| jurov: | DicePower: can you export and upload? | [04:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | ahaha | [09:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | i have no idea what a "register activity problem" would be tbh. | [09:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | unless your cpu is too broken to boot, registers are handled correctly. | [09:52] |
| jurov: | he meant The Registry, the windows beast | [10:15] |
| jurov: | and i have not seen any eulora or cs use of registry pop up yet | [10:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh oh. | [10:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | im not aware it does that, no. | [10:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | "in the process's 1.X second life" << what's that mean DicePower ? | [10:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | so currently turning q 15 grass into q 61 thread. like +46. | [10:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyone selling middling grass ? 50 to 100 say ? | [10:52] |
| DianaComan: | for anyone interested re considerations and the corresponding line: going slowly because I need to get everything myself it seems (high q resources of all sorts); still: got quite a bunch of poccs (charcoal) done and a few ampoules so far, working on getting some more significant stocks of high q eps and bbb to make black of desspayrs; seeing how the considerations themselves take tomes which take canines which are still not foun | [12:07] |
| DianaComan: | d, I really can't see any reason to not sell some bods as soon as I get them done; still undecided though as to quality of those bods, so if you want bods, let me know: what would you pay for high q /low q bods? | [12:07] |
| DianaComan: | (part of the huge pain of all this is that the bps are q50 only so kind of suck to start with) | [12:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | DianaComan low q bods are not vaU | [12:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | valuable. | [12:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | the entire point of cons is the oc, and so... | [12:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | strive to make them q 200 or even more if in any way possible. | [12:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | i'll be digging up some as-high eps as possible once done making this run of ibs/lft/gin/gt (tomes also need gt, so) | [12:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | i'm about 90\% through it, 100 or so threads left to do. | [12:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | something tells me we'll be exchanging tomes for bods or such. | [12:53] |
| DianaComan: | aha; might be possible if I throw in some of my huge q threads for some huge q eps etc; will calc all and see what I can do | [13:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | im pretty sure i'll make larger q threads than you once i get some high q grass. | [13:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | but it'll take two or three passes through that process i ugess. | [13:38] |
| DianaComan: | I had some 1k q grass... | [13:39] |
| DianaComan: | it's that I meant, lol | [13:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh that. yeah, that'd be good. | [13:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | i dunno if i'd ever mine q 1k. but i'd have to try first, so. | [13:40] |
| DianaComan: | it certainly is possible - see my 800+q molluscs | [13:40] |
| DianaComan: | but not easy, no | [13:40] |
| DianaComan: | you might need high q thread to mine high q grass basically, lol | [13:40] |
| DianaComan: | ftr I just dug out some 497q eps | [13:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | i think there may be a diminishing returns at work also | [13:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | is say 800 so much better than 500 in output that it's worth bothering ? | [13:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | maybe q500 is really "good enough" | [13:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, i was getting grass q 220-230 pre update, which iirc is higher than anyone else ? so maybe i'm in the best position to make high thread. will hafta see. | [13:48] |
| DianaComan: | in some cases yes, but keep in mind that I have those shitty cons and bod bps of 50q | [13:48] |
| DianaComan: | I'm certainly not saying that one should always get highest q possible, no way | [13:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah there's that too huh. | [13:49] |
| DianaComan: | that's too my mind the main advantage of the current q system: it makes it possible to adjust the q to precisely what you want /need it to be | [13:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | i guess i was dumg to produce all the bod i had bps for huh | [13:49] |
| DianaComan: | mircea_popescu> anyway, i was getting grass q 220-230 pre update, which iirc is higher than anyone else ? so maybe i'm in the best position to make high thread. will hafta see. <- I suspect so, yes | [13:51] |
| DianaComan: | and anyway, I'm not going to use my limited 1k q grass to mine...grass; lol | [13:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [13:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | curious if you can reproduce it. | [13:51] |
| DianaComan: | what? | [13:52] |
| DianaComan: | 1k q grass? | [13:52] |
| DianaComan: | that was from electron | [13:52] |
| DianaComan: | not mined as far as I know | [13:52] |
| DianaComan: | I get beans at 200q with some of the thread I made from the maculature I bought from you | [13:53] |
| DianaComan: | will see | [13:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | but if you can use it to make threads high enough that allow you to mine more q 1000... | [13:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | lbn you mean ? | [13:53] |
| danielpbarron: | has q300+ threads | [14:06] |
| DianaComan: | yeah, lbn | [14:59] |
| DianaComan: | well, lbn + corresponding thread so that q is the same | [14:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | o wow DianaComan that's a good trick. | [16:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | i was just thinking what to do with the bot so as to not mix the stacks. | [16:24] |
| DianaComan: | well, according to danielpbarron it would work if you seed the stack or so he says | [16:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | so basically have separate stacks and it'll have enough sense to add tiny product to the right one and small product to the other ? | [16:24] |
| DianaComan: | I never tried that, but I understood that he experimented with different qualities in different slots (at least in a table in inventory) and they would not mix if you pick up another | [16:25] |
| DianaComan: | personally I am a bit skeptical about it | [16:25] |
| DianaComan: | never truly tested this, but I was under the impression that what you pick up just goes to the first slot with the same item | [16:26] |
| DianaComan: | otherwise there isn't really much to do about it short of a. modifying bot to handle this new development properly (i.e. keep different stacks) b. ignoring either tinies or smalls | [16:26] |
| DianaComan: | the bot itself just does "take all" at this stage | [16:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | myeah. i was thinking maybe just not take lbn | [16:27] |
| DianaComan: | I suppose it depends on what your rate tiny:small is for the thing you go for/tool/area | [16:28] |
| danielpbarron: | not take lbn?? you mean not take threads. | [16:28] |
| DianaComan: | I think he needs highest q possible danielpbarron so not take lbn | [16:29] |
| DianaComan: | + on basics with an imp I think I get quite few tinies in selected spots at least | [16:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | no, i mean not take lbn. | [16:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | i was going to try for high q | [16:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | my reasoning is that well... how much is a lbn ? like 50 ? 100 ? | [16:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | and it gives me a single grass, which is what, 100 ? | [16:30] |
| DianaComan: | yeah, but if you get tiny:small like 20:1... | [16:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | mmkay, skip it then | [16:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | even so. | [16:31] |
| DianaComan: | ah, grass | [16:31] |
| DianaComan: | curious if it doesn't make more sense then to either build some ord/remark or use a cs anyway for small | [16:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | cs prolly huh. | [16:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | just... cs is expensive. use it on grass rly ? | [16:32] |
| DianaComan: | myeah | [16:32] |
| danielpbarron: | DianaComan> I think he needs highest q possible danielpbarron so not take lbn << yeah so go back and do the smalls afterwards.. not waste tinies | [16:34] |
| DianaComan: | yeah, except then you need to tend to it basically | [16:34] |
| danielpbarron: | so? | [16:34] |
| danielpbarron: | maybe he should buy my smalls | [16:35] |
| DianaComan: | lol danielpbarron people's time has also some value, not like everyone's time is fixed value and that considered below whatever loss the no-lbn is or whatevs | [16:35] |
| DianaComan: | that might be an option, yes | [16:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron how much for grass smalls ? | [16:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | i would actually prefer to buy yours if you mine the tinies and leave the smalls locked. | [16:36] |
| danielpbarron: | eh here's where it gets tricky, barehanded smalls give a lower quality than tool-mined smalls | [16:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | do they ? | [16:36] |
| danielpbarron: | oh yeah | [16:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | maybe your smalls give a smaller quality than mine then ? | [16:36] |
| danielpbarron: | my barehanded ones at least | [16:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | however... if the bot locks smalls, then i can just do as you say, come back later and do them. would indeed have to be done by hand tho | [16:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm. | [16:37] |
| danielpbarron: | i'm pretty sure if you put one of each quality in your inventory ahead of time, it'll sort them out as it goes | [16:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | congratulates himself on having managed to get things to where he has nfi what to do. | [16:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | im definitely testing that danielpbarron. | [16:38] |
| danielpbarron: | doing this isn't trivial | [16:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | why not ? | [16:38] |
| danielpbarron: | they want to mix if you move them from a container or storage | [16:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | i just go there, start bot, watch it go, stop it on first found small. | [16:38] |
| DianaComan: | I suppose he means you need to put it into the table mircea_popescu | [16:38] |
| DianaComan: | but that's still fine | [16:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | right. | [16:39] |
| danielpbarron: | i think the fastest way would be take 2 of the highest quality, split it into two piles in your inventory, and then one will get contaminated from then on by tinies, the other will absorb the small outputs | [16:39] |
| danielpbarron: | oh yeah, in table i keep forgetting about that | [16:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | interesting. | [16:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | will also try this approach yeah definitely. | [16:39] |
| danielpbarron: | i think the table way works too; i've done that with ordinaries back when we used to get two different qualities from those | [16:40] |
| danielpbarron: | but anyway, I don't want to gather grass with basic or imp tools | [16:40] |
| danielpbarron: | that's something for sticks or barehanded | [16:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | i basically wanna see if i can get grass/threads high enough to reliably produce q 1k grass. | [16:41] |
| danielpbarron: | i used up all my high quality grass finally | [16:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | it'd be pretty epic if in point of fact the change actually gave us the ability to select from ~1 to 1k quality instead of basically being stuck with whatever highest crafter makes. | [16:42] |
| DianaComan: | seeing how I got that 800+ q on mollusc I don't see how would it be other than NOT being stuck, lol | [16:47] |
| DianaComan: | is getting some 801 ss atm | [16:47] |
| DianaComan: | 810* lol | [16:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | huh ? | [16:48] |
| DianaComan: | it seems to me that it is quite a wide range of q one can get - at least on building I certainly explored the issue | [16:51] |
| DianaComan: | and well, since I made some q5 on tinkering with the shitties grass ever... | [16:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | aha | [17:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | i've been getting 30 to 60 cft from grass of low q | [17:00] |
| DianaComan: | so the range is at least what, 30 to 200+ since that's what you make with high q, no? | [17:01] |
| danielpbarron: | i have 300+ quality threads. | [17:02] |
| DianaComan: | what q grass did you use for those 300+ threads danielpbarron ? | [17:04] |
| danielpbarron: | 555ish | [17:04] |
| DianaComan: | did you get that (as in: is that renewable)? | [17:04] |
| danielpbarron: | it was from mixing the 1k stuff with more recently aquired 160+ stuff | [17:05] |
| DianaComan: | so then not repeatable; and yeah, I made some 400+ threads with that grass too | [17:05] |
| DianaComan: | and in turn 800+ resources with the thread | [17:06] |
| danielpbarron: | you think what you do is repeatable? | [17:06] |
| DianaComan: | only if someone can make thread 400+ | [17:06] |
| DianaComan: | otherwise no, of course not | [17:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | well kinda why i wanna see. | [17:12] |
| DianaComan: | mircea_popescu, any tinkerer's sentiments for sale? | [18:21] |
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