#eulora Logs for 27 May 2016



May 27th, 2016 by Diana Coman
hanbot: mhm [00:17]
Birdman: mircea_popescu: i have 1803 rf q154; 562 cr q152; 2700 q143 f; 5966 rr q158 for 1727 [05:07]
Birdman: 1 have ~1.7k rr q200+ but i'd want 180\% on it [05:11]
Birdman: because of my lowish building and only getting sortage fairly recently, i dont build ords over q200, so i do need the mark up on stuff of that quality [05:11]
Birdman: using electron bundles that is [05:12]
diana_coman: heh, curious if market bends to what you need though [05:15]
diana_coman: rr goes into charcoals so who knows [05:16]
Birdman: well im in no rush either way, have pretty decent stocks of things in the q200 range i havent bothered to mention as it is [05:20]
mircea_popescu: Birdman well the idea is you buy what you need when it's offered for sale. [07:44]
mircea_popescu: and sure, im in town [07:45]
mircea_popescu: hanbot i have a little yes. [07:45]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i actually have the 40k rr i need for the poc all laid out here. [07:46]
diana_coman: diana_coman> AUCTION 60cs 20283 durability, heard 4.8mn from Birdman ; ETA 8pm GMT, 27 May 2016 <- about 8 hours left [08:05]
mircea_popescu: pretty cheap huh. [08:10]
diana_coman: apparently cs are not all that needed after all [08:10]
diana_coman: it's very little above the market value of all bps and ingredients involved [08:12]
Mafroz: hi! [08:55]
mircea_popescu: how goes mafroz [09:03]
diana_coman: hi Mafroz [09:29]
Mafroz: can't look around with mouse. Is it possible at all? [09:29]
Mafroz: Hi, diana! [09:29]
diana_coman: I think it is, but never really used that, did you check the help? [09:29]
diana_coman: I think danielpbarron used that maybe? [09:29]
Mafroz: yeah i've used the help)yesterday i told about lang, and some1 has told me that i can change some files in game folder for this. What kind of files?))) [09:31]
mircea_popescu: lol are you on windows ? [09:33]
mircea_popescu: this pops up whenever a windows person comes in, we resolve it every time after some wondering, then i ask the person to put it in the wiki for the next person, then they don't, then we forget all about it because we don't give a shit, then again and again [09:33]
mircea_popescu: what was it i wonder, tab ? [09:34]
diana_coman: so then maybe just search in the logs for mouse movement or whatevs [09:34]
mircea_popescu: i just did. [09:34]
mircea_popescu: Mafroz leaving aside that the help actually says how to edit the help ; it's help.xml in /eulora/data [09:35]
Mafroz: well, there is aborting changes after relaunch the app, when i've changing a .xml files [09:37]
mircea_popescu: o.O ?! [09:37]
mircea_popescu: dpaste the spew in question please [09:38]
Mafroz: i change the xml file(copypaste another lang)-->launch app-->logging of-->open xml file--> there is samething that was before [09:39]
Mafroz: and i have to launch eulora.bat or psclient.exe? [09:41]
diana_coman: eulora.bat sets the env vars for you as far as I remember so you prolly want that one [09:41]
mircea_popescu: you don't "open xml file", you just click the ? [09:41]
mircea_popescu: there's a large questionmark symbol up top [09:42]
Mafroz: )))))there written that i have to change the language in launcher [09:45]
mircea_popescu: well you can change any knobs you want ; but the point is that there isn't currently any other language used anywhere ; and if you want it to be, you'll have to introduce it yourself, by editing the client. [09:46]
Mafroz: ))))))there was my question, what i have to edit for switching lol [09:47]
danielpbarron: that wasn't my client crashing; i brought it down for some scheduled maintainance :p [11:17]
mircea_popescu: lol! [11:21]
Birdman: danielpbarron got two bod for me? [15:14]
Birdman: mircea_popescu you around to grab that stuff> [15:15]
mircea_popescu: yes. [15:15]
Birdman: i have 1803 rf q154; 562 cr q152; 2700 q143 f; 5966 rr q158 for 1727 [15:17]
mircea_popescu: (5966 * 67 * 1.58 + 562 * 1.52 * 73 + 1803 * 1.54 * 67 + 2700 * 1.43 * 88) * 1.5 = 1829582.73 [15:17]
mircea_popescu: where'd you come with that ? [15:18]
Birdman: your math is probably right then [15:18]
mircea_popescu: danke [15:19]
Birdman: ty [15:19]
mircea_popescu: someone really gotta start selling grass this is progressing towards ridoinculous. [15:19]
Birdman: well i've been barehanding it with only threads, only using one thread per claim [15:21]
Birdman: seems to profit me some grass / quality [15:21]
Birdman: maybe i'll burn those cs on grass and hope for a remark [15:22]
mircea_popescu: why settle for a remark :D [15:24]
Birdman: well its the only thing i could realistically build :p [15:31]
Birdman: how much is the sizeable bundle, 50mn? [15:31]
Birdman: though electron does sell it so i guess worst case i could find an investor [15:32]
mircea_popescu: aha [15:37]
Birdman: <mircea_popescu>(5966 * 67 * 1.58 + 562 * 1.52 * 73 + 1803 * 1.54 * 67 + 2700 * 1.43 * 88) * 1.5 = 1829582.73 << rf is 80ecu bv not 67 [15:51]
mircea_popescu: rr is 67 [15:52]
mircea_popescu: ooo [15:52]
mircea_popescu: (5966 * 67 * 1.58 + 562 * 1.52 * 73 + 1803 * 1.54 * 80 + 2700 * 1.43 * 88) * 1.5 = 1883726.82 [15:52]
mircea_popescu: ok, material error. i owe you 53k then ? [15:52]
Birdman: no you paid me the price i stated even though your math said otherwise [15:54]
mircea_popescu: really 2000000 - 1883726.82 - 120000 + 3727 aha! [15:54]
mircea_popescu: right you are :p [15:54]
Birdman: heh [15:54]
Birdman: diana_coman can i pick those cs up yet? wanna get crackin on that grass problem [15:58]
danielpbarron: Birdman> danielpbarron got two bod for me? << ya [16:04]
Birdman: in town? [16:04]
danielpbarron: in a sec [16:05]
Birdman: how much for em? [16:10]
danielpbarron: i don't recall and my site isn't loading at the moment [16:11]
Birdman: was 180\% aqabv iirc [16:13]
danielpbarron: min order is 100k [16:14]
Birdman: uhhm ill buy 3 then [16:15]
Birdman: or some of your cs [16:16]
diana_coman: diana_coman> AUCTION 60cs 20283 durability, heard 4.8mn from Birdman ; ETA 8pm GMT, 27 May 2016 <- sold [16:28]
Birdman: yippie [16:28]
Birdman: oh 4.8 [16:30]
diana_coman: lol, I don't mind [16:30]
diana_coman: good luck [16:30]
Birdman: thank you! [16:30]
Birdman: 60 sizeables here i come [16:33]
diana_coman: hm, is the demand for grass *that* desperate? [16:52]
Birdman: diana_coman sell me some threads? [16:56]
diana_coman: threads no way [16:56]
Birdman: exactly! [16:56]
diana_coman: I'll sell some grass if people want it so much [16:57]
Birdman: i'd buy grass, whatcha got? [16:57]
diana_coman: just trying to figure out if it's really a desperate thing or not [16:57]
diana_coman: hanbot is the only one who asked specifically for grass and as far as I know she got what she wanted [16:58]
Birdman: i am seemingly too good at gathering to hit grass lol, all AE [16:58]
diana_coman: doh [16:58]
diana_coman: go to the right spot for grass , jeez [16:58]
Birdman: im there i thought, next to everyone's remarks for i [16:58]
Birdman: it [16:58]
diana_coman: well, you might have noticed you can hit grass in many places, right? it's not everywhere quite the same though [16:59]
Birdman: i've noticed that where resources were before the change seem to hit most frequently in the same spot though [17:00]
diana_coman: aha [17:01]
diana_coman: but did you isolate different resources? [17:01]
diana_coman: has been working on this project quite intensively recently [17:01]
danielpbarron: Birdman, it's 50k each so 2 is ok [17:02]
Birdman: deal, next im in town [17:02]
Birdman: just to click the damn things [17:03]
Birdman: diana_coman where to you recommend i look for grass? [17:03]
diana_coman: eh, a spot where I consistently hit only a few basics (grass, shiny rock and something else that I forgot right now) is a bit down that hill in the sandy area - you'll prolly still see my claims around [17:05]
diana_coman: but tbh grass is one of those that I did not get to fully isolate yet [17:05]
diana_coman: I seem to get more shiny rock there tbh [17:05]
Birdman: what would you be selling grass for anyways? [17:12]
diana_coman: well, if it's really needed that badly, I'll just auction it and see where it goes [17:17]
diana_coman: but if the situation is not that desperate, there's no point in it [17:18]
mircea_popescu: ae is not bad either. [17:18]
diana_coman: so I just got ~900 grass q19 from Mafroz building my claims [17:18]
mircea_popescu: nb. [17:18]
diana_coman: yeah, tbh I think this is the quickest way to get quantity as it were [17:19]
mircea_popescu: i'd buy say 10 stacks. [17:19]
mircea_popescu: or 20, something like that. [17:19]
diana_coman: heh, if he gets the hang of it [17:19]
mircea_popescu: though honestly i'd prefer more in the 50ish range. [17:19]
danielpbarron: got an ord snakeskin!!! [17:19]
mircea_popescu: i guess level him up ? [17:19]
diana_coman: that was out of 5 claims if he counted them right (I gave him a set of 10 so he still has some to go) [17:19]
mircea_popescu: wow not bad dan [17:20]
diana_coman: well, he doesn't even have the skill [17:20]
danielpbarron: from a cs [17:20]
diana_coman: well done danielpbarron [17:20]
diana_coman: but those were not that rare, were they? [17:20]
danielpbarron: 1k bv [17:20]
mircea_popescu: you will need a shitton for the 1k books [17:20]
danielpbarron: i will use them all on waters [17:20]
diana_coman: myeah, tell me about it, lol [17:20]
mircea_popescu: iirc they're rarer than say tlc [17:20]
diana_coman: I need grc and ss so I've been at those for a while before the grass trouble [17:21]
diana_coman: not to mention flotsam for the ich [17:21]
diana_coman: joys of a miner [17:21]
mircea_popescu: what;s ich again ? [17:21]
diana_coman: improved cruddy hoe [17:21]
danielpbarron: 18 ae, 1 dm, 1 io, 1 bn [17:21]
mircea_popescu: ah ah [17:21]
diana_coman: danielpbarron, isn't it already in the cookbook? [17:21]
danielpbarron: idk [17:21]
mircea_popescu: ftr, i could sell 500 ss but lowish q. [17:21]
mircea_popescu: it is yeah. [17:22]
diana_coman: myea, I still have some q1 [17:23]
mircea_popescu: mine are like 50ish [17:23]
diana_coman: re noob's grass it's prolly easier to mix his with mine to get it to whatevs q but honestly since there is no difference in markup I don't see the point [17:23]
danielpbarron: water is wanted at very high quality though right? [17:24]
diana_coman: and I think that is precisely the trouble with the current approach re pricing: no point to sell high q [17:24]
diana_coman: danielpbarron, what's the link? [17:24]
diana_coman: yes, it is [17:25]
diana_coman: or at least I want it as high q as possible, yes [17:25]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman well there's a difference of demand. i'd get 2-3 stacks of this q20 stuff and 20-30 stacks if it were q 50 -100 [17:30]
diana_coman: lol, as if there is such a huge offer or anything [17:30]
mircea_popescu: that's kinda why the curves are flat : volumes are low. [17:30]
Birdman: thats why im waiting till i have loads of high q stuff to bring to the table [17:48]
mircea_popescu: bejesus i burned millions worth of harnesses.... [18:43]
mircea_popescu: guess ima have to make even more. [18:43]
Birdman: Yes mircea_popescu AE is not bad, if i ever get the threads to build it! [19:01]
Birdman: well 18 cs in and no grass, i give up [19:37]
Birdman: back to farming [19:37]
Birdman: damn client crashed [19:46]
Birdman: is there some sort of log i can post to figure out why? [19:46]
hanbot: diana_coman> hanbot is the only one who asked specifically for grass and as far as I know she got what she wanted << Nah, was super low volume for an experiment I meanwhile abandoned. [20:16]
Birdman: if anyone has Q300 grass i'd pay 180\% for it [21:22]
mircea_popescu: Birdman how about q 1000 ? [21:28]
Birdman: i'd buy q1000 grass for 180\% sure [21:28]
mircea_popescu: lemme see here [21:28]
mircea_popescu: i got 51 q 1025. how about 200 seeing how it's an utter pita. [21:29]
Birdman: is that all i can get? [21:29]
mircea_popescu: all i got yep [21:29]
Birdman: i guess im all set then [21:30]
mircea_popescu: k [21:30]
Birdman: thanks though [21:30]
Birdman: i just dont find anything important enough to justify it [21:31]
Birdman: and my bps aren't that great [21:31]
mircea_popescu: np [21:36]
Birdman: thinking if i went at it long enough i'd probably get a remarkable grass or something, but i was finding mainly tpt which is pretty wasteful right now [22:23]
Birdman: maybe a noob would find some grass ords easily, but couldnt say what their output would be, even if they didnt miss often and find things besides grass [22:24]
Birdman: someone mid level would be best for that i guess [22:24]
mircea_popescu: mid level, that'd be you neh ? [22:25]
Birdman: scoffs [22:25]
Birdman: i like to think im a high tier gatherer [22:25]

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