#eulora Logs for 21 May 2016


May 21st, 2016 by Diana Coman
alikim: danielpbarron: I'd like to buy 420 cft q114, 256 * 420 = 107 520 [03:45]
diana_coman: hi Framedragger [08:43]
Framedragger: hello! [08:44]
Framedragger: i've been sorta following eulora news but for now consider me a 100\% lurker; i may attempt to play some time later :) [08:44]
diana_coman: heh, no worries; you might still want to get yourself an account anyway [08:45]
alikim: mircea_popescu: do you have any cft for sale? [10:25]
mircea_popescu: you're not following the logs, are you. [11:19]
alikim: I am why? [11:19]
mircea_popescu: http://logs.minigame.bz/2016-05-20.log.html#t17:29:16 etc. [11:19]
lobbesbot: Title: #Eulora log for Friday, 2016-05-20 (at logs.minigame.bz) [11:19]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION : 1 stack lbn, q 339, 2mn heard diana_coman eta 17:00 ART [11:20]
mircea_popescu: bout 5 hours left. [11:20]
alikim: maybe you already got "moar grass", I wouldn't know [11:20]
mircea_popescu: yeah, doesn't seem too likely atm. [11:21]
alikim: ok, danielpbarron is not here, there is nothing I can do without cfts... [11:24]
mircea_popescu: well, "nothing" [11:24]
mircea_popescu: there's always something. [11:24]
diana_coman: alikim, I might be able to help you, what q are you after? [11:24]
alikim: I guess 100 and above [11:26]
alikim: although if you have lower I'll buy as well for tests [11:27]
diana_coman: I should have some ~32q let me see [11:27]
diana_coman: q4, q32; only 104 threads at q109 [11:29]
diana_coman: alikim, ^ [11:29]
alikim: ok I'll buy all [11:30]
diana_coman: all of the 104q I gather, ok [11:30]
diana_coman: 109q, ugh [11:30]
alikim: in this game you never know before you test, q32 could be a motherload [11:31]
diana_coman: well, you can test, why not; more generically the point is that you experiment until you figure out the underlying mechanisms [11:31]
diana_coman: anyway, trade [11:32]
alikim: how much? [11:32]
alikim: do you have many q32? [11:33]
diana_coman: alikim, 104*180*1.09*1.35 [11:33]
diana_coman: 27.5k [11:33]
alikim: thanks! [11:34]
diana_coman: some 6k at 32q alikim [11:34]
diana_coman: yw [11:34]
alikim: ok I'll buy a few of those too then [11:34]
diana_coman: well, how many is a few, lol [11:35]
alikim: 300*180*0.32*1.35=23328 [11:36]
diana_coman: ok, 1 min [11:38]
diana_coman: gl [11:39]
alikim: thank you! [11:39]
alikim: yeah, happy botting [11:40]
mircea_popescu: lol Framedragger lots to read eh. [11:42]
Framedragger: yeah tell me about it .... [12:03]
Birdman: i need cft pretty bad as well [12:35]
Birdman: been manually locking smalls every few hours [12:36]
diana_coman: Birdman, q4 and q32 available; other than that, I'll gladly buy your grass and sell you back the resulting cft [12:36]
Birdman: have no grass [12:36]
diana_coman: so go get [12:36]
Birdman: have low quality maculature? [12:36]
diana_coman: will check [12:37]
Birdman: cause i can shred alot of low q bits and wouldnt mind setting it on grass [12:37]
Birdman: but not wasting my heaps of high quality maculture [12:38]
diana_coman: lol, not that badly wanting cft then I guess [12:38]
Birdman: less you people want to pay 200\% on my grass at q200 [12:39]
diana_coman: I think daniel also sells cft though [12:39]
diana_coman: lol, nope [12:39]
Birdman: exactly [12:39]
alikim: diana_coman: you have about 6k q32 available, right? [12:39]
diana_coman: yes alikim [12:40]
Birdman: danielpbarron i'll buy out your stock of cft [12:42]
mircea_popescu: grass q 200 would prolly produce q 250ish cft in my hands. taking the grass 60 * 3 * 2.00 * 2 = 720 and the bps 11 * 2 * 18 = 396 and adding a 10\% profit 0.1 * 180 * 2.5 = 45 it comes out that the cost for a 450 ECu cft is 1161 or 258\% [12:47]
mircea_popescu: you paying that for cft q 250 Birdman ? [12:47]
Birdman: nah why would i? [12:48]
mircea_popescu: so then ... [12:48]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile the same calculation with grass at 115 comes to... 190\% per cft. [12:49]
Birdman: would you burn maculture with q87 bps making q89 bits and tons of crappy numina, after paying well over 200\% on all parts included, or burn your q450 bits on grass that goes for 115\%, where you burned bps to get these? [12:50]
mircea_popescu: well yeah, but the problem is burning bps for bits is, i'm pretty sure, a rather lossy proposition [12:50]
Birdman: its a good idea for down the road, whenever some high quality SI get looted [12:51]
mircea_popescu: i mean you know, irl you could also make soap by burning your mother in lye, but it's unlikely the soap would sell for what she cost. [12:51]
Birdman: right, i guess. so the point being im not gettin grass anytime soon without low quality, cheap maculture [12:52]
alikim: diana_coman: I'll buy 1k for 77760 [12:52]
alikim: 180*0.32*1.35*1000 [12:55]
Birdman: danielpbarron hanbot what is the base value on some grotesque tokens and what are you selling them for [13:07]
diana_coman: Birdman, you know it's your problem through and through, not as if someone is asking you to go get grass; it's you asking for cft and people offer you the options to which you say "not unless you do x and y"... [13:09]
Birdman: i dont see any difference [13:09]
Birdman: i wasnt trying to be snarky [13:09]
diana_coman: alikim, ok, in 2 min [13:09]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i'll buy at 135\% also! [13:10]
diana_coman: the low q mircea_popescu ? [13:10]
mircea_popescu: sure. [13:10]
diana_coman: lol, ok [13:10]
mircea_popescu: i can rectify it if i make bottles or w/e [13:10]
diana_coman: poor noobs [13:10]
alikim: oh boy [13:10]
alikim: I'll buy 2k then, tomorrow nothing will be left [13:11]
mircea_popescu: well buy w/e you're buying an' ill buy teh rest. [13:11]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, do you want the q4? [13:12]
diana_coman: alikim, trade me [13:12]
alikim: omw [13:12]
mircea_popescu: sure. [13:12]
diana_coman: uhm, alikim 2k cft, not 1k [13:13]
diana_coman: cool, enjoy [13:13]
alikim: thanks! [13:14]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, mind leaving it for a bit later (~2.5 hours)? [13:14]
diana_coman: it's set aside for you, won't vanish [13:14]
mircea_popescu: no rush [13:15]
alikim: <diana_coman> uhm, alikim 2k cft, not 1k << yeah, I know, just typed 77760 twice, too lazy to calculate ;) [13:16]
alikim: why suddenly cfts are so in demand? the last game update? [13:17]
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, 2.1 mn the bits [13:17]
Birdman: maybe, im getting more smalls than ever [13:17]
danielpbarron: alikim, i'm afk but i'll sell you threads when i get back [13:17]
Birdman: and probably because since the quality changing update we've all been doing other things than getting grass [13:18]
danielpbarron: Birdman, i can also sell you threads; is 5k too many? [13:18]
alikim: danielpbarron: maybe tomorrow then it's 3am and I'm done for today [13:18]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION : 1 stack lbn, q 339, 2.1mn heard danielpbarron eta 17:00 ART [13:18]
Birdman: danielpbarron i want to buy them all per shop price [13:18]
Birdman: unless you have an obscene amount [13:18]
danielpbarron: all is 5k right now [13:19]
mircea_popescu: alikim possibly cuz i said i've no more / lots sold recently / high demand from miners for the past months [13:19]
Birdman: works [13:19]
mircea_popescu: i personally wiped two stacks the past week. that's a shitton of grass, which had been accumulating, but mostly last year [13:20]
mircea_popescu: anyway, maybe danielpbarron finally digs up his sizable ? :D [13:20]
alikim: danielpbarron: if you can set aside 420 I asked for before Birdman pecks them all, it'd be nice, I'll buy tomorrow [13:20]
Birdman: ^ hah good point, electron has sizeable bundles [13:21]
mircea_popescu: with any luck it's a billion or so grass and we're set. [13:21]
Birdman: q200+ enumeration too iirc [13:22]
mircea_popescu: anyway, i guess i'ma going to update my shop. [13:22]
Birdman: that guy has the best leaving messages [13:26]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/eulora-shop/ << major changes. [13:48]
lobbesbot: Title: Eulora Shop on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. (at trilema.com) [13:48]
Birdman: all blueprints even really low q mircea_popescu ? [14:02]
mircea_popescu: yeah. [14:02]
Birdman: sweet [14:02]
Birdman: not payin more than 30\% for wwb huh?? [14:04]
mircea_popescu: hm ? [14:04]
Birdman: thats what you told me a day or two ago lol [14:04]
Birdman: now its 180\% [14:04]
danielpbarron: that was zen; this is tao. [14:07]
mircea_popescu: :d [14:10]
Birdman: heh, imma make bit over 100k selling you back these ngc [14:21]
Birdman: oh nevermind no im not [14:21]
mircea_popescu: hahaha [14:21]
mircea_popescu: anyway, his worship danielpbarron understands the things! [14:22]
diana_coman: AUCTION: 30 ICH 49812 durability, 3.8mn heard Birdman ; eta 8pm gmt 21 May 2016 <- ~1hour left [14:46]
diana_coman: and lol re 0.05 increase accepted now on bids [14:48]
diana_coman: will leave it at that then [14:48]
mircea_popescu: 5\% what ! [14:50]
mircea_popescu: anyway ima bbls! [14:50]
diana_coman: want your q4 thread? [14:50]
mircea_popescu: aite [14:50]
mircea_popescu: what's tyhe damage ? [14:50]
diana_coman: neah, 180*0.04*1.35*1000 = 9700 [14:51]
mircea_popescu: was i getting tons moar or was the whole thing 1k ? [14:51]
diana_coman: I did not have tons moar of q4, no [14:51]
diana_coman: there is still the q32 though, if you can wait 2 min [14:52]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, trade? [14:53]
diana_coman: danielpbarron, I'll buy 20 waters of anamnesia please [14:56]
diana_coman: Birdman, lowest q maculature I have is 73q, 54 of them [14:57]
Birdman: 684 ACG q9; 1084 bhp q6; 1678 bhp q11; 5 bfc q37; 426 bbbr q9; 78 bbbr q5; 132 bn&gr q9; 445 bedroll q6; 320 bedroll q13; 97 cfth q31; 4 cs q12; 203 cc q21; 2634 craft table q29; 272 harness q34; 4 ddl q37; 331 ecv q39; 5 gst q48; 59 gst q6; 323 io q37; 9900 ibs q37; 5 cheese q36; 343 pigment q11, 85 q139, 35 q222, 136 q129; 175 screwdriver q9, 121 q16; 4 eggnog q258, 20 q27, 38 q140; 48 omlette q12; 26 clogs [15:13]
Birdman: q13; 2083 hauberk q7; 34 rockpile q16; 1874 srs q52; 1657 mockasillies q6; 8940 flatbreak q5; 1 tuber milk q37; 209 tuber tea q10; 224 tincture q9 base value according to eulorum and the 10\% rule on bps is 1531 [15:13]
Birdman: and definitely have another two stacks of srs q156 but hesitant to sell any shredding bps [15:13]
Birdman: mircea_popescu ^ for whenever you get back [15:13]
Birdman: diana_coman what did you want for them [15:13]
Birdman: danielpbarron you around for those threads [15:14]
diana_coman: 8940 flatbreak <- ahahahahh [15:14]
Birdman: heh whats so funny about that [15:15]
Birdman: also, i found two ords today i guess! [15:15]
Birdman: barehanding [15:15]
diana_coman: flatbreaD Birdman , not break, but sounded funny for a break to be ...flat [15:23]
Birdman: ahh [15:25]
Birdman: think a locked tiny will stay for a day? [15:25]
diana_coman: no idea [15:29]
Birdman: well lets hope so! [15:33]
Birdman: i think things tend to not disappear while people are around it [15:33]
Birdman: not sure about claims, but i feel they disappear quicker after being used [15:33]
Birdman: diana_coman how much for those maculture? [15:44]
diana_coman: claims should NOT vanish while they are GUARDED [15:45]
diana_coman: let me know if they do [15:45]
diana_coman: will have to figure out the price on the maculature [15:45]
Birdman: ah thats why i see my claims sticking around while im near em [15:45]
danielpbarron: diana_coman> danielpbarron, I'll buy 20 waters of anamnesia please << ok 20 comin' up! [15:47]
danielpbarron: ready for pickup in town at your convenience [15:47]
diana_coman: omw [15:47]
danielpbarron: Birdman> danielpbarron you around for those threads << yes [15:49]
Birdman: are you going to that ss spot after danielpbarron ? [15:49]
Birdman: im near there gathering if you can come meet [15:49]
diana_coman: in town danielpbarron [15:49]
danielpbarron: 20*50000 = 1000000 [15:50]
diana_coman: thanks! [15:50]
danielpbarron: ty [15:50]
danielpbarron: Birdman, i don't see you [15:52]
Birdman: at tlc be right there [15:52]
diana_coman: ha, 399q bundle, quite curious how it goes [15:53]
danielpbarron: on a toil diana_coman ? [15:53]
diana_coman: yes [15:53]
Birdman: im there i think danielpbarron [15:53]
diana_coman: although 21 sentiments is pitifully small amount compared to the 99 taken by cons [15:54]
Birdman: ty [15:56]
danielpbarron: ty [15:56]
danielpbarron: that's like 56k in base value diana_coman [15:59]
diana_coman: myeah [16:00]
danielpbarron: i bet they'd sell for 2x though [16:01]
diana_coman: AUCTION: 30 ICH 49812 durability, 3.8mn heard Birdman <- sold [16:35]
diana_coman: <danielpbarron> i bet they'd sell for 2x though <- well, given that I paid 50k for 1 woa and then there were 999 high q feelings going in AND the toil bps which are hard to even evaluate properly, it's unclear [16:38]
diana_coman: I mean: it's not that clear whether 2x is any good even [16:38]
Birdman: awesome thanks, hold them for awhile? [16:38]
diana_coman: well, until tomorrow, so some 24 hours [16:38]
Birdman: kk [16:39]
Birdman: not sure what i want to use em on, probably bbb [17:00]
Birdman: might want to dump my bb for 180\% too [17:01]
mircea_popescu: Birdman alright. [22:14]
mircea_popescu: AUCTION : 1 stack lbn, q 339, 2.1mn heard danielpbarron eta 17:00 ART << sold! [22:15]
mircea_popescu: so diana_coman 50k for a water + 1k feelings + say another 20k for the bp or so -> 21 sentiments [22:17]
mircea_popescu: thus therefore whatever the mark-up for sentiments is, there's an extra ~4k or 40\% for sentiments ? [22:18]
mircea_popescu: ie, for 120\% feelings, sentiments should be 160\% ? [22:18]
mircea_popescu: or no wait, sentiments are 1k each not 10k each. 400\%. jesus rly ? [22:18]
Birdman: mircea_popescu you around to get them now? [22:27]
mircea_popescu: aha [22:27]
Birdman: tee hee? [22:29]
mircea_popescu: hm ? [22:29]
Birdman: idk lol, you want them bps? [22:30]
mircea_popescu: yes ? [22:30]
Birdman: kk let me take em out of the claims quick [22:30]
mircea_popescu: i ain't goin' anywhere. [22:31]
mircea_popescu: hmmm weird, you're invisible ? [22:31]
mircea_popescu: i just see the bags popping [22:32]
mircea_popescu: a there you are [22:32]
mircea_popescu: under my samovar window lol [22:32]
Birdman: mircea_popescu watch out as some will mix [22:34]
mircea_popescu: ic [22:34]
Birdman: the screwdrivers, pigments, eggnogs, bedrolls and some others [22:34]
Birdman: pick up at your leisure [22:37]
mircea_popescu: oh it's like that huh. [22:37]
mircea_popescu: hey, nice pick, you placed them so like 20\% are out of my reach. [22:38]
mircea_popescu: how'd that work! [22:38]
Birdman: ahh sorry! ill bring them closer [22:38]
mircea_popescu: lemme piuck ujo what i can first [22:39]
mircea_popescu: aaaaaaa [22:39]
Birdman: guess trading load by load woulda worked best [22:39]
mircea_popescu: ok now [22:40]
hanbot: hey btw mircea_popescu i'd like to sell some itams on yer new shop prices too, here's the wagonload: [22:40]
mircea_popescu: o.O [22:40]
mircea_popescu: check it out, economy is moving nao! [22:40]
hanbot: 6587 q70 sm (6587*157*.7*1.8 = 1303040), 807 ss q56 (807k + 807*1165*.56*2 = 1859973), 520 dm q1191(5029408), 433 dm q562(3116976), 260 spent regular tools (260 * 4000=1040000), 77 st q1233(2119716), 1116 sb q338 (1116*58*3.38*1.5=328171), 2963 sb q189 (2983*58*1.89*1.5=490494) total = 15287778 [22:40]
mircea_popescu: whoa check that out! [22:41]
mircea_popescu: you're on hanbot. trade me. [22:41]
mircea_popescu: Birdman yo. [22:41]
hanbot: kk [22:41]
mircea_popescu: hanbot carerful not to mix dm etc ; do 2 trades [22:42]
mircea_popescu: trade Birdman [22:43]
Birdman: mircea_popescu they're there [22:43]
Birdman: i've no change, accept and 1 sec? [22:44]
Birdman: mircea_popescu that * 5 [22:44]
Birdman: for the 500\% [22:44]
mircea_popescu: you'll gotta do teh pricing better eh. [22:45]
Birdman: whatcha mean? [22:45]
hanbot: mircea_popescu yeah, won't be a-mixin' [22:46]
Birdman: thank you! [22:46]
mircea_popescu: i mean when you quote a price, you quote a price. you don't ever end up in the situation where you have to spring a "that x y" in the middle of a trade. [22:46]
mircea_popescu: trade hanbot [22:46]
mircea_popescu: wow nice high q branches too. [22:49]
mircea_popescu: shall make some cs i guess. [22:50]
mircea_popescu: yee [22:52]
hanbot: splendid, thanks! [22:52]
Birdman: sorry bout that [23:00]

  1. 520 * 5000 = 2600000)+(520*1.19*1963*2=2429408 ↩

  2. 433 * 5000 = 2165000)+(433*.56*1963*2=951976 ↩

  3. 77 * 15000=1155000)+(964716 ↩

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