| diana_coman: | shinohai, do you want to build 2 grass ords for me? | [05:40] |
| shinohai: | gm diana_coman sure thing lemme sign in | [05:45] |
| diana_coman: | I'll be in town in ~4 min | [05:51] |
| shinohai: | kk | [05:53] |
| diana_coman: | trade shinohai | [05:53] |
| diana_coman: | good luck! | [05:53] |
| shinohai: | kk see ya in a bit | [05:53] |
| shinohai: | Nothing like an early morning swim | [05:54] |
| diana_coman: | heh | [05:54] |
| shinohai: | fuck me silly I was dragging that grass back around the shipwreck area and my table has vanished | [06:21] |
| diana_coman: | did the table go under the soil or something? | [06:24] |
| shinohai: | I have no clue ... never happened to me before :/ | [06:26] |
| diana_coman: | neah, you probably left it a bit too long and it fell off the cliff | [06:26] |
| diana_coman: | your character was respawned at the shipwreck | [06:27] |
| diana_coman: | but the table remained up the cliff | [06:27] |
| shinohai: | well fuck | [06:27] |
| diana_coman: | it's ok, I got it | [06:27] |
| diana_coman: | 8945 grass, right? | [06:27] |
| shinohai: | yup I got the rest with me | [06:28] |
| diana_coman: | myeah, not easy to recover this; I'll do it | [06:28] |
| shinohai: | Sorry bout that | [06:28] |
| diana_coman: | right, I got the grass; that's your table there | [06:32] |
| diana_coman: | was there more grass? | [06:32] |
| shinohai: | yeah ~1.8k more | [06:33] |
| diana_coman: | !~calc 0.1*1.5*1.12*60*(1896+8945) | [06:33] |
| jhvh1: | diana_coman: 0.1*1.5*1.12*60*(1896+8945) = 109277.28000000001 | [06:33] |
| diana_coman: | heh, more than 100k even | [06:33] |
| diana_coman: | thanks | [06:33] |
| shinohai: | Thanks for table recovery xD | [06:34] |
| diana_coman: | yw | [06:34] |
| shinohai: | Eulora. Never a dull moment (tm) | [06:35] |
| diana_coman: | :D | [06:35] |
| diana_coman: | need to keep an eye on it when you go towards cliffs/around edges of the world | [06:35] |
| diana_coman: | because if it gets you to the shipwreck it will be without the table | [06:36] |
| shinohai: | nb | [06:37] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, do you want the ss as high as possible or rather closer to 500? | [06:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman well the idea is, my woa bp is very high q. the items that come out of crafting i can't physically get much over 500, so im looking at this qf and know it won't be any higher no matter what ; same goes for ppb. the ss however, can be as high as what, 1 k? | [06:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | so as high as possible it's good, because it pumps the bundle q up, and i got the bp q to support this pumping. | [06:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | on the other hand, ss is a tiny part of the bundle, so its impact is only what, 0.03x or so ? therefore, if it's expensive it may well not be worth it. | [06:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | way im thinking is, get smalls with 7 threads of the best you can afford and that's that. | [06:57] |
| diana_coman: | ok; it probably won't be super high anyway given that ords give me some 235 q only so it kind of has to be as much as possible out of smalls (which give 1 single ss per) | [06:57] |
| diana_coman: | k, I'll take 500q as minimum q and see what I got | [06:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah | [06:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | the q of the woa matters a lot, because the 1k or so numina that go in the recipe are just 10k or somesuch | [06:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | ie a fifth or so | [07:00] |
| diana_coman: | yes, certainly; and I'd certainly have woa as high q as possible in no small part because at least it gives me more xp out of the rather expensive table | [07:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | aha. | [07:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | i got pretty high q numina to power it, but they're sadly low bv so what can you do. | [07:01] |
| diana_coman: | I got 200 ss at 568q; that enough mircea_popescu ? | [07:06] |
| diana_coman: | it's actually 263q from ords, but still way below what we need here; anyways, those 200 ss are available whenever convenient | [07:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | 568 would be enough yes. | [07:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | o ya, hit me up in town ? | [07:08] |
| diana_coman: | sure, 1 sec | [07:09] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, trade? | [07:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | ya | [07:11] |
| diana_coman: | !~calc 200*1165*5.68*3 | [07:11] |
| jhvh1: | diana_coman: 200*1165*5.68*3 = 3970320 | [07:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | keep teh change. | [07:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | tyvm. | [07:11] |
| diana_coman: | k, thanks | [07:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | once this dg is done ima proceed to woa! oh happy days! | [07:12] |
| diana_coman: | hooray; can't wait for the waters :D | [07:13] |
| diana_coman: | now I'll settle and write some tomes full of doubts and all that! | [07:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol seems a good juncture. | [07:16] |
| MagnusFox: | Hello! | [15:42] |
| MagnusFox: | i'm new, and i'd like to try elorum. Who can help me for registration process? | [15:42] |
| shinohai: | MagnusFox: you have a gpg key? | [15:44] |
| MagnusFox: | no, i'm reading just now | [15:44] |
| MagnusFox: | i find deedbot i've to signup there? | [15:45] |
| MagnusFox: | found* | [15:45] |
| shinohai: | ok you will need to make a keypair first | [15:45] |
| shinohai: | and then yes you can sign up with deedbot | [15:45] |
| MagnusFox: | ok, i'm trying to signup | [15:46] |
| shinohai: | kk | [15:46] |
| MagnusFox: | sorry i dont understand | [15:47] |
| MagnusFox: | please help me :X | [15:47] |
| shinohai: | What don't you understand? | [15:47] |
| MagnusFox: | steps to follow for signup | [15:47] |
| MagnusFox: | process | [15:47] |
| shinohai: | Where are you stuck? | [15:47] |
| MagnusFox: | to the beginning :D | [15:47] |
| shinohai: | xD | [15:48] |
| shinohai: | You use windows? | [15:48] |
| MagnusFox: | yes | [15:48] |
| shinohai: | ok let me PM you so we don't clutter the logs here | [15:48] |
| MagnusFox: | okkk | [15:48] |
| shinohai: | !~later tell mircea_popescu MagnusFox registered his key and needs an account when you have time por favor | [16:02] |
| jhvh1: | shinohai: The operation succeeded. | [16:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | hi MagnusFox | [16:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | gimme a second | [16:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | MagnusFox http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/7esrc/?raw=true | [16:45] |
| MagnusFox: | Hi mircea_popescu | [16:46] |
| MagnusFox: | ok, thank you! | [16:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | my pleasure | [16:47] |
| MagnusFox: | is it possible to help this community? | [16:47] |
| MagnusFox: | i want to learn more | [16:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | it's definitely possible. what do you know how to do ? | [16:48] |
| MagnusFox: | depends, what do u need? :) | [16:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, artists to do 2d/3d models/animations would be very useful. | [16:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | alternatively, if you can code there's stuff to do ; or if you can market there's stuff to do. | [16:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | right off the top of my head. | [16:50] |
| MagnusFox: | 2d/3d models with inkscape 7/10 | [16:50] |
| MagnusFox: | marketing/social/communication 10/10 | [16:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | eulora needs blender | [16:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | you ever used that ? | [16:51] |
| MagnusFox: | years ago | [16:51] |
| MagnusFox: | but i discontinued | [16:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, so do you want to pick it back up ? | [16:52] |
| MagnusFox: | what about market stuffs? | [16:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, come up with a plan. what can you do ? | [16:54] |
| MagnusFox: | e-commerce? | [16:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, eulora is free to play, so not so much commercing. and besides, it's bitcoin based, so not really much relation to legacy payment networks. | [16:56] |
| MagnusFox: | ok, what do you mean about market? | [16:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | get more people exposed to it, basically. | [16:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | preferably, people who are either artists, coders, or otherwise very smart / good with math. | [16:57] |
| shinohai: | be sure to visit shinohai 's boulder emporium for all your boulder claim needs. | [16:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [16:58] |
| MagnusFox: | lol, i need to update the client | [16:58] |
| MagnusFox: | before logging in | [16:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | not possible ? you downloaded the legacy client for some reason ? | [16:58] |
| MagnusFox: | isn't the right client? | [16:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | should be 0.1.2 | [16:59] |
| MagnusFox: | can u please send me direct linke? | [17:01] |
| MagnusFox: | link* | [17:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | to what ? | [17:01] |
| MagnusFox: | to the client | [17:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | are you on windows ? | [17:01] |
| MagnusFox: | yes | [17:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://minigame.bz/jurov/Eulora-V0_1_2-win32-full.7z | [17:02] |
| MagnusFox: | thank you | [17:02] |
| MagnusFox: | this isn't the same i've | [17:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | make sure you also have https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8328 | [17:02] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: Download Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 SP1 Redistributable Package (x86) from Official Microsoft Download Center (at www.microsoft.com) | [17:02] |
| MagnusFox: | yes | [17:03] |
| MagnusFox: | im trying to start the game. see you later. thanks for now mircea_popescu :) | [17:06] |
| diana_coman: | hello MagnusFox ; is that you Zenith in game? | [17:49] |
| shinohai: | MagnusFox: For now just come to these coords: | [17:58] |
| shinohai: | !~eu.town | [17:58] |
| jhvh1: | Town is located @ 176, 56, 161 | [17:58] |
| MagnusFox: | hello diana | [17:58] |
| MagnusFox: | diana_coman: yes im Zenyth | [17:59] |
| diana_coman: | heh, best talk here really MagnusFox as in game it's more easily lost | [17:59] |
| diana_coman: | judging by the lack of reply in main channel you prolly lost some lines there too | [18:00] |
| diana_coman: | use /tell Foxy to speak directly to Foxy from anywhere in eulora | [18:00] |
| MagnusFox: | ok, thanks | [18:01] |
| diana_coman: | 2 min to put together some stuff for you to do | [18:02] |
| diana_coman: | MagnusFox, right-click on the key will show you the coordinates of the claim that is unlocked by that key | [18:04] |
| diana_coman: | you can use /pilot x y z to help you get there | [18:04] |
| diana_coman: | go, unlock the claim, open it, put the thread I gave you inside it, equip the scroll and then build the claim | [18:05] |
| MagnusFox: | ok, ty | [18:06] |
| diana_coman: | there is this tutorial that might help you on how to do that http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/08/30/euloras-first-grade-how-to-get-a-skill-build-a-claim-make-your-own-grass-etc/ | [18:06] |
| diana_coman: | you should get some branches when you are done (the scroll and the thread will be gone) | [18:06] |
| diana_coman: | take the branches, leave the claim unlocked (you can keep the key) and bring the branches to Foxy in town | [18:06] |
| shinohai: | !~eu.firstgrade | [18:07] |
| jhvh1: | http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/08/30/euloras-first-grade-how-to-get-a-skill-build-a-claim-make-your-own-grass-etc/ | [18:07] |
| diana_coman: | ha! | [18:08] |
| shinohai: | i need to get off my lazy ass and put all those functions in a help file | [18:08] |
| diana_coman: | that's be great | [18:09] |
| diana_coman: | maybe start by adding them to the wiki on a page? | [18:09] |
| shinohai: | oh yeah i should do that, duh | [18:10] |
| MagnusFox: | i found the cointainer | [18:15] |
| diana_coman: | cool, build the claim and then bring the branches back | [18:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | hehe how goes | [18:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman home stretch on those waters! | [18:28] |
| MagnusFox: | diana_coman: are you foxy? | [18:29] |
| diana_coman: | yes MagnusFox | [18:31] |
| diana_coman: | yaaay mircea_popescu; I just started clicking a few lappy cons too | [18:32] |
| diana_coman: | !~calc 0.1*1.5*202*0.25*58 | [18:33] |
| jhvh1: | diana_coman: 0.1*1.5*202*0.25*58 = 439.3500000000001 | [18:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | very curious what q i hatch in the end | [18:33] |
| diana_coman: | congrats MagnusFox on your very first euloran coins | [18:33] |
| diana_coman: | did you /explore a bit around? | [18:33] |
| MagnusFox: | thanks :) | [18:33] |
| MagnusFox: | ok | [18:34] |
| diana_coman: | dunno if mircea_popescu still gives any starting items | [18:34] |
| MagnusFox: | im digging? | [18:34] |
| diana_coman: | aha, digging for resources | [18:34] |
| MagnusFox: | no i haven't | [18:34] |
| diana_coman: | you might want to read a bit on the wiki | [18:34] |
| MagnusFox: | ok | [18:34] |
| diana_coman: | first lappy cons got me toils of tink, bouq, mcguyver | [18:36] |
| MagnusFox: | monsters in this game? | [18:36] |
| diana_coman: | 527q o.O | [18:36] |
| diana_coman: | not yet MagnusFox ; there is a ghost only, quite harmless thing | [18:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman nice. | [18:37] |
| diana_coman: | current monsters are more in the form of hidden complexity, lol | [18:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | i got like 1k bouq toils myself. the bps for once aren't so much the poroblem | [18:37] |
| diana_coman: | aha, but I want some ampoule bps... | [18:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | ohohohoho! | [18:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | woa q 813 diana_coman ! | [18:37] |
| diana_coman: | woow | [18:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | 99.6k bv | [18:38] |
| diana_coman: | qabv ? | [18:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | ya | [18:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | will have 49 of these. | [18:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | what q toils ytou got ? | [18:39] |
| diana_coman: | 527 as mentioned above; don't quite recall what I had in storage prev | [18:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | better than mine, so. | [18:41] |
| diana_coman: | in any case, I'll gladly buy some of those woa even outside the deal if you have any | [18:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | nah i gotta get all the mites i can. | [18:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, q 527 toil bps is good - but if you can get 800-1k... even better | [18:44] |
| diana_coman: | well, need higher q shards basically | [18:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | that i dun have. of course, once i unstick this enough to mass produce waters you can maybe make em | [18:45] |
| diana_coman: | which I can get only through either oc of toils OR toils of lap I guess | [18:45] |
| diana_coman: | aha | [18:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | so what's the deal here, i'm paying 5x for the table and 10x for the bps, feed you the woa+dusts and i get the results of the click, you get teh xp ? | [18:46] |
| diana_coman: | by results of the click you mean mites+shards ? | [18:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | i do. | [18:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | mites, shards, chtulhu, whatever. | [18:50] |
| diana_coman: | tell me better: what do you want for the woa + dusts and what q of mites do you want? | [18:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, ideally i want to trade the woa for equal q bv of mites. | [18:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | but that doesn't seem available. | [18:51] |
| diana_coman: | I doubt that would be physically available at this stage really | [18:51] |
| diana_coman: | dunno what I really get with those high q toil bps; let's see, 1 woa at 100k qabv produces 21 mites; so they should be about 500 in q to account for water only | [18:57] |
| diana_coman: | hm, weirdly enough I think that might even work | [18:58] |
| diana_coman: | if at all possible I would also much rather get the woa+dusts and give you back qabv in mites; question is only if that is possible | [19:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | more likely there's oc baked into the bp | [19:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | so you put in 100k woa + say 50k dusts, take out 21 mites worth whatever, 5k each and 50k worth of lapidary numina. | [19:03] |
| diana_coman: | hm, what do you want for the dusts? maybe it works if we take the dusts out of the deal in the sense that I just buy them? | [19:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | what dusts ? | [19:06] |
| diana_coman: | that go into the toils? | [19:06] |
| diana_coman: | woa+dusts | [19:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | the library dusts ? i dun wanna sell them. why would you want to buy them ?! | [19:06] |
| diana_coman: | so that your input is only woa so that I can hope to produce enough mites to equivalent qabv so that it's settled this way? what am I missing? | [19:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | that money is not really much of a substitute in this equation - the onlty way to get dusts is via shredding and that is severely limited until i get a lot of bps made, and they include wos bps. | [19:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, if you dun wanna craft for xp, i guess i could buy toil bps ? | [19:09] |
| diana_coman: | wait, so it's both dusts and woa that are limited? | [19:09] |
| diana_coman: | ugh | [19:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, how do you get dusts, you know ? gotta shred. how do you shred ? | [19:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | for high q dusts you need to burn A LOT of high q bps. | [19:10] |
| diana_coman: | whatever then; I certainly prefer to get the 5x table 10x bp and xp rather than just sell the bps | [19:10] |
| diana_coman: | myeah, I have some dusts too, but kind of not keen on using them | [19:10] |
| diana_coman: | ok, then there is no other option in fact | [19:10] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu> so what's the deal here, i'm paying 5x for the table and 10x for the bps, feed you the woa+dusts and i get the results of the click, you get teh xp ? <- fine. | [19:10] |
| hanbot: | woot found my first remarkable (boulders, but owell) | [19:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | pretty much. i am however willing to sell you back the shards if any at teh usual 250\% | [19:10] |
| diana_coman: | congrats hanbot | [19:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | oooo wd hanbot | [19:10] |
| hanbot: | :D | [19:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | haha here she is, 1.36mn in the top | [19:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | totally ruining the mircea-foxy month. | [19:11] |
| shinohai: | (18:28:46) >Grenadine has got 0.010 BTC worth of Remarkable Boulder Exploration Marker and assorted loot while exploring. Congratulations! | [20:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | nice | [20:39] |
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