| Birdman: | anyone got some cs for sale? | [01:04] |
| Birdman: | also if anyone knows a good spot where i can gather without finding many boulders thatd be cool, doesnt matter what rares are at the spot, at this point the spot i can gather and hit the least is desired | [01:09] |
| Birdman: | 300 bare hands and im maxed out in weight, which is nice and all but sorta crappy to have to pay such close attention to the game and makes leveling gathering much harder | [01:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | so boulders are abundant now ? | [07:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | i never had quite enough throughout the game, 6 months or somerhting. then finally bought a stack like...last week | [07:22] |
| diana_coman: | pretty much all basics are easy to find now kind of everywhere; makes it a laugh that tubers and cr were not found for so long | [08:09] |
| diana_coman: | but abundant is a different story because this change kind of requires a new setup of the bot to be able to properly do it automatically | [08:09] |
| diana_coman: | so not sure about them being abundant really | [08:10] |
| diana_coman: | hanbot, mind saying how did it go with that 405q bouq bundle? | [08:11] |
| diana_coman: | now wtf to do with all those feelings that nobody has any use for? | [08:12] |
| diana_coman: | will end up selling them to spirover at this rate | [08:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | they're my bundles. | [10:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | remember i paid 20-odd million for high q mites | [10:34] |
| diana_coman: | aha; any double distillate bps or similar? | [10:46] |
| diana_coman: | or did the loot at least cover the costs? | [10:46] |
| diana_coman: | I just got some 200+ sentiments from doing some high q dg , might be the best thing for me atm; trouble is that I also get loads of feelings and I am running out of space | [10:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | well that depends what the bps sell for, but no dds. | [10:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | maybe put 16 stacks in an old remark or something, the danielpbarron method. | [10:47] |
| diana_coman: | I suppose so, although not sure low q feelings are worth the hassle | [10:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah maybe best sell to electron then | [10:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | still, 16 stacks that's 1.6mn at bv. even at q 10 it's a chunk of change. | [10:49] |
| diana_coman: | will probably end up selling the low q ones, putting the high q ones in a remark if needed | [10:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | im making something like 20 or so us, and my bps are low, so i expect i'll loot an oodlebunch | [11:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh and i'll also make tools out of q 208 ss, and my bps are again low, so idem. | [11:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | something like 5-10mn worth of overcraft, i'll prolly end up deluged. | [11:16] |
| diana_coman: | so what q us do you get? | [11:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | 150ish | [11:33] |
| diana_coman: | not bad at all | [12:42] |
| Birdman: | <diana_coman>now wtf to do with all those feelings that nobody has any use for? << i'd buy a stack of high q at electron price | [15:38] |
| Birdman: | and some bod | [15:38] |
| diana_coman: | at the same price, I love electron more, Birdman | [15:38] |
| Birdman: | well make an offer | [15:38] |
| diana_coman: | first pick up those bods you supposedly wanted and then we might talk other trades | [15:39] |
| Birdman: | you in town now? | [15:39] |
| diana_coman: | yes | [15:42] |
| Birdman: | kk after i build this ord ill be there | [15:42] |
| Birdman: | diana_coman ready? | [15:48] |
| diana_coman: | 2 min to finish craft | [15:48] |
| Birdman: | kk | [15:48] |
| Birdman: | bare handed ord got me 220k ecu worth of flotsam, paid ~40k for the bundle | [15:48] |
| Birdman: | assuming all ords i get barehanded are gonna be pops like that | [15:49] |
| Birdman: | definitely want to buy some sentiments though, not the feelings | [15:50] |
| diana_coman: | bwahaahahha Birdman | [15:50] |
| Birdman: | wut | [15:51] |
| diana_coman: | <Birdman> <diana_coman>now wtf to do with all those feelings that nobody has any use for? << i'd buy a stack of high q at electron price | [15:51] |
| Birdman: | i had em mixed up lol | [15:51] |
| Birdman: | could use some gemstone dusts too | [15:52] |
| diana_coman: | trade | [15:54] |
| Birdman: | price? | [15:55] |
| diana_coman: | ugh, it was so long ago I need to go and dig it up, should charge extra for keeping it this long | [15:56] |
| diana_coman: | 177k each should work | [16:00] |
| Birdman: | should work or thats what we agreed on? | [16:00] |
| diana_coman: | search and give me the link, will you? | [16:01] |
| Birdman: | heh nbd | [16:01] |
| diana_coman: | I certainly did not agree on waiting indefinitely or something | [16:01] |
| Birdman: | thanks | [16:02] |
| diana_coman: | enjoy | [16:02] |
| Birdman: | any sentiments of gem dusts? | [16:02] |
| Birdman: | or* | [16:03] |
| Birdman: | do i have to add time values to the bot for crafting? its getting ahead of itself | [16:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | meh i keep misjudging the eventual q output. | [17:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | us bundle 156 product comes out 151 | [17:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | Birdman what do you pay on dusts ? | [17:34] |
| Birdman: | 30\% over bv? | [17:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | aite, lemme see what i got. | [17:34] |
| Birdman: | thanks, about to be afk for a few hours though | [17:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | got a stack q 121, how about that ? | [17:34] |
| Birdman: | i was thinking more like 1k of them | [17:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | comes to 160k or such\ | [17:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah. sure, can have 1k also. | [17:35] |
| Birdman: | thanks | [17:35] |
| Birdman: | dont have the tool or skill to use numina like that outside of considerations | [17:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | iirc they go pretty fast. | [17:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | and fresh frromn the presses : http://trilema.com/2016/eulora-official-april-auction-or-a-story-of-toils/ | [18:25] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: Eulora : Official April Auction, or A Story of Toils on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. (at trilema.com) | [18:25] |
| alikim: | what is ecu? | [18:28] |
| alikim: | satoshi? | [18:29] |
| diana_coman: | equivalent to satoshi; ecu = eulora copper hence coppers and 1 copper = 1 satoshi, yes | [18:29] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, I don't get why all the wheel recipes, but whatevs | [18:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | the toils are lapidary bps | [18:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | that's what, 5k+ clicks in there ? | [18:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | btw, you managed to mine bubbles yet ? :D | [18:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | and speaking of auctions, | [18:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | AUCTION : 5 ALC, q 223, opening 2mn ; 5 NTC, q 223, opening 2mn ; 5 ATC, q 130, opening 1.5 mn ; 2 NBC, q 277 & 289, opening 1mn ; 100 SA, d 10464, opening 1,5mn ; 25 cs, opening 1mn ; 1 WOS, d 397.8k, opening 2mn. eta 19:00 ART | [18:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | syllabus : alc = apprentice lapidary consideration ; ntc = neophyte tinkerer consideration ; atc = apprentice tinkerer consideration ; nbc = neophyte bouquinist consideration ; sa = stone adze, the mining tool ; cs = chetty sticks, also mining tool ; wos = worn old screens , the bouquinism tool. | [18:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh and add to that auction : 1 stack LBN, q 246, opening 1mn | [19:04] |
| lobbesbot: | News from eulora: Eulora : Official April Auction, or A Story of Toils <http://trilema.com/2016/eulora-official-april-auction-or-a-story-of-toils/> | [19:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | o hey look at that, 600 sentiments in one go. | [20:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | q 151 too. just a shade under a pop | [20:13] |
| Birdman: | i'd buy some sentiments too | [20:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | 600 q 151 at 150\% ? | [20:30] |
| Birdman: | whats that like 1.2mn? | [20:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | 1359 | [20:32] |
| Birdman: | ill take em, and those dusts | [20:32] |
| Birdman: | gem dusts | [20:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | aite im in town. | [20:32] |
| Birdman: | gonna click my first consideration, see what all the hype is about | [20:32] |
| Birdman: | tell me when to trade | [20:33] |
| Birdman: | danielpbarron got a token? | [20:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | now works | [20:33] |
| Birdman: | tyty | [20:35] |
| Birdman: | oh right | [20:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | cheerios | [20:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | shit, wore down my clogs. | [20:36] |
| Birdman: | tinkering consid bundle q253 | [20:38] |
| Birdman: | which is pretty good if i understand this correctly | [20:39] |
| Birdman: | it can change with # of bits in the world? | [20:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm ? | [21:07] |
| Birdman: | how the value considerations generate i thought was dependant on the amount of bits in existance | [21:11] |
| Birdman: | so the goal is to have it produce as little maculature as possible and as many bps as possible right now | [21:12] |
| danielpbarron: | yeah i got tokens | [21:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | i guess. | [21:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | did you get anything clicking it ? | [21:21] |
| hanbot: | mircea_popescu 1mn on the cs pls. | [21:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | word. | [22:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | AUCTION : 5 ALC, q 223, opening 2mn ; 5 NTC, q 223, opening 2mn ; 5 ATC, q 130, opening 1.5 mn ; 2 NBC, q 277 & 289, opening 1mn ; 100 SA, d 10464, opening 1,5mn ; 25 cs, 1mn heard hanbot ; 1 WOS, d 397.8k, opening 2mn ; 1 stack LBN, q 246, opening 1mn. eta 19:00 ART | [22:03] |
| Birdman: | 1mn on the NBC; 1.15mn on the cs | [22:05] |
| Birdman: | the nbc is bouq consideration right? | [22:05] |
| Birdman: | when are you around danielpbarron | [22:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah. | [22:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | AUCTION : 5 ALC, q 223, opening 2mn ; 5 NTC, q 223, opening 2mn ; 5 ATC, q 130, opening 1.5 mn ; 2 NBC, q 277 & 289, 1mn heard Birdman ; 100 SA, d 10464, opening 1,5mn ; 25 cs, 1.15mn heard Birdman ; 1 WOS, d 397.8k, opening 2mn ; 1 stack LBN, q 246, opening 1mn. eta 19:00 ART | [22:09] |
| Birdman: | I got 54 maculature ~300 ltf 8 ppb and 130 io bps | [22:10] |
| Birdman: | all q 138 | [22:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | o wow nice. | [22:10] |
| Birdman: | is that good you think? | [22:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | i would expect so, what did you spend for the click like 1mn ? | [22:10] |
| Birdman: | if i sell for the 30\% over bv i think i turn a profit | [22:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | who the fuck sells bps for 130\% over bv already. | [22:10] |
| Birdman: | heh i guess i could gouge some huh | [22:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | i mean i'd buy right now, but... | [22:10] |
| Birdman: | i probably made out pretty well, the click might have been < 1mn | [22:11] |
| Birdman: | ill take 5 tokens danielpbarron | [22:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah that's (300 * 407 + 130 * 544 + 8* 446) * 1.38 = 270k bp bv. nb. | [22:14] |
| Birdman: | 33 craft table plans i overlooked too | [22:14] |
| Birdman: | plus the 54 maculature | [22:15] |
| Birdman: | so lemme get this straight, the apprentice is the tier below the neophyte? so the ALC is apprentice lapidary and the NTC is neophyte tinkerer consid? | [22:16] |
| Birdman: | im also not certain i should be the one making these considerations into bps since its all bouq, which im only level 116 | [22:17] |
| Birdman: | thats gotta be lower than everyone else's | [22:18] |
| Birdman: | not to mention im hundreds of levels behind in tinkering which also plays a roll in output quality | [22:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | would seem the other way around, seeing how neophyte only needs 1 bod | [22:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | Birdman it's not clear if low q bps are better or worse than high q bps. | [22:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | esp as low q you get more. | [22:21] |
| Birdman: | this is true but i suspect the bp quality is what weighs heaviest on max output quality | [22:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | possible. in which case low q bp very good for oc | [22:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | and oc very good because you can get multiple items - ie, even cheaper bps | [22:22] |
| Birdman: | huh, i guess that'd make sense then too if you want less quality and more items | [22:22] |
| Birdman: | next we trade ill take the rest of those gem dusts btw, didnt realise it takes 999 of them instead of 99 | [22:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | wanna do that now ? | [22:28] |
| danielpbarron: | Birdman> when are you around danielpbarron << now | [22:31] |
| Birdman: | on my way to town | [22:31] |
| Birdman: | should i trade now mircea_popescu ? | [22:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | yep | [22:34] |
| Birdman: | how much for em both of you | [22:36] |
| danielpbarron: | 500k | [22:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | 9999 * 10 * 1.21 * 1.3 = 157284.27 | [22:36] |
| Birdman: | do you have change danielpbarron ? | [22:37] |
| Birdman: | ty | [22:37] |
| Birdman: | annnnd thanks | [22:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | enjoy! | [22:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | check it out, the numina are starting to move huh. sold 1.5mn worth today. | [22:39] |
| Birdman: | yeah sort of regretting getting rid of my super high quality bouq numina | [22:40] |
| Birdman: | still have stacks of the dusts ~450 but no mites | [22:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | hey, i paid a pretty penny on those mites, but worth it imo, i need em for my abcs | [22:42] |
| Birdman: | yes | [22:43] |
| Birdman: | they are really irreplacable | [22:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | hey jurov you around ? | [22:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | or mod6 ? | [22:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | Birdman what do you care about mites anyway ? nbc takes dusts, which you have. | [22:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | should be some juicy oc, too. | [22:49] |
| Birdman: | ah, well i guess for the abc if i can ever get my hands on em | [22:49] |
| Birdman: | but im sure some shreds down the road will get me plenty mites | [22:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | i guess it's possible the nbc loot them | [22:50] |
| Birdman: | i havee ~600 of em just q52 | [22:50] |
| Birdman: | got some 250 rastrum bps and 90 ring bps from that click, q160 45 maculature | [23:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | o wow rastrum huh | [23:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | those were the choke point for some higher level skill books iirc. | [23:52] |
| Birdman: | nice | [23:52] |
| Birdman: | the wedding rings are worht like 4x as much though | [23:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | no use for those yet afaik | [23:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | hmm... i could make them, even. you selling ? | [23:53] |
| Birdman: | huh, they are pretty easy to make | [23:57] |
| Birdman: | well ive no idea where to start in appraising this | [23:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | well... so how much ? | [23:57] |
| Birdman: | so i'd be happy with 160\% | [23:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | i guess i can do that. im in town. | [23:58] |
| Birdman: | 150k | [23:58] |
| Birdman: | or 147k | [23:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | i see it's 133 c ea on diana's site, so 133 * 250 * 1.6 * 1.6 = 85120 | [23:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | or you had more ? | [23:59] |
| Birdman: | <mircea_popescu>hmm... i could make them, even. you selling ? << wedding rings not rastrums | [23:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | nah i meant the rastrums | [23:59] |
| Birdman: | ahh | [23:59] |
| Birdman: | 1 sec | [23:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | the rings will prolly be in demand once marriage gets added in the game | [23:59] |
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