he delivers ima process some grass and you can buy moar threads | [19:26] |
| DontCryRebuy: | are you ok to do this tomorrow? | [19:27] |
| shinohai: | oh sweet. I got ~60 left, I gotta do some grass claims tomorrow myself | [19:27] |
| DontCryRebuy: | then I install on another non windows box | [19:27] |
| shinohai: | yes DontCryRebuy | [19:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | should be ok yea | [19:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | im back to digging up snails, will be here all night | [19:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | 2 at a fucken time. | [19:27] |
| DontCryRebuy: | ok great | [19:28] |
| shinohai: | Did I have a blast digging those up for diana_coman ... but hey free rank! | [19:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | i don't really mind so much, the bot does an ok job of handling it overning | [19:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | but it's expensive as all hell. | [19:29] |
| shinohai: | 10 bn ecu should help in that department | [19:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [19:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | i guess | [19:31] |
| hanbot: | i'm attempting to open a .cmf file (supposedly a character model component) in blender, which complains the file format isn't supported (i'm using v2.67). all this, for attempting to see how eulora wants its 3d modeled items. anyone here have a notion/pointers? | [22:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | hanbot afaik blender uses its own internal format ; .cmf/xmf caf etc are export files, for use in c code | [22:48] |
| hanbot: | looks so, yeah. seeing if i can figure out how to import/export here. | [22:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | in this case cmf caf is the crystal space format. there's a blender2crystal script that spits it out | [22:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | https://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?206017-import-crystal-to-blender << it may not even be possible to do. | [22:50] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: import crystal to blender (at blenderartists.org) | [22:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman do we actually even want to stick to this weirdo format in the first place ? | [22:50] |
| hanbot: | hm. alright, well meanwhile, if there happen to be any 3d modeled items in game that have a .blend original, i'd love to take a look if i could. | [22:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | hanbot http://www.crystalspace3d.org/docs/online/manual/Blender.html << probably the chief resource in any case. you saw it ? | [22:52] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: Crystal Space 2.1.0: 5.8 Making Levels and Models in Blender (at www.crystalspace3d.org) | [22:52] |
| hanbot: | hadn't. this looks handy, thanks | [22:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | in any case keep the complexity low. most important thing - good looking object ; OF LOW COMPLEXITY | [22:54] |
| hanbot: | kk. so much for my animated pyramide septime! | [23:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | o hey diana_coman grats on 3.04 pop :D | [23:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | ahahaha what! | [23:03] |
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