#eulora Logs for 05 Feb 2016



February 5th, 2016 by Diana Coman
Birdman: i [00:44]
Birdman: i'd be happy paying 120k per [00:44]
mircea_popescu: k i guess you can have a coupla then Birdman [01:37]
danielpbarron: hi kronicblazer [01:38]
kronicblazer: hey [01:39]
danielpbarron: who are you? [01:40]
kronicblazer: someone trying to find out what this game is [01:41]
kronicblazer: does this game have a bitcointalk thread? [01:42]
danielpbarron: it has its own wiki [01:42]
danielpbarron: see the channel topic [01:42]
mircea_popescu: does webirc even show the topic ? [01:43]
mircea_popescu: http://www.eulorum.org/Eulora and http://logs.minigame.bz ftr kronicblazer [01:43]
kronicblazer: webirc shows it [01:43]
mircea_popescu: a cool then [01:44]
kronicblazer: around how many active players are there usually [01:45]
danielpbarron: enough to run daily auctions with trade volume in the quarter bitcoin range [01:47]
mircea_popescu: oh which reminds me [01:52]
mircea_popescu: selling 160 cs, d 20.2k, 5.04mn heard danielpbarron . eta 2:30pm ART. [01:52]
Birdman: When do you think they'll be made mircea_popescu [03:07]
mircea_popescu: well for instance right now [03:22]
mircea_popescu: Birdman [03:22]
Birdman: oh, how many can i buy? [03:23]
mircea_popescu: 2. [03:23]
Birdman: sounds sexy [03:23]
Birdman: trade you now? [03:24]
mircea_popescu: ya [03:24]
Birdman: got em, thanks [03:25]
mircea_popescu: emjoy [03:26]
Birdman: more screens anywhere on your list [03:27]
mircea_popescu: prolly in a coupla weeks [03:30]
mircea_popescu: no way you already used up the two ? [03:31]
Birdman: nah, but i will soon as i get some clogs [03:51]
Birdman: only has 240 uses, trying to shred like 2k times [03:52]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, can I haz toolkits too? [05:38]
mircea_popescu: selling 160 cs, d 20.2k, 5.04mn heard danielpbarron ; 6 BTK, d89.6k, opening 700k . eta 2:30pm ART. [08:54]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman danielpbarron jurov Birdman and whoever else may want toolkits. ^ [08:54]
mircea_popescu: it is ftr 10:55 am art here now, so a bit of a flash sale. [08:55]
diana_coman: 700k for the toolkits [08:55]
mircea_popescu: selling 160 cs, d 20.2k, 5.04mn heard danielpbarron ; 6 BTK, d89.6k, 700k heard diana_coman . eta 2:30pm ART. [08:55]
mircea_popescu: quite a thing to leave it overninght doing toolkits lol. [08:57]
mircea_popescu: my my have we come quite the way. [08:57]
diana_coman: ooo, indeed [09:02]
mircea_popescu: selling 160 cs, d 20.2k, 5.04mn heard danielpbarron ; 6 BTK, d89.6k, 700k heard diana_coman . eta 2:30pm ART. <<< sold, come and get 'em [13:02]
fghj: anybody got cft for sale? [13:13]
danielpbarron: fghj> anybody got cft for sale? << yes, ping me again if you still need [13:44]
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, i'm in town now [14:05]
danielpbarron: also i have some adzes for ya [14:05]
danielpbarron: quality 1 :D [14:06]
danielpbarron: i would buy more if you have them [14:06]
Alina-malina: Hello all [14:15]
Alina-malina: :D [14:15]
Alina-malina: no eulora on android? :-/ i could dedicate a separate android machine to it [14:16]
danielpbarron: oh hi [14:16]
Alina-malina: :) [14:16]
danielpbarron: can you code for android? [14:16]
danielpbarron: no reason Eulora shouldn't eventually be a command line thing [14:17]
danielpbarron: or any platform you can dream of for that matter [14:17]
danielpbarron: but what exactly is an "android machine" ? [14:17]
danielpbarron: i thought that was for smart fones [14:17]
Alina-malina: well, i have 2 options right now, android with tegra3 chipset and and an oldish asus desktop computer haha [14:17]
Alina-malina: yes android like tablet transformer [14:18]
danielpbarron: if you have actual metal, why not gentoo, or at the very least, an older nigbuntu [14:18]
Alina-malina: heh nigbuntu :D [14:18]
danielpbarron: i can't remember, did you ever register a gpg key with assbot? [14:18]
Alina-malina: erm lol no [14:18]
Alina-malina: i am new to bitcoin faucets [14:19]
danielpbarron: well no rush i guess, if you don't even have the game running yet. although it doesn't hurt to get yourself in the WoT even if not to play Eulora [14:19]
danielpbarron: sounds like your first priority should be getting a real operating system [14:20]
Alina-malina: ok heh, well i need to examin this eulora, i never heared of it before you mentioned it [14:20]
danielpbarron: after that it all just sorta falls into place [14:20]
Alina-malina: what is the benefit of eulora? [14:20]
Alina-malina: does it use computation or something? [14:20]
danielpbarron: it's fun, it's profitable [14:20]
danielpbarron: not really [14:20]
danielpbarron: there is a 3d world, but it's not like bleeding edge stuff [14:21]
danielpbarron: and you don't technically ~need~ to render the 3d world to do stuff [14:21]
danielpbarron: as there isn't yet any way to actually die [14:21]
danielpbarron: in the future when there is real death, you would probably want to see what's around you [14:21]
danielpbarron: the reason things have value is scarcity [14:22]
danielpbarron: the resources in the game through the efforts of players making correct decisions, and there is a limited number of players, and a limited amount of time they can do things [14:23]
Alina-malina: but where does the game gets its rewards from? [14:23]
danielpbarron: shareholders of S.MG (listed on MPEx) [14:23]
danielpbarron: the game server is supposed to be balanced to where everything breaks even [14:23]
danielpbarron: there is a loot pool that you can benefit from [14:24]
danielpbarron: and i suspect that until death is a thing, we can all sorta always grind up from nothing [14:24]
danielpbarron: and to give you some idea of how big that loot pool is (officially declared to be limitless), S.MG has assets worth close to 10k bitcoin [14:25]
Alina-malina: heh interesting [14:25]
danielpbarron: so i don't think we'll be exhausting that any time soon [14:25]
danielpbarron: of course it is possible to lose money in Eulora, and I think i'm the #1 at that [14:26]
danielpbarron: but I don't think noobs run the risk of losing money [14:26]
danielpbarron: you can actually deposit nothing and just get paid for your noob services [14:26]
Alina-malina: hmmm noob services, not actually understand what u mean by that lol [14:27]
danielpbarron: the way the game mechanics work, you usually want to pair up high with low. that means turning high quality into low quality, or low into high [14:27]
danielpbarron: we need noobs for the low end [14:28]
danielpbarron: profit is made on how big the difference [14:28]
danielpbarron: as a high rank tinkerer for example, i can take your low quality gathered resources and turn them into high quality products [14:28]
Alina-malina: heh [14:29]
danielpbarron: and therefor i'm willing to pay you more than they are actually worth [14:29]
Alina-malina: itsa a pitty there is no much stuff on internet or youtube, this would increase the users [14:30]
danielpbarron: sure there is [14:31]
danielpbarron: i'm in charge of that for the most part [14:31]
danielpbarron: althoguh i noticed youtube censors us or soemthing [14:31]
Alina-malina: well by searching Eulora it gives 4-5 results [14:31]
danielpbarron: if you search for Eulora it "helps you" by correcting the spelling to some other thing [14:31]
danielpbarron: and then you have to click "no i really meant Eulora" [14:31]
Alina-malina: yes [14:32]
danielpbarron: i have at least 10 videos out [14:32]
danielpbarron: one sec i'll link directly to my channel [14:32]
Alina-malina: some rock bands lol [14:32]
Alina-malina: ah i found 1 heh [14:32]
danielpbarron: yeah even if you spell it right it doesn't show up [14:32]
danielpbarron: if you search for Eulora MPEx it'll show up [14:33]
danielpbarron: or Eulora bitcoin [14:33]
danielpbarron: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEgelTQ0KJYS5CJdGEyU2QA [14:33]
danielpbarron: also, https://www.instagram.com/eulorian/ [14:33]
danielpbarron: and you may have already seen the twatter account [14:34]
Alina-malina: yes heh [14:34]
danielpbarron: most of the pictures are of me trading, which is most of what we all do anyway [14:34]
danielpbarron: when we're not running a bot for most of the day [14:34]
danielpbarron: that's why i sometimes have a delay when trading with people (if anyone was wondering) -- that's me trying to frame up the shot nice for social media [14:35]
Alina-malina: heh nice [14:35]
mircea_popescu: Alina-malina hey [14:36]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, you around for the toolkits trade? [14:37]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman yeah let me turn off this craft. be ~15 mins [14:38]
diana_coman: kk [14:39]
Alina-malina: hey mircea_popescu [14:39]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron quality 1 works. [14:39]
danielpbarron: is also around for cs [14:39]
mircea_popescu: Alina-malina how did you find the place ? [14:40]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, can I haz the cft too please? [14:40]
diana_coman: and I'll get out the grass [14:40]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman ain't made any. [14:40]
danielpbarron: it's 178 at 2k a pop, minus the 5.04 mn comes to : 4684000 i owe ? [14:40]
Alina-malina: mircea_popescu, daniel found me [14:40]
mircea_popescu: but ill take your used up cs. [14:40]
diana_coman: don't remmeber if there was anything else you wanted? low q basic resources or bps any? [14:40]
diana_coman: or 1 stack of high q wwb [14:41]
diana_coman: hi Alina-malina welcome [14:41]
mircea_popescu: resources, sure. 4 stacks, save till then [14:41]
danielpbarron: I saw Alina talking about some bitcoin faucet on twatter, where the "big payout" was something like 200 coppers, and I'm like.. "you know that's a single resource in Eulora.." [14:41]
diana_coman: heh, I'll get only the grass then at least do it with all the rest into cft as I'll end up running out of it entirely [14:41]
mircea_popescu: alright. [14:42]
danielpbarron: has cft [14:42]
diana_coman: oh wow, Alina-malina do come in as you'll get way more than that without much trouble [14:42]
Alina-malina: Balance =0.00008206 actually its already 8K satoshies ahahahha i do this 3 days i think, just wondering if they going to pay when the amount will reach 20K satoshies haha, so after i finish with this i will swith to Eulora, very interesting to me [14:44]
mircea_popescu: lol 8k coppers. i guess it almost buys a pickaxe or an adze or something [14:45]
Alina-malina: haha [14:45]
diana_coman: Alina-malina, have a read here or at least scan for the numbers (1 satoshi = 1 copper) http://www.dianacoman.com/2016/01/28/foxys-musings-on-click-slaves-vs-apprentices-and-their-choices/ [14:45]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron> althoguh i noticed youtube censors us or soemthing << how's that workl ? [14:46]
diana_coman: danielpbarron, I'll buy any quantity of cft > 110q at 125\% [14:46]
danielpbarron: i think my price comes out to a little over 125, is that ok? [14:47]
mircea_popescu: be specific! [14:47]
danielpbarron: my shop page is very specific [14:47]
mircea_popescu: ah right [14:48]
danielpbarron: 270 copper for 1 thread at 119 [14:48]
mircea_popescu: 126.05\% [14:48]
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu> danielpbarron> althoguh i noticed youtube censors us or something << how's that workl ? << there is some other thing named Eulora that gets to the top of the list [14:48]
mircea_popescu: ah. [14:48]
mircea_popescu: well, that won't last 4evar. [14:48]
danielpbarron: not just that, the stupid search always "corrects" the spelling to some yet other thing [14:49]
mircea_popescu: well, both those will be automatically fixed once it gets a little bigger. [14:50]
danielpbarron: Alina-malina, I get over 10k satoshi per day with my bezzle bag and golden goose [14:51]
diana_coman: danielpbarron, I'll just stick to 125\% [14:51]
danielpbarron: not that these are things you can get [14:51]
danielpbarron: heh my price works! [14:51]
Alina-malina: interesting [14:51]
danielpbarron: (i'm not trying to sell out) [14:51]
mircea_popescu: o hey you got the goose didn't you [14:51]
danielpbarron: it's not really once per day though, unless i hit the exact same time every day [14:51]
danielpbarron: but it usually drifts [14:51]
mircea_popescu: what did that go for, 10mn ? /me goes and looosk [14:51]
danielpbarron: 15 [14:51]
mircea_popescu: 15mn, not bad. [14:52]
danielpbarron: basically i paid for 5 years worth of it [14:52]
mircea_popescu: well no, because a year in it'll still be worth ~the same [14:52]
mircea_popescu: at least functionally [14:52]
diana_coman: I suspect what he means is that he gets his money back from using it in 5 years [14:52]
mircea_popescu: a that yeah. [14:52]
danielpbarron: and it's an true heirloom quality item for passing on to children if i ever have any [14:53]
danielpbarron: unlike an overpriced watch [14:53]
mircea_popescu: yeah, tissot or whatever doesn't shit a little money each day [14:54]
mircea_popescu: ok, diana_coman lets do the deed. [14:54]
Birdman: fghj want to do some work? [14:54]
fghj: I'm afraid I have to drag table up a hill first [14:55]
fghj: but yhen sure [14:55]
fghj: *then [14:55]
mircea_popescu: whatcha got in the table ? [14:55]
danielpbarron: i have smalls saved up but i'm kinda in a weird place where I want to use them myself all of a sudden [14:55]
danielpbarron: althoug, grass smalls, would be a waste perhaps [14:56]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron isn't it weird how that keeps changing btw ? [14:56]
danielpbarron: fghj, would you be interested in buying grass smalls for 10k each? [14:56]
fghj: >mp almost 20k of solid branches [14:56]
danielpbarron: i have 34 smalls of grass, one key goes to them all [14:56]
fghj: .danielpbarron I'm affraid in my case it's more efficient to dig new ones and build immiedetly using foxybot [14:57]
fghj: than piloting left and right [14:57]
diana_coman: chuckles [14:57]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman 17046 * 60 * .82 = 838663.2 - 720k for the tools = 138.6k [14:58]
mircea_popescu: did you have cs sticks ? [14:58]
diana_coman: oh drat, didn't take them out, will do [14:58]
danielpbarron: speaking of which, what were the numbers on those fruit smalls? [14:58]
mircea_popescu: fghj you putting it up for auction or what ? [14:58]
fghj: first up hill to grass then load grass then to town [14:58]
diana_coman: danielpbarron, I'm still waiting on wyrd who vanished yest lol [14:59]
fghj: then probably sell [14:59]
mircea_popescu: aite. [14:59]
danielpbarron: is ~still~ working on his own branches [14:59]
danielpbarron: here's a tip, don't put them in your storage [14:59]
Birdman: yeah screw that [14:59]
danielpbarron: not fun trying to take them back out [14:59]
Birdman: i learned the hard way with boulders [15:00]
Birdman: but alright i get some tool kits ready for ya [15:00]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman 200k ok for em ? [15:00]
diana_coman: sure [15:00]
danielpbarron: yeah i have a bunch of different qualities of boulders i can't be arsed to take out and mix [15:00]
mircea_popescu: and so you made money! [15:00]
Birdman: 740k on toolkits [15:00]
mircea_popescu: one sec ima prep the cs for danielpbarron then log off ofr your tool [15:00]
diana_coman: ahahaha, yeah [15:00]
diana_coman: kk [15:00]
mircea_popescu: it closed a while ago Birdman [15:00]
Birdman: yeah just noticed that [15:01]
Birdman: my bad [15:01]
diana_coman: afk a bit; will be back in 10-15 [15:01]
danielpbarron: i'd bid it up but i don't want to encourage non tuber teas from being made [15:01]
mircea_popescu: ready diana_coman ? [15:01]
fghj: pulling table of resources from underwater is hard work usually I get like 10 segfaults before dreaded hills... [15:01]
diana_coman: ah, yes [15:01]
diana_coman: got them thanks [15:02]
mircea_popescu: fghj ouch, why ? i didn't have a segfault in ~3 months [15:02]
danielpbarron: yeah usually the only time my client gets restarted is if i need to turn keys into bits, and i don't do that often if ever [15:02]
fghj: perhaps I'll recompile client with debug symbols and throw some dpastes somtime next week [15:03]
danielpbarron: and the one time i tripped over my mouse cable and the whole laptop fell upside down and froze [15:04]
mircea_popescu: trade me danielpbarron [15:04]
fghj: I should note that I dragged my debian through 3 hdds and 4 computors and loads of stuff in it might be borked [15:04]
fghj: try that with windows 7, It will die horribly when you change CPU in your laptop [15:05]
mircea_popescu: cheerios. [15:05]
danielpbarron: should i be concerned that the merchant value of these sticks is 0? [15:06]
mircea_popescu: uhh danielpbarron you got shortchanged, trade again for 40 more cs [15:06]
danielpbarron: they are high enough to work right? [15:06]
mircea_popescu: they should be. if not i fix free of charge. but 20.2k is what i have here in notes [15:06]
danielpbarron: cool, thanks [15:06]
mircea_popescu: selling 200 cs, d 20.2k, opening 5mn; 6 BTK, d89.6k, opening 700k. eta 2:30pm ART [15:08]
danielpbarron: 5 mn here [15:08]
danielpbarron: and 700k why not [15:09]
mircea_popescu: selling 200 cs, d 20.2k, 5mn heard danielpbarron ; 6 BTK, d89.6k, opening 700k. eta 2:30pm ART [15:09]
Birdman: 740k [15:10]
danielpbarron: Birdman, i got sticks for you to turn into ords whenever you want [15:10]
Birdman: alright sounds good [15:10]
Birdman: same deal? [15:10]
danielpbarron: do you have ords ready ? [15:10]
danielpbarron: sure [15:10]
Birdman: no, i dont [15:11]
danielpbarron: you have the 1 beetle at least [15:11]
Birdman: yeah [15:11]
danielpbarron: can you trade now? [15:11]
Birdman: had to burn two sticks to get pss ords to hold my shredding stuff [15:11]
Birdman: give me 15 [15:11]
danielpbarron: remember, unlock and lock those things like it's a bomb you're defusing [15:12]
mircea_popescu: lol srsly. [15:12]
danielpbarron: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr-8AP0To4k << how to handle exploration markers [15:13]
mircea_popescu: selling 200 cs, d 20.2k, 5mn heard danielpbarron ; 6 BTK, d89.6k, 740k heard Birdman . eta 2:30pm ART [15:13]
mircea_popescu: hanbot 1236 * 1.23 * 262 = 398313.36 [15:14]
danielpbarron: oh and Birdman the coinbase went through so if you're still looking to trade USD for coppers or whatever it was you wanted, that's a thing [15:16]
mircea_popescu: the who ? [15:16]
Birdman: thanks [15:17]
danielpbarron: i'm not saying people should use coinbase, but it works and I don't leave more than a coin in there at a time [15:18]
danielpbarron: but yeah to clarify, i don't mean that I mined my own block or whatever the actualy word 'coinbase' means [15:19]
mircea_popescu: ah [15:19]
mircea_popescu: ftr i need like 5k pss high q, anyone got ? [15:20]
mircea_popescu: lobbes- you around ? [15:21]
mircea_popescu: it would be really great if the bot handled auctions. that way a) i wouldn't have to remember them ; b) it could actually make a page of prices on the basis of what auctions closed. [15:21]
Birdman: danielpbarron ready to trade [15:25]
danielpbarron: lol i just started a stick myself to find out for sure what quality each uses [15:26]
danielpbarron: has anyone else noticed that the tool only needs to be in your hand when you start the explore [15:27]
danielpbarron: it will finish as expected even if you take the tool out [15:27]
danielpbarron: can even load up the next one [15:28]
danielpbarron: i guess this has something to do with how the quality is subtracted at the start, not the finish [15:28]
Birdman: hmm [15:28]
Birdman: thats interesting [15:28]
Birdman: but you cant move or explore in the same place twice [15:29]
Birdman: so its useless [15:29]
danielpbarron: it came in handy when i was using up the last little bit of quality on a bunch of tools without foxybot [15:29]
Birdman: i like to do the cs explore with the ord building though, thats pretty fruitful [15:29]
Birdman: anyone have bct to sell me? [15:33]
Birdman: so what ords do i use these on danielpbarron [15:57]
Birdman: do cs move your exp bar? [16:10]
danielpbarron: i didn't look [16:12]
danielpbarron: but probably [16:12]
danielpbarron: a little [16:12]
Birdman: still only takes me like 4 per level [16:12]
Birdman: could probably boost to 400 no sweat with em [16:13]
diana_coman: 6mn for the cs mircea_popescu [18:12]
mircea_popescu: selling 200 cs, d 20.2k, 6mn heard diana_coman ; 6 BTK, d89.6k, 740k heard Birdman . eta 2:30pm ART [18:17]
danielpbarron: 6.3 mn [18:19]
mircea_popescu: selling 200 cs, d 20.2k, 6.3mn heard danielpbarron ; 6 BTK, d89.6k, 740k heard Birdman . eta 2:30pm ART [18:21]
danielpbarron: fghj, i got some blueprint work for ya when you're free [18:26]
Birdman: if anyone wants to dump low q shredding instructions im buying [19:41]
Birdman: i'd pay 2x bv at anything under 20q [19:42]
mircea_popescu: those must be rare. [19:47]
Birdman: maybe i should just have a noob get me those as well [19:49]
Birdman: such a process sometimes [19:49]
mircea_popescu: well an expert sure as hell ain't making them. [19:52]
mircea_popescu: but for my curiosity, why would you want low q ? [19:52]
mircea_popescu: you can just replace 99 low q ones with 9 high q ones, same difference. [19:52]
Birdman: for the head [19:53]
Birdman: in fact im making sure my over craft is only slightly above my bouq q [19:53]
Birdman: i'd need to charge ~ 80 for every lbn to break even im thinking, so im using i think 7 of the commons, 2 for every uncommon, and 1 for the rare bps [19:54]
Birdman: to keep costs low [19:54]
Birdman: my goal isnt the loot and the lbn are qi if im not mistaken, and you get 103 of em no matter how you slice it, so i will get max value and exp this way [19:55]
Birdman: at the cost of less value from the tool use [19:55]
mircea_popescu: ah. then why not just use 1s ? [20:24]
Birdman: need to make bundle q to go a bit over my q produced for exp [20:25]
mircea_popescu: i suppose you get some replenishing bp loot if you overcraft a little huh. [20:25]
Birdman: yeah [20:25]
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure you get some xp no matter what. [20:25]
mircea_popescu: i dinged making q7 bundles into q 150 items etc. [20:25]
Birdman: yeah but my theory is the best exp output is using 1:1 on bundle to output q [20:26]
Birdman: and seeing as th tool costs something, thats the best way [20:26]
mircea_popescu: yeah i can see teh logic. [20:26]
mircea_popescu: selling 200 cs, d 20.2k, 6.3mn heard danielpbarron ; 6 BTK, d89.6k, 740k heard Birdman . eta 2:30pm ART [20:27]

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