| Birdman: | server down or just me? | [02:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | heh check it out, it died an hour after i went to bed | [10:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | back on. sorry for the crash everyone. | [10:15] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, I'm getting pss at 190q currently and should have some kind of stocks soon; atm though I have only about 100 of them. | [10:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | aite, hit me at the end of the ay or such | [10:47] |
| diana_coman: | will do | [10:47] |
| diana_coman: | foxy's mining rate approx 2pss/min :))) | [11:03] |
| diana_coman: | curious if this holds for the whole day or what | [11:04] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, scratch that, can't calc, it's 1pss/min | [11:05] |
| diana_coman: | and a bit of data re "do skills matter?": same bits of nothing, same tool etc but I get q190 on pss (mining) and 179 on eps (lj) | [11:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | 1 pss / min ie 1.5k a full day ? wowza. | [11:37] |
| diana_coman: | it would seem so , if it keeps up; quite curious if it does; obv this is not the same at all pss spots either. | [11:38] |
| diana_coman: | hmmm, come to think about it, the logs have timestamps, it should be possible to make a chart with pss-finding speed over time bwahahah | [11:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | yup | [11:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | darn again ? | [12:40] |
| diana_coman: | nope | [12:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | local issue it seems yeah | [12:44] |
| Birdman: | Anyone selling high q BOD? | [16:15] |
| Birdman: | also im shredding well over 400 q bits im willing to sell for 4:3 on ecu:q | [16:15] |
| Birdman: | Not sure if thats a deal to even entertain but i assume they're much higher q than anyone can produce from the maculture gotten from consideration | [16:17] |
| diana_coman: | Birdman, are you seriously shredding bps?? | [16:26] |
| Birdman: | yeah | [16:26] |
| Birdman: | rippin em up old school | [16:26] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, you really think you'd get more on the bits than you'd get by selling the bps themselves or what? | [16:27] |
| Birdman: | yeah | [16:27] |
| diana_coman: | good luck with that | [16:27] |
| Birdman: | i told people they were for sale | [16:27] |
| Birdman: | no interest so sitting on them wont do me any good right | [16:27] |
| diana_coman: | really? since when is keeping stuff a bad thing in eulora? lol | [16:28] |
| Birdman: | its anti market in a game solely based on market right now | [16:28] |
| diana_coman: | but anyway: I sold some high q bod earlier, I'll probably sell some more when I get to do another run | [16:28] |
| Birdman: | i can keep these shitty bps or shred crazy q bits which helps the loot on my consideration and level my building and farming meantime | [16:28] |
| diana_coman: | what do you mean by "solely based on market right now"? I can't quite see that | [16:29] |
| diana_coman: | I can see the help on farming xp, sure | [16:29] |
| diana_coman: | anyway, fine with me, just trying to figure out the full considerations there | [16:30] |
| Birdman: | what else is there to do in eulora and what is the objective? | [16:30] |
| diana_coman: | it's just the "right now" part that I fail to see really | [16:31] |
| diana_coman: | but maybe it's just me | [16:31] |
| Birdman: | eventually there will be other things to do like combat | [16:31] |
| Birdman: | maybe gambling and whore houses amirite ? | [16:31] |
| diana_coman: | I meant: pretty much EVERYTHING I ever kept proved to be VERY useful later | [16:31] |
| Birdman: | oh | [16:32] |
| diana_coman: | essentially, I regretted NOT keeping stuff | [16:32] |
| diana_coman: | but almost never keeping it | [16:32] |
| Birdman: | im pretty sure i dont want to keep these bps if no one's gonna buy em right now | [16:32] |
| diana_coman: | I suppose the only negligible exception to that would be the supplication bps because they just got wiped overnight, but the value I can't quite say I felt any real regret there | [16:33] |
| diana_coman: | kk | [16:33] |
| Birdman: | what q bits are you getting from consideration maculatures? | [16:34] |
| diana_coman: | I clicked only 1 cons and I think I got 172q bits | [16:34] |
| diana_coman: | out of the corresponding maculatures I mean | [16:35] |
| Birdman: | nice | [16:35] |
| Birdman: | im thinking if max out my overcraft i can get into 600q range | [16:36] |
| diana_coman: | mwahahaha, I got myself a 13819q pss | [16:37] |
| diana_coman: | sadly not exactly something to replicate | [16:37] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu: 295 pss at 190q and another 114 at 203q | [16:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | aite, wanna dump it ? | [16:39] |
| diana_coman: | have to do it separate trades | [16:40] |
| diana_coman: | or they mix | [16:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | just put them in, not worth for a few | [16:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | (295 * 1.9 + 114 * 2.03) * 262 * 1.3 was it ? | [16:40] |
| diana_coman: | yeah | [16:41] |
| diana_coman: | bah, won't let me put them even | [16:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol k | [16:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | cheers | [16:42] |
| diana_coman: | thanks | [16:42] |
| diana_coman: | so uhm, if it's not "worth it for a few" when talking of 300+100, then wtf is all that thing with oh noes wasted thing to not separate smalls from tinies? | [16:45] |
| danielpbarron: | "I regret not keeping things" "got some things ready, take them!" | [16:45] |
| diana_coman: | can't quite follow | [16:45] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron, lack of space, you know? | [16:45] |
| diana_coman: | my bp inv is full or I'd gladly take his bps | [16:45] |
| diana_coman: | though still not really at ANY price | [16:45] |
| danielpbarron: | i mean the pss | [16:46] |
| diana_coman: | I can and DO make more | [16:46] |
| diana_coman: | I don't quite follow your reasoning there | [16:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman let's calc : (295 * 1.9 + 114 * 2.03) / 409 = 1.936234719 | [16:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | so i lost... .6 of a q point over the entire stack, which is to say 0.006234719 × 262 × 409 = 670 coppers. | [16:47] |
| diana_coman: | oh, you meant as in not worth it for a few q points | [16:47] |
| diana_coman: | I read that as for a few pss | [16:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | aha. | [16:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | the actual value of 670 satoshi being you know, 0.0000067 × 400 = a quarter cent, whatevs. | [16:48] |
| diana_coman: | yeah | [16:49] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron, I suppose it would also be more truthful to say that I regret not making MORE of the various things rather than the keeping them per se - that might make it clearer for you, if indeed it is not clear | [16:52] |
| danielpbarron: | a penny kept is a penny made | [16:53] |
| danielpbarron: | or copper even | [16:53] |
| diana_coman: | so then penny received is what? | [16:54] |
| danielpbarron: | regret for the sender | [16:54] |
| diana_coman: | should have some petrified regrets too I suppose | [16:55] |
| diana_coman: | quite fitting | [16:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [16:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, i shall be doing more clicks on the app cons later today i hope. | [16:55] |
| Birdman: | q2041 maculature for 103 q449 buts | [16:56] |
| Birdman: | and i can do that 217 times ranking up every 3 shreds | [16:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | q2k ? you made this ? | [16:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | largest q in game yet ? | [16:58] |
| diana_coman: | he makes it from bps mircea_popescu | [16:58] |
| diana_coman: | the old shredding process | [16:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh oh right | [16:58] |
| diana_coman: | shredding existing bps | [16:58] |
| diana_coman: | I was just trying to figure out what max price I'd be willing to pay for q449 bits | [16:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | and ? | [17:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | i think ima make some bits myself to make mites. | [17:03] |
| diana_coman: | hm, it might actually make sense for very high q stuff | [17:05] |
| diana_coman: | on the other hand, getting tinies on that is a pain so ... | [17:05] |
| diana_coman: | ugh | [17:05] |
| Birdman: | will probs get some crazy high q mites too so | [17:05] |
| Birdman: | try bare handed diana_coman | [17:06] |
| diana_coman: | Birdman, is it 200 coppers per bit you want with your formula? | [17:06] |
| diana_coman: | those 449q bits I mean | [17:06] |
| Birdman: | no i want a copper per q point on a 130\% basis 300 q bit, 400 ecu a pop | [17:06] |
| diana_coman: | oh, then that's sorted as I can't see any way that would work for me | [17:07] |
| Birdman: | yep | [17:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | 400 copper per q 400 lbn ?! | [17:08] |
| Birdman: | more than that lol | [17:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | over 1k\% ?! | [17:08] |
| diana_coman: | he means 400 ecu per 300 lbn | [17:08] |
| diana_coman: | crazy stuff, lol | [17:08] |
| Birdman: | well they are 450q but that ratio yeah | [17:08] |
| Birdman: | it might ~only~ make sense for diana_coman seeing as she has the highest building | [17:09] |
| Birdman: | or whomever gets the best q on w/e naturally | [17:09] |
| diana_coman: | so like 600, as in 4*449/3 | [17:09] |
| diana_coman: | yes Birdman but think about it, it's the *difference* from what q I get with your bits vs what I get with mine that would have to justify the huge difference in price | [17:09] |
| Birdman: | i think they would | [17:10] |
| diana_coman: | which I just can't see really, maybe *only* if I mine something like mollusc | [17:10] |
| Birdman: | i will bestow upon the a couple bits pro bono | [17:10] |
| Birdman: | just for my own curiosity | [17:10] |
| diana_coman: | so what it is you have in mind exactly? | [17:10] |
| diana_coman: | you want to see the q diff? | [17:10] |
| diana_coman: | trouble is that I really don't see a point in going for molluscs with tools/bare-handed | [17:12] |
| diana_coman: | so ...no tinies there | [17:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | i dunno man. i take q 11 lbn, i still get 1 wm per tiny. | [17:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | if i got q 1100 lbn, prolly... 2 wm ? if that ? | [17:12] |
| diana_coman: | no, he means you'd get q500 wm | [17:12] |
| diana_coman: | vs q130 wm | [17:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | but i have the small process if i want q. | [17:13] |
| diana_coman: | still one, but waaaaaay better | [17:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | and he can't fucking beat that ? | [17:13] |
| diana_coman: | well, given the ratio tiny:small | [17:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | i can actually make small bundles out of q 500 thread, ie, q 3500! | [17:13] |
| diana_coman: | you'd get 20 times more high q stuff is the reasoning | [17:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm | [17:13] |
| Birdman: | well its not a question of profit i think. You can definitely turn a 600 q450 bit into much more ecu than that plus the extra xp. i though it over lunch and they aren't even for sale at that price considering i turn one into like a 400 ecu bv bean or whatever | [17:33] |
| Birdman: | so why even sell em for so little i'd say | [17:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | hey, more power to you. | [19:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | i think i might be having some for sale ; making myself a screen now, will do a few cons clicks and then see what the maculature does. | [19:59] |
| Birdman: | keep me posted | [20:01] |
| Birdman: | <mircea_popescu>i can actually make small bundles out of q 500 thread, ie, q 3500! << i think overcraft on the smalls is weighted alot more towards quantity. iirc the few ~500q bits i used got me noticably higher q than the 784 q bundles i used for the smalls. when im done shredding ill go get exact numbers | [21:10] |
| Birdman: | danielpbarron confirmed you waste exp when using more exp than it takes to get to the next level. so if you're 800/1000 exp to get level 10 to level 11 and you craft something that gives 300 points, you waste the 100 as it doesnt carry over even though you can level up twice before needing to train | [21:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | odd | [21:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | Birdman im pretty sure that if you're fully trained (green) and 800/100, training 300 just gets you 100/1000 into next level. | [21:35] |
| Birdman: | im a low level in bouq and shredding moves the pretty far, it was slightly under leveling up so i did a shred, but when i trained it didnt move further into the next level any | [21:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm | [21:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | pretty sure i had the opposite experience. | [21:38] |
| hanbot: | AUCTION: 100 pcs, q 154, starting bid @ 2M, ends 15:00 GMT march 24th. | [21:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | oooo | [22:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | pcs = pointy clumps of slag amirite ? | [22:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | hanbot | [22:24] |
| hanbot: | mhm | [22:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | nice. 2mn here. | [22:44] |
| hanbot: | AUCTION: 100 pcs, q 154, 2M heard mircea_popescu, ends 15:00 GMT march 24th. | [22:45] |
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