#eulora Logs for 18 Mar 2016



March 18th, 2016 by Diana Coman
mircea_popescu: sure. what do yuou pay ? [00:45]
DianaComan: what q are the sentiments mircea_popescu ? [03:16]
mircea_popescu: DianaComan lemme see here one sec [09:49]
DianaComan: let me know [09:54]
mircea_popescu: darn... turns out i have a whole lot of feelings, 0 sentiments. [10:03]
mircea_popescu: no idea how this is possibru, but there it is. [10:03]
DianaComan: aham, me too [10:03]
DianaComan: danielpbarron, what do you charge to make some sentiments out of provided feelings? and what q do you make them? [10:05]
DianaComan: mircea_popescu, how did it go with the grass? [10:05]
danielpbarron: idk, haven't tried since the update [10:06]
danielpbarron: but prolly 2x the value [10:06]
mircea_popescu: DianaComan been still working on the gt thread (lol! a pun!). [10:06]
mircea_popescu: pretty much done by nao. [10:06]
DianaComan: so 200\% even with provided feelings? [10:06]
DianaComan: or how is that? what do they take anyway besides the feelings? [10:07]
DianaComan: what q is the gt coming out mircea_popescu ? [10:07]
mircea_popescu: 130ish [10:07]
DianaComan: and uhm ftr: having different q in the craft-table does NOT work [10:08]
DianaComan: it still messes them up [10:08]
DianaComan: oh. [10:08]
DianaComan: not that high then [10:08]
danielpbarron: doesn't matter what they take really; I have exactly enough ingredients to match how many sentiments i can make [10:08]
DianaComan: do they take something exotic/can't be found? [10:09]
DianaComan: or what is the bottleneck on them/why are they so expensive? [10:09]
danielpbarron: i guess it does sorta matter now huh, in that you might want to supply me with high q stuff to make the thing that goes into sentiment making [10:09]
DianaComan: exactly [10:09]
DianaComan: they are lapidary, aren't they? [10:10]
danielpbarron: so then i need high quality leather, shavings, snakeskins, ppb [10:10]
DianaComan: or mcguyver? [10:10]
danielpbarron: gung-ho to make the water and mcguyver to make the flagon [10:10]
danielpbarron: lapidary to make the sentiments [10:10]
DianaComan: aha; so 3 passes, hm [10:10]
danielpbarron: i hope i didn't already make all my waters [10:11]
DianaComan: ugh, so basically if nobody starts making bps then we run out of those too and on the other hand they are needed to make..bps [10:12]
danielpbarron: i'll make some mcguyver blueprints once someone starts making enough bits for the bundle quality to go up [10:12]
DianaComan: anyway: assuming I provide you with all those ingredients, so wpl, ibs, ss, ppb, high q, feelings if needed; what would you charge then? [10:13]
DianaComan: but you know danielpbarron if you want that to happen, you have to sell some sentiments at something more reasonable as otherwise it won't happen [10:13]
danielpbarron: i'll have to get back to you, not sure if i'm forgetting any ingredients [10:13]
DianaComan: ok [10:13]
danielpbarron: if you're providing everything but the blueprints i think we can work out something reasonable [10:14]
DianaComan: well, if not, then I suppose my only option is to do some huge overcrafts until I loot some sentiments - although seeing how I never did until now and otherwise foxy seems to lack the luck muscle entirely, it will be interesting [10:16]
danielpbarron: how many sentiments do you need? [10:18]
DianaComan: well, at an absolute minimum, I suppose 1, but ideally at least 99 [10:18]
DianaComan: the cons takes 1-99 sentiments [10:18]
danielpbarron: so like 5 crafts worth [10:18]
DianaComan: seeing how I want it as high q as possible, I'd need at least 99, preferably double that, to make at least 2 cons [10:18]
danielpbarron: i think my thing makes 21 per [10:18]
DianaComan: aha [10:19]
danielpbarron: then 10 [10:19]
danielpbarron: DianaComan, how much would you charge me for highest quality : 312 shavings, 1482 leather, 156 cordage, 78 ppb, 78 snakeskin [16:33]
danielpbarron: from there I can give you a quote on however many sentiments you need [16:34]
danielpbarron: that lot of items would let me finish off my water of anamesias [16:34]
DianaComan: uhm, danielpbarron do you mean you'd sell me all the resulting sentiments from that ? [17:42]
DianaComan: thing is: "highest quality" is a poor way of putting it, since yeah, I can obtain for instance 800q, but not 1500 items at that q or in any case, it would make it more expensive [17:42]
DianaComan: so if this deal is about you finishing off whatever you have, that's a different story all together [17:43]
DianaComan: guess I should update my shop huh [17:43]
mircea_popescu: hi euporium ? [17:43]
mircea_popescu: was this a bot ? [17:44]
DianaComan: yeah, it's Azelphur's and jurov's bot [17:44]
DianaComan: &item ampoule [17:45]
euporium: Misshaped Ampoule Design(1) cat: Blueprints I base value: 1345, 2 other items match [17:45]
DianaComan: updated shop: http://www.dianacoman.com/eulora/foxystore/ [18:23]
DianaComan: danielpbarron, ^ [18:23]
DianaComan: did anyone click a consideration already? [18:36]
DianaComan: mircea_popescu, ? [18:36]
DianaComan: it seems like it will take me at least 1 hour, quite curious what comes out of it [18:46]
DianaComan: desspayr [18:48]
DianaComan: &item desspayr [18:48]
euporium: Black of Desspayr(1) cat: Ingredients I base value: 29170, 2 other items match [18:48]
mircea_popescu: i clicked like 4 yes [19:23]
DianaComan: hm, so I got: 74 bct bps + 49 slag bps, 182q both [19:35]
DianaComan: and 697 library dusts same q [19:35]
DianaComan: that's 13k worth of bps and another 12.5k worth of basic numina, which wouldn't look *that* bad, except the bundle going in was 225q and taking the apparently rare tinkerer sentiments + the tome that takes canines etc [19:38]
DianaComan: hm [19:38]
DianaComan: what bps did you get out of your runs mircea_popescu ? were they all on bouq? [19:38]
DianaComan: not to mention that the consideration bp alone cost me way more than that, so it seems bps are VERY expensive for the time being [19:39]
mircea_popescu: all on bouq, as i said at the time - one mcguyver iirc a coupla something else and a bunch tink [19:41]
mircea_popescu: so roughly speaking bps are worth 2-1000\% or somesuch ? [19:42]
mircea_popescu: is just burning 3.5k bct to make cc atm [19:43]
mircea_popescu: comes out q 152 [19:43]
mircea_popescu: DianaComan did you also get maculature ? [19:43]
DianaComan: it would seem so, but I suspect it is basically inflated significantly by the cost of the consideration bp itself [19:43]
DianaComan: yes, go the maculature too [19:43]
mircea_popescu: that prolly worth something also. [19:44]
DianaComan: true, but not exactly 700k now or more [19:44]
mircea_popescu: but congrats eh, first euloran to produce bps ? [19:44]
DianaComan: well, you were first, no? [19:44]
mircea_popescu: well i only made consen [19:44]
mircea_popescu: not like, slag bps [19:45]
mircea_popescu: DianaComan q 182 maculature should be if memory serves like 3.2k a pop or so, bv [19:45]
DianaComan: uhm, I'm confused: you said you clicked considerations, so then you got bps, no? [19:45]
mircea_popescu: well, qabv but still. [19:45]
mircea_popescu: DianaComan yes, but the bps i got were in turn considerations. [19:45]
DianaComan: oh [19:46]
DianaComan: I see, considerations are the bps looted from bouq; for some reason I thought each line would loot its own bps so bouq would loot bouq bps etc [19:46]
DianaComan: I guess not [19:46]
mircea_popescu: nah, seems bouq loots the cons for the other lines. [19:47]

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