| mircea_popescu: | so i'm trying to find nt. so far found exactly nothing in n triesa at both -400 -400 and some wwb at -400 300 | [00:22] |
| diana_coman: | you might be hitting on the tlc spot maybe | [02:08] |
| diana_coman: | 308 -340 and around more like it | [02:10] |
| diana_coman: | actually what the hell are you doing at -400 -400? lol | [02:10] |
| diana_coman: | OR -400 300 | [02:11] |
| diana_coman: | tubers are not there, yeah | [02:11] |
| diana_coman: | no surprise, lol | [02:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | its on the map | [02:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | orange line bottom left say | [02:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, i went for grass. | [02:19] |
| diana_coman: | no, that is pss lol | [02:25] |
| diana_coman: | orange yes, but squares | [02:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | meh | [02:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | those colors are a nightmare, i got the match trhough computerized color picking | [02:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | if compuer can't tell them apart there's trouble. | [02:26] |
| diana_coman: | that's why I used different symbols | [02:26] |
| diana_coman: | because the colours are not enough basically | [02:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | what symbols ? | [02:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | i dun see nothing but x | [02:26] |
| diana_coman: | ugh, what map are you looking at? lol | [02:27] |
| diana_coman: | http://www.dianacoman.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/eulora_map19Oct2015.png | [02:27] |
| diana_coman: | the second one in my post at http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/10/13/hic-sunt-flotsams-on-eulora-or-the-brand-new-foxymaps/ | [02:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | the one from my artickle. | [02:27] |
| diana_coman: | I DID say even on your article that it was an old version with some problems, lol | [02:28] |
| diana_coman: | use the newer one... | [02:28] |
| diana_coman: | it's been there for ages too, lol | [02:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | why all the hinting anyway | [02:28] |
| diana_coman: | what hinting? | [02:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | hollow figures, etc. | [02:28] |
| diana_coman: | it's just symbols in order from the list that gnuplot has | [02:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | hinting. ie, when instead of a solid color with neat borders, there's this bs degrade | [02:29] |
| diana_coman: | just gave it the numbers, did not start now searching for that or the other | [02:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, i have nfi where nt are. | [02:29] |
| diana_coman: | I gave you the coords a bit earlier, lol | [02:29] |
| diana_coman: | look bottom right | [02:29] |
| diana_coman: | there's a patch of yellow | [02:29] |
| diana_coman: | in it there is orange | [02:30] |
| diana_coman: | and some green (that's the tlc) | [02:30] |
| diana_coman: | around 300 | [02:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | can't really spot any upside red triangles in there, so i'ma lazily assume it doesn't exist in reasonable size | [02:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh in that yellow patch ? | [02:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | so a spot among some ae around 310 -350 ? | [02:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | or -350 310 | [02:31] |
| diana_coman: | yes | [02:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | aite let's give this a try then\ | [02:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | of course... yes which ? | [02:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | nope, wwb again | [02:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | meh, both were utter duds\ | [02:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | one has wwb, the other tpt | [02:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | gives up this stupid shit goes back to grass. | [02:46] |
| diana_coman: | ... | [02:55] |
| diana_coman: | np, will sell you tubers I suppose | [02:55] |
| diana_coman: | <diana_coman> 308 -340 and around more like it | [02:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | nope nothing there. | [02:56] |
| diana_coman: | ugh | [02:57] |
| danielpbarron: | the tubers spot is hard to hit | [07:56] |
| danielpbarron: | it's on a steep hill | [07:56] |
| danielpbarron: | and quite small | [07:56] |
| danielpbarron: | but it hits like any other basic once you're in the right spot | [07:56] |
| danielpbarron: | ie, at 90\%+ success rate | [07:56] |
| danielpbarron: | if you were hitting berries, you were pretty close | [07:57] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, it happens I just finally got to go there and I hit and I got...tubers | [08:31] |
| diana_coman: | really | [08:32] |
| jurov: | mircea_popescu: 711 slag of 98q done | [08:48] |
| diana_coman: | jurov, what's your tinkering level? | [08:51] |
| diana_coman: | want to do some samovar runs maybe you get the double distillates bps? | [08:51] |
| jurov: | 166 tinkering, 44 sortage | [08:51] |
| diana_coman: | sortage shouldn't count | [08:51] |
| jurov: | and 1 cooking | [08:52] |
| diana_coman: | tinkering is in any case "better" than mine for this | [08:52] |
| jurov: | okay, you're in town? | [08:52] |
| diana_coman: | well, we need the gin from mp | [08:52] |
| jurov: | well. he needs me to mine 50k flotsam anyway... | [08:53] |
| diana_coman: | oh wow, that's a load of flotsam | [08:53] |
| jurov: | um i forgot. amd almost out of cft | [08:53] |
| jurov: | *am | [08:53] |
| diana_coman: | ha ha, join the club | [08:53] |
| diana_coman: | it seems that cft is now in fact a much bigger bottleneck than anything else | [08:54] |
| diana_coman: | and basically it will get worse now that we all have sortage | [08:54] |
| diana_coman: | we just need noobs more than ever | [08:55] |
| danielpbarron: | i don't think you'll find 50k flotsam on your own | [09:17] |
| danielpbarron: | might be better for you (jurov) to find (and lock, not build) magic dung beetle claims, as well as shrooms and deserted crab shells; let diana_coman build them, and then sell me the results | [09:21] |
| danielpbarron: | i need these things to build ordinary flotsam claims | [09:22] |
| danielpbarron: | and she should use low quality bits / only 1 thread to build them | [09:23] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron, why don't you dig for those and I'll build them for you? | [09:24] |
| danielpbarron: | that would be a waste of my claims | [09:25] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, so how is that not a waste of jurov's claims then? | [09:25] |
| danielpbarron: | his are low quality | [09:25] |
| danielpbarron: | and you can use them to make high quality | [09:26] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, IF there is indeed such a marked difference in *claim* quality, yes | [09:26] |
| diana_coman: | trouble is that building tinies.... | [09:26] |
| danielpbarron: | i've gotten loot from a tiny | [09:26] |
| diana_coman: | and as you put it the smalls are ALSO tinies.. | [09:26] |
| diana_coman: | yes, but with a low q bit? | [09:26] |
| danielpbarron: | no, but that's not the aim in this case | [09:27] |
| diana_coman: | I got that, but I am saying that it's basically hardly worth it | [09:27] |
| danielpbarron: | he could do it barehanded | [09:28] |
| danielpbarron: | free money | [09:28] |
| danielpbarron: | i've been collecting (basically free) snails this way | [09:29] |
| diana_coman: | free as in "your time is useless otherwise" pretty much, but possibly | [09:29] |
| danielpbarron: | i don't see how wearing down tools on flotsam is a better use of his time | [09:30] |
| diana_coman: | if he actually gets better profit /time, how is that not better? | [09:30] |
| danielpbarron: | here is a better way than that: he follows me as i mine flotsam, building my claims | [09:30] |
| diana_coman: | so he mines bare-handed and get 1 shroom per hour say (remember he has lower gathering than you) | [09:30] |
| diana_coman: | that sounds better actually | [09:31] |
| danielpbarron: | not worth locking them, so it'd have to be an at-the-same-time kind of deal | [09:31] |
| danielpbarron: | i shouldn't say not "worth" it, but it would be so much easier to not have to lock and unlock them | [09:32] |
| danielpbarron: | which would mean handing over hundreds of keys | [09:33] |
| jurov: | well, for tinies thare's no difference who mines them | [09:42] |
| jurov: | and in any case, i currently prefer unattended operation | [09:42] |
| jurov: | not know how to do it with existing claims(other than coding it) | [09:43] |
| jurov: | btw, keys can be managed easily by storing them in tables (which are cheap and light) | [09:43] |
| jurov: | you can extend your inventory slots up to 1280 that way :D | [09:45] |
| jurov: | fuck, why do i keep giving free advice to these tight-lipped paranoiacs? | [09:45] |
| danielpbarron: | do you mean putting stuff in the table and then picking the table up? | [09:49] |
| danielpbarron: | doesn't solve the problem of transfering the keys | [09:50] |
| danielpbarron: | this can be done with claims, still a pain | [09:50] |
| danielpbarron: | and tinies do have extra loot | [09:50] |
| jurov: | you can transfer whole table | [09:50] |
| danielpbarron: | it's not always 1 | [09:50] |
| danielpbarron: | table same as claim | [09:50] |
| danielpbarron: | at least claim is lockable | [09:50] |
| danielpbarron: | i got like 17 of an item from a tiny at least once | [09:51] |
| danielpbarron: | happened while i was watching | [09:51] |
| jurov: | i don't think the loot is worth it | [09:51] |
| danielpbarron: | well i'd pay you (or whoever) for the service of doing it | [09:51] |
| danielpbarron: | i want the flotsam for myself | [09:52] |
| danielpbarron: | and we can also do this with shiny rock | [09:52] |
| danielpbarron: | i'll tinker it all into whatever it is mircea_popescu actually wants | [09:52] |
| jurov: | mined maybe 10k flotsam dso far, i estimate 10\% loot from tinies (and that's including the one case i got 600) | [09:52] |
| danielpbarron: | that's using your low quality sticks and enums | [09:52] |
| jurov: | i was mining grass for diana, it came out similarly | [09:53] |
| jurov: | so i don't believe it. | [09:54] |
| danielpbarron: | what's your building rank | [09:54] |
| jurov: | if instad you paid a coder to make mining existing claims easy, then i could do it for free | [09:54] |
| jurov: | 92 | [09:54] |
| jurov: | but was much less then, maybe 60 | [09:54] |
| danielpbarron: | what is the use of players with average rank? is this what skill books are for? | [09:55] |
| danielpbarron: | i see how noobs are valuable, and high rank too | [09:55] |
| jurov: | i'm fine, thanks | [10:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | if the tuber spot is hard to hit it's absolutely no use to me, how is the bot gonna mine it. | [10:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | you around jurov ? | [10:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | <diana_coman> it seems that cft is now in fact a much bigger bottleneck than anything else << been trying to swap grass fior a while here! | [10:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | <jurov> fuck, why do i keep giving free advice to these tight-lipped paranoiacs? << lmao! | [10:45] |
| jurov: | yes | [10:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | alright coming over. | [10:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, in my observation about 40\% of my final result comes from digging up tinies. | [10:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | could be less than that i guess because i only count "normal" runs, ie not the runs when i hit it big | [10:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | still... | [10:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | jurov what is 120 ? | [10:51] |
| jurov: | the flotsam qual | [10:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh | [10:51] |
| jurov: | that's why i just made slag from it | [10:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | aha. well i'd still buy it, just, you won't get so much extra \% out of it | [10:56] |
| diana_coman: | <jurov> fuck, why do i keep giving free advice to these tight-lipped paranoiacs? <- ha ha jurov, don't worry, I already carry around 2 tables filled with keys and the like | [11:37] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu> if the tuber spot is hard to hit it's absolutely no use to me, how is the bot gonna mine it. <- neah, just give it a line like 10 long along the side of that hill there | [11:39] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu> <diana_coman> it seems that cft is now in fact a much bigger bottleneck than anything else << been trying to swap grass fior a while here! <- but that's still because not enough noobs, isn't it? | [11:40] |
| diana_coman: | as my grass now is already 180+ | [11:40] |
| diana_coman: | still lower than yours, of course, but not sure it would even still be + to mine it | [11:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | possibly not. | [13:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway i figure i make a large sura and then see | [13:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | down to 256 nao | [14:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | but i figure... if i bring it down to 100... then we'll have noobs willy-nilly :D | [14:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | hanbot hey, was leathers that made mollusc ? | [14:24] |
| hanbot: | mhm | [14:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | so the story is : i have 2 grass remarkables. they need 41 grubsilks each, which i have. 7 suspect ointments, which is like... iirc 35 molluscs ? | [14:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | 10 bandar toolkit bundles which i can get. and other stuff i also have. | [14:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | so how about you get me the dm and then go mine my remarkable ? first in game! | [14:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | also, iirc i passed you the last of the sr in that huge flotsam for ibs deal ? is that done ? | [14:25] |
| hanbot: | i have 3 supplications of leather atm, but i made them, and they're q77 | [14:26] |
| hanbot: | are you able to make highq leather supps? | [14:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | but you have high q wine and leather neh ? | [14:27] |
| hanbot: | i have plenty of drafts | [14:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | i am, yeah. then sure, i will. | [14:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | you mean you have the drafts but not the enums ? | [14:27] |
| hanbot: | wine i have. my leather is q 90 | [14:27] |
| hanbot: | and i have the drafts but not the enums | [14:28] |
| diana_coman: | I have high q leather if needed | [14:28] |
| hanbot: | diana_coman whatcha want for 9 atm? | [14:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman but also no enums ? | [14:29] |
| diana_coman: | I have to check, but I think I still have enums yoo | [14:29] |
| diana_coman: | iirc hanbot did not buy all of them | [14:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | dso check, if you do ima buy some drafts from her make more sups, high q | [14:29] |
| diana_coman: | ok, on my way to town | [14:30] |
| diana_coman: | 166 tiny wpl at 272q + 32 small wpl at 288; hanbot: 443 wpl at 167q for 317 per (25\% on base value adjusted for q) | [14:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | was it 3 and 15 each or what ? | [14:32] |
| diana_coman: | no idea, never saw a bp for that | [14:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | hanbot ? | [14:33] |
| hanbot: | 3 and 17 | [14:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | so diana : get 1 more small and 11 more tiny | [14:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | and ima buy 11 sets from you. then i get 11 drafts from her and i deliver the sups. | [14:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | i want 50k for this, because decay. | [14:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | what's the 11 sets ? | [14:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | say another 50k ? | [14:34] |
| hanbot: | then i'll mollusc hunt, i'll want 42 leathers. 14k for you there, diana | [14:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | how much did yo upay for wine, do you recall ? | [14:35] |
| hanbot: | ~5k each | [14:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | what's the sup, 1 wine 3 leathers ? | [14:36] |
| diana_coman: | mhm mircea_popescu: more like 70k considering 317 (price of 1 wpl) * 20 *11 | [14:36] |
| hanbot: | exactly | [14:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | ok so you pay her 70 me 50 that's 120 for 11 sups ; makes each worth ~11k. | [14:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | then 5k for wine and whatever, 2k for leather ? takes you to 18k a click on the altar. | [14:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | last run you got what was it, 40 molluscs in 3 clicks ? | [14:37] |
| hanbot: | mircea_popescu i also need leather, for which she wants 317 per, so that's 84k her, 50k you? | [14:37] |
| hanbot: | and yes re molluscs | [14:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | 40 molluscs DEFINITELY worth 3 clicks at 18k a click. | [14:38] |
| diana_coman: | btw hanbot, I'd buy molluscs too if you sell any | [14:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | iirc they're 2k at q100. course you got altar decay to figure into all this. | [14:38] |
| hanbot: | mircea_popescu i should have the rest of your ibs today. | [14:46] |
| hanbot: | diana_coman if i get more dm than what mp needs here i'll auction it | [14:47] |
| diana_coman: | got the enums, will be back in 3-5 min | [14:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | cool | [14:47] |
| diana_coman: | hanbot, I'd happily provide the enums for more dm | [14:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | ... | [14:48] |
| hanbot: | diana_coman i dun get it. | [14:48] |
| diana_coman: | if you want to make more dm I understand you need more leather supps, hence more wpl enums, right? | [14:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | mkay i guess ima go dig up some leather. | [14:49] |
| hanbot: | yes | [14:49] |
| diana_coman: | why mircea_popescu? | [14:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | easier that way. | [14:50] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, I don't get it | [14:50] |
| diana_coman: | this deal is done, I'm providing all the stuff as agred and hanbot will sell you the dm | [14:50] |
| diana_coman: | AFTER that | [14:50] |
| diana_coman: | if she wants to make more | [14:50] |
| diana_coman: | I'll provide more enums | [14:50] |
| diana_coman: | and leather and whatever else she needs | [14:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | notrly what you said is it ? | [14:51] |
| diana_coman: | how is that not what I said? | [14:51] |
| diana_coman: | <diana_coman> hanbot, I'd happily provide the enums for more d | [14:51] |
| diana_coman: | for MORE dm | [14:52] |
| diana_coman: | additional dm | [14:52] |
| diana_coman: | geez | [14:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | aite well im in town | [14:52] |
| diana_coman: | ok, so wpl to hanbot and the enums to mp? | [14:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | yea | [14:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | uh, 17 each you know ? gotta be 187 | [14:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | tho i think i have 10 somewhere. | [14:53] |
| diana_coman: | oh, sorry | [14:54] |
| diana_coman: | what did I do there, lol | [14:54] |
| diana_coman: | didn't you say 166+11? | [14:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | 17*11 | [14:54] |
| diana_coman: | <mircea_popescu> so diana : get 1 more small and 11 more tiny | [14:54] |
| diana_coman: | <diana_coman> 166 tiny wpl at 272q + 32 small wpl at 288; hanbot: 443 wpl at 167q for 317 per (25\% on base value adjusted for q) | [14:55] |
| diana_coman: | I said I had 166 and you said get 11 more | [14:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | o.O | [14:55] |
| diana_coman: | or not? | [14:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | alrighty, well, i got the 10 so we're ok. | [14:55] |
| hanbot: | goes and stomps on some snails, shoves them into comp box | [14:55] |
| hanbot: | less complicated | [14:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [14:55] |
| diana_coman: | I have only 2more, lol | [14:55] |
| diana_coman: | can get the 8 more whatever, but I did not check your numbers, lol | [14:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | is ok it turns out i have a stash from flotsam misses. | [14:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | omfg i looted a shitton. | [15:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | i got like 200, 5 in | [15:02] |
| diana_coman: | the enums are really quite high q and the supps are cheap | [15:02] |
| hanbot: | :D | [15:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | i think it's mostly that the enums are cheap and the tool decay huge | [15:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | but this solves the problem, ima be selling oodlebunches of this stuff. | [15:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | buying all relevant tinies, 200 ea, buying all relevant smalls, 1k ea. | [15:03] |
| diana_coman: | so now that there is no more possible confusion: hanbot, do you want *additional* enums and leather to make another set of dm? | [15:03] |
| diana_coman: | oh, and tool decay, true | [15:04] |
| hanbot: | diana_coman you can just sell 'em to mp | [15:07] |
| diana_coman: | sure, but that doesn't do anything for me getting any dm, does it? | [15:07] |
| diana_coman: | whatever, I'll search for dm then as it's probably simpler that way, indeed. | [15:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | this is prolly the best solution here, since i got the screens and make the high q stuff which is what's wanted anyway. ima pay 200/1k for the relevant enums, and deliver to hanbot as the IP holder. she can sell for w/e | [15:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | prolly auction a batch tomorrow or i dunno | [15:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol i got fucking shredding bps ffs. | [15:10] |
| diana_coman: | btw mircea_popescu re w2d I wonder whether they won't actually come more likely from something like suspect ointment and the like | [15:10] |
| diana_coman: | obv, I don't know, but looking at what I got otherwise and at bp value | [15:11] |
| diana_coman: | anyway, just a thought | [15:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | might be. you wanna try some suspect meh | [15:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | it WOULD work for SO we use to make us, but not for mining SO | [15:11] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, but it's needed for making us too, and anyway, some US are needed even for mining after all | [15:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah. might work. | [15:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | i guess i should also cook a shitton of wine. fortunately, i got a ton of cws just made. | [15:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | so diana_coman you selling me a pile of tiny/small enums ? | [15:14] |
| diana_coman: | csw | [15:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron ? | [15:14] |
| diana_coman: | atm I don't have any more really | [15:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | i suppose barehanded gathering is a decent earner with this. should make a few k's an hour at any rate. | [15:16] |
| hanbot: | altar decay is 11,097/click for the curious. | [15:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | o wow. | [15:16] |
| hanbot: | and 1 dm on first ;/ | [15:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | ouch | [15:16] |
| diana_coman: | what q, hanbot? | [15:16] |
| hanbot: | 166 | [15:17] |
| diana_coman: | ouch indeed | [15:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | hey listen | [15:17] |
| diana_coman: | but wasn't it correlated with higher level supps? | [15:17] |
| diana_coman: | so maybe you need to do more of those first? | [15:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | you wanna lend me the altar and a click set ? im curious what q i get. | [15:17] |
| diana_coman: | do you have the skill? | [15:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | skills aren't required to play eulora are they ? | [15:18] |
| hanbot: | diana raises a good point ; | [15:18] |
| hanbot: | lol | [15:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | have we tested this yet ? | [15:18] |
| diana_coman: | really? since when? you can't explore without the gathering skill, can you? | [15:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | has anyone ever clicked on an altar w/o the skill ? | [15:18] |
| hanbot: | mircea_popescu coupla mins, 2nd click is finishing, i'll lend you stuffs. | [15:19] |
| diana_coman: | well, since you know what you know, I'm not arguing, for sure | [15:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | kk | [15:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | i don't know what i know! i know what we don't know! | [15:19] |
| hanbot: | how do you know? | [15:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | if you know a know you didn't know that know. | [15:20] |
| hanbot: | annnnd 1 dm on the second click | [15:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | ouch. | [15:20] |
| hanbot: | have i defied ye gods?! | [15:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, 11k in costs + 11k in decay for 1 mollusc is ghastly. | [15:20] |
| diana_coman: | really the thing with higher supps? | [15:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | this looks pretty cool | [15:21] |
| hanbot: | arguably it could be the leather. q 167 vs 199 the wine? | [15:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | cooking | [15:22] |
| diana_coman: | what leather did you use last time, hanbot? | [15:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | this bundle is q195 | [15:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | so mind that im altaring w/o the skill. | [15:23] |
| hanbot: | 0_0 | [15:24] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, gotta know what is worth trying as it were | [15:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | and i got... nothing ? | [15:24] |
| diana_coman: | ahahaha | [15:24] |
| hanbot: | noway | [15:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | i mean an inconsequential token | [15:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | wait. | [15:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | seems i crashed the game no less ?! | [15:25] |
| diana_coman: | lol | [15:25] |
| hanbot: | tries to remember what dance she might've done before those first three that yielded 40dm | [15:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | ayup. | [15:25] |
| hanbot: | left, left, up, cognac... | [15:25] |
| diana_coman: | hanbot, how many leather does 1 go take? | [15:26] |
| hanbot: | and diana_coman i don't recall the old leather q, i'm searchin' | [15:26] |
| hanbot: | 3 per | [15:26] |
| diana_coman: | oh, I still have 4 OLD leathers which are close to 197q iirc | [15:26] |
| diana_coman: | you can try with those maybe to see if it makes any diff | [15:27] |
| diana_coman: | I'll throw them in for free out of curiosity | [15:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | sooo... i made a token of quality 2! | [15:27] |
| diana_coman: | I don't really think it makes such a diff | [15:27] |
| hanbot: | kk | [15:27] |
| diana_coman: | but out of curiosity... | [15:27] |
| diana_coman: | 194q turns out now that I got back in game to check | [15:29] |
| hanbot: | in progress | [15:30] |
| hanbot: | 1 dm again | [15:32] |
| hanbot: | there goes that idea | [15:32] |
| diana_coman: | aha | [15:32] |
| diana_coman: | so I bet on the thing with higher supps | [15:32] |
| diana_coman: | I'd suggest sacrificing some higher level stuff | [15:32] |
| diana_coman: | and then doing this again | [15:32] |
| diana_coman: | just a thought | [15:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | well i cant make the higher sups because no coffee | [15:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | because nobody's selling me any md. | [15:33] |
| diana_coman: | poor you | [15:33] |
| diana_coman: | how many brews do you need per supp? | [15:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | 2-5 or some shit | [15:34] |
| diana_coman: | and actually anyway, doesn't hanbot have the supps already? | [15:34] |
| diana_coman: | she bought them at the auction, didn't she? | [15:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | i dunno | [15:34] |
| diana_coman: | hanbot? | [15:34] |
| hanbot: | eh i don't have drafts for those, i have the supps, so don't know the ingredients | [15:35] |
| hanbot: | and ftr the one mysterious rocks thingie i sacrificed yielded token only | [15:35] |
| diana_coman: | so you have the supps already, so no need for md and all that jazz | [15:35] |
| diana_coman: | yes, but I understood it fed into the lower line | [15:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | a, you have all the sups ? | [15:36] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, am I the only one to read the logs? lol | [15:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | i dunno, i recall selling a bunch of sparks in auction but not sups for them | [15:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | haven'\t been keeping that close a tab on it anyway | [15:36] |
| hanbot: | i dunno what constitutes "all" so can't vouch for that. i have myst rocks and murky delights tho | [15:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | so then is it your determination i should make 7 sparks sups ? or that i shouldn't ? | [15:37] |
| diana_coman: | they are from the higher line so that's what counts | [15:37] |
| diana_coman: | there would be the lists too at least, as the most expensive | [15:38] |
| diana_coman: | is off for a walk with a pickaxe | [15:38] |
| hanbot: | mircea_popescu if you can, you should. | [15:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | well i can't because no brews | [15:38] |
| hanbot: | so how do we get mds? | [15:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | but once i get some md ima get em | [15:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | well either dpb or diana_coman gotta mine 'em | [15:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | i guess you could also try, the spot is by the wm spot, but they're a bitch | [15:39] |
| hanbot: | also possible i loot them from different low sacrifices | [15:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | yes, it is. | [15:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | but atm i dun have enums to make any other low level sups | [15:39] |
| hanbot: | i have q 100 supps | [15:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | you mean you have drafts ? | [15:40] |
| hanbot: | i mean i have confusion | [15:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol the learning curve for this game... | [15:40] |
| hanbot: | (drafts, yes. durh.) | [15:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway. the main problem here is that at 22k per, molluscs are unusable economically. | [15:41] |
| hanbot: | okay, i have enums for moss, berries, and thorns, which i guess you should make, 3 each. | [15:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | the sticking point is lack of enums atm, i burned through ~200 in two minutes. | [15:42] |
| hanbot: | and yeah re dm. could just be the luck of the draw. it's not my day according to the clouds or smthg | [15:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman said she's out and i never really mined anythign but basics so i don't have any either | [15:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, at 11k for the altar, you got what, like 200 clicks in it ? | [15:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | listen this doesn't sound right at all. | [15:43] |
| hanbot: | 244 to be precise. | [15:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | was it established what would be a fair value on the basis of the auction ? like 20mn for the altar alone or something ? | [15:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | prolly more like 40 i guess | [15:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | hey listen hanbot ! what sacrifice level are you now ? | [15:46] |
| hanbot: | i'm not sure what you're asking. starting bid was its durability (2281), i paid 110M - 45M = 65M for the thing | [15:47] |
| hanbot: | 12 | [15:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | and when you looted the 40 ? | [15:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | well ok, but it was a bundle with the skill. they're different things. | [15:47] |
| hanbot: | yeah, but how're you going to split | [15:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway. one altar click has an amortization value well in excess of 200k. if you get 1 dm for it... it's suicide. | [15:48] |
| hanbot: | this assuming the resultant token is worth nothing | [15:48] |
| hanbot: | tbh iono what it's worth. | [15:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | well atm it has no known use, so impossible to value. | [15:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | o no, wait, they were used in the raven event | [15:49] |
| hanbot: | iirc they were selling for 1m | [15:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | inconsequential ones ? | [15:49] |
| hanbot: | ofc, they're no longer as scarce | [15:49] |
| hanbot: | yes | [15:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | then it's a pretty good deal. | [15:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | goes off to brew a sunday event. | [15:50] |
| hanbot: | yeah but there's no longer a market aha | [15:50] |
| hanbot: | i'm off to attend to various stuffs myself, back around later | [15:52] |
| diana_coman: | hanbot, mircea_popescu my current enums stock, tiny/small: tpt 50/9 265q/293q; wwb 110/5 276q/267q ; sm 377/19 250q/315q | [16:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman ill buy the lot. | [18:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | also, do you have the 34 ft for my ppbs ? | [18:12] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu you in town? I'll get the enums out + 200k I owe you from yest; re ft not yet, will get a samovar to jurov to make it as my q is 152 or higher | [18:16] |
| diana_coman: | jurov you around? | [18:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | i am yes | [18:17] |
| diana_coman: | or hanbot, do you want to make the toothpaste for mp? I'll sell you 1 samovar + ingredients and you sell the toothpaste to mp | [18:17] |
| jurov: | diana_coman: will log in a sec | [18:18] |
| diana_coman: | great jurov | [18:18] |
| diana_coman: | thanks | [18:18] |
| hanbot: | diana_coman am stacked with orders atm, ty tho' | [18:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | sooo... trade ? | [18:21] |
| diana_coman: | 1 sec to get them out | [18:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | (19+5+9) * 1000 + (377+110+50) * 200 = 140400 | [18:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | 60k you still owe | [18:22] |
| diana_coman: | yes | [18:22] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, 1 min to sort it out with the bank | [18:23] |
| diana_coman: | soooo... accept? | [18:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | tjere we go | [18:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | thanks. | [18:24] |
| diana_coman: | is that all settled now, right>? | [18:24] |
| diana_coman: | jurov, do you have toothpaste blueprints? | [18:25] |
| jurov: | lol, exactly 1 | [18:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | it is. | [18:26] |
| diana_coman: | mhm, you should loot more I suppose, but if you get stuck, I'll help you out | [18:26] |
| diana_coman: | ok, give me 5-10 minutes to get everything out and calc all | [18:27] |
| jurov: | okay | [18:27] |
| jurov: | god there are no fines for littering | [18:31] |
| jurov: | *good | [18:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [18:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | if anyone cares, i'm mostly short small moss and tiny wwb | [18:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | nice hat lol | [18:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | wow check out the advanced wiki on eulorum! | [19:10] |
| hanbot: | it needed some flesh, eh ;) | [19:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | nicely done. | [19:26] |
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