#eulora Logs for 17 Sep 2016



September 17th, 2016 by Diana Coman
shinohai: gm diana_coman [09:08]
diana_coman: hi shinohai [09:09]
diana_coman: ready to settle now that grass ? [09:09]
shinohai: btw do I need to drop this table for you? [09:09]
shinohai: yeah sure, I guess I need to get out of storage for you? [09:09]
diana_coman: yes [09:10]
diana_coman: use the table to get all the grass out of storage [09:10]
shinohai: kk [09:10]
diana_coman: 1. table down; 2. get grass out of storage 3. move from inventory to table (inside!) 4. repeat from 2 until done 5. trade me [09:10]
diana_coman: and you can then keep the table [09:11]
shinohai: Table just floats there lol [09:11]
diana_coman: yeah, it's ok, lol [09:11]
diana_coman: better high up in the air than buried deep [09:12]
shinohai: got all teh grass and initiated trade diana_coman [09:20]
shinohai: Darn it one sec, gotta get my table menu back up [09:20]
diana_coman: take all from table (3rd button from bottom) [09:20]
diana_coman: aha [09:21]
diana_coman: you can get the table menu while in trade [09:21]
shinohai: ok tried again [09:22]
diana_coman: ctrl-click on a pile of stuff takes the whole pile [09:25]
diana_coman: just "take all" from table best [09:26]
diana_coman: so it makes it into one single pile in your inv [09:26]
diana_coman: and then move that to the trading window [09:26]
shinohai: it didnt let me :/ [09:28]
diana_coman: what did it say? [09:28]
shinohai: im doing sumthing wrong dunno lol [09:28]
diana_coman: did you press the "take all" button on the left-hand side of the table? [09:28]
diana_coman: 5th from top [09:28]
shinohai: I did, nothing happens [09:29]
shinohai: i accidently took it out and stacked it all lol [09:29]
diana_coman: well, that's fine, that's what was supposed to happen, lol [09:29]
diana_coman: just move it to the trading window now [09:29]
diana_coman: possibly take first back the grass you already put in there [09:29]
diana_coman: as that might confuse it [09:30]
shinohai: "You cannot mive an item being exchanged? [09:30]
diana_coman: aha, that's the trouble [09:30]
diana_coman: take back the grass from the trade window [09:30]
shinohai: I got like 582 in there [09:30]
mircea_popescu: watches and lulz. [09:30]
diana_coman: yeah, take it back, lol [09:30]
diana_coman: ctrl-click on it and move to inventory [09:30]
shinohai: its in [09:30]
diana_coman: cool, now move all grass from inv to trade window [09:30]
diana_coman: good; how much grass was there in total shinohai ? [09:32]
diana_coman: I think you already gave me some of it, right? [09:32]
diana_coman: I was holding the trade shinohai , lol [09:33]
diana_coman: wanted to give you the money too [09:33]
shinohai: lol [09:33]
shinohai: Well this has been an adventure [09:33]
diana_coman: !~calc 0.1*60*0.1*8526 [09:34]
jhvh1: diana_coman: 0.1*60*0.1*8526 = 5115.6 [09:34]
diana_coman: that's your share there shinohai ^ accept trade [09:35]
mircea_popescu: so i'm overpaying by about 10000\% ? [09:35]
diana_coman: guess mircea_popescu's half bitcent per ord is a VERY good deal [09:35]
shinohai: I dont see anything [09:35]
mircea_popescu: drink less!!11 :D [09:36]
diana_coman: do you see it now shinohai ? [09:36]
shinohai: now yeah lol [09:36]
diana_coman: there, well done and keep the table [09:36]
diana_coman: I gather you'll need it a lot :) [09:36]
shinohai: ty [09:36]
shinohai: finally! [09:36]
diana_coman: heh [09:36]
mircea_popescu: a there you go, he got a table, that's at least another 5k [09:36]
shinohai: It's amazing how addicted I am to this shit already, never played any games like this in my life. [09:37]
diana_coman: heh, cool stuff [09:38]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, in any case I don't really aim to match your offer on this sort of tasks, at least not atm [09:39]
mircea_popescu: yeah, makes sense [09:40]
shinohai: diana_coman wants slaves :P [09:40]
diana_coman: I mean those more as a way for noobs to learn the ropes and then get going on their own [09:40]
diana_coman: so hopefully they see/figure out a way to make more money on their own rather than relying on these jobs for that [09:40]
shinohai: I know, I really do thank you for having patience with me thus far [09:40]
mircea_popescu: though on the other side, a noob is resonably to be expected to get about 50-100k bv from an ord, and i dunno that i'd pay as low as 5k. but anyway. [09:40]
mircea_popescu: i guess it mostly depends on how self-contained they are. [09:41]
diana_coman: it was calculated as 10\% [09:41]
diana_coman: so 10\% of whatever it is from my ord with everything provided [09:41]
shinohai: ok now, where do I go to get bundles again? [09:41]
diana_coman: buy them from spirover shinohai [09:41]
shinohai: kk [09:41]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu> though on the other side, a noob is resonably to be expected to get about 50-100k bv from an ord, and i dunno that i'd pay as low as 5k. but anyway. <- and wait, what do you mean a noob is expected to get that? [09:42]
diana_coman: what, I get a different bv now? [09:42]
diana_coman: because not noob, or how does this go? [09:42]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i often get LESS bv than what i put in. eg, remarkable with ~5mn bundle, got 2mn grass. [09:43]
mircea_popescu: i don't recall a noob going into an ord and coming back with ie, 10k bv [09:43]
diana_coman: and what tells you that a noob would have gotten more than 2mn bv grass from *same* remark? [09:43]
diana_coman: I don't see the sense in what you say there [09:44]
mircea_popescu: the fact that i never saw a noob come back with less than 50k from an ord [09:44]
mircea_popescu: whereas i often do [09:44]
diana_coman: really? [09:44]
diana_coman: hm [09:44]
mircea_popescu: in fact i usually hit t about i dunno, 20-30k for an ord. [09:44]
mircea_popescu: well yes really. i had dozens mined by noobs these days yes ? [09:44]
diana_coman: ah, wait [09:44]
diana_coman: what q do you get? [09:44]
mircea_popescu: q adjusted rthough [09:44]
diana_coman: so let me get this straight: calculating q adjusted you get *lower* bv overall than noob does, correct? [09:45]
mircea_popescu: not overall ; but in many instances. [09:45]
mircea_popescu: i've also not seen noob get ie 500k ; which happens to me now and again [09:45]
diana_coman: all of this on *your* ords, hm [09:45]
mircea_popescu: yup. and made same way. [09:46]
diana_coman: thing is: strictly speaking I have in fact kind of 0 incentive to give ords to noobs [09:46]
diana_coman: because 1. I lose the xp and they don't even use it in most cases [09:46]
mircea_popescu: well yes, strictly speaking everyone got 0 incentive to trade ; eulora dun force you. you can do everything youtself. [09:46]
diana_coman: 2. I CAN underbuild it if I am after low q [09:46]
diana_coman: nope, I don't mean that, lol [09:47]
mircea_popescu: anyway. myself, i find it rther convenient. but i can see the opposing case. [09:47]
diana_coman: I mean: what is exactly the actual gain for me in there? from what you say I'd gather it's a kind of guaranteed middle-ground of return [09:47]
diana_coman: which I am not even sure of at this stage tbh [09:47]
mircea_popescu: well yes, seems to me it's more predictable : you'll get 9 q and about 50k or so in goods. [09:48]
diana_coman: oh, the convenience of not running around to build them, I can see that, yes [09:48]
mircea_popescu: surely. [09:48]
diana_coman: I suppose it might be that I don't yet get enough ords to prefer to outsource them rather than build them [10:08]
shinohai: http://i.imgur.com/nk2lcdV.jpg [10:12]
diana_coman: ahahaha; what's the trouble shinohai ? [10:13]
mircea_popescu: lmao [10:15]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, any cft available? [10:16]
shinohai: I gotta go back and figure out how to trade with spirover [10:16]
shinohai: makes more coffee [10:16]
diana_coman: right click on spirover and trade button? [10:16]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman iirc i had a batch with your name on it ; but it's in storage and im mining ;/ [10:17]
mircea_popescu: are you out ? [10:17]
shinohai: so just gibe coins and he dispenses bundles? [10:17]
diana_coman: aha; it's ok, it can wait a few hours [10:17]
diana_coman: neah, choose the item you want shinohai [10:17]
diana_coman: click on button as to 1 , x or all [10:18]
diana_coman: and he'll take the money :D [10:18]
mircea_popescu: can't you feel electron'shand in your pocket ? :D [10:18]
shinohai: lol [10:18]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, best in about 5 hours from now; I'll have more grass too if you still want it [10:18]
mircea_popescu: kk. i'll have to look but possibru. [10:19]
shinohai: btw diana_coman do I need to return your claim key? [10:32]
shinohai: while I'm trying to figure out what I'm supposed to buy here lol [10:33]
mircea_popescu: lol did you find the tab ? [10:40]
shinohai: I found tab with items, do I buy a corresponding bundle for each enumeration I have? [10:47]
mircea_popescu: pretty much [11:06]
mircea_popescu: but not all at the same time as they are somewhat heavy [11:06]
kunickis: Hey all. [11:09]
kunickis: Sorry that didnt play a little. [11:09]
kunickis: Didnt have time need to work heh. [11:09]
kunickis: But now am free hehe. [11:10]
shinohai: o/ kunickis [11:10]
kunickis: m? [11:10]
mircea_popescu: heya. [11:12]
mircea_popescu: what do you work ? [11:12]
kunickis: hey mircea. :) [11:12]
kunickis: in real life haha. [11:12]
mircea_popescu: yeah but what [11:12]
kunickis: in shop [11:12]
mircea_popescu: ah [11:12]
kunickis: need to earn money to pay for bills hehe. [11:13]
mircea_popescu: honestly i thought you lived with parents. [11:13]
kunickis: 15k branch left to move to city hehe. [11:14]
kunickis: Nah. [11:14]
kunickis: if i will live with parents then dont need to go to work haha. :D [11:15]
kunickis: for now i think to make some website releated to steam keys... maybe will earn some revenue from ads haha so dont need to go to work. hehe. [11:18]
kunickis: :D [11:18]
mircea_popescu: seems dubious enough. [11:20]
kunickis: found that one of this sites earning ~70$ day. it will be nice if I make ~20$ day so i can pay for bills haha. [11:21]
kunickis: dubious? what thats mean? :D [11:21]
shinohai: rofl [11:21]
kunickis: -,- [11:22]
kunickis: what funny in there? [11:22]
shinohai: Nothing, notions of passive income inspire mirth in me. [11:22]
kunickis: ;D [11:24]
kunickis: am just looking to earn some extra profit hehe. [11:26]
mircea_popescu: what do you do by trade ? [11:29]
kunickis: you to me? [11:30]
mircea_popescu: no i mean, what did you go for school for ? [11:31]
mircea_popescu: like, plumber, or nurse, or airplane pilot or what ? [11:32]
kunickis: automechanic... but dont like that anymore. [11:32]
mircea_popescu: why not ? earns well enough no ? [11:32]
kunickis: yh dont know why dont like it now hehe [11:33]
kunickis: anyway in my country cant earn good money [11:33]
kunickis: only if you are president haha [11:33]
mircea_popescu: which was this, lithuania ? [11:33]
kunickis: latvia [11:34]
mircea_popescu: ah. why not ? [11:34]
kunickis: minimal montlhy income 300euros [11:34]
kunickis: For house 150euro/month for bills ~100euros [11:34]
kunickis: and 50euros only for food/month [11:34]
kunickis: haha [11:34]
mircea_popescu: lol. [11:35]
mircea_popescu: what kind of house do you get for 150 euro / month ? [11:35]
kunickis: dont know how its on english [11:35]
kunickis: flat or apartment... dont know haha :D [11:35]
mircea_popescu: look online, the same usual scams. "1700 euro! Romantic alcove bedroom with balcony!" [11:37]
kunickis: am living at this type of house http://www.liepajniekiem.lv/uploads/thumbnails/original/articles/2008/05/20130223-0227-17405-51280d0fdf690-kapec-paradnieces-dzivoklis-pieskirts-galvenajai-gramatvedei.jpg.jpg [11:37]
mircea_popescu: https://www.erasmusinn.com/accommodation/studio-by-gallery-riga-1940 << 400 euro. studio. lmao. [11:37]
lobbesbot: Title: Studio by Gallery Riga in Riga, Latvia ErasmusInn (at www.erasmusinn.com) [11:37]
shinohai: The balcony looks down into an alley, where you get a nice view of all the neighborhood dumpsters ..... [11:37]
kunickis: In Riga is too expensive to live [11:38]
kunickis: its capital city [11:38]
mircea_popescu: looks ~exactly as romania. [11:38]
mircea_popescu: ahahaha. spacious 3 bedroom apartment, valdemara, 2600 eur [11:38]
kunickis: if work in riga then can earn some good money but am not living in capital city haha [11:39]
mircea_popescu: cozy house in dbulti, 5 rooms, 200sqm, 2250 euro [11:39]
kunickis: its why i looking to earn money internet. [11:39]
kunickis: to get some extra money [11:39]
mircea_popescu: yeah, i think i follow that part. [11:43]
kunickis: didnt understand what you mean with that hehe, [11:44]
kunickis: will turn google translate on haha [11:44]
kunickis: too bad translator.. anyway didnt understand haha [11:45]
DianaComan: ugh, kunickis seriously, vilnius is 4 hours away on bus; quite sure prices at the border are cheaper [11:48]
DianaComan: so why the hell pay that kind of rent on a flat in Riga? [11:48]
DianaComan: shinohai, claims can be built only once [11:49]
DianaComan: so feel free to either use the claim for storage if you need it or leave it unlocked and chuck/keep key [11:49]
DianaComan: (key should become on little bit of nothing when the claim vanishes) [11:49]
kunickis: in riga can live only people that have a lot of money haha [11:50]
kunickis: in this country salary is low but things to buy is expensive.. haha [11:51]
mircea_popescu: i think everyone says that. [11:51]
mircea_popescu: !~tr en to la "i think everyone says that." [11:51]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Error: "tr" is not a valid command. [11:51]
mircea_popescu: !~translate en to la "i think everyone says that." [11:51]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: et omnis qui dicit mihi videtur. [11:51]
kunickis: not la [11:51]
kunickis: lv* [11:51]
mircea_popescu: !~translate en to lv "i think everyone says that." [11:51]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Es domÄ\u0081ju, ka visi saka, ka. [11:51]
kunickis: not right translation [11:52]
kunickis: it need to be [11:52]
mircea_popescu: i bet. [11:52]
kunickis: Es domÄ\u0081ju ka visi tÄ\u0081 saka. [11:52]
kunickis: haha :D [11:52]
mircea_popescu: !~translate lv to en Es domÄ\u0081ju ka visi tÄ\u0081 saka. [11:52]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: I think that says it all. [11:52]
mircea_popescu: lol! no, that's not right either. [11:52]
kunickis: haha said. ;D [11:52]
kunickis: i] [11:52]
kunickis: oo [11:52]
kunickis: dont know why than [11:52]
kunickis: :D [11:52]
mircea_popescu: !~tr en to la "i think they all say same." [11:52]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Error: "tr" is not a valid command. [11:52]
mircea_popescu: !~translate en to lv "i think they all say same." [11:53]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Es domÄ\u0081ju, ka viÅ\u0086i visi saka pats. [11:53]
kunickis: Es domÄ\u0081ju, ka viÅ\u0086i visi saka vienÄ\u0081di [11:53]
kunickis: not "pats" but "vienÄ\u0081di" [11:53]
kunickis: :D [11:53]
mircea_popescu: !~translate lv to en Es domÄ\u0081ju, ka viÅ\u0086i visi saka vienÄ\u0081di [11:53]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: I think they all say the same [11:53]
mircea_popescu: yeah! [11:53]
kunickis: haha :D [11:53]
kunickis: "pats" mean myself or smthing like it haha [11:55]
kunickis: "vienÄ\u0081di" the same [11:55]
kunickis: bad translator. :D [11:55]
kunickis: When i was in school in English i got better mark then Latvian haha:D [11:56]
DianaComan: hm, is the logger for this channel dead? [11:58]
DianaComan: uhm, no, nm [11:58]
kunickis: mircea [12:04]
kunickis: do you get any profit from this game? [12:04]
kunickis: is there any new people playn? [12:15]
mircea_popescu: well shinohai started playing seriously i saw [12:34]
mircea_popescu: kunickis what do you mean profit ? try /show top it'll see you what people loot [12:34]
mircea_popescu: lol you know how to read logs kunickis ? [12:37]
kunickis: which lohs? [12:38]
kunickis: logs* [12:38]
kunickis: chat logs? [12:38]
mircea_popescu: yeah [12:39]
kunickis: logs.minigame.bz know. ;d [12:40]
mircea_popescu: cool [12:43]
kunickis: why asking? :d [12:44]
mircea_popescu: to know if you can read my answer to your question above. [12:45]
kunickis: Ohh. I think profit from this game.. You are giving away bitcoins but are you getting something back? [12:46]
DianaComan: kunickis, he answered you but you disconnected; hence read the logs to read his answer [12:49]
kunickis: There is no answer in logs. [12:50]
kunickis: mircea_popescu kunickis what do you mean profit ? try /show top it'll see you what people loot [12:51]
kunickis: It was last after I disconnect [12:52]
mircea_popescu: aha [12:54]
kunickis: m? [12:55]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, you around for the cft? [14:40]
mircea_popescu: alrighty ill come over. [14:42]
diana_coman: I'm dragging a table to town too [14:43]
mircea_popescu: must say bot has been supremely well behaved of late. [14:43]
diana_coman: pats bot [14:43]
diana_coman: it so happens I stumbled again upon this: http://logs.minigame.bz/2015-08-07.log.html#t13:22:09 [14:47]
lobbesbot: Title: #Eulora log for Friday, 2015-08-07 (at logs.minigame.bz) [14:47]
mircea_popescu: lol here she comes [14:51]
mircea_popescu: ahahaha happy 1year birthday foxybot! [14:52]
mircea_popescu: holy shit it came a long way [14:52]
mircea_popescu: ready ? [14:55]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman [14:55]
mircea_popescu: !~3064 * 60 * 1.56 * 1.8 [14:56]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Error: "3064" is not a valid command. [14:56]
mircea_popescu: oops [14:56]
mircea_popescu: !~calc 3064 * 180 * 1.56 * 1.8 [14:56]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 3064 * 180 * 1.56 * 1.8 = 1548668.1600000001 [14:56]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman sadly im all out of low grass. [14:56]
diana_coman: o.o [14:56]
mircea_popescu: but ill letcha know. [14:57]
diana_coman: kk, lemme see then the coins, lol [14:57]
mircea_popescu: danke [14:58]
diana_coman: lol, this is all I have [14:58]
diana_coman: thanks [14:58]

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