hanbot: | mhm | [00:17] |
Birdman: | mircea_popescu: i have 1803 rf q154; 562 cr q152; 2700 q143 f; 5966 rr q158 for 1727 | [05:07] |
Birdman: | 1 have ~1.7k rr q200+ but i'd want 180\% on it | [05:11] |
Birdman: | because of my lowish building and only getting sortage fairly recently, i dont build ords over q200, so i do need the mark up on stuff of that quality | [05:11] |
Birdman: | using electron bundles that is | [05:12] |
diana_coman: | heh, curious if market bends to what you need though | [05:15] |
diana_coman: | rr goes into charcoals so who knows | [05:16] |
Birdman: | well im in no rush either way, have pretty decent stocks of things in the q200 range i havent bothered to mention as it is | [05:20] |
mircea_popescu: | Birdman well the idea is you buy what you need when it's offered for sale. | [07:44] |
mircea_popescu: | and sure, im in town | [07:45] |
mircea_popescu: | hanbot i have a little yes. | [07:45] |
mircea_popescu: | diana_coman i actually have the 40k rr i need for the poc all laid out here. | [07:46] |
diana_coman: | diana_coman> AUCTION 60cs 20283 durability, heard 4.8mn from Birdman ; ETA 8pm GMT, 27 May 2016 <- about 8 hours left | [08:05] |
mircea_popescu: | pretty cheap huh. | [08:10] |
diana_coman: | apparently cs are not all that needed after all | [08:10] |
diana_coman: | it's very little above the market value of all bps and ingredients involved | [08:12] |
Mafroz: | hi! | [08:55] |
mircea_popescu: | how goes mafroz | [09:03] |
diana_coman: | hi Mafroz | [09:29] |
Mafroz: | can't look around with mouse. Is it possible at all? | [09:29] |
Mafroz: | Hi, diana! | [09:29] |
diana_coman: | I think it is, but never really used that, did you check the help? | [09:29] |
diana_coman: | I think danielpbarron used that maybe? | [09:29] |
Mafroz: | yeah i've used the help)yesterday i told about lang, and some1 has told me that i can change some files in game folder for this. What kind of files?))) | [09:31] |
mircea_popescu: | lol are you on windows ? | [09:33] |
mircea_popescu: | this pops up whenever a windows person comes in, we resolve it every time after some wondering, then i ask the person to put it in the wiki for the next person, then they don't, then we forget all about it because we don't give a shit, then again and again | [09:33] |
mircea_popescu: | what was it i wonder, tab ? | [09:34] |
diana_coman: | so then maybe just search in the logs for mouse movement or whatevs | [09:34] |
mircea_popescu: | i just did. | [09:34] |
mircea_popescu: | Mafroz leaving aside that the help actually says how to edit the help ; it's help.xml in /eulora/data | [09:35] |
Mafroz: | well, there is aborting changes after relaunch the app, when i've changing a .xml files | [09:37] |
mircea_popescu: | o.O ?! | [09:37] |
mircea_popescu: | dpaste the spew in question please | [09:38] |
Mafroz: | i change the xml file(copypaste another lang)-->launch app-->logging of-->open xml file--> there is samething that was before | [09:39] |
Mafroz: | and i have to launch eulora.bat or psclient.exe? | [09:41] |
diana_coman: | eulora.bat sets the env vars for you as far as I remember so you prolly want that one | [09:41] |
mircea_popescu: | you don't "open xml file", you just click the ? | [09:41] |
mircea_popescu: | there's a large questionmark symbol up top | [09:42] |
Mafroz: | )))))there written that i have to change the language in launcher | [09:45] |
mircea_popescu: | well you can change any knobs you want ; but the point is that there isn't currently any other language used anywhere ; and if you want it to be, you'll have to introduce it yourself, by editing the client. | [09:46] |
Mafroz: | ))))))there was my question, what i have to edit for switching lol | [09:47] |
danielpbarron: | that wasn't my client crashing; i brought it down for some scheduled maintainance :p | [11:17] |
mircea_popescu: | lol! | [11:21] |
Birdman: | danielpbarron got two bod for me? | [15:14] |
Birdman: | mircea_popescu you around to grab that stuff> | [15:15] |
mircea_popescu: | yes. | [15:15] |
Birdman: | i have 1803 rf q154; 562 cr q152; 2700 q143 f; 5966 rr q158 for 1727 | [15:17] |
mircea_popescu: | (5966 * 67 * 1.58 + 562 * 1.52 * 73 + 1803 * 1.54 * 67 + 2700 * 1.43 * 88) * 1.5 = 1829582.73 | [15:17] |
mircea_popescu: | where'd you come with that ? | [15:18] |
Birdman: | your math is probably right then | [15:18] |
mircea_popescu: | danke | [15:19] |
Birdman: | ty | [15:19] |
mircea_popescu: | someone really gotta start selling grass this is progressing towards ridoinculous. | [15:19] |
Birdman: | well i've been barehanding it with only threads, only using one thread per claim | [15:21] |
Birdman: | seems to profit me some grass / quality | [15:21] |
Birdman: | maybe i'll burn those cs on grass and hope for a remark | [15:22] |
mircea_popescu: | why settle for a remark :D | [15:24] |
Birdman: | well its the only thing i could realistically build :p | [15:31] |
Birdman: | how much is the sizeable bundle, 50mn? | [15:31] |
Birdman: | though electron does sell it so i guess worst case i could find an investor | [15:32] |
mircea_popescu: | aha | [15:37] |
Birdman: | <mircea_popescu>(5966 * 67 * 1.58 + 562 * 1.52 * 73 + 1803 * 1.54 * 67 + 2700 * 1.43 * 88) * 1.5 = 1829582.73 << rf is 80ecu bv not 67 | [15:51] |
mircea_popescu: | rr is 67 | [15:52] |
mircea_popescu: | ooo | [15:52] |
mircea_popescu: | (5966 * 67 * 1.58 + 562 * 1.52 * 73 + 1803 * 1.54 * 80 + 2700 * 1.43 * 88) * 1.5 = 1883726.82 | [15:52] |
mircea_popescu: | ok, material error. i owe you 53k then ? | [15:52] |
Birdman: | no you paid me the price i stated even though your math said otherwise | [15:54] |
mircea_popescu: | really 2000000 - 1883726.82 - 120000 + 3727 aha! | [15:54] |
mircea_popescu: | right you are :p | [15:54] |
Birdman: | heh | [15:54] |
Birdman: | diana_coman can i pick those cs up yet? wanna get crackin on that grass problem | [15:58] |
danielpbarron: | Birdman> danielpbarron got two bod for me? << ya | [16:04] |
Birdman: | in town? | [16:04] |
danielpbarron: | in a sec | [16:05] |
Birdman: | how much for em? | [16:10] |
danielpbarron: | i don't recall and my site isn't loading at the moment | [16:11] |
Birdman: | was 180\% aqabv iirc | [16:13] |
danielpbarron: | min order is 100k | [16:14] |
Birdman: | uhhm ill buy 3 then | [16:15] |
Birdman: | or some of your cs | [16:16] |
diana_coman: | diana_coman> AUCTION 60cs 20283 durability, heard 4.8mn from Birdman ; ETA 8pm GMT, 27 May 2016 <- sold | [16:28] |
Birdman: | yippie | [16:28] |
Birdman: | oh 4.8 | [16:30] |
diana_coman: | lol, I don't mind | [16:30] |
diana_coman: | good luck | [16:30] |
Birdman: | thank you! | [16:30] |
Birdman: | 60 sizeables here i come | [16:33] |
diana_coman: | hm, is the demand for grass *that* desperate? | [16:52] |
Birdman: | diana_coman sell me some threads? | [16:56] |
diana_coman: | threads no way | [16:56] |
Birdman: | exactly! | [16:56] |
diana_coman: | I'll sell some grass if people want it so much | [16:57] |
Birdman: | i'd buy grass, whatcha got? | [16:57] |
diana_coman: | just trying to figure out if it's really a desperate thing or not | [16:57] |
diana_coman: | hanbot is the only one who asked specifically for grass and as far as I know she got what she wanted | [16:58] |
Birdman: | i am seemingly too good at gathering to hit grass lol, all AE | [16:58] |
diana_coman: | doh | [16:58] |
diana_coman: | go to the right spot for grass , jeez | [16:58] |
Birdman: | im there i thought, next to everyone's remarks for i | [16:58] |
Birdman: | it | [16:58] |
diana_coman: | well, you might have noticed you can hit grass in many places, right? it's not everywhere quite the same though | [16:59] |
Birdman: | i've noticed that where resources were before the change seem to hit most frequently in the same spot though | [17:00] |
diana_coman: | aha | [17:01] |
diana_coman: | but did you isolate different resources? | [17:01] |
diana_coman: | has been working on this project quite intensively recently | [17:01] |
danielpbarron: | Birdman, it's 50k each so 2 is ok | [17:02] |
Birdman: | deal, next im in town | [17:02] |
Birdman: | just to click the damn things | [17:03] |
Birdman: | diana_coman where to you recommend i look for grass? | [17:03] |
diana_coman: | eh, a spot where I consistently hit only a few basics (grass, shiny rock and something else that I forgot right now) is a bit down that hill in the sandy area - you'll prolly still see my claims around | [17:05] |
diana_coman: | but tbh grass is one of those that I did not get to fully isolate yet | [17:05] |
diana_coman: | I seem to get more shiny rock there tbh | [17:05] |
Birdman: | what would you be selling grass for anyways? | [17:12] |
diana_coman: | well, if it's really needed that badly, I'll just auction it and see where it goes | [17:17] |
diana_coman: | but if the situation is not that desperate, there's no point in it | [17:18] |
mircea_popescu: | ae is not bad either. | [17:18] |
diana_coman: | so I just got ~900 grass q19 from Mafroz building my claims | [17:18] |
mircea_popescu: | nb. | [17:18] |
diana_coman: | yeah, tbh I think this is the quickest way to get quantity as it were | [17:19] |
mircea_popescu: | i'd buy say 10 stacks. | [17:19] |
mircea_popescu: | or 20, something like that. | [17:19] |
diana_coman: | heh, if he gets the hang of it | [17:19] |
mircea_popescu: | though honestly i'd prefer more in the 50ish range. | [17:19] |
danielpbarron: | got an ord snakeskin!!! | [17:19] |
mircea_popescu: | i guess level him up ? | [17:19] |
diana_coman: | that was out of 5 claims if he counted them right (I gave him a set of 10 so he still has some to go) | [17:19] |
mircea_popescu: | wow not bad dan | [17:20] |
diana_coman: | well, he doesn't even have the skill | [17:20] |
danielpbarron: | from a cs | [17:20] |
diana_coman: | well done danielpbarron | [17:20] |
diana_coman: | but those were not that rare, were they? | [17:20] |
danielpbarron: | 1k bv | [17:20] |
mircea_popescu: | you will need a shitton for the 1k books | [17:20] |
danielpbarron: | i will use them all on waters | [17:20] |
diana_coman: | myeah, tell me about it, lol | [17:20] |
mircea_popescu: | iirc they're rarer than say tlc | [17:20] |
diana_coman: | I need grc and ss so I've been at those for a while before the grass trouble | [17:21] |
diana_coman: | not to mention flotsam for the ich | [17:21] |
diana_coman: | joys of a miner | [17:21] |
mircea_popescu: | what;s ich again ? | [17:21] |
diana_coman: | improved cruddy hoe | [17:21] |
danielpbarron: | 18 ae, 1 dm, 1 io, 1 bn | [17:21] |
mircea_popescu: | ah ah | [17:21] |
diana_coman: | danielpbarron, isn't it already in the cookbook? | [17:21] |
danielpbarron: | idk | [17:21] |
mircea_popescu: | ftr, i could sell 500 ss but lowish q. | [17:21] |
mircea_popescu: | it is yeah. | [17:22] |
diana_coman: | myea, I still have some q1 | [17:23] |
mircea_popescu: | mine are like 50ish | [17:23] |
diana_coman: | re noob's grass it's prolly easier to mix his with mine to get it to whatevs q but honestly since there is no difference in markup I don't see the point | [17:23] |
danielpbarron: | water is wanted at very high quality though right? | [17:24] |
diana_coman: | and I think that is precisely the trouble with the current approach re pricing: no point to sell high q | [17:24] |
diana_coman: | danielpbarron, what's the link? | [17:24] |
diana_coman: | yes, it is | [17:25] |
diana_coman: | or at least I want it as high q as possible, yes | [17:25] |
mircea_popescu: | diana_coman well there's a difference of demand. i'd get 2-3 stacks of this q20 stuff and 20-30 stacks if it were q 50 -100 | [17:30] |
diana_coman: | lol, as if there is such a huge offer or anything | [17:30] |
mircea_popescu: | that's kinda why the curves are flat : volumes are low. | [17:30] |
Birdman: | thats why im waiting till i have loads of high q stuff to bring to the table | [17:48] |
mircea_popescu: | bejesus i burned millions worth of harnesses.... | [18:43] |
mircea_popescu: | guess ima have to make even more. | [18:43] |
Birdman: | Yes mircea_popescu AE is not bad, if i ever get the threads to build it! | [19:01] |
Birdman: | well 18 cs in and no grass, i give up | [19:37] |
Birdman: | back to farming | [19:37] |
Birdman: | damn client crashed | [19:46] |
Birdman: | is there some sort of log i can post to figure out why? | [19:46] |
hanbot: | diana_coman> hanbot is the only one who asked specifically for grass and as far as I know she got what she wanted << Nah, was super low volume for an experiment I meanwhile abandoned. | [20:16] |
Birdman: | if anyone has Q300 grass i'd pay 180\% for it | [21:22] |
mircea_popescu: | Birdman how about q 1000 ? | [21:28] |
Birdman: | i'd buy q1000 grass for 180\% sure | [21:28] |
mircea_popescu: | lemme see here | [21:28] |
mircea_popescu: | i got 51 q 1025. how about 200 seeing how it's an utter pita. | [21:29] |
Birdman: | is that all i can get? | [21:29] |
mircea_popescu: | all i got yep | [21:29] |
Birdman: | i guess im all set then | [21:30] |
mircea_popescu: | k | [21:30] |
Birdman: | thanks though | [21:30] |
Birdman: | i just dont find anything important enough to justify it | [21:31] |
Birdman: | and my bps aren't that great | [21:31] |
mircea_popescu: | np | [21:36] |
Birdman: | thinking if i went at it long enough i'd probably get a remarkable grass or something, but i was finding mainly tpt which is pretty wasteful right now | [22:23] |
Birdman: | maybe a noob would find some grass ords easily, but couldnt say what their output would be, even if they didnt miss often and find things besides grass | [22:24] |
Birdman: | someone mid level would be best for that i guess | [22:24] |
mircea_popescu: | mid level, that'd be you neh ? | [22:25] |
Birdman: | scoffs | [22:25] |
Birdman: | i like to think im a high tier gatherer | [22:25] |
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