| alikim: | WTS: BB 6 q144, WWB 200 q139, WWB 167 q8, WWB 244 q141, WPL 366 q141, WPL 330 q11, WPL 264 q138, SR 110 q17, SR 22 q164, SB 103 q23, SB 17 q177, SB 19 q140 | [05:43] |
| alikim: | (197 * 6 * 144 + 141 * 200 * 139 + 141 * 167 * 8 + 141 * 244 * 141 + 152 * 366 * 141 + 152 * 330 * 11 + 152 * 264 * 138) * 130 * 0.0001 + (79 * 110 * 17 + 79 * 22 * 164 + 58 * 103 * 23 + 58 * 17 * 177 + 58 * 19 * 140) * 115 * 0.0001 = 310155 | [05:43] |
| alikim: | mircea_popescu: let me know if you'd like to buy | [05:47] |
| danielpbarron: | alikim, what's the markup on that? | [06:44] |
| alikim: | danielpbarron: mu is in the price calculations | [06:56] |
| danielpbarron: | oh is it 115\% ? | [07:21] |
| danielpbarron: | what is 0.0001 ? | [07:22] |
| alikim: | 115\% on basics 130\% on advanced | [07:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | alikim sure,\ | [10:33] |
| alikim: | kk, making table | [10:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | you know you can just put them in trade. | [10:40] |
| alikim: | I dont want to lock up trade window for long | [10:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | why noit ? | [10:42] |
| alikim: | takes a long time to transfer heavy mats, maybe you want to do something else meanwhile or trade someone else | [10:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | aite. | [10:44] |
| alikim: | done | [10:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | hit me | [10:45] |
| alikim: | items are in table | [10:47] |
| diana_coman: | AUCTION: 30 ICH 49812 durability, opening 3.8mn; eta 8pm gmt 21 May 2016 | [10:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | o look at him, q around 100 now., nb | [10:48] |
| diana_coman: | Birdman, danielpbarron hanbot anyone else interested in tools/ich ^ | [10:48] |
| alikim: | mircea_popescu: doesn't mean I profit much but yeah, sold almost everything below q100 | [10:49] |
| alikim: | I can push q180 on basics but it's a loss | [10:49] |
| diana_coman: | soo, some data on the ich run, for each ICH got costs at a minimum of 41k the bp, 28.5 the decay for the pesky BMS and about 40k the bundle itself; this without considering of course the actual real problem of getting all needed resources in the first place | [10:49] |
| diana_coman: | still, I gotta say that it's 300 q ICH there basically | [10:50] |
| diana_coman: | which are truly a pleasure to use otherwise, did a run with them and I'd gladly use them all | [10:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | :D | [10:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | interesting how this all works out in the end. 1300\% bps ? | [10:50] |
| diana_coman: | now, if only I would get to make the remaining 900 or so of them, lol | [10:51] |
| diana_coman: | need tons and tons of flotsam ofc + I will probably run out of high q slag bps which helped me get that 300q out of worn-out hoes | [10:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | heh | [10:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | got a bunch of q 7 slag bps o.O | [10:53] |
| diana_coman: | ugh, I have loads of all sorts LOW Q bps, thank you very much | [10:54] |
| diana_coman: | they are actually helpful to get loads of loot out of my high q resources, but then only if you need the low q stuff | [10:54] |
| alikim: | if I manage to make basics profitable I could gather some ~q180 if there is a demand | [10:54] |
| diana_coman: | I gave gax 3 cdg to just test what q he gets out and he ended up with ...93 thread | [10:55] |
| diana_coman: | alikim, I'd buy flotsam and grass at 180q for sure, pretty much any quantity really | [10:55] |
| alikim: | ok | [10:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | 93 thread not bad is it ? | [10:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | o wait, that's QUANTITY ? | [10:58] |
| diana_coman: | ha, so ich at 49812 durability but storage says 48361 coppers each; outrageous! | [10:58] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, quantity, they were q2 | [10:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman you don't know why that is, do you diana_coman ? :D | [10:58] |
| diana_coman: | no : | [10:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | that's why the imps are imps : you spend resources to get 48361, but it mines worth 49812. they're 49812÷48361 = 3\% more efficient than the basics. | [11:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | considering they were introduced A YEAR AGO and i have to explain it myself, YOU PEOPLE SUCK AT PLAYING! | [11:00] |
| diana_coman: | definitely | [11:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | estimates that there's about 10 to 100 centuries worth of gameplay at the present rate before playerbase peak catches up with the whole game. playerbase mean/average undefined even. | [11:03] |
| diana_coman: | thinks that catching up with mircea_popescu's estimates might take even longer :p | [11:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [11:04] |
| jurov: | if the target keeps moving like so far did, then never | [11:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | well that's the job of the developer/publisher, to keep moving it so it never happens. that's the ideal game, where they keep adding so you keep playing. | [11:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | historically to date this has never yet happened, though wow perhaps got close. | [11:06] |
| jurov: | and i should prolly stfu, i basically gave up, for me i't not possible to just do it in background :( | [11:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | why not ?! | [11:07] |
| jurov: | i'm distracted by it, even if it's necessary to check the bot like once per hour | [11:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | hahaha too immersive ? | [11:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | grins | [11:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | you know, we've improved it a lot with diana_coman ; at least imo both mining and crafting much more interesting than last year. | [11:09] |
| diana_coman: | jurov, maybe just leave it on during the night while you sleep? | [11:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | maybe he can't sleep if it's running | [11:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | keeps waking up to check for pops :D | [11:10] |
| diana_coman: | check it in the morning, turn it off if you have to, spend another 15 minutes in the evening to set it up and that's it | [11:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | from which we see diana_coman has no idea how cocaine works. | [11:10] |
| diana_coman: | heh | [11:10] |
| jurov: | yes that, i can't sleep for many trivial stuff | [11:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | jurov i honestly lost some sleep this way myself. some things are fucking exciting. | [11:11] |
| jurov: | also, such playing style is feasible only if you put multiple coins in there and buy stuff | [11:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol check him out, he has billion copper coins with some regularity :D | [11:11] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu> from which we see diana_coman has no idea how cocaine works. <- well, it works for some, it doesn't quite work same for others, even that | [11:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | time for you to start doing the tradegoods j :D | [11:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman yeah, dun do much for me either. but... people. | [11:11] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron, any higher q woa (and at what markup) coming out from the latest batch of bps? | [11:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | you short what, ladels ? | [11:14] |
| diana_coman: | more like TOO FULL OF low level numina | [11:15] |
| diana_coman: | and I got some high q low level numina that I'd try to convert to high q high level numina at least | [11:15] |
| danielpbarron: | i think my markup is fair. any imp hoes coming out at lower markup? | [11:15] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron, what's the link between the 2 really? | [11:15] |
| diana_coman: | I even set out the calculations for that | [11:16] |
| diana_coman: | and fwiw ich on mircea_popescu 's shop are at 300\% you'll find | [11:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | eh my shop's terribly out of date ; ill have to fix it. | [11:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | i can't even sell imps atm | [11:17] |
| diana_coman: | for one thing if you really are onto the thinking game, then maybe try to make it clearer to others as well how and why it is fair, might help | [11:18] |
| danielpbarron: | it's fair because they take a while to produce and I can still use them all myself | [11:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman i figure he uses bps just like you do, which seems a major cost driver neh | [11:19] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, by that measure everything should go at 210\% or more because it is fair | [11:19] |
| danielpbarron: | uhm,.. they do! | [11:20] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron, really? I think resources go at 115\% and 130\%, cft goes some 145\% etc | [11:20] |
| diana_coman: | anyway, I just asked 2 questions: any higher q? what markup? | [11:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | depends what, how rare bps are and how many involved. | [11:21] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu> diana_coman i figure he uses bps just like you do, which seems a major cost driver neh <- that might be, but I have no idea since he doesn't say anything about it | [11:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | i don't think this blanket pricing thing that worked historically more or less is long of this world. | [11:22] |
| diana_coman: | well yes, for sure | [11:22] |
| alikim: | danielpbarron: I'd like to buy cft bp q159, 2223 * 45 = 100 035 | [11:43] |
| danielpbarron: | k | [11:44] |
| danielpbarron: | ty | [11:47] |
| alikim: | ty | [11:47] |
| danielpbarron: | woah i "got loot" on a snakeskin tiny | [12:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | wd! | [12:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | nice stuff ? | [12:08] |
| danielpbarron: | i think it was just 1 extra but hey, I'll take it! | [12:09] |
| danielpbarron: | making quality 266 skins outa Birdman's 441 quality bits | [12:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | nb | [12:12] |
| Birdman: | my building is ranking up like no tomorrow and im hitting smalls like crazy lately | [13:18] |
| danielpbarron: | yeah that's the latest update | [13:20] |
| danielpbarron: | woah i found an ord in the last hour | [13:20] |
| danielpbarron: | first one since the previous update | [13:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | win. | [13:22] |
| Birdman: | awesome, but i ran out of threads so i'll have to periodically lock lines of em till i can buy more | [13:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | we're kinda badly out of threads ; i'm sold out | [13:29] |
| danielpbarron: | finally the threads run low! | [13:29] |
| danielpbarron: | cackles | [13:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | used like 20k making bottles ; sold like 30k at auction, that's that for me till i get moar grass. | [13:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron hehe you been stashing ? | [13:29] |
| danielpbarron: | yeah i got plenty for myself at least | [13:30] |
| danielpbarron: | threads and blueprints | [13:30] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu> we're kinda badly out of threads ; i'm sold out <- well, iirc I sold you loads of grass and then I got none of the thread as it went for high markup on auction; so not keen on selling grass at 115\% and then buy thread at 180\% or more , clearly better off making my own thread | [13:33] |
| diana_coman: | been focusing more on flotsam for the ich lately though | [13:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman there is that huh. | [13:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | so what'd you have in mind ? | [13:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | i thought you ended up with at least some of my threads tho. | [13:35] |
| diana_coman: | not as far as I recall really; last threads I have with your markup are from before the quality update | [13:36] |
| diana_coman: | I bought the lbn, true, but other story | [13:36] |
| diana_coman: | not sure re what to do , possibly it's more for noobs to pitch in and sell grass I guess | [13:37] |
| diana_coman: | I actually get the basics at 300 with your lbn | [13:38] |
| Birdman: | damn nice | [13:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah right. | [13:41] |
| Birdman: | with similar q bits it get ~q200 | [13:41] |
| diana_coman: | 285q bits Birdman | [13:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, part of the issue is that my cft comes out of a not-obviously-replaceable stash of q 200ish cft bps | [13:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | once im out of those it'll be even more painful | [13:42] |
| diana_coman: | more cons? | [13:42] |
| Birdman: | oh wow diana_coman, then i get well under q200 with that quality | [13:42] |
| diana_coman: | I did get cft bps out of cons | [13:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | what q ? | [13:42] |
| Birdman: | why are you not buying the highest q bits possible? any mark up you pay would be dwarfed by profits | [13:43] |
| diana_coman: | iirc 138q but I can certainly adjust that, it was one of earlier ones | [13:43] |
| diana_coman: | Birdman, it doesn't really work like that, no | [13:43] |
| diana_coman: | it diminishes really | [13:43] |
| Birdman: | it does though | [13:43] |
| diana_coman: | gain is not linear Birdman | [13:43] |
| danielpbarron: | i was getting quality 700+ basics for a long wile on my my 300+ quality threads | [13:44] |
| diana_coman: | well, I got those cft bps with a noob I mean | [13:44] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron, this was on lbn, not on thread | [13:44] |
| diana_coman: | that yes | [13:44] |
| diana_coman: | it's a different story on smalls/thread | [13:44] |
| danielpbarron: | i don't even do basic tinies | [13:44] |
| Birdman: | im not saying it is | [13:45] |
| danielpbarron: | i don't even do the less non-basic tinies | [13:45] |
| Birdman: | im saying if you're using bits lower quality than you're producing, especially as the master builder, you're missing out | [13:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman so im thinking q 200+ would be not trivial ? | [13:45] |
| diana_coman: | cool for you, I don't see why I'd throw away some 10\% or more of output, but it fine with me if others do | [13:45] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, I think it would be trivial but not same quantity | [13:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | aha. | [13:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | so waht'd you charge for one of these q 200 bps ? | [13:46] |
| diana_coman: | (i.e. with lower q cons I got that q but obviously not same quantity+ I need LOWER Q cons) | [13:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | wait you need lower q cons to get q higher than 138 ?! | [13:46] |
| diana_coman: | ugh, depends on what the cons costs me really | [13:46] |
| diana_coman: | yes because it would be ME clicking them | [13:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | wel lwhat do they go for, 500k or so ? | [13:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | more like 400k lately ? | [13:46] |
| danielpbarron: | well i still get the enums, and because otherwise my bot would stop after only a few hours | [13:46] |
| diana_coman: | I can't quite follow because of all the different qualities etc | [13:47] |
| diana_coman: | ah, my bot dumps stuff in claim, locks it, keeps going | [13:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | myeah. | [13:47] |
| diana_coman: | that's prolly the thing | [13:47] |
| diana_coman: | iirc when I calculated it was something like 2000\% bv on the bps I got, but again, this was quite some time ago and on 2 runs or some such | [13:48] |
| diana_coman: | ah, and at that time the tokens were going for 100k not 500k | [13:48] |
| diana_coman: | there is ALSO this now | [13:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | so then buying cft for 180\% on my high q bps after selling grass 115 is not so bad ? | [13:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | 65\% = 200g or so only. | [13:50] |
| diana_coman: | well, I still have LOADS of older bps really | [13:50] |
| diana_coman: | hence kind of not making any sense not to make my own cft | [13:50] |
| diana_coman: | lower q bps | [13:50] |
| diana_coman: | but when I get grass 300q | [13:50] |
| diana_coman: | really | [13:50] |
| diana_coman: | made some thread 261q without really trying | [13:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | cool. | [13:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | still, the thing here is that you have bps, not that the cft is too expensive. | [13:51] |
| diana_coman: | I'm not saying it's a bad deal for everyone basically, just not making sense for me atm | [13:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | ye | [13:51] |
| diana_coman: | the thing here being that selling my grass for 115\% makes even less sense when I can't buy cft to justify not making it myself (there would be the time for one thing + consuming my own bps to some extent) | [13:52] |
| diana_coman: | Birdman> im saying if you're using bits lower quality than you're producing, especially as the master builder, you're missing out <- don't quite follow this; work me through a concrete example maybe? | [13:54] |
| Birdman: | ppl pay moar 4 higher q stuff | [13:54] |
| diana_coman: | lolz Birdman I don't deny that one sec | [13:54] |
| Birdman: | alright then | [13:54] |
| diana_coman: | but you know, concrete example: lbn q that you'd get q that hence that gain while lbn q that etc | [13:54] |
| Birdman: | err what'd you pay for one bit you have now | [13:55] |
| diana_coman: | (not to mention so far on resources the \% kind of kept same) | [13:55] |
| Birdman: | who says the \% kept the same? | [13:55] |
| Birdman: | if thats the case may as well have a noob mine things | [13:55] |
| diana_coman: | only if you really need numbers, as otherwise percentage same, hence same value overall | [13:56] |
| diana_coman: | + enum ruins it basically | [13:56] |
| diana_coman: | + on tiny he'd still get 1 but lower q so really not a good idea | [13:56] |
| Birdman: | you know we already had this conversation i think | [13:57] |
| Birdman: | i was just amazed how well you build with those q quality bits | [13:57] |
| diana_coman: | slightly unrelated if everyone is barehanded gathering I guess I can quite surely state that I am probably highest in gathering too by now | [13:57] |
| Birdman: | oh yeah? | [13:58] |
| diana_coman: | iirc we had a convo along the lines "daniel wants to buy them, hence you should buy them too" " that's not an argument!" | [13:58] |
| Birdman: | definitely further than me but that was always true | [13:58] |
| Birdman: | lol, no. the argument was paying 2x for a bit to get more ecu value out of it is profitable, you just didnt like my arbitrary pricing | [13:59] |
| Birdman: | then go figure, mp's many auctions for lower quality bits are slightly cheaper \% over qabv than my pricing | [13:59] |
| diana_coman: | there is also a matter of quantity Birdman | [13:59] |
| danielpbarron: | well i'm not using those bits casually | [14:00] |
| Birdman: | i had about two stacks | [14:00] |
| danielpbarron: | i save 'em for things worth around 1k bv | [14:00] |
| danielpbarron: | like snakeskin which is surely a profit | [14:00] |
| danielpbarron: | ~500 copper in, ~3000 copper out or whatever | [14:00] |
| diana_coman: | I really did calculate and I do profit on anything (that's how I set out my max bid to start with really) | [14:00] |
| danielpbarron: | you mean min bid | [14:01] |
| diana_coman: | hence the "casual" use, but I guess yes, if I'd be running low, I'd be more selective | [14:01] |
| diana_coman: | uhm? | [14:01] |
| Birdman: | yeah but the point is you'd profit more | [14:01] |
| danielpbarron: | oh you mean when ~you're~ bidding | [14:01] |
| diana_coman: | yes | [14:01] |
| Birdman: | especially being the best builder | [14:01] |
| Birdman: | i lose quality with q bits you're using, where you gain quality | [14:02] |
| diana_coman: | Birdman> yeah but the point is you'd profit more <- how much more exactly, can you run the numbers here so we all see? | [14:03] |
| Birdman: | want some bits to test? | [14:03] |
| diana_coman: | if I pay higher markup on them, overall that might not work as you say, esp since the increase in q I get is *not linear* | [14:03] |
| Birdman: | yeah | [14:04] |
| diana_coman: | what q do you have and what are you selling them for? | [14:04] |
| Birdman: | oh they're not for sale anymore | [14:04] |
| diana_coman: | lol, so then what are we talking about here? | [14:04] |
| Birdman: | we could work somethin out if you have S | [14:04] |
| Birdman: | SI | [14:04] |
| Birdman: | what we cant talk about it without me offering to sell some | [14:05] |
| diana_coman: | without concrete numbers! | [14:05] |
| diana_coman: | q500 != q1500 | [14:05] |
| Birdman: | the quality difference for me, where im ~already~ losing quality, my q331 bits i get ~ q180 basics, level 14 sortage, level 200 building or so, when i use only q415 bits, im getting over q200 | [14:06] |
| diana_coman: | hm, so you gain 20q points in grass for 80q points in bits | [14:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | ouchies. | [14:28] |
| diana_coman: | that's what, some ...12 coppers more in grass bv or 14 market value, quite ouch indeed | [14:29] |
| diana_coman: | how is that proving your point Birdman ? | [14:29] |
| Birdman: | you'd gain more, and would hopefully be hitting rares | [14:30] |
| Birdman: | or mostly non basics | [14:30] |
| Birdman: | you're the self proclaimed master gatherer too | [14:30] |
| diana_coman: | Birdman, I gather you are not interested in those ich? | [14:49] |
| Birdman: | ich? | [14:49] |
| Birdman: | hoes ? | [14:49] |
| diana_coman: | http://logs.minigame.bz/latest.log.html#t14:47:58 | [14:49] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: #Eulora log for Friday, 2016-05-20 (at logs.minigame.bz) | [14:49] |
| diana_coman: | yes | [14:50] |
| diana_coman: | improved | [14:50] |
| Birdman: | whats the bid at now? | [14:50] |
| diana_coman: | nobody bid so far | [14:50] |
| Birdman: | it is pretty pricy | [14:51] |
| Birdman: | what their base value? | [14:51] |
| diana_coman: | I gave the numbers right below that | [14:51] |
| Birdman: | ill bid 3.8 mn on em | [14:52] |
| diana_coman: | AUCTION: 30 ICH 49812 durability, 3.8mn heard Birdman ; eta 8pm gmt 21 May 2016 | [14:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | so i take it i should auction more bits ? | [15:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | AUCTION : 1 stack lbn, q 339, opening... what was it, 2mn ? eta 17:00 ART | [15:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | ie tomorrow in ten minutes. | [15:53] |
| Gaxaro: | Hmm i cannot use the mirc client anymore | [16:38] |
| Gaxaro: | I only have register or exit now. | [16:38] |
| Gaxaro: | So i am on the web at the moment. | [16:38] |
| diana_coman: | hi Gaxaro | [16:43] |
| Gaxaro: | Hey there. | [16:43] |
| diana_coman: | are you back in game | [16:43] |
| diana_coman: | ? | [16:43] |
| Gaxaro: | Yes i am. | [16:43] |
| Gaxaro: | Was gonna do grass as you told me. | [16:44] |
| Gaxaro: | Anyway, i cannot use the mirc client anymore for whatever reason. | [16:44] |
| Gaxaro: | Trying to find a crack at the moment for it so i can use it again. | [16:44] |
| diana_coman: | that is likely something to do with your own setup there, no idea | [16:44] |
| diana_coman: | some grass would be good, yes | [16:44] |
| Gaxaro: | There we go found a crack on kickass torrent | [16:45] |
| Gaxaro: | If it would freaking download that is lol | [16:49] |
| diana_coman: | what are you downloading exactly? | [16:50] |
| diana_coman: | oh, do you mean you are using some cracked version or...mirc client | [16:50] |
| diana_coman: | ? | [16:50] |
| diana_coman: | wtf, just get some open source one? | [16:50] |
| Gaxaro: | a torrent for mirc + crack | [16:50] |
| Gaxaro: | I did but it tells me i can only chose register or exit | [16:50] |
| diana_coman: | that's not an open source one, lol | [16:50] |
| diana_coman: | what mirc client are you using? | [16:51] |
| Gaxaro: | mIRC v7.45 | [16:51] |
| Gaxaro: | from here http://www.mirc.com/get.html | [16:51] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: mIRC: Download mIRC (at www.mirc.com) | [16:52] |
| diana_coman: | so just try some other irc client ? hexchat for instance https://hexchat.github.io/downloads.html | [16:53] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: Downloads HexChat (at hexchat.github.io) | [16:53] |
| diana_coman: | or whatever, there are tons | [16:54] |
| Gaxaro: | Oh, i will try that one then. | [16:54] |
| Gaxaro_: | Okay there on that client instead now. | [16:56] |
| Gaxaro_: | Anyway, i am at the grass location btw. | [16:58] |
| danielpbarron: | try irssi next; i'm pretty sure there's a winbl0wz version | [17:04] |
| danielpbarron: | and recall i warned you not to use mirc | [17:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | prolly also xchat for windows | [17:07] |
| diana_coman: | there really are tons of clients, don't know why would one bother with mirc specifically | [17:07] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, 2mn on the lbn | [17:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | AUCTION : 1 stack lbn, q 339, 2mn heard diana_coman eta 17:00 ART | [17:38] |
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