| DicePower: | Is there a file somewhere in the Eulora folder or in AppData or something that stores non-hidden avatar info, like Weight, Capacity, current Health, etc.? | [00:23] |
| diana_coman: | <Birdman> diana_coman if i were to leave the bot to gather close to the trainer, would it train? <- no, the explore part does not train | [02:27] |
| diana_coman: | <danielpbarron> i guess maybe we need more gatherers? since us high rank tinkerers are still paying crazy high (in my opinion) prices for harvestable <- do you mean the 125\%? | [02:31] |
| diana_coman: | Birdman, 350k on the tool bps | [02:40] |
| Birdman: | 350k heard diana_coman | [04:29] |
| Birdman: | seems i average a bit over 1 grass per tiny and almost exactly 1 tiny per ten barehanded tries | [05:48] |
| Birdman: | with a small or two thrown in every now and again | [05:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | bps ? what bps. | [06:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah i c. | [06:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | (279*.44 + 15 *.39 + 31*.38)*10000 = 1403900 / 350k = 249\% | [06:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | bps through da roof! | [06:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | the funny part is that i can't even decide if i won't later regret not bidding now. | [06:55] |
| danielpbarron: | prices for harvestable <- do you mean the 125\%? << I mean qi stuff | [07:18] |
| danielpbarron: | 368k Birdman | [07:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | aaand now i mine 229 | [09:26] |
| jurov: | DicePower: there is folder in appdata with stuff like chat logs, but all character info comes solely from server. | [09:59] |
| jurov: | DicePower: I have a version with greedy logging tho, it logs the stats too. You can pull it from git and compile. | [10:13] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, so I stored 11766, 14535 and 3923 feelings (3 stacks, that's how they were in my inventory | [11:32] |
| diana_coman: | but now storage shows only 12274? | [11:33] |
| diana_coman: | and those were high q (120) feelings | [11:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | ugh | [11:33] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, any idea ? ^ | [11:33] |
| diana_coman: | or they got somehow mixed up with the rest? | [11:34] |
| diana_coman: | ugh | [11:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | i've never heard of something like this. | [11:35] |
| diana_coman: | I'm not really sure how it made the piles in the first place really | [11:35] |
| danielpbarron: | i also have >9999 feelingses piles from Nidhogg | [11:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | it happens via loot | [11:37] |
| diana_coman: | but danielpbarron did you store them without problem? | [11:37] |
| diana_coman: | because yes, they seem to have appeared via loot (I've been making loads of shaped slag) | [11:37] |
| danielpbarron: | i think so | [11:37] |
| diana_coman: | hm | [11:37] |
| danielpbarron: | i looks like some of the piles are out of order | [11:38] |
| danielpbarron: | i thought i put all the >9999 ones in first | [11:38] |
| danielpbarron: | but i see some exactly 9999 ones above on the list | [11:38] |
| diana_coman: | well, at this moment I am more concerned about whether some got lost on the way to storage basically due to the numbers, but will have to go through the whole list and then add everything up to figure that one out | [11:39] |
| diana_coman: | because I suppose they might have gotten onto other existing stacks with same q | [11:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman you have 36195 feelings q120 | [11:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | what storage did was create 9999 stacks out of your larger ones. | [11:40] |
| danielpbarron: | i don't see anything obviously amiss in my numina storage | [11:40] |
| diana_coman: | but not out of all ? | [11:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | it's kinda weird. but it doesn't lose the items, just... fucks the arrangement up a little. | [11:41] |
| diana_coman: | that was kind of my hope but it looks so weird because of the remaining stack of 12274 | [11:42] |
| diana_coman: | I found meanwhile the stacks indeed so now they are 3923+12274+9999+9999 | [11:42] |
| diana_coman: | where it added to some older stacks I think, I'd need to go through the logs to figure out exactly what was the conf before, ugh | [11:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | basically diana_coman if you have say 5555 q 120 in storage and add a 11111 stack, it will make a 9999 stack out of the first, and leave the 2nd 11111-4444 inside. | [11:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | it doesn't recurse through this process tho. | [11:44] |
| diana_coman: | oh | [11:44] |
| jurov: | time to throw alloca() into it | [11:45] |
| diana_coman: | but then why the 9999 limit in the first place if it doesn't truly enforce it in practice anyway all the time? | [11:45] |
| diana_coman: | weird stuff | [11:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | mixed bag. | [11:47] |
| jurov: | "9999 ought to be enough for anybody." | [11:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | eh actually the design demands infinite stacks, will eventually be displayed as 99mn or w/e | [11:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | we're just not there yet. | [11:49] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, I have everything for 100 adzes whenever you are in town (it's ~120q the stuff but that's still undercraft for you) | [11:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | doing a large cr cs run atm, prolly tonight. | [11:51] |
| diana_coman: | kk, still waiting on wyrd for the output on another ltf run so that I can get another 100 pickaxes I think | [11:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | cool | [11:52] |
| danielpbarron: | oh hey, i just got loot from tinkering a bundle that had the same quality as my output | [12:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | sweet huh | [12:01] |
| jurov: | what bundle? | [12:25] |
| danielpbarron: | stone adze | [12:51] |
| diana_coman: | oh, you making the tool yourself danielpbarron ? what q do you tinker at? | [12:56] |
| diana_coman: | oh wow, 109? so losing what, 1/3 in durability? | [13:16] |
| danielpbarron: | losing? | [14:01] |
| diana_coman: | compared to the case when MP would make the tools | [14:05] |
| danielpbarron: | if Mircea wants this exp he can make me an offer | [14:05] |
| diana_coman: | lol | [14:05] |
| diana_coman: | if it's for xp, why tools exactly but whatevs | [14:05] |
| danielpbarron: | two birds | [14:06] |
| diana_coman: | well, you basically value the xp at that 1/3 of the tool | [14:18] |
| jurov: | yep, why don't you buy tinker/sortage buffs from mircea? | [14:23] |
| jurov: | interesting how every player has strikingly different take on this | [14:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | innit ? | [14:25] |
| diana_coman: | I think it's more the context that makes one take more appealing than another to a player as I know I keep having to make this kind of choice (do I value the xp on this more? or the durability? etc) | [14:41] |
| danielpbarron: | diana_coman> well, you basically value the xp at that 1/3 of the tool << also my saved sanity in not having to negotiate every last thing with other players, and also i'm getting not-low-quality petrified things | [14:42] |
| danielpbarron: | jurov> yep, why don't you buy tinker/sortage buffs from mircea? << do what now? I'm way too high rank to benefit from any skillbooks | [14:43] |
| jurov: | iirc there are some skill items to go to level 200? | [15:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | 400 even | [15:08] |
| danielpbarron: | i'm over 400 in tinkering | [15:08] |
| danielpbarron: | and i don't think the sortage book for 100-200 exists yet | [15:08] |
| jurov: | and sortage? | [15:08] |
| jurov: | oh that | [15:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | i'm ALMOST 400 sortage. | [15:08] |
| danielpbarron: | crazy | [15:08] |
| Birdman: | 368k heard danielpbarron | [16:24] |
| jurov: | Birdman do you auction 50k or 9999? | [16:37] |
| Birdman: | I'll acuction 50k at that starting price | [16:38] |
| Birdman: | you mean the cft bps yeah? | [16:38] |
| jurov: | i'm confused | [16:38] |
| jurov: | you have 2 auctions? | [16:38] |
| Birdman: | yes | [16:38] |
| danielpbarron: | current auction is for tool blueprints | [16:39] |
| jurov: | and the cft one is closed? | [16:40] |
| Birdman: | So, auctioning 50k cft bps of varying qualities between 30-40 for 1mn ending in 24 hours | [16:41] |
| danielpbarron: | lol 1mn | [16:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | what's that, like 300\% ? | [16:42] |
| danielpbarron: | more even | [16:43] |
| danielpbarron: | that wasn't a bid by me | [16:43] |
| danielpbarron: | just to clarify | [16:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | sadly we have nfi how hard to get will these be. | [16:44] |
| danielpbarron: | well i still have quite a few stacks | [16:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | i got some too yet yeah | [16:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | it's what kept me from the tool bp auction too. nfi wtf. | [16:44] |
| jurov: | Birdman pm | [16:45] |
| Birdman: | new mining tools flooded market, not more bps loot, mp just got a remark of grass, figured it was a good time to dump | [16:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | the reasoning is solid. | [16:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | also, i will be digging up my OTHER grass remarkable. so there! | [16:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | Birdman it's pretty clear at this point no more bps will be made for a while, so might as well sit on them. maybe try chaining it after sundayu's s.mg auction or somesuch | [16:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | people DO use cft, and bps, so the stocks are drawing down. i lost like 10\% this week | [16:47] |
| danielpbarron: | and maybe try starting the auction at base value !! | [16:47] |
| Birdman: | danielpbarron ill try bv when im selling to an npc alright? | [16:48] |
| Birdman: | but yes i could see bps appreciating, but the auction still stands if theres interest | [16:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | this is really not how auctions work tho | [16:50] |
| diana_coman: | I also have cft bps quite a few, so not interested in that | [16:51] |
| danielpbarron: | if neither myself Mircea or Diana are willing to place the first bid, the auction is kinda dead in the water, no? | [16:52] |
| diana_coman: | <Birdman> new mining tools flooded market <- ?? what? | [16:52] |
| Birdman: | im ok with that | [16:52] |
| Birdman: | ehh meant mining skills | [16:52] |
| diana_coman: | where's that flood of new mining tools? | [16:52] |
| diana_coman: | oh, lol | [16:52] |
| Birdman: | lj and mining etc lol | [16:52] |
| danielpbarron: | (mining is for sale in Daniel's Shop) | [16:53] |
| Birdman: | bare handed is working out pretty damn well for me | [16:53] |
| diana_coman: | good for you then, there's still demand for resources for sure anyway | [16:54] |
| diana_coman: | <mircea_popescu> people DO use cft, and bps, so the stocks are drawing down. i lost like 10\% this week <- the sad thing is that I'm not even sure at this point if I won't run out of screens (hence lbn) before running out of cft/tool bps | [16:56] |
| diana_coman: | it's more of a contest of what is going to be the first shortage | [16:56] |
| danielpbarron: | sits happily on his fairly decent stockpile of bits and threads | [16:56] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron, you have no idea how many the bot eats when I let it loose like this | [16:57] |
| diana_coman: | what is fairly decent, 1mn of each? | [16:57] |
| danielpbarron: | idk how you get yours hands on so many tools | [16:57] |
| danielpbarron: | enough to last for months i would guess | [16:57] |
| danielpbarron: | tools are the more limiting factor | [16:57] |
| diana_coman: | I bought out electron long time ago for one thing | [16:57] |
| danielpbarron: | barehanded uses them very slowly | [16:57] |
| danielpbarron: | you are still using those tools? | [16:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol as someone say, "interesting how widely divergent everyone's conclusions are" | [16:57] |
| diana_coman: | well yes, I am sure I would have enough lbn/cft for barehanded mining | [16:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | atm i'm stickmining cr. | [16:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | just ftr. | [16:58] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron> you are still using those tools? <- yes, I bought a shitton of them at that time, lol | [16:58] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, that's a VERY nice thing to do, I know | [16:58] |
| danielpbarron: | what's so nice about it | [16:59] |
| diana_coman: | the xp! the output! | [16:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | 40 sticks in, about 2k cr. pretty shitty. | [16:59] |
| danielpbarron: | i only use sticks myself when i just need something real quick and don't feel like waiting for someone else to trade it to me | [16:59] |
| diana_coman: | oh, yuck | [16:59] |
| diana_coman: | and how many ords mircea_popescu ? | [16:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | i mean yes it's 3.5 or so mn worth of cr in there | [16:59] |
| danielpbarron: | i don't remember the last time i got an ord with a stick | [16:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | for barely 1mn worth of cs. | [16:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman like 6 | [17:00] |
| diana_coman: | I did some time ago quite a few runs of cs exploring and they were really good overall | [17:00] |
| danielpbarron: | seems to me a way better use is to have noob get and ord virtually 1:1 | [17:00] |
| diana_coman: | well so then what is shitty in fact mircea_popescu - you can't know the total anyway until you build the ords | [17:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | i am building the ords. | [17:00] |
| diana_coman: | 6 out of 40 does sound ugly though | [17:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | i came here to build 25 ords. | [17:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | and by god i will. | [17:01] |
| danielpbarron: | i build my ords to but i have noobs gather them for me | [17:01] |
| diana_coman: | wait, so is the 2k cr out of smalls/tinies only or including ords so far? | [17:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | i need high cr. | [17:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman incl ords. | [17:01] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron, my data shows that noob ords are quite constant in value and below what I get ; on the other hand my ords vary more | [17:02] |
| danielpbarron: | i could probably get so many cr in a few days barehanded | [17:02] |
| diana_coman: | oh, if it's including ords then yeah, kind of ugly | [17:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah well if i spend a few days on this nothing will ever get done. | [17:02] |
| danielpbarron: | diana_coman, that may be, but if i use the stick myself it'll be all smalls, which is notably less yield than noob ords | [17:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | i wanna build these 37 screen bps already, and i need more us for mining r's | [17:03] |
| diana_coman: | + danielpbarron your cr is lower value so you'd probably get same number faster , true, but that's missing the point | [17:03] |
| danielpbarron: | not that much lower | [17:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | what q do you get daniel ? | [17:03] |
| danielpbarron: | well yeah i guess quite a bit lower \% wise | [17:03] |
| danielpbarron: | i get basics over 150 | [17:03] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron> diana_coman, that may be, but if i use the stick myself it'll be all smalls, which is notably less yield than noob ords <- my view on this is that it depends on the length of the run you consider basically | [17:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | this is 228. | [17:04] |
| diana_coman: | I never got ONLY smalls for sure | [17:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | and it makes a fucking diff - i cook at 149 ffs | [17:04] |
| diana_coman: | AND noobs miss on rares | [17:04] |
| Birdman: | <mircea_popescu>atm i'm stickmining cr. << ever need a decent gatherer for some cs ording let me know | [17:04] |
| diana_coman: | which makes it very costly actually | [17:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah Birdman but i need it high q. | [17:04] |
| danielpbarron: | why so inclined to overcraft now that no blueprint loot though? | [17:04] |
| Birdman: | mhm thats what im sayin, my gathering is nothing to scoff at whilist still getting 100\% ords | [17:04] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, I think he means that he'd get one ord for each cs | [17:04] |
| diana_coman: | you can then build them | [17:05] |
| Birdman: | pushing 175, about q80 enums | [17:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah but they are lower ords. | [17:05] |
| danielpbarron: | speaking of which, Birdman come get some sticks so you can get me those ords | [17:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | i'd really like a big hit already. curious what cr remarkable is. | [17:05] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, what I was saying earlier | [17:05] |
| Birdman: | danielpbarron im in town | [17:05] |
| danielpbarron: | alight, once this adze is done | [17:06] |
| Birdman: | and yeah i get it mircea_popescu, but getting all ords might outweigh the slightly better output | [17:06] |
| Birdman: | from doing it yourself | [17:06] |
| diana_coman: | I still get basics at 181, but it will probably go down if mircea_popescu gets his big hit, lol | [17:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman did it drop when i hit the grass ? | [17:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | Birdman maybe. i udnno. | [17:06] |
| danielpbarron: | idk why you guys are so against building someone else's claims | [17:06] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron, I'm not against that, not at all | [17:06] |
| Birdman: | its still not been proven to me that mine are worth less | [17:07] |
| danielpbarron: | sure sounds like it | [17:07] |
| diana_coman: | nope, I did it and sometimes do it | [17:07] |
| diana_coman: | just not *always* and certainly NOT as a generic "best" strategy | [17:07] |
| diana_coman: | because it's not overall/objectively best | [17:07] |
| diana_coman: | it has it's uses | [17:07] |
| diana_coman: | that's all | [17:07] |
| danielpbarron: | you know you can get remarkables with basic tools, even barehanded | [17:07] |
| danielpbarron: | i don'tk now why you would waste sticks trying to get these | [17:07] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu> diana_coman did it drop when i hit the grass ? <- it dropped 1 q point on farming | [17:07] |
| diana_coman: | which is a killer | [17:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh | [17:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | not so bad tho. | [17:08] |
| diana_coman: | I don't really know on basics because at the same time I had increased a bit my sortage through tinkering | [17:08] |
| danielpbarron: | yeah i lost a point on lumber too | [17:08] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, BAD actually | [17:08] |
| diana_coman: | 1q point in farming is HUGE | [17:08] |
| danielpbarron: | you must be a bad farmer | [17:08] |
| danielpbarron: | i have a pretty easy time getting lumberjack up | [17:08] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, clearly | [17:08] |
| diana_coman: | I also have an easy time getting mining up, getting lj up | [17:09] |
| diana_coman: | it's only bloody farming that is a mess, lol | [17:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | delete your characters more like DicePower | [17:09] |
| danielpbarron: | it feels so far like maybe i'm not as good at mining, but i haven't built nearly enough to know | [17:09] |
| diana_coman: | <mircea_popescu> delete your characters more like DicePower <- yes!!!! | [17:09] |
| danielpbarron: | but with lumber i get crazy good hit rates if i find a good spot | [17:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | the other problem is that i keep reading "small cunty rock" and doing double takes | [17:09] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron, I suspect that's more depending on the spot, lol | [17:10] |
| diana_coman: | bwahahaha the cunt is in the mind of the reader | [17:10] |
| diana_coman: | or what was it | [17:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | so it is. | [17:10] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron, I get crazy good hit rates on wpl for that matter | [17:10] |
| diana_coman: | so in this sense farming is good | [17:10] |
| diana_coman: | very good, lol | [17:10] |
| danielpbarron: | so what's the big deal | [17:11] |
| diana_coman: | but that doesn't help if the q doesn't move even with 8 ranks up AND moreover 1 rank up in farming means 2*24 hours of building basically | [17:11] |
| danielpbarron: | yeah i can get a q point in lumber from like.. a few ranks of lumberjack and building combined | [17:13] |
| diana_coman: | there, but the thing is that I keep track and I am comparing | [17:13] |
| diana_coman: | and so far farming fares worst for some reason | [17:13] |
| danielpbarron: | it depends on other players to you know? | [17:13] |
| diana_coman: | in terms of how many q points per ranks etc | [17:13] |
| diana_coman: | I know it does, I have nfi HOW it does | [17:13] |
| danielpbarron: | it's virtually impossible to know exactly how your rank effected the quality | [17:13] |
| danielpbarron: | you are always fighting against other players ranking up | [17:13] |
| danielpbarron: | i noticed this over last night as we both crafted shaped slags | [17:13] |
| diana_coman: | but in any case, wouldn't it make more sense that farming was then easier to rank up since I seem to be the only one going at it? | [17:13] |
| diana_coman: | are you ranking up in farming? | [17:13] |
| danielpbarron: | you kept bumping my quality down to 108 | [17:13] |
| danielpbarron: | i don't have farming | [17:13] |
| diana_coman: | so then? | [17:13] |
| danielpbarron: | i'm saving those skill items for a sacrifice | [17:13] |
| diana_coman: | that's my point: I would understand to see it in mining or lj | [17:13] |
| diana_coman: | as you are ranking up in them too | [17:13] |
| diana_coman: | but not in farming where I am alone | [17:13] |
| danielpbarron: | hanbot probably has it | [17:13] |
| danielpbarron: | not a hard one to get | [17:14] |
| diana_coman: | I don't think she was even online nearly as much though so I really doubt she ranked farming up more than you have ranked up lj for instance | [17:14] |
| danielpbarron: | idk, there were plenty of times i saw her running back and forth from town (a sign she had a low rank new skill) | [17:14] |
| diana_coman: | well, if it's low rank, then no, she's nowhere that close, lol | [17:15] |
| diana_coman: | anyway, on the very bright side of lj, the skill is very easy to rank up not least because basically ALL It's ordinaries are easily built ffs | [17:18] |
| diana_coman: | compare that with 4 out of 7 farming ordinaries that take either canines or st | [17:18] |
| danielpbarron: | mining has some easy ones too | [17:18] |
| diana_coman: | yes, it has | [17:19] |
| danielpbarron: | eggs shells and skins | [17:19] |
| diana_coman: | well, the dcs is prolly easiest in mining really | [17:19] |
| diana_coman: | which even feeds then nicely into the pn for lj | [17:19] |
| diana_coman: | on the other hand, farming has the wpl which can be built but still with 7 tlc (and tlc ord takes st so no-no) | [17:20] |
| diana_coman: | and lh which takes 7md which I might be fine at getting now with lj, but otherwise I was quite stuck on | [17:21] |
| diana_coman: | anyway | [17:21] |
| danielpbarron: | for me the best is whichever one uses mollusc :D | [17:21] |
| danielpbarron: | super mega overcraft ftw | [17:21] |
| danielpbarron: | i think it was eggs | [17:21] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, well, I don't have that option | [17:21] |
| danielpbarron: | or snakeskin | [17:21] |
| diana_coman: | why not moss? | [17:22] |
| danielpbarron: | also nice | [17:22] |
| diana_coman: | it takes 3 molluscs and it's easiest to get | [17:22] |
| danielpbarron: | i have enough moss lol | [17:22] |
| danielpbarron: | hm.. | [17:22] |
| danielpbarron: | ah, harlots and clovers | [17:22] |
| danielpbarron: | not so easy | [17:22] |
| diana_coman: | anyway, as I said I don't have any huge q stuff nor ways to get it so that's not an option for me | [17:22] |
| danielpbarron: | ords rank me up so fast one time i accidentally wasted exp | [17:24] |
| diana_coman: | being too ranked up one day, danielpbarron leaked xp!! | [17:25] |
| diana_coman: | makes for some eulora-news title :))) | [17:25] |
| danielpbarron: | one day?? more like one.. 10 minute interval | [17:26] |
| diana_coman: | but yeah, I built my old tpt ords and I did waste some xp at some point for lack of paying enough attention to it | [17:26] |
| danielpbarron: | "oh i can do a couple more before going to town.." *gets to town* "!! WTF !!"" | [17:26] |
| danielpbarron: | building of all things | [17:26] |
| diana_coman: | ah, sucks | [17:26] |
| danielpbarron: | goes up faster for me at this point | [17:26] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, for me too | [17:27] |
| diana_coman: | and cheaper, lol | [17:27] |
| diana_coman: | curious how long it keeps going so nicely | [17:27] |
| Birdman: | whats on the auction blockfor 21st? | [17:45] |
| danielpbarron: | doesn't it say? | [17:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | birdman has a special power - asking this type of question. oh and making statements that miss all the datapoints. two! two super powers. these two and making auctions nobody wants to bid in. THREE! | [17:46] |
| Birdman: | give it time mircea_popescu, i may suprise you with a fourth | [17:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | hehe | [17:47] |
| danielpbarron: | hahahaha | [17:48] |
| danielpbarron: | the early drama over "rating wars" that got me unlorded for a time makes sense now ? | [17:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | i dun even recall this. | [17:49] |
| danielpbarron: | is the only lord to have been removed and re-added | [17:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | ha, that's pretty cool | [17:50] |
| danielpbarron: | i was on the original list, although it no longer exists for some reason | [17:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | iirc the original list was drawn on someone's back at conf 1 | [17:52] |
| danielpbarron: | there was a trilema article (too) | [17:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | im pretty sure no trilema article ever published disappeared | [17:52] |
| danielpbarron: | i think it was this one http://trilema.com/2014/bitcoin-assets-m/ and it got changed | [17:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah | [17:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | so basically ~100 sticks is a solid day's work at mining. | [17:58] |
| diana_coman: | fully expects to wake up tomorrow to a drop in q on building | [17:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | i've n ot been managing much so far. coupla k cr whassat. | [18:00] |
| diana_coman: | precisely, lol | [18:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm ?! | [18:00] |
| diana_coman: | not yet, will follow | [18:01] |
| diana_coman: | it's not as if you'll give up or something before it does, lol | [18:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | hahaha that's a point eh. | [18:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | aaabd the remarkable has been found. | [18:22] |
| Birdman: | well done | [18:29] |
| Birdman: | i can pretty much guarantee i wouldn't have found you one of those | [18:30] |
| Birdman: | danielpbarron got another craft table? | [18:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | Birdman that's the thing - this run was badly underwater, maybe by 1mn or so. but once i found the remarkable - it's in profit, maybe by a whole million. | [18:36] |
| Birdman: | right, though im still pretty iffy on whether or not my ords < yours or w/e. That 'trail' we did was all over the place. we didnt even use the same gathering too ffs. BUT my gathering is pretty decent as it were so it was just a friendly offer. | [18:37] |
| Birdman: | whats your gathing if you dont mind? | [18:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | 373 | [18:38] |
| Birdman: | damn, whats your lowest skill? | [18:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | uh | [18:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | I HAVE NO LOWEST SKILL | [18:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | all my skills are higher than the others. | [18:56] |
| Birdman: | did numbers get changed in the bouq line? i feel im getting more exp from shredding | [18:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | and in a new record, server clocked 510537 play-seconds during the past day. | [19:22] |
| hanbot: | <danielpbarron> hanbot probably has it < fwiw, i ain't no farmer | [19:33] |
| Birdman: | danielpbarron you win the tool bps | [19:37] |
| danielpbarron: | kool | [20:25] |
| Birdman: | use em wisely | [20:36] |
| Birdman: | shiny rock with a not so much higher base value is incredibly harder to bare handed for my dude, going on 80 tries with only one tiny hit. Which was also the on the first try | [20:37] |
| Birdman: | did mp dig it all up at this spot? | [20:40] |
| danielpbarron: | you're not the only one to notice low hit rate on shiny rock | [20:42] |
| danielpbarron: | when can i pick those up? | [20:42] |
| Birdman: | it should be less than grass, but this is pretty ridiculous | [20:42] |
| Birdman: | you in town now? | [20:42] |
| danielpbarron: | yeah, although if you're not done with the ords i'll wait for both | [20:43] |
| Birdman: | havent even started | [20:43] |
| danielpbarron: | oh | [20:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | is there a market for high q sr ? | [20:43] |
| danielpbarron: | ok then now works | [20:43] |
| Birdman: | omw | [20:43] |
| Birdman: | mircea_popescu depends on the \% over bv | [20:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | i'd sell at 125. | [20:43] |
| Birdman: | hm, then i guess i'd buy it, any flotsam with it? | [20:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | nope. | [20:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | you selling back the slag you make ? | [20:44] |
| Birdman: | was gonna make ibs -> ltf | [20:44] |
| Birdman: | but if you want the slag then i'll do that | [20:44] |
| danielpbarron: | i'd buy the ltf | [20:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah, i'd buy ibs too. | [20:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | low ltf you mean danielpbarron ? | [20:44] |
| danielpbarron: | yeah | [20:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | so then make him ibs | [20:45] |
| danielpbarron: | actually i got all the stuff to make ltf | [20:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | always need more stuff! | [20:45] |
| Birdman: | wel it was either that or i was gonna make the ibs and the ltf but taking into consideration the bp shortage it might not be as economical as it was in the past to tinker things up the chain without over craft | [20:46] |
| Birdman: | aaand as far as it goes id rather be making things for mp, given his calculation is the only way imma profit really | [20:48] |
| Birdman: | unless it turns out these numina will be able to be sold for more than bv | [20:48] |
| Birdman: | if anyone has high q flotsam im buying | [20:50] |
| Birdman: | mircea_popescu ill take 5k sr | [20:50] |
| danielpbarron: | i might be willing to outbid him, ask first | [20:50] |
| danielpbarron: | huh, i have a lot of high q shiny rock and not a lot of high q flotsam | [20:51] |
| danielpbarron: | so that settles that then | [20:51] |
| Birdman: | about to have the same problem here | [20:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | fltosam is a bitch | [20:55] |
| Birdman: | <mircea_popescu>Birdman that's the thing - this run was badly underwater, maybe by 1mn or so. but once i found the remarkable - it's in profit, maybe by a whole million. << my reasoning behind all claims being created equally | [22:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm? | [22:29] |
| Birdman: | you may be better off using cs because you have a decent chance to hit a remark or sizeable, im just a guaranteed ord because the tool carries so much value | [22:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | i never hit a sizeable to date | [22:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | but half a dozen remarks, yes. and they're pretty juicy from the one i've seen | [22:43] |
| Birdman: | why's flotsam a pain anyways? | [22:58] |
| Birdman: | seems the ord ingreds are relatively easy to get | [22:58] |
| Birdman: | md dcs ss and wm | [22:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | heavy | [22:59] |
| Birdman: | i see | [23:04] |
| DicePower: | Sooooo | [23:19] |
| DicePower: | The one thing I don't actually see in the instructions for compiling Eulora on Windows | [23:19] |
| DicePower: | is the code itself. | [23:19] |
| DicePower: | Is CrystalSpace the name of the code project? | [23:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | mno. what are you looking at, link ? | [23:21] |
| DicePower: | http://www.eulorum.org/Windows | [23:22] |
| DicePower: | I'm probably just missing it | [23:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | i have nfi how building works in visual studio this thing. the actual source is in http://minigame.bz/eulora/binaries/ | [23:24] |
| DicePower: | ahh okay thanks | [23:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | i imagine " Load the wkstypical.sln project from Eulora" does the same thing but no idea | [23:24] |
| DicePower: | Is it the same code for all platforms? | [23:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | well yes. | [23:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | jurov took that and turned into windows binaries. i imagine he must have a github somewhere with the whole pile of it. | [23:26] |
| DicePower: | Okay, maybe better to ask him for it then. | [23:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | did you actually follow those steps there ? | [23:27] |
| DicePower: | No | [23:27] |
| DicePower: | I just wanted to see the code | [23:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | how about doing that first ? ah. so there it is then. | [23:28] |
| DicePower: | To see if I can understand what is whta | [23:28] |
| DicePower: | Will do that I suppose, although I expect I will download it all and not be able to find my way around the code effectively enough :P | [23:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | it is pretty hairy. | [23:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | but, there's broadly speaking a future for people who know the code, making mods and whatnot. | [23:29] |
| DicePower: | I was going to try to modify it to log in, delete characters, etc. automatically. | [23:30] |
| DicePower: | Instead of making a bot separately. | [23:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | that's what a bot is. | [23:37] |
| DicePower: | Well, a bot is normally a program that interacts with the game client, right? | [23:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | read foxy. it's the same thing, patch upon the client files. | [23:38] |
| DicePower: | Oh Foxy is a modified game client? | [23:38] |
| DicePower: | nice | [23:38] |
| DicePower: | I guess that means you can play the whole game in debug mode in VS lol | [23:42] |
| DicePower: | That oughta be fun. | [23:42] |
| DicePower: | I'm new to this FOSS MMO thing heh | [23:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | sure. | [23:45] |
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