| Birdman: | couple weeks or so | [00:14] |
| Birdman: | hanbot what resources do you find at that spot | [01:26] |
| diana_coman: | alikim> it crashes all the time <- hm, I suspect it's the changes you made to it, as otherwise it seems to work fine for everyone else really, even others who run it on Windows such as Birdman | [04:22] |
| alikim: | diana_coman: could be | [04:23] |
| diana_coman: | Birdman> i think the easiest thing for noobs to do is gathering and building <- might be "easiest" but not sure about profitable | [04:23] |
| diana_coman: | as to lone wolf: I'd be surprised by what measure exactly I do NOT qualify for that - I got those 200 books on all basic skills for a reason really | [04:23] |
| diana_coman: | alikim> on the other hand I feel like I'm the only new player in the history of this game trying to do something on my own instead of just being somebody's extra time slot, so all problems I have are exclusively my own <- that's pretty much how *everyone* started in fact | [04:24] |
| diana_coman: | most got to the conclusion that at least some sort of trade is actually helpful to everyone involved | [04:25] |
| diana_coman: | the only unique thing might be that you are *also* trying to do it without any initial investment of coppers | [04:26] |
| alikim: | true | [04:30] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, I'll sell 2k worn-out hoes at 4k per tool as per your shop; I also have 1k+ wpl (should be above 200q overall) and 200 ST | [05:01] |
| Birdman: | <diana_coman>Birdman> i think the easiest thing for noobs to do is gathering and building <- might be "easiest" but not sure about profitable << meant easiest as the most sustainable, there may not be immediate riches in it, but it'd be hard to work at a loss | [05:23] |
| diana_coman: | how do you reckon that Birdman ? | [05:23] |
| Birdman: | well barehanding is a huge subsidy | [05:24] |
| diana_coman: | and updated shop (paying slightly more than mp on cdg, selling rares and tomes mainly): http://www.dianacoman.com/eulora/foxystore/ | [05:26] |
| diana_coman: | getting to grips with current prices is a bitch; not to mention actually using them (as in calculating them) - a huge pain, that formula | [05:27] |
| diana_coman: | ah, in that sense yes, but bh still requires a. to find something (not sure how often does a complete noob actually find something and then how much that is) and b. having stuff to build it with | [05:27] |
| diana_coman: | considering complete noob - no skill at all | [05:28] |
| Birdman: | yeah, but still ~something~ for them to do without bleeding money | [05:28] |
| Birdman: | and it probably still ranks you up pretty gud for awhile | [05:28] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, as I'm getting up to date with your new prices and stuff; am I correct to say that you are basically paying people for ingredients+bps same as for finished product? | [05:29] |
| Birdman: | plus tool decay | [05:29] |
| diana_coman: | guess that means that selling crafted items to you makes sense ONLY if one overcrafts AND gets loads more than the input they gave | [05:29] |
| diana_coman: | although even that is dubious at best | [05:29] |
| Birdman: | could look at it as free exp | [05:30] |
| diana_coman: | does he Birdman ? I don't see any mention of that in the shop; here it is: All crafted precursorsvi in large batches. As broad guideline I'm paying the above for raw materials and 500\% for the blueprints involved in the whole craft line. This is just a guideline however, contact me with specifics for a firm quote. | [05:30] |
| Birdman: | with even slight profits | [05:30] |
| Birdman: | it is a footnote | [05:30] |
| diana_coman: | well, xp is good ONLY if you have some skills | [05:30] |
| diana_coman: | or complete noobs = no skills at all, as I specifically stated exactly for this reason | [05:31] |
| Birdman: | oh nevermind, its a footnote for something else | [05:31] |
| diana_coman: | anyways, so now a cft according to that would be base value 1791 which is about 10 times the official bv o.o | [05:32] |
| Birdman: | how do you get that? | [05:32] |
| Birdman: | 60*3*1.5 + 18*5 = 360 by his formula | [05:33] |
| Birdman: | which sorta makes sense if bps are 1/10 and he pays 500\% for em | [05:34] |
| diana_coman: | ah, nm, somehow I messed that up | [05:35] |
| Birdman: | its pretty confusing | [05:35] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron, I'll buy all your ppb q112 at 7500 each as per your shop if that's still valid | [05:38] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron, I'll also buy 100 waters of anamnesia q202, 60k each | [05:41] |
| Birdman: | diana_coman you wouldnt have two bod for sale would you? | [06:03] |
| alikim: | diana_coman: by Mining skill you mean Sortage? | [06:09] |
| alikim: | on you rshop page | [06:10] |
| Birdman: | no, mining is a seperate skill that increases the quality of resources in the mining category | [06:10] |
| alikim: | ah right thanks | [06:11] |
| Birdman: | no problem, i should probably buy it sooner than later | [06:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman just about | [07:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | <alikim> if I feel like sharing and caring, I will, if I don't, I don't << if you "don't feel like sharing and caring", get lost. that's what the GPL license says publicly, it's also my private position. and it is not limited to this game, either. you'll have to kill yourself, because guess what, you don't have it in you to live life on your own. but at the very least you'll have to move out of australia and into somalia or s | [07:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | omesuch. | [07:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | alikim> as to my would-be friends if I give them a freebie and woudn't-be-friends if I don't, I don't need such friends << currently, you're that. eulora client is open source already ; you read it already. the freebie is already done. | [07:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | but anyway, i believe it's time to put some bite on this actually. you're worth more as a dead example than as a live thing. | [07:47] |
| Birdman: | 300k worth of leathers out of a single ord! | [08:16] |
| Birdman: | nearly a full level of farming exp too, which is the most exciting part | [08:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | win. | [08:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman> getting to grips with current prices is a bitch; not to mention actually using them (as in calculating them) - a huge pain, that formula << heh! | [08:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | i expect it'll only get worse. | [08:25] |
| Birdman: | gonna shred these q5 maculture and see where that gets me, and probably barehand some grass for awhile till i can get more threads | [08:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | i still say making maculature is crazy atm. | [08:27] |
| Birdman: | whatcha mean making them? | [08:27] |
| Birdman: | also getting a pretty surprising amount of loot considering im shredding q5 with q87 bps | [08:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman> guess that means that selling crafted items to you makes sense ONLY << if they get cheaper bps, or if they get cheaper goods, or if they are happy to get the xp for no risk, or or or. | [08:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | Birdman how do you value those q87 bps though, is the rub. | [08:28] |
| Birdman: | if i could get ~any~ better i'd sell these crappy ones in a heart beat | [08:29] |
| Birdman: | of all the things to have low quality, SI is probably one of the worst lol | [08:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | heh | [08:29] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, I'll sell 2k worn-out hoes at 4k per tool as per your shop; I also have 1k+ wpl (should be above 200q overall) and 200 ST <- want any of those? | [08:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | sure. | [08:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | shit, ST ?! | [08:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | win. | [08:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | gotta say my new shop has certainly improved my acquisition flow :D | [08:38] |
| diana_coman: | ahaha, yeah | [08:39] |
| diana_coman: | and I updated my shop - guess I'm selling mainly rares and shit | [08:39] |
| diana_coman: | Foxy's Rare Items | [08:40] |
| diana_coman: | kk, will get everything out, should be some 5min | [08:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | just in time, too, i burned millions in samovars to date and will be burning more. | [08:40] |
| diana_coman: | if I don't run out of cft... | [08:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah seriously, peeps gotta start sellin me grass. | [08:41] |
| diana_coman: | I am even offering slightly more than you on grass! | [08:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | goes and checks | [08:42] |
| diana_coman: | just to get some tons of it, but people are busy with other things apparently | [08:42] |
| Birdman: | ten shreds in and its costing my 1070 ecu a click | [08:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | no way. just the bp is more than that | [08:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | and the table decay is prolly 10-20k | [08:43] |
| Birdman: | i accounted for all that, decay is 2853 a click | [08:43] |
| Birdman: | this is just basevalue | [08:43] |
| Birdman: | if i count by what i paid for everything respectively then.. lol | [08:43] |
| Birdman: | all the loots are pretty useless too, be surprised if i can get any premium on them | [08:44] |
| diana_coman: | Birdman, out of curiosity: does your client crash? | [08:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman btw i'll buy your basics ords. | [08:44] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, if only I had any idea what an ord (or any other claim) actually is worth, I could sell them you know | [08:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | you say 10k ? | [08:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh nm, that's buying. go me :p | [08:45] |
| diana_coman: | ahaha, lol, yeah | [08:45] |
| Birdman: | i think it has, rarely, but i think it had been a problem on my computer's end not the clients | [08:45] |
| Birdman: | i'd also buy all grocery ords for a pretty penny | [08:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman 8 * 2 * 1096 but sg not tlc ? | [08:48] |
| diana_coman: | hm? | [08:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | o nm tlc is there also. god help us. | [08:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | ftr, wasn't tlc 1086 ? | [08:48] |
| diana_coman: | myeah | [08:48] |
| diana_coman: | http://www.dianacoman.com/Eulora/Two-Leaf-Clover.html | [08:48] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: Two Leaf Clover(tlc) (at www.dianacoman.com) | [08:48] |
| diana_coman: | my cookbook says 1096 | [08:48] |
| Birdman: | eulorum says 1096 | [08:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | ugh. my paper says 1086 | [08:49] |
| diana_coman: | lemme check | [08:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | merchant says 1096 | [08:49] |
| diana_coman: | aha | [08:49] |
| diana_coman: | 1096, your paper sucks | [08:49] |
| diana_coman: | :p | [08:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | copygirl gets a lash for this. | [08:49] |
| Birdman: | mircea_popescu why not mine that grass remark? | [08:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | which ? | [08:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | radio erevan lol, not remark but sizeable, not mine but daniel's etc | [08:50] |
| diana_coman: | ahahaha, quite | [08:50] |
| Birdman: | where the old grass spot was i see one you made | [08:50] |
| diana_coman: | anyways mircea_popescu trade for ze ST | [08:51] |
| diana_coman: | 100 st 184q | [08:51] |
| diana_coman: | 200 ! | [08:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol which is it | [08:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | (15000 + 5093 * 1.84 * 2)*200 + 2000 * 4000 + 1808 * 2.66 * 1.8= 14757104.704 | [08:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | dang | [08:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | i should ask for a 40k discount :D | [08:53] |
| diana_coman: | hm? 200*(15000+5093*1.84*2)+2000*4000+1.8*1808*2.66*152 | [08:53] |
| diana_coman: | you forgot the base value for the wpl? | [08:53] |
| Birdman: | whoa, diana_coman how much for that DM tomb spot again? | [08:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | o no. i did | [08:53] |
| diana_coman: | 16064267 | [08:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | (15000 + 5093 * 1.84 * 2)*200 + 2000 * 4000 + 1808 * 152 ×2.66 * 1.8 = 16064267.008 | [08:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | aye | [08:53] |
| diana_coman: | ha, any record trade here? | [08:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | nah i did likle 29 mn with Birdman | [08:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | thanks! | [08:54] |
| diana_coman: | enjoy! | [08:54] |
| diana_coman: | awww, what a jaded tradeworld we live in if not even st makes a difference | [08:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [08:56] |
| diana_coman: | Birdman, that's an interesting question really nowadays, but I'll be lazy and say it's still the same 10mn | [08:56] |
| Birdman: | damn, i was hoping it was 1mn by some miracle | [08:56] |
| diana_coman: | when I stop being lazy I'll start calculating with the new market values and see what that makes it | [08:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [08:57] |
| Birdman: | what else do you find around it? | [08:57] |
| diana_coman: | resources? lol | [08:58] |
| Birdman: | well if i buy this i gotta know what im buying | [08:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | "yeah but is it negative coords or positive coords" :D | [08:58] |
| diana_coman: | lol | [08:58] |
| diana_coman: | Birdman, you are buying a key with coordinates, showing it is a dm spot, what else is there to know | [08:58] |
| Birdman: | whether or not imma find lots of heavy, non farming stuff | [08:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | legit concern huh. | [08:59] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, yes and no, I mean really if you are after dm what difference does that make exactly? | [08:59] |
| Birdman: | how long it'll run by itself and how much money i'll be sinking into things i dont want to | [09:00] |
| Birdman: | the bot i mean | [09:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | ahh sweet sweet delicious slithy tove! | [09:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | so diana_coman how many tomes can you sell me ? | [09:00] |
| diana_coman: | heh, it was quite a find: I come home and check on the bot and ..dang, remarkable st! | [09:01] |
| Birdman: | shit nice | [09:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | nice! | [09:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | remark sold for ~7mn nb. | [09:01] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, I can sell 10 at 245q right now | [09:02] |
| Birdman: | heh, too good to even bare hand this grass, finding more smalls than tinies and i've no threads | [09:02] |
| diana_coman: | well, the bundle itself was some 5.5mn anyway, yeah | [09:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | ill take em | [09:02] |
| diana_coman: | kk, taking out | [09:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | danke | [09:05] |
| diana_coman: | thanks! | [09:05] |
| diana_coman: | so we brought the total to 22mn, not bad for one day of trading, lol | [09:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [09:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | hey, search your clothes closely, if you find another 100 tomes ill buy em | [09:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | "oh i overlooked this inside pocket" | [09:07] |
| diana_coman: | eh, they are a pain to make them at this q ; I suppose you'd really prefer them high q rather than lower, right? | [09:07] |
| diana_coman: | (I know I do) | [09:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | surely. | [09:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh and also - get me sg, srsly. i'm like a whole stack behind here. | [09:08] |
| diana_coman: | trouble is that the cdg/cft looming trouble sidetracks me again as otherwise yeah, I was mainly focusing on making the 1k dt and 1k ich, but they all require all sorts of resources and if I run out of cft then there will be none at all | [09:08] |
| diana_coman: | same problem as it were - I'd gladly get sg (I get it quite easily for some reason) but now I have to somehow crack the cdg looming problem | [09:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | myeah. | [09:09] |
| Birdman: | has anyone seen profit in grass from small claims? | [09:11] |
| Birdman: | should you be oc them or what to get more grass than used | [09:11] |
| diana_coman: | I *saw* it - when I set my noobs at it, but since they seem to have vanished again... | [09:11] |
| Birdman: | well yeah but grass that isnt such low quality i mean | [09:12] |
| Birdman: | maybe the grass you got wouldnt add up to the same amount of quality in threads you used or something | [09:12] |
| diana_coman: | it wasn't terribly low quality either, no; in any case to answer your question: I tend to get 1 single cdg if I feed the claim between 1 and 4 cft; 2-3 otherwise | [09:12] |
| diana_coman: | but this is of course the "usual" - not the unusual which potentially redeems all the rest | [09:13] |
| Birdman: | interesting | [09:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | well....hm. | [09:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | AUCTION : selling one stack CFT bp, q 201, opening 3.5mn. eta 17:00 ART tomorrow. | [09:15] |
| diana_coman: | I *also* got 1k out of one grass ordinary (tool) but then usually ordinaries fetch me more like 100-200 grass | [09:15] |
| diana_coman: | so kind of hard to say really | [09:15] |
| Birdman: | right, i was thinking just ditch the smalls all together, or save them to get the crazy high q grass you might want, and get the bulk of decent quality from tinies and ords | [09:16] |
| Birdman: | 967\% ish on those cft bps | [09:16] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, well, as his shop says, he sells bps for 1000\% | [09:16] |
| Birdman: | yeah | [09:17] |
| diana_coman: | I might regret it, but atm I think I still have enough cft bps | [09:17] |
| Birdman: | i've stacks of q30-40 of em | [09:17] |
| Birdman: | and few thousand coming from danielpbarron | [09:17] |
| diana_coman: | shit, I just realised mircea_popescu I wouldn't even be able to actually store 1k tomes if I made them, lmao | [09:17] |
| diana_coman: | as they don't stack | [09:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | :) | [09:17] |
| Birdman: | but im in no position to buy that sort of thing | [09:17] |
| Birdman: | lol thats a good point | [09:17] |
| danielpbarron: | diana_coman> danielpbarron, I'll also buy 100 waters of anamnesia q202, 60k each << I don't have 100, but would you like 50? | [10:23] |
| diana_coman: | yes danielpbarron ; also all the cft if you still sell it at the price in your shop | [10:23] |
| diana_coman: | I'm a bit away from the game comp atm ,will get back in the evening, so in 3hours from now | [10:24] |
| danielpbarron: | diana_coman> danielpbarron, I'll buy all your ppb q112 at 7500 each as per your shop if that's still valid << I've got 500 here for ya | [10:31] |
| danielpbarron: | diana_coman> yes danielpbarron ; also all the cft if you still sell it at the price in your shop << which price did you see? I just updated it while looking for those other two things | [10:31] |
| Birdman: | you around to let me grab those bps danielpbarron ? | [10:36] |
| danielpbarron: | ya | [10:39] |
| Birdman: | sweet headed to town now | [10:40] |
| Birdman: | how much | [10:43] |
| danielpbarron: | a little over 100k | [10:43] |
| Birdman: | ty | [10:44] |
| Birdman: | dont go far gonna get you some supplies to craft | [10:44] |
| danielpbarron: | lol | [10:44] |
| Birdman: | 580 cft clicks for 8700 with this grass and bps? | [10:47] |
| danielpbarron: | ehem.. minimum order | [10:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron ftr, q 112 ppb goes for (4466 * 1.5 + 446*5)*1.12 = 10000.48 in mah shop. | [10:47] |
| danielpbarron: | yes i upped mine to 10k too | [10:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | so you got any to sell ? | [10:48] |
| danielpbarron: | i honor prices published on my page up to 1 item or 100k worth whichever is lower | [10:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | ok so how many you're honoring it with ? | [10:48] |
| Birdman: | lol | [10:48] |
| Birdman: | the perks of lacking specified quantity | [10:49] |
| danielpbarron: | mircea_popescu, want 1k ? | [10:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | sure. | [10:50] |
| danielpbarron: | i'm in town | [10:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | me2!! | [10:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | sweet | [10:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | what else you got in trade ? | [10:51] |
| danielpbarron: | ty | [10:52] |
| danielpbarron: | idk heh, so far i'm just riding this new price wave as it comes to me | [10:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | ill take thart slag ; how much you got ? | [10:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol i read your link to instagram as "instagrope" | [10:54] |
| danielpbarron: | mircea_popescu, 2k slag | [10:55] |
| danielpbarron: | yeah it says that | [10:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | ill take it. | [10:55] |
| danielpbarron: | you read it correctly | [10:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | o.O | [10:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | also i'll take your imp c hoe bps. | [10:56] |
| Birdman: | you gonna take these grasses danielpbarron ? | [10:58] |
| danielpbarron: | mircea_popescu, i got 250 of those | [10:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | done and don. | [11:00] |
| danielpbarron: | Birdman, that's less than 10k worth.. | [11:00] |
| Birdman: | oh, fair enough | [11:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | 2 * 1.7 + .250 * 51.7 = 16.325 | [11:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | sorry for no change | [11:01] |
| danielpbarron: | i need to make change after trade | [11:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | kk | [11:02] |
| danielpbarron: | overweight now | [11:02] |
| Birdman: | need 20k grass min to have you make threads lol | [11:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | so 24 with diana, was it, 16 and change here... now a bad trade day. | [11:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | was like 17mn or so with hanbot too yest, i dun recall what birdman got off me like 10 maybe ? | [11:03] |
| danielpbarron: | or buy something else too | [11:03] |
| Birdman: | yeah about that | [11:03] |
| Birdman: | 8 or so | [11:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | nothing quite gets an economy moving like rising prices eh. | [11:03] |
| Birdman: | i could probably sell more but no rush | [11:04] |
| Birdman: | really just need some damn threads | [11:04] |
| danielpbarron: | i guess you could say the blueprints were part of the same deal, but i already did that | [11:04] |
| Birdman: | i dont expect you to be crafting me stuff to make 8700 lol no worries bud | [11:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | wtf bs grass is he selling you that he needs 2 stacks to make 10k | [11:04] |
| Birdman: | his trades are 100k min, and charges 15 ecu per tinker click | [11:04] |
| danielpbarron: | wants me to craft it for him | [11:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh i see | [11:04] |
| Birdman: | 100000/15*3 grass | [11:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | maybe consider making it by the time you know, "min 1 hour crafting time" or w/e. | [11:05] |
| danielpbarron: | yeah i think i need to refigure my tinkering charge | [11:05] |
| danielpbarron: | whatever i'll take your grass for now Birdman | [11:05] |
| Birdman: | later, just got my dude to the gathering spot | [11:05] |
| danielpbarron: | k | [11:05] |
| Birdman: | also, i ~profit~ (probably) from hiring you to tinker at that price | [11:06] |
| danielpbarron: | that's cool cuz i do too | [11:06] |
| Birdman: | i assume your tinkering would make many q points better than my own | [11:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | gaaaaawd i can't fucking wait for all these crafts to be done already! | [11:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | the curse of the crafter - when you're short precursors you want precursors ; when you have plenty you want to be done with the craft. no way to be happy. | [11:08] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron, cft I saw at 307 coppers 114q | [11:28] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron> diana_coman> danielpbarron, I'll buy all your ppb q112 at 7500 each as per your shop if that's still valid << I've got 500 here for ya <- cool | [11:29] |
| Birdman: | i'd buy cft at that price too | [11:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | btw danielpbarron : tell trifonov ( @3nderapp ) to show up on #trilema sometime. going full tmsr is just the pill to fuck over tinder/IAC permanently. | [11:39] |
| danielpbarron: | diana_coman, aha bit did you order it when you saw it? I had updated the page before you said in here but i'll do 100k worth for ya | [12:33] |
| danielpbarron: | mircea_popescu, done https://twitter.com/danielpbarron/status/735509960335986688 | [12:37] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: Daniel P. Barron on Twitter: "@3nderapp Join #trilema on freenode wouldja; going "full tmsr" is just the pill to screw over @Tinder permanently. https://t.co/ryxHbUjZgj" (at twitter.com) | [12:37] |
| danielpbarron: | nice bot! | [12:38] |
| danielpbarron: | and lol re: ali ; i take it he was banned from the eulora server? | [12:39] |
| danielpbarron: | seeing as how he still idles here | [12:39] |
| danielpbarron: | very useful corpse; can point to this log next time someone gets all uppity about winbl0wz to me | [12:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | win. | [13:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron windows being more a problem of how it breaks peoples' heads than anything. plenty of people run eulora on windows to much less detriment that i've seen. | [13:16] |
| danielpbarron: | yes that's what i mean | [13:38] |
| danielpbarron: | Birdman uses winbl0wz but from what i can tell he at least recognizes its shortcomings | [13:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | dat chick never said anything huh. | [13:39] |
| danielpbarron: | which one, i can try again? | [13:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | the nekkid one, a something | [13:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | some camho. | [13:40] |
| danielpbarron: | it's easy to miss mentions on twatter when you're kinda popular | [13:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | a | [13:40] |
| danielpbarron: | i think i know who, the "psychonaught" ? | [13:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | i'm sure she's hounded | [13:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | well i have nfi now ;/ | [13:40] |
| hanbot: | <Birdman> hanbot what resources do you find at that spot < rf, rr, some grass/wpl/wwb/sr. rarely, sg. | [13:45] |
| Birdman: | thanks | [13:46] |
| hanbot: | <mircea_popescu> AUCTION : selling one stack CFT bp, q 201, opening 3.5mn. eta 17:00 ART tomorrow. << i'll bite, 3.5m. | [14:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | AUCTION : selling one stack CFT bp, q 201, 3.5mn heard hanbot . eta 17:00 ART tomorrow. | [14:35] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron> diana_coman, aha bit did you order it when you saw it? I had updated the page before you said in here but i'll do 100k worth for ya <- well, as I said: if you still sell them at that price; I'm around so let me know if I can come to collect the ppb, woa | [15:27] |
| danielpbarron: | i'm around, in town currently | [15:29] |
| diana_coman: | omw | [15:30] |
| diana_coman: | ready danielpbarron | [15:32] |
| danielpbarron: | 50*60000+500*7500 = 6750000 | [15:33] |
| diana_coman: | do you have change? | [15:33] |
| diana_coman: | thanks! | [15:34] |
| danielpbarron: | ty | [15:34] |
| danielpbarron: | that was a fast 5 minutes | [16:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm ? | [16:05] |
| danielpbarron: | nevermind i guess time just flies by when you're messing with storage | [16:06] |
| diana_coman: | server back on; enjoy | [16:13] |
| danielpbarron: | best part of wednesday reset day is the storage works so much faster :D | [16:19] |
| danielpbarron: | is almost unusable just before | [16:20] |
| diana_coman: | o.o how is that exactly danielpbarron ? | [16:20] |
| diana_coman: | I never noticed any problem with storage | [16:20] |
| Birdman: | the game unclogs or something every wednesday? | [16:20] |
| Birdman: | i noticed some extra lag today | [16:21] |
| danielpbarron: | it takes like 5 seconds for each withdraw type action like switching tabs or taking items | [16:21] |
| diana_coman: | weird | [16:21] |
| danielpbarron: | after reset it's nearly instantaneous | [16:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | possibly client issue ? some sort of cache or w/e ? | [16:26] |
| jurov: | no it pretty much goes to server for every click in storage/merchant | [17:21] |
| jurov: | Passing XML to and fro. | [17:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm. | [17:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | this needs to be looked into fo sho. | [17:22] |
| zakorus123: | hey guys | [17:43] |
| Birdman: | hello | [17:44] |
| zakorus123: | is jurov around? | [17:45] |
| zakorus123: | birdman u willing to trade 1mil coppers for .01 btc | [17:46] |
| zakorus123: | ? | [17:46] |
| Birdman: | send me .01 btc for 1mn copper? | [17:46] |
| zakorus123: | im selling the coppers i mean | [17:46] |
| Birdman: | oh, nah | [17:47] |
| zakorus123: | ok | [17:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah dja buy too much ? | [17:47] |
| zakorus123: | yea | [17:47] |
| zakorus123: | i have too much now | [17:47] |
| zakorus123: | lol | [17:47] |
| Birdman: | no such thing! | [17:48] |
| zakorus123: | hbu mircea | [17:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | i guess if jurov dun show up i'll have to make more merchants or something huh. | [17:48] |
| zakorus123: | i dont need this much at this point | [17:48] |
| zakorus123: | yea | [17:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | is too lazy to fire up node connection for a bitcent | [17:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | though if you stick around mebbe a player so inclined shows up | [17:49] |
| zakorus123: | ok | [17:49] |
| hanbot: | zakorus123, I'll buy your million. | [17:57] |
| zakorus123: | ok cool | [17:57] |
| hanbot: | Trade in game. | [17:57] |
| zakorus123: | :) | [17:57] |
| zakorus123: | im in town | [17:57] |
| hanbot: | at -10 -137 please. | [17:58] |
| zakorus123: | 1PRnA8FdNCSyHt5US9tf5EsAx4U8ogZeAT | [17:58] |
| zakorus123: | ok | [17:58] |
| zakorus123: | oops | [18:00] |
| zakorus123: | wrong coords | [18:00] |
| zakorus123: | coming | [18:00] |
| hanbot: | k | [18:00] |
| zakorus123: | grenadine correct? | [18:01] |
| zakorus123: | thats you right? | [18:02] |
| zakorus123: | send to | [18:02] |
| zakorus123: | 1PRnA8FdNCSyHt5US9tf5EsAx4U8ogZeAT | [18:02] |
| hanbot: | Sent! | [18:03] |
| zakorus123: | recieved | [18:03] |
| zakorus123: | ty | [18:03] |
| hanbot: | ty! | [18:03] |
| danielpbarron: | bout to do a run of 45 woa using : q266 snakeskin, q238 flagon, q45 ppb, q313 blueprints | [18:46] |
| danielpbarron: | bout to do a run of 45 woa using : q266 snakeskin, q238 flagon, q112* ppb, q313 blueprints | [18:47] |
| danielpbarron: | bundle comes out 194 | [18:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | nb | [18:50] |
| danielpbarron: | nearly 3 hours worth, one samovar | [18:50] |
| danielpbarron: | water comes out q243 | [18:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | pretty sweet water | [18:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | btw can you make the other thing, what was it | [18:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | remembrance potion | [18:54] |
| Birdman: | isnt that the woa? | [18:54] |
| danielpbarron: | oh right, yeah i can do that | [18:55] |
| danielpbarron: | no water is a different thing | [18:55] |
| danielpbarron: | water is for going from feelings to sentiments; tincture is for going from sentiments to aspirations | [18:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | so can you make like 5 ? | [18:58] |
| danielpbarron: | i'll see if i can make a bunch of it and get it listed in my shop | [19:00] |
| danielpbarron: | stuff uses ampoules (the liquid container made by lapidary) | [19:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | aha. | [19:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | im gonna be selling some ampoules later once done with gt | [19:03] |
| danielpbarron: | so far this craft is making a delightfully ~small~ amount of numina | [19:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [19:22] |
| danielpbarron: | 9 waters done, 168 lints looted | [19:23] |
| danielpbarron: | that's like 4k coppers not ending up in the waters, or 453.6 per water | [19:24] |
| danielpbarron: | which is about 1.52 percent of the value of a water | [19:28] |
| danielpbarron: | i propose the hypothesis that increasing rank relates to reducing this percent | [19:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm | [19:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | clearly if you use you know, 10\% in bps and only produce 1\% in numina, you're really eating down the numina stocks. | [19:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | i mean, it's true that the cons take other things besides numina ; but they also output other things besides bps. | [19:40] |
| danielpbarron: | well good, the numina stocks need eating down | [19:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | im curious if we'll manage to end up in a position where no more bps and no more numina :D | [19:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | the cons death of the euloraverse | [19:48] |
| danielpbarron: | and that's when no more bouquinist cons? | [19:48] |
| Birdman: | well i over crafter a bunch of em to no avail | [19:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah there';s also that huh. | [19:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | btw danielpbarron how much for the altar bps! | [19:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | how about this plan : we create eulora's first corporation! you me an' hanbot. you put the bps in ; i craft 'em ; then we sell the product - for auction! - and we split the profits. | [19:52] |
| danielpbarron: | eh | [19:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | what ? | [19:53] |
| danielpbarron: | i want all the altars from my blueprins | [19:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | ok, but then you get to qualify this "i want" in money. | [19:56] |
| danielpbarron: | i want rock double distilates, and gumboist considerations | [19:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | i dun see the matter solving otherwise ; i mean... i'm making the gins etc, but... | [19:58] |
| danielpbarron: | if there can't be more of those things I don't see what having more altars would solve | [19:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | more of which things ?\ | [19:59] |
| danielpbarron: | i mean i have tokens enough for any 2nd tier or greater considerations | [20:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | i thought they all took the same | [20:01] |
| danielpbarron: | well i want 2nd level gumbo ones, and all bouq i guess | [20:01] |
| Birdman: | master considerations | [20:02] |
| Birdman: | barehand all day for grass >> gets ~ 200 threads worth of grass | [21:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | o.O | [21:15] |
| Birdman: | yes not too good | [21:27] |
| hanbot: | danielpbarron so if i may extrapolate a little here, you're pricing the possibility (???) of there never being more altars otherwise introduced @ ? | [21:41] |
| danielpbarron: | no | [21:42] |
| danielpbarron: | on the waters i ended up with 31 and 538 numina at 243 quality, and 14 and 229 at 244 | [21:45] |
| danielpbarron: | 538/31 = 17.35 , 229/14 = 16.36 | [21:45] |
| danielpbarron: | less numina per water on the higher quality | [21:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | interesting | [21:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, actually no, that's expected : less numina cause more q | [21:46] |
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