mircea_popescu: | :) | [00:00] |
mircea_popescu: | go mining for a bit, i'll write you a book of crafting later. | [00:00] |
danielpbarron: | eh the moss i have is good enough. lobbes when you get the tinkering skill come to me for a package to craft | [00:07] |
lobbes: | k | [00:07] |
mircea_popescu: | so lobbes , in recognition of all your work with the log and bot and such, ima give you a gift. at your option, you can have either : | [01:13] |
mircea_popescu: | 22 Petrified Bubbles, or else | [01:14] |
mircea_popescu: | 198 Slithy Toves, or else | [01:14] |
mircea_popescu: | 509 Dead Molluscs | [01:14] |
mircea_popescu: | lemme know which you want. | [01:14] |
lobbes: | oh gad, hmm | [01:14] |
mircea_popescu: | >D | [01:14] |
lobbes: | I shall pick Slithy Toves | [01:16] |
lobbes: | lemme make my way back to village | [01:16] |
mircea_popescu: | alrighty, onesec. | [01:17] |
lobbes: | found/built my first claim too, got some three-pointed thorns (no idea if that's good, but it is fun) | [01:17] |
mircea_popescu: | cool! | [01:19] |
mircea_popescu: | lobbes im same place. | [01:23] |
lobbes: | k, on my way | [01:24] |
mircea_popescu: | btw, if anyone's got improved cruddy hoe bps, i'm buying. | [01:25] |
mircea_popescu: | eeenjoy! | [01:27] |
lobbes: | danielpbarron: I'm off to bed, but I hope to get some euloran fun in this weekend. Just got tinkering skill, so I'll ping you about that crafting | [01:42] |
diana_coman: | lobbes ping me when you are around if you want to build some mushroom claims (I'll provide everything, you build them and give me the shrooms; you get the xp to level up and I'll give you 10\% if you hit big loot) | [02:03] |
mircea_popescu: | i wonder if there ever existed a game where noobs were in this much demand. | [02:20] |
diana_coman: | mircea_popescu I guess I'll take that deal on chetty sticks if it's still on | [02:28] |
mircea_popescu: | alrighty, what you got ? | [02:29] |
diana_coman: | I would prolly have the moss, but not the shrooms - that'll have to wait until lobbes gets in ideally | [02:29] |
diana_coman: | if he doesn't want to do it, then until I catch someone else | [02:29] |
diana_coman: | jurov> diana_coman: these small cdgs are waiting for someone? <- I think those are some I gave the keys+enums to hanbot long time ago, not sure if she ever got around to do anything with them | [02:42] |
DianaComan: | mircea_popescu from rummaging around my storage, here's what I have: 12wm 140q + 36sm 157q 12Ã\u00971.4Ã\u0097778+36Ã\u0097157Ã\u00971.52 = 21660 so I guess that'd be for 1 stick or something; not sure if you wanted that or only the full set of sticks | [04:00] |
DianaComan: | in any case, if I ever get a noob to build the wm claims I guess it actually makes more sense to sell the resulting wms (q below 80 I guess) on their own rather than part of such deal | [04:01] |
DianaComan: | I have a complete package for making 30 ppb and corresponding 10 toothpaste, q is around 162 so anyone under that interested? jurov? hanbot? mod6? | [08:14] |
danielpbarron: | DianaComan, what's the highest quality you can get on moss? What do you charge to build some claims if i provide the keys, enumerations, and ingredients? | [09:08] |
DianaComan: | currently I seem to get on moss 139q only, danielpbarron; happy with that? | [09:09] |
danielpbarron: | oh huh | [09:10] |
danielpbarron: | i have enough around that q already | [09:10] |
danielpbarron: | i thought maybe you got it around 200 | [09:10] |
DianaComan: | q went down sharply lately | [09:10] |
DianaComan: | it's recovering now, but it will take a while | [09:11] |
DianaComan: | so maybe in a few days, lol | [09:11] |
danielpbarron: | is moss not something farming improves? | [09:11] |
DianaComan: | no | [09:11] |
danielpbarron: | ah, then my question is for mircea_popescu | [09:11] |
DianaComan: | moss is mining | [09:11] |
danielpbarron: | he probably gets higher | [09:12] |
DianaComan: | doubt that, but maybe | [09:12] |
danielpbarron: | are you the highest in building? | [09:12] |
DianaComan: | I don't know exactly since I don't know other people's levels | [09:13] |
danielpbarron: | 139 is the highest moss quality?? | [09:13] |
DianaComan: | did I mention all qualities went down sharply over the last few days? lol | [09:13] |
danielpbarron: | i noticed | [09:13] |
DianaComan: | I still have my own moss at 153 q, yes | [09:13] |
DianaComan: | but that was mined by me ...some days ago | [09:13] |
danielpbarron: | i used to get over 150 quality building | [09:13] |
danielpbarron: | now i get 94 | [09:14] |
DianaComan: | aha, so there | [09:14] |
DianaComan: | it's not only for you it went down | [09:14] |
danielpbarron: | i hadn't really been building | [09:14] |
danielpbarron: | lobbes, ping me when you are around | [09:14] |
danielpbarron: | my package is as good as it's gonna get | [09:14] |
danielpbarron: | gonna give you high quality ingredients to make some improbable oil; I want the resulting oil and the looted blueprints | [09:15] |
DianaComan: | actually looking back it seems I had the moss over 170 before q started going down quickly | [09:19] |
DianaComan: | not that it helps in anyway right now | [09:19] |
jurov: | DianaComan: when my output got over 100 loot declined much (don't have exact data), so I'll pass | [11:33] |
DianaComan: | do you get over 100 on cooking too? | [11:34] |
mitch_callahan: | sorry for all of those network connections I was making. not sure wtf is up. i have to replace this IRC client of mine. | [11:36] |
jurov: | DianaComan: cooked nothing yet | [11:38] |
DianaComan: | jurov you made the toothpaste, lol | [11:39] |
jurov: | o i confused i with bouquinism | [11:39] |
jurov: | the fp was over 90, too | [11:40] |
jurov: | *ftp | [11:40] |
mircea_popescu: | "ftp ? | [12:31] |
DianaComan: | he meant flinty toothpaste | [12:34] |
mircea_popescu: | pretty cool tho, i gotta make a http and a ssl. | [12:42] |
mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron i only got sortage, moss is not basic. | [12:42] |
mircea_popescu: | but if you want i can mine it, also about 130 something q. maybe 120s by now | [12:43] |
mircea_popescu: | o btw lobbes if you're selling that ST, let me know. | [12:43] |
DianaComan: | awww lobbes why didn't you pick the bubbles - those would have fetched a very pretty sum, lol | [12:47] |
DianaComan: | out of curiosity: what q are the newly injected ST? | [12:47] |
mircea_popescu: | DianaComan or the cheese! | [12:48] |
DianaComan: | yeah actually, OR the molluscs omg | [12:53] |
DianaComan: | meanwhile I'm finding TLC in all sorts of new places but *nothing new* - most frustrating | [12:54] |
mircea_popescu: | DianaComan they call it beginner's luck :D | [12:54] |
DianaComan: | ha ha, and an apt introduction to eulora at that, I'd say | [12:55] |
mircea_popescu: | meanwhile im cooking up some cp. i've had it with this no lbn situation, will grind the screens down a little more wtf. | [12:55] |
DianaComan: | will you sell any lbn? | [12:55] |
mircea_popescu: | glwhshghrhs | [12:55] |
DianaComan: | lol | [12:55] |
mircea_popescu: | hey, you got any screen left ? | [12:56] |
DianaComan: | yes | [12:56] |
mircea_popescu: | i'll trade lbn for screen how about that. | [12:56] |
DianaComan: | the devil is in the details as usual | [12:56] |
mircea_popescu: | what does it yield, 103 per click ? | [12:56] |
mircea_popescu: | hmm i wonder how one could work out this deal | [12:56] |
DianaComan: | iirc yes | [12:56] |
DianaComan: | that's the trouble | [12:56] |
mircea_popescu: | what \% do you want for table durability if you get to buy back the resulting lbn in qty of 103 * clicks in it at 45 ea ? | [12:57] |
DianaComan: | ugh, will have to run some numbers when I get back to the game to grab some concrete data | [12:58] |
mircea_popescu: | no rush. | [12:58] |
danielpbarron: | how much is lbn worth? | [12:59] |
danielpbarron: | has over 10k at 11 quality | [12:59] |
mircea_popescu: | i'd pay 300k for your bundle. | [13:01] |
mircea_popescu: | in other news i'm making cp at 207. | [13:04] |
mircea_popescu: | who's da masta cook! | [13:04] |
lobbes: | DianaComan: awww lobbes why didn't you pick the bubbles - those would have fetched a very pretty sum, lol << lol, I had a feeling I'd make the less-optimal choice | [13:12] |
lobbes: | and mircea_popescu, I'll sell you some of those ST, sure. I'll ping you about it once I jump on this weekend | [13:14] |
mircea_popescu: | heh so the only practical way to do shredding is with a screen and a table. to collect all the piles pof paper. | [13:57] |
hanbot: | i'm also about out of lbn. gone are the days of easy exploring. | [14:15] |
mircea_popescu: | we burned through who knows how much, 100k ? | [14:15] |
danielpbarron: | lobbes> and mircea_popescu, I'll sell you some of those ST, sure << lemme make an offer too; what is the quality? | [14:31] |
DianaComan: | hanbot> i'm also about out of lbn. gone are the days of easy exploring. <- funny how the bot made exploring so easy as to cause a lack of lbn which makes exploring ...difficult, lol | [14:36] |
hanbot: | mhm! | [14:36] |
danielpbarron: | feel free to bid on my bits | [14:36] |
DianaComan: | oh wow, 10k lbn | [14:37] |
mircea_popescu: | lol DianaComan only sorta half-way reads the log | [14:38] |
DianaComan: | I just got back, lolz | [14:38] |
DianaComan: | going backwards | [14:38] |
DianaComan: | would pay 350k for the stack danielpbarron | [14:39] |
DianaComan: | is going back to town to check screens and figure out some price on wearing them down | [14:40] |
danielpbarron: | maybe i'll make a formal auction out of it on sunday | [14:42] |
danielpbarron: | i think i should start to have sundays free again from now on | [14:43] |
hanbot: | i'd prolly bid too | [14:43] |
hanbot: | btw mircea_popescu do you need bps for shredding or whatever else? i have a bunch: 1437 cc, 44145 cft, 1722 ct, 10060 dg, 44571 ibs, 2184 ppb, 16034 srs, 4797 s | [14:43] |
mircea_popescu: | ill take the ibs and cft. | [14:44] |
mircea_popescu: | what qs are they ? | [14:44] |
danielpbarron: | wants low quality blueprints | [14:44] |
DianaComan: | hmm, anyone selling kilt bps? | [14:45] |
hanbot: | ~80q | [14:45] |
danielpbarron: | if you're looking for higher quality blueprints to shred, maybe i could sell, provided i get the usual premium on them | [14:45] |
mircea_popescu: | hanbot 20c for cft , 27c for ibs ? | [14:45] |
mircea_popescu: | DianaComan if you sell me some eps i can make some kilts thus looting some bps. | [14:45] |
DianaComan: | or hanbot, would you make some kilts for me? I'll provide everything, just click and give me the result + loot | [14:46] |
mircea_popescu: | or that. | [14:46] |
DianaComan: | uhm, are you sure you loot mircea_popescu? I'd rather have hanbot do it really | [14:46] |
mircea_popescu: | the kit is like what, 2k total ? | [14:46] |
DianaComan: | I barely loot anything on them, not sure how would you loot more | [14:46] |
hanbot: | mircea_popecu okay. DianaComan my tinkering is 107 by now if that changes anything | [14:47] |
danielpbarron: | mircea_popescu, would you pay 30c per cft blueprint at 141 quality? | [14:47] |
hanbot: | lemme trade with mp first in any case | [14:47] |
DianaComan: | you mean the bundle? the bp is 129 only, 11rr+1tpt+1eps | [14:47] |
danielpbarron: | you don't wait for anyone else to bid? | [14:47] |
danielpbarron: | just take first offer? | [14:47] |
DianaComan: | sure, I'll get things out first anyway | [14:47] |
mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron notrly, i want either low q for undercrafting or high q for shredding. 141 is kinda neither | [14:47] |
mircea_popescu: | DianaComan it's mcguyver you realise, i get 2.5k decay from tools. | [14:48] |
mircea_popescu: | hanbot get them out of storage, im ~5 minutes from finishing this bouq run | [14:48] |
DianaComan: | ah, there is that too, right | [14:48] |
mircea_popescu: | and looted a tiny sparks sup. | [14:49] |
mircea_popescu: | is this the first time ? | [14:49] |
mircea_popescu: | 5 beetle brews. hey, anyone got md already ? | [14:49] |
mircea_popescu: | 4800 lbn, better than nothing. | [14:53] |
DianaComan: | not bad at all, I think the sparks supp might be first one indeed | [14:53] |
mircea_popescu: | but this is going to be the last lbn i make before i get more screens. | [14:53] |
mircea_popescu: | ok hanbot ready | [14:54] |
hanbot: | 882900 + 1203417 = 2086317 mircea_popescu | [14:54] |
mircea_popescu: | did we have outsdanding balances ? | [14:54] |
hanbot: | nah | [14:54] |
mircea_popescu: | thankee! | [14:55] |
hanbot: | thanks. DianaComan can take kilt items now | [14:55] |
DianaComan: | cool, coming | [14:56] |
hanbot: | i don't have a bandar toolkit tho' | [14:56] |
hanbot: | ah ah | [14:57] |
DianaComan: | do you see it? | [14:57] |
danielpbarron: | hanbot, 380c on the cc, 70c on the slag, 450c on the ppb ? | [14:57] |
DianaComan: | I've put it down | [14:57] |
hanbot: | got it | [14:57] |
hanbot: | danielpbarron sure. am kilting, but reserved for you | [14:58] |
danielpbarron: | and uh, 50c on the dg ? | [14:59] |
mircea_popescu: | nah i had sparks before. | [14:59] |
DianaComan: | supps you mean? | [15:00] |
danielpbarron: | i've looted sparks supp drafts | [15:00] |
mircea_popescu: | ya | [15:00] |
DianaComan: | aha | [15:00] |
hanbot: | danielpbarron works | [15:00] |
DianaComan: | ha, gung-ho gumbo trained by bot finally | [15:03] |
mircea_popescu: | o ? | [15:04] |
hanbot: | DianaComan 46 kilt bps looted + ~40 others | [15:05] |
DianaComan: | I guess it's because I did not have the skill on the last version of the bot so I could not actually test it at all | [15:05] |
DianaComan: | yay hanbot, thanks! | [15:05] |
DianaComan: | oh wow, that's a first hanbot, wd! | [15:05] |
mircea_popescu: | and my grass is 236 | [15:07] |
hanbot: | what's a first? | [15:08] |
DianaComan: | the diagram, not sure I saw it before? | [15:08] |
DianaComan: | I'll check | [15:08] |
DianaComan: | well, at least I did not have it although the name sounds familiar but not sure where from - either it was at the merchant or maybe in some other bp as ingredient, mhm | [15:09] |
jurov: | mircea_popescu: i have realized i have 5 ord flotsam outstanding, they need (together) 40 md, 15 wm, 5 ss, 20 dcs | [16:04] |
jurov: | so i'm on market for these high q | [16:05] |
danielpbarron: | hanbot, what's your bouq quality? maybe i can sell you my higher q blueprints | [16:30] |
mircea_popescu: | jurov that's nice but there's been a shortage of md for months now | [16:37] |
DianaComan: | and ss are actually not found as far as I know | [16:39] |
mircea_popescu: | speaking of which, im out of dcs too. anyone got ? | [16:40] |
jurov: | i am not well informed of such matters | [16:41] |
DianaComan: | just 15 dcs mircea_popescu at 150q | [16:41] |
mircea_popescu: | ouch. you know dcs is needed for toolkits ? | [16:41] |
mircea_popescu: | we need moar. | [16:41] |
DianaComan: | they are needed for all sorts of things; they also weigh a ton each | [16:41] |
DianaComan: | and they are MINING | [16:42] |
mircea_popescu: | yeah | [16:42] |
mircea_popescu: | oh did you get danielpbarron 's lbn ? | [16:43] |
DianaComan: | no, he said he "might" auction it on Sunday | [16:43] |
DianaComan: | .... | [16:43] |
mircea_popescu: | heh. | [16:43] |
mircea_popescu: | well im not going over 350 anywya. | [16:43] |
DianaComan: | reading only half the logs? | [16:43] |
DianaComan: | me neither, lol | [16:43] |
DianaComan: | maybe hanbot does, dunno | [16:44] |
DianaComan: | btw need a rockpile for anything mircea_popescu? I can't recall where I saw it | [16:46] |
mircea_popescu: | so i burned 300 lbn in ... hour and a half. | [16:46] |
mircea_popescu: | it's like 200 / hour is it. | [16:46] |
DianaComan: | aha | [16:46] |
DianaComan: | depends on what you mine | [16:46] |
mircea_popescu: | grass. | [16:46] |
DianaComan: | but on basics yeah, pretty much | [16:46] |
mircea_popescu: | but yeah that time i tried for md/wm/sm i used like 10 i na night | [16:46] |
DianaComan: | aha | [16:47] |
DianaComan: | it's not *that* bad on something more reasonable than those | [16:47] |
DianaComan: | not even sure moonass phase is anywhere near the end though as that would be great | [16:47] |
mircea_popescu: | i dunno, i've been doing great on grass. | [16:48] |
DianaComan: | but from previous experience I still expect it to get worse first | [16:48] |
DianaComan: | it's hard to tell on those basic stuffs | [16:48] |
DianaComan: | it's the rare ones where it's visible plainly | [16:48] |
mircea_popescu: | how hard to tell could it be, i put in like 10mn got out like 18 | [16:49] |
DianaComan: | yes, but was it always around there? on basics it's never miss, on rares now you got how many misses? | [16:50] |
mircea_popescu: | actually i miss on sr about 10\% or so | [16:51] |
DianaComan: | oh, so isn't this different /worse than it used to be? | [16:51] |
DianaComan: | you think it is just gathering skill or what? | [16:51] |
mircea_popescu: | funny thing : i started with 1111 lbn/cft , i now have 824 lbn 831 cft | [16:51] |
mircea_popescu: | almost parity. | [16:51] |
mircea_popescu: | DianaComan iirc i never missed on sr back when i was top miner | [16:52] |
DianaComan: | thing is: did you miss 10\% all the time when you were not top miner? | [16:53] |
mircea_popescu: | pretty much. | [16:53] |
DianaComan: | oh | [16:53] |
mircea_popescu: | anyway, this run so far's been pretty miserable. | [16:54] |
mircea_popescu: | btw you got my 10k cft done yet ? | [16:54] |
DianaComan: | yours? lol | [16:55] |
DianaComan: | this night should be the last run for it | [16:55] |
mircea_popescu: | mine! ALL MINE!11 | [16:55] |
DianaComan: | I left it exploring last night to test some anti-lag stuff | [16:55] |
DianaComan: | and OF COURSE there was NO LAG this night | [16:55] |
mircea_popescu: | did it work ? lol. | [16:55] |
mircea_popescu: | btw you know about /ping right ? | [16:56] |
DianaComan: | la modul sindrom de halat alb a mers presupun | [16:56] |
DianaComan: | yes, so what? as long as I'm around it NEVER lags the shit | [16:56] |
mircea_popescu: | you can include it in your testing, have it ping now and again i guess | [16:56] |
DianaComan: | ugh | [16:57] |
DianaComan: | and what would it do anyway ? I'll end up making a separate local thing to restart the client then or what | [16:57] |
mircea_popescu: | no, you'd know if there's lag or not. | [16:57] |
DianaComan: | (which then would be useful to collect the bits from keys etc) | [16:57] |
mircea_popescu: | anyway, there doesn't seem a way out of this. ima have to bite the bullet and use up my high q molluscs ;/ | [16:59] |
DianaComan: | what were you saving them for? | [17:00] |
mircea_popescu: | i dont want to mix q400+ dm at 2k base with q 85 ST at 5k base. | [17:00] |
DianaComan: | ah, yes- dunno if lobbes' st is higher q | [17:01] |
mircea_popescu: | but whatever, by the time q 11 lbn go for 35 ea i figure ima just sell my q 190 ones for 50 and that'll be that. | [17:01] |
DianaComan: | probably anyway; tbh I kept trying to figure out a pricing for screens, but the more I turn it around the more it seems to make more sense to just do the shredding myself and sod it | [17:01] |
DianaComan: | I get about 160q anyway and whatever loot | [17:02] |
mircea_popescu: | aha | [17:02] |
DianaComan: | so I'm ...shredding | [17:02] |
mircea_popescu: | we'll be badly out of bps in short order. | [17:02] |
DianaComan: | you mean any in particular or like..most? | [17:03] |
mircea_popescu: | everything that shreds. | [17:03] |
DianaComan: | uhm | [17:03] |
mircea_popescu: | the current abundance of shredding bps for instance is predicated on the huge overcrafts we do as a matter of course. by the time we shred for the lbn, doing 1 each, cause out of bps, they'll start drawing down. | [17:04] |
mircea_popescu: | im already working at very little count gain, with 4900 bundle q. | [17:05] |
DianaComan: | not sure I follow that: the bps come from crafting which gets high overcraft due to sortage etc | [17:05] |
mircea_popescu: | my lbn is 190, my bps are 200ish. what overcraft ? | [17:05] |
DianaComan: | oh, you mean the shredding bps themselves | [17:05] |
mircea_popescu: | yes. | [17:05] |
DianaComan: | kept thinking of the bps TO shred, lol | [17:06] |
mircea_popescu: | well, there's no question about it that those are going. | [17:06] |
mircea_popescu: | we're currently sitting on a huge glut due to various fortunate circumstances / original imbalances. | [17:06] |
mircea_popescu: | but you can't replace them at the rate you shred them. | [17:06] |
DianaComan: | well, there are people with low bouq to make more bps I suppose, though ..molluscs needed | [17:06] |
DianaComan: | yes | [17:06] |
mircea_popescu: | so eventually you will be running shredding without overcraft, just for the lbn | [17:07] |
mircea_popescu: | at which point the shredding bps themselves will be drawing down | [17:07] |
DianaComan: | or sod the lbn and use sticks only :))) | [17:07] |
mircea_popescu: | or that. | [17:07] |
DianaComan: | oh wow, says I managed 0.2 crafting but I did not notice, lol | [17:09] |
mircea_popescu: | hey, wd. doing what ? | [17:10] |
DianaComan: | shredding... | [17:10] |
mircea_popescu: | wait, 0.02 or actually 0.2 ? | [17:10] |
DianaComan: | 0.02 sorry | [17:10] |
mircea_popescu: | well, 2mn, still pretty good. | [17:10] |
DianaComan: | oh, I got 374 uppity chickens, guess that's it | [17:10] |
mircea_popescu: | prolly. | [17:10] |
mircea_popescu: | since lobbesbot seems on vacation, http://trilema.com/2015/in-desperation-of-cause-or-eulora-november-15th-auction/ | [18:30] |
lobbesbot: | Title: In Desperation of Cause, or Eulora November 15th Auction on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. (at trilema.com) | [18:30] |
mircea_popescu: | anyone want to process 30 suspect ointments for me ? | [18:42] |
lobbesbot: | News from eulora: In Desperation of Cause, or Eulora November 15th Auction <http://trilema.com/2015/in-desperation-of-cause-or-eulora-november-15th-auction/> | [19:13] |
lobbes: | strangles lobbesbot | [19:13] |
mircea_popescu: | aww! | [19:16] |
lobbes: | why is RSS such a pain with bots? I gotta pick trinque's brain; deedbot- is the only one I've seen that doesn't seem to have these issues | [19:17] |
mircea_popescu: | knows next to nothing on this topic | [19:20] |
hanbot: | <danielpbarron> hanbot, what's your bouq quality? maybe i can sell you my higher q blueprints << 21. you could in theory, but i don't have any screens, nor is ordering one too plausible atm | [19:30] |
hanbot: | btw ping me w/e it'd be convenient for you to pick up those bps you wanted to buy | [19:30] |
danielpbarron: | hanbot, ping | [23:37] |
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