shinohai: | gm diana_coman | [09:08] |
diana_coman: | hi shinohai | [09:09] |
diana_coman: | ready to settle now that grass ? | [09:09] |
shinohai: | btw do I need to drop this table for you? | [09:09] |
shinohai: | yeah sure, I guess I need to get out of storage for you? | [09:09] |
diana_coman: | yes | [09:10] |
diana_coman: | use the table to get all the grass out of storage | [09:10] |
shinohai: | kk | [09:10] |
diana_coman: | 1. table down; 2. get grass out of storage 3. move from inventory to table (inside!) 4. repeat from 2 until done 5. trade me | [09:10] |
diana_coman: | and you can then keep the table | [09:11] |
shinohai: | Table just floats there lol | [09:11] |
diana_coman: | yeah, it's ok, lol | [09:11] |
diana_coman: | better high up in the air than buried deep | [09:12] |
shinohai: | got all teh grass and initiated trade diana_coman | [09:20] |
shinohai: | Darn it one sec, gotta get my table menu back up | [09:20] |
diana_coman: | take all from table (3rd button from bottom) | [09:20] |
diana_coman: | aha | [09:21] |
diana_coman: | you can get the table menu while in trade | [09:21] |
shinohai: | ok tried again | [09:22] |
diana_coman: | ctrl-click on a pile of stuff takes the whole pile | [09:25] |
diana_coman: | just "take all" from table best | [09:26] |
diana_coman: | so it makes it into one single pile in your inv | [09:26] |
diana_coman: | and then move that to the trading window | [09:26] |
shinohai: | it didnt let me :/ | [09:28] |
diana_coman: | what did it say? | [09:28] |
shinohai: | im doing sumthing wrong dunno lol | [09:28] |
diana_coman: | did you press the "take all" button on the left-hand side of the table? | [09:28] |
diana_coman: | 5th from top | [09:28] |
shinohai: | I did, nothing happens | [09:29] |
shinohai: | i accidently took it out and stacked it all lol | [09:29] |
diana_coman: | well, that's fine, that's what was supposed to happen, lol | [09:29] |
diana_coman: | just move it to the trading window now | [09:29] |
diana_coman: | possibly take first back the grass you already put in there | [09:29] |
diana_coman: | as that might confuse it | [09:30] |
shinohai: | "You cannot mive an item being exchanged? | [09:30] |
diana_coman: | aha, that's the trouble | [09:30] |
diana_coman: | take back the grass from the trade window | [09:30] |
shinohai: | I got like 582 in there | [09:30] |
mircea_popescu: | watches and lulz. | [09:30] |
diana_coman: | yeah, take it back, lol | [09:30] |
diana_coman: | ctrl-click on it and move to inventory | [09:30] |
shinohai: | its in | [09:30] |
diana_coman: | cool, now move all grass from inv to trade window | [09:30] |
diana_coman: | good; how much grass was there in total shinohai ? | [09:32] |
diana_coman: | I think you already gave me some of it, right? | [09:32] |
diana_coman: | I was holding the trade shinohai , lol | [09:33] |
diana_coman: | wanted to give you the money too | [09:33] |
shinohai: | lol | [09:33] |
shinohai: | Well this has been an adventure | [09:33] |
diana_coman: | !~calc 0.1*60*0.1*8526 | [09:34] |
jhvh1: | diana_coman: 0.1*60*0.1*8526 = 5115.6 | [09:34] |
diana_coman: | that's your share there shinohai ^ accept trade | [09:35] |
mircea_popescu: | so i'm overpaying by about 10000\% ? | [09:35] |
diana_coman: | guess mircea_popescu's half bitcent per ord is a VERY good deal | [09:35] |
shinohai: | I dont see anything | [09:35] |
mircea_popescu: | drink less!!11 :D | [09:36] |
diana_coman: | do you see it now shinohai ? | [09:36] |
shinohai: | now yeah lol | [09:36] |
diana_coman: | there, well done and keep the table | [09:36] |
diana_coman: | I gather you'll need it a lot :) | [09:36] |
shinohai: | ty | [09:36] |
shinohai: | finally! | [09:36] |
diana_coman: | heh | [09:36] |
mircea_popescu: | a there you go, he got a table, that's at least another 5k | [09:36] |
shinohai: | It's amazing how addicted I am to this shit already, never played any games like this in my life. | [09:37] |
diana_coman: | heh, cool stuff | [09:38] |
diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, in any case I don't really aim to match your offer on this sort of tasks, at least not atm | [09:39] |
mircea_popescu: | yeah, makes sense | [09:40] |
shinohai: | diana_coman wants slaves :P | [09:40] |
diana_coman: | I mean those more as a way for noobs to learn the ropes and then get going on their own | [09:40] |
diana_coman: | so hopefully they see/figure out a way to make more money on their own rather than relying on these jobs for that | [09:40] |
shinohai: | I know, I really do thank you for having patience with me thus far | [09:40] |
mircea_popescu: | though on the other side, a noob is resonably to be expected to get about 50-100k bv from an ord, and i dunno that i'd pay as low as 5k. but anyway. | [09:40] |
mircea_popescu: | i guess it mostly depends on how self-contained they are. | [09:41] |
diana_coman: | it was calculated as 10\% | [09:41] |
diana_coman: | so 10\% of whatever it is from my ord with everything provided | [09:41] |
shinohai: | ok now, where do I go to get bundles again? | [09:41] |
diana_coman: | buy them from spirover shinohai | [09:41] |
shinohai: | kk | [09:41] |
diana_coman: | mircea_popescu> though on the other side, a noob is resonably to be expected to get about 50-100k bv from an ord, and i dunno that i'd pay as low as 5k. but anyway. <- and wait, what do you mean a noob is expected to get that? | [09:42] |
diana_coman: | what, I get a different bv now? | [09:42] |
diana_coman: | because not noob, or how does this go? | [09:42] |
mircea_popescu: | diana_coman i often get LESS bv than what i put in. eg, remarkable with ~5mn bundle, got 2mn grass. | [09:43] |
mircea_popescu: | i don't recall a noob going into an ord and coming back with ie, 10k bv | [09:43] |
diana_coman: | and what tells you that a noob would have gotten more than 2mn bv grass from *same* remark? | [09:43] |
diana_coman: | I don't see the sense in what you say there | [09:44] |
mircea_popescu: | the fact that i never saw a noob come back with less than 50k from an ord | [09:44] |
mircea_popescu: | whereas i often do | [09:44] |
diana_coman: | really? | [09:44] |
diana_coman: | hm | [09:44] |
mircea_popescu: | in fact i usually hit t about i dunno, 20-30k for an ord. | [09:44] |
mircea_popescu: | well yes really. i had dozens mined by noobs these days yes ? | [09:44] |
diana_coman: | ah, wait | [09:44] |
diana_coman: | what q do you get? | [09:44] |
mircea_popescu: | q adjusted rthough | [09:44] |
diana_coman: | so let me get this straight: calculating q adjusted you get *lower* bv overall than noob does, correct? | [09:45] |
mircea_popescu: | not overall ; but in many instances. | [09:45] |
mircea_popescu: | i've also not seen noob get ie 500k ; which happens to me now and again | [09:45] |
diana_coman: | all of this on *your* ords, hm | [09:45] |
mircea_popescu: | yup. and made same way. | [09:46] |
diana_coman: | thing is: strictly speaking I have in fact kind of 0 incentive to give ords to noobs | [09:46] |
diana_coman: | because 1. I lose the xp and they don't even use it in most cases | [09:46] |
mircea_popescu: | well yes, strictly speaking everyone got 0 incentive to trade ; eulora dun force you. you can do everything youtself. | [09:46] |
diana_coman: | 2. I CAN underbuild it if I am after low q | [09:46] |
diana_coman: | nope, I don't mean that, lol | [09:47] |
mircea_popescu: | anyway. myself, i find it rther convenient. but i can see the opposing case. | [09:47] |
diana_coman: | I mean: what is exactly the actual gain for me in there? from what you say I'd gather it's a kind of guaranteed middle-ground of return | [09:47] |
diana_coman: | which I am not even sure of at this stage tbh | [09:47] |
mircea_popescu: | well yes, seems to me it's more predictable : you'll get 9 q and about 50k or so in goods. | [09:48] |
diana_coman: | oh, the convenience of not running around to build them, I can see that, yes | [09:48] |
mircea_popescu: | surely. | [09:48] |
diana_coman: | I suppose it might be that I don't yet get enough ords to prefer to outsource them rather than build them | [10:08] |
shinohai: | http://i.imgur.com/nk2lcdV.jpg | [10:12] |
diana_coman: | ahahaha; what's the trouble shinohai ? | [10:13] |
mircea_popescu: | lmao | [10:15] |
diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, any cft available? | [10:16] |
shinohai: | I gotta go back and figure out how to trade with spirover | [10:16] |
shinohai: | makes more coffee | [10:16] |
diana_coman: | right click on spirover and trade button? | [10:16] |
mircea_popescu: | diana_coman iirc i had a batch with your name on it ; but it's in storage and im mining ;/ | [10:17] |
mircea_popescu: | are you out ? | [10:17] |
shinohai: | so just gibe coins and he dispenses bundles? | [10:17] |
diana_coman: | aha; it's ok, it can wait a few hours | [10:17] |
diana_coman: | neah, choose the item you want shinohai | [10:17] |
diana_coman: | click on button as to 1 , x or all | [10:18] |
diana_coman: | and he'll take the money :D | [10:18] |
mircea_popescu: | can't you feel electron'shand in your pocket ? :D | [10:18] |
shinohai: | lol | [10:18] |
diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, best in about 5 hours from now; I'll have more grass too if you still want it | [10:18] |
mircea_popescu: | kk. i'll have to look but possibru. | [10:19] |
shinohai: | btw diana_coman do I need to return your claim key? | [10:32] |
shinohai: | while I'm trying to figure out what I'm supposed to buy here lol | [10:33] |
mircea_popescu: | lol did you find the tab ? | [10:40] |
shinohai: | I found tab with items, do I buy a corresponding bundle for each enumeration I have? | [10:47] |
mircea_popescu: | pretty much | [11:06] |
mircea_popescu: | but not all at the same time as they are somewhat heavy | [11:06] |
kunickis: | Hey all. | [11:09] |
kunickis: | Sorry that didnt play a little. | [11:09] |
kunickis: | Didnt have time need to work heh. | [11:09] |
kunickis: | But now am free hehe. | [11:10] |
shinohai: | o/ kunickis | [11:10] |
kunickis: | m? | [11:10] |
mircea_popescu: | heya. | [11:12] |
mircea_popescu: | what do you work ? | [11:12] |
kunickis: | hey mircea. :) | [11:12] |
kunickis: | in real life haha. | [11:12] |
mircea_popescu: | yeah but what | [11:12] |
kunickis: | in shop | [11:12] |
mircea_popescu: | ah | [11:12] |
kunickis: | need to earn money to pay for bills hehe. | [11:13] |
mircea_popescu: | honestly i thought you lived with parents. | [11:13] |
kunickis: | 15k branch left to move to city hehe. | [11:14] |
kunickis: | Nah. | [11:14] |
kunickis: | if i will live with parents then dont need to go to work haha. :D | [11:15] |
kunickis: | for now i think to make some website releated to steam keys... maybe will earn some revenue from ads haha so dont need to go to work. hehe. | [11:18] |
kunickis: | :D | [11:18] |
mircea_popescu: | seems dubious enough. | [11:20] |
kunickis: | found that one of this sites earning ~70$ day. it will be nice if I make ~20$ day so i can pay for bills haha. | [11:21] |
kunickis: | dubious? what thats mean? :D | [11:21] |
shinohai: | rofl | [11:21] |
kunickis: | -,- | [11:22] |
kunickis: | what funny in there? | [11:22] |
shinohai: | Nothing, notions of passive income inspire mirth in me. | [11:22] |
kunickis: | ;D | [11:24] |
kunickis: | am just looking to earn some extra profit hehe. | [11:26] |
mircea_popescu: | what do you do by trade ? | [11:29] |
kunickis: | you to me? | [11:30] |
mircea_popescu: | no i mean, what did you go for school for ? | [11:31] |
mircea_popescu: | like, plumber, or nurse, or airplane pilot or what ? | [11:32] |
kunickis: | automechanic... but dont like that anymore. | [11:32] |
mircea_popescu: | why not ? earns well enough no ? | [11:32] |
kunickis: | yh dont know why dont like it now hehe | [11:33] |
kunickis: | anyway in my country cant earn good money | [11:33] |
kunickis: | only if you are president haha | [11:33] |
mircea_popescu: | which was this, lithuania ? | [11:33] |
kunickis: | latvia | [11:34] |
mircea_popescu: | ah. why not ? | [11:34] |
kunickis: | minimal montlhy income 300euros | [11:34] |
kunickis: | For house 150euro/month for bills ~100euros | [11:34] |
kunickis: | and 50euros only for food/month | [11:34] |
kunickis: | haha | [11:34] |
mircea_popescu: | lol. | [11:35] |
mircea_popescu: | what kind of house do you get for 150 euro / month ? | [11:35] |
kunickis: | dont know how its on english | [11:35] |
kunickis: | flat or apartment... dont know haha :D | [11:35] |
mircea_popescu: | look online, the same usual scams. "1700 euro! Romantic alcove bedroom with balcony!" | [11:37] |
kunickis: | am living at this type of house http://www.liepajniekiem.lv/uploads/thumbnails/original/articles/2008/05/20130223-0227-17405-51280d0fdf690-kapec-paradnieces-dzivoklis-pieskirts-galvenajai-gramatvedei.jpg.jpg | [11:37] |
mircea_popescu: | https://www.erasmusinn.com/accommodation/studio-by-gallery-riga-1940 << 400 euro. studio. lmao. | [11:37] |
lobbesbot: | Title: Studio by Gallery Riga in Riga, Latvia ErasmusInn (at www.erasmusinn.com) | [11:37] |
shinohai: | The balcony looks down into an alley, where you get a nice view of all the neighborhood dumpsters ..... | [11:37] |
kunickis: | In Riga is too expensive to live | [11:38] |
kunickis: | its capital city | [11:38] |
mircea_popescu: | looks ~exactly as romania. | [11:38] |
mircea_popescu: | ahahaha. spacious 3 bedroom apartment, valdemara, 2600 eur | [11:38] |
kunickis: | if work in riga then can earn some good money but am not living in capital city haha | [11:39] |
mircea_popescu: | cozy house in dbulti, 5 rooms, 200sqm, 2250 euro | [11:39] |
kunickis: | its why i looking to earn money internet. | [11:39] |
kunickis: | to get some extra money | [11:39] |
mircea_popescu: | yeah, i think i follow that part. | [11:43] |
kunickis: | didnt understand what you mean with that hehe, | [11:44] |
kunickis: | will turn google translate on haha | [11:44] |
kunickis: | too bad translator.. anyway didnt understand haha | [11:45] |
DianaComan: | ugh, kunickis seriously, vilnius is 4 hours away on bus; quite sure prices at the border are cheaper | [11:48] |
DianaComan: | so why the hell pay that kind of rent on a flat in Riga? | [11:48] |
DianaComan: | shinohai, claims can be built only once | [11:49] |
DianaComan: | so feel free to either use the claim for storage if you need it or leave it unlocked and chuck/keep key | [11:49] |
DianaComan: | (key should become on little bit of nothing when the claim vanishes) | [11:49] |
kunickis: | in riga can live only people that have a lot of money haha | [11:50] |
kunickis: | in this country salary is low but things to buy is expensive.. haha | [11:51] |
mircea_popescu: | i think everyone says that. | [11:51] |
mircea_popescu: | !~tr en to la "i think everyone says that." | [11:51] |
jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: Error: "tr" is not a valid command. | [11:51] |
mircea_popescu: | !~translate en to la "i think everyone says that." | [11:51] |
jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: et omnis qui dicit mihi videtur. | [11:51] |
kunickis: | not la | [11:51] |
kunickis: | lv* | [11:51] |
mircea_popescu: | !~translate en to lv "i think everyone says that." | [11:51] |
jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: Es domÄ\u0081ju, ka visi saka, ka. | [11:51] |
kunickis: | not right translation | [11:52] |
kunickis: | it need to be | [11:52] |
mircea_popescu: | i bet. | [11:52] |
kunickis: | Es domÄ\u0081ju ka visi tÄ\u0081 saka. | [11:52] |
kunickis: | haha :D | [11:52] |
mircea_popescu: | !~translate lv to en Es domÄ\u0081ju ka visi tÄ\u0081 saka. | [11:52] |
jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: I think that says it all. | [11:52] |
mircea_popescu: | lol! no, that's not right either. | [11:52] |
kunickis: | haha said. ;D | [11:52] |
kunickis: | i] | [11:52] |
kunickis: | oo | [11:52] |
kunickis: | dont know why than | [11:52] |
kunickis: | :D | [11:52] |
mircea_popescu: | !~tr en to la "i think they all say same." | [11:52] |
jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: Error: "tr" is not a valid command. | [11:52] |
mircea_popescu: | !~translate en to lv "i think they all say same." | [11:53] |
jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: Es domÄ\u0081ju, ka viÅ\u0086i visi saka pats. | [11:53] |
kunickis: | Es domÄ\u0081ju, ka viÅ\u0086i visi saka vienÄ\u0081di | [11:53] |
kunickis: | not "pats" but "vienÄ\u0081di" | [11:53] |
kunickis: | :D | [11:53] |
mircea_popescu: | !~translate lv to en Es domÄ\u0081ju, ka viÅ\u0086i visi saka vienÄ\u0081di | [11:53] |
jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: I think they all say the same | [11:53] |
mircea_popescu: | yeah! | [11:53] |
kunickis: | haha :D | [11:53] |
kunickis: | "pats" mean myself or smthing like it haha | [11:55] |
kunickis: | "vienÄ\u0081di" the same | [11:55] |
kunickis: | bad translator. :D | [11:55] |
kunickis: | When i was in school in English i got better mark then Latvian haha:D | [11:56] |
DianaComan: | hm, is the logger for this channel dead? | [11:58] |
DianaComan: | uhm, no, nm | [11:58] |
kunickis: | mircea | [12:04] |
kunickis: | do you get any profit from this game? | [12:04] |
kunickis: | is there any new people playn? | [12:15] |
mircea_popescu: | well shinohai started playing seriously i saw | [12:34] |
mircea_popescu: | kunickis what do you mean profit ? try /show top it'll see you what people loot | [12:34] |
mircea_popescu: | lol you know how to read logs kunickis ? | [12:37] |
kunickis: | which lohs? | [12:38] |
kunickis: | logs* | [12:38] |
kunickis: | chat logs? | [12:38] |
mircea_popescu: | yeah | [12:39] |
kunickis: | logs.minigame.bz know. ;d | [12:40] |
mircea_popescu: | cool | [12:43] |
kunickis: | why asking? :d | [12:44] |
mircea_popescu: | to know if you can read my answer to your question above. | [12:45] |
kunickis: | Ohh. I think profit from this game.. You are giving away bitcoins but are you getting something back? | [12:46] |
DianaComan: | kunickis, he answered you but you disconnected; hence read the logs to read his answer | [12:49] |
kunickis: | There is no answer in logs. | [12:50] |
kunickis: | mircea_popescu kunickis what do you mean profit ? try /show top it'll see you what people loot | [12:51] |
kunickis: | It was last after I disconnect | [12:52] |
mircea_popescu: | aha | [12:54] |
kunickis: | m? | [12:55] |
diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, you around for the cft? | [14:40] |
mircea_popescu: | alrighty ill come over. | [14:42] |
diana_coman: | I'm dragging a table to town too | [14:43] |
mircea_popescu: | must say bot has been supremely well behaved of late. | [14:43] |
diana_coman: | pats bot | [14:43] |
diana_coman: | it so happens I stumbled again upon this: http://logs.minigame.bz/2015-08-07.log.html#t13:22:09 | [14:47] |
lobbesbot: | Title: #Eulora log for Friday, 2015-08-07 (at logs.minigame.bz) | [14:47] |
mircea_popescu: | lol here she comes | [14:51] |
mircea_popescu: | ahahaha happy 1year birthday foxybot! | [14:52] |
mircea_popescu: | holy shit it came a long way | [14:52] |
mircea_popescu: | ready ? | [14:55] |
mircea_popescu: | diana_coman | [14:55] |
mircea_popescu: | !~3064 * 60 * 1.56 * 1.8 | [14:56] |
jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: Error: "3064" is not a valid command. | [14:56] |
mircea_popescu: | oops | [14:56] |
mircea_popescu: | !~calc 3064 * 180 * 1.56 * 1.8 | [14:56] |
jhvh1: | mircea_popescu: 3064 * 180 * 1.56 * 1.8 = 1548668.1600000001 | [14:56] |
mircea_popescu: | diana_coman sadly im all out of low grass. | [14:56] |
diana_coman: | o.o | [14:56] |
mircea_popescu: | but ill letcha know. | [14:57] |
diana_coman: | kk, lemme see then the coins, lol | [14:57] |
mircea_popescu: | danke | [14:58] |
diana_coman: | lol, this is all I have | [14:58] |
diana_coman: | thanks | [14:58] |
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