| jurov: | mircea_popescu: yes, want today all mined so far? | [06:05] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu I have 14 wood distillates for you (q153); no luck with loot - the most I got was a suspect ointment bp, otherwise mainly rock distillate bps; will go hunting for tlc therefore and then maybe jurov or hanbot have a go at it | [10:29] |
| jurov: | mircea_popescu: considering i'm now mining flotsam of q 119 maybe i can make slag (with q 80) myself? | [10:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | sure. | [12:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman yeah word. | [12:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | incidentally, anyone wanna swap grass ? | [12:18] |
| danielpbarron: | i have a lot of ordinary claims i'd like to have a noob build | [14:40] |
| danielpbarron: | and a list of ingredients i need to make this happen -> http://danielpbarron.com/eulora/buying.txt | [14:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron i can certainy sell you some reeds | [14:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | wait, you out of electron grass ? | [14:42] |
| danielpbarron: | whoops forgot to remove some of the basics i already have | [14:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | or don't actually want high q | [14:42] |
| danielpbarron: | no i'm not | [14:42] |
| danielpbarron: | my bad on that one | [14:42] |
| danielpbarron: | fixed | [14:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | re-reads | [14:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | you can have some sr | [14:43] |
| danielpbarron: | bah i ahve that too | [14:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | i also got a ton of tpt but it's low q | [14:44] |
| danielpbarron: | i've been collecting elusive snail enumerations the last day or two | [14:45] |
| danielpbarron: | even though i've never seen a draft or supplication for these myself | [14:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | pretty sure grenadine made some | [14:46] |
| danielpbarron: | i want high quality supplications of it, or low quality drafts that i can trade for supplications | [14:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | i wonder what all those give. i mean, so far we know leather -> mollusc | [14:47] |
| danielpbarron: | i don't think i want to undercraft, seeing as how the altar is very limited, and i have no idea what the tokens are for | [14:47] |
| danielpbarron: | i know what all the others give | [14:48] |
| danielpbarron: | and by 'all' i mean the uncommons | [14:48] |
| danielpbarron: | "we" also know that one of them gives clovers | [14:49] |
| danielpbarron: | since i was selling clovers long before it was found in gathering | [14:49] |
| danielpbarron: | and it should be too hard to deduce which one looted those | [14:49] |
| danielpbarron: | shouldn't be* | [14:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | wait, wait. leather, dm, tlc these are all grocery. | [14:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | ok so does tpt yield what ? mushroom ? slithy tove ? | [14:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | btw anyone want to make me a large pile of low q bms and slag ? | [15:47] |
| jurov: | onoes, remarkable flotsam claim | [15:48] |
| jurov: | mircea_popescu: i can come to do it in a while. should have sr left, must look | [15:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | wow. | [15:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | wjhat's flotsam remakrable take ? | [15:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | i don't think we had that b4 | [15:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | jurov ftr, i would like ~4k bms and 10k slag to go with it. | [15:50] |
| jurov: | http://www.explo.yt/eulora/remarkableflotsam.png | [15:52] |
| jurov: | i have far from 50+8k flotsams | [15:56] |
| jurov: | *far less than | [15:56] |
| jurov: | mining my 4 ord and this one would help | [15:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | also needs w2d wouldn't you know it. | [16:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, scaffoldings i can make. and if the leather supps -> dm thing gets kicjked into high gear, i'll actually need someone to mine my remarkab le grasses | [16:26] |
| jurov: | will do 700 flotsams now, then get more resources | [16:43] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu how many tlc do you need for a second round of distillates? | [17:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | define round ? | [17:00] |
| diana_coman: | mhm, say 10 distillates | [17:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | 70 | [17:01] |
| diana_coman: | ok, have that | [17:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | meet in town ? | [17:01] |
| diana_coman: | yes, 1 minute to make some order in my wares and figure out if I can give more | [17:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | brt | [17:05] |
| diana_coman: | ok, I can give 98 for another 14 distillates if I got that right | [17:06] |
| diana_coman: | do you prefer to just take their value out of the gin? | [17:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | ok. and the old wds ? | [17:08] |
| diana_coman: | oh yes, I'll take them out of storage in a min | [17:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | im just gonna count them at 125, which is what you pay for gin, also. | [17:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | 225k this | [17:08] |
| diana_coman: | fine for now | [17:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol inadvertently it shows the whole stack being 253 | [17:09] |
| diana_coman: | lol | [17:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | accept and get the wd | [17:09] |
| diana_coman: | they are 98 though | [17:09] |
| diana_coman: | aren't they? | [17:09] |
| diana_coman: | there is this bug that it shows the whole stack regardless | [17:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | iya | [17:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | 1.514mn | [17:11] |
| diana_coman: | I got 1.376mn for the distillates | [17:11] |
| diana_coman: | and 225 from the tlc, right? | [17:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | ye | [17:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | 225556.8+14×51417 × 1.79 = 1514066.82 | [17:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | o wait, 25\% nm | [17:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | 1602246.975 | [17:12] |
| diana_coman: | yes | [17:12] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, not enough change | [17:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | aww! | [17:12] |
| diana_coman: | lol, that's all I have | [17:12] |
| diana_coman: | will owe you 200k? | [17:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | aite. | [17:13] |
| diana_coman: | need the rest of the tlc to build my claims | [17:13] |
| diana_coman: | and in any case for the record: I sold all that tlc at a huge loss basically | [17:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | the day is not far when the full brunt of nt required for gin will be felt | [17:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | atm im still burning my stocks\ | [17:15] |
| diana_coman: | tubers? | [17:15] |
| diana_coman: | that's not a problem really | [17:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | think : this run = 2400 tubers. | [17:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | not a problem ? | [17:15] |
| diana_coman: | no | [17:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | then where is my 10k flotsam etc. | [17:15] |
| diana_coman: | what flotsam got to do with tubers? | [17:15] |
| diana_coman: | I still have plenty of tubers stocks for that matter | [17:16] |
| diana_coman: | + tubers are WAY less heavy than flotsam | [17:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | aite. | [17:16] |
| diana_coman: | jurov, each book needs 4cp, 1 dg and 2 brews | [17:19] |
| diana_coman: | the cp and dg take mainly basic resources, are you fine to get those on your own? | [17:19] |
| diana_coman: | since I understood you are getting now high enough q on your own to overcraft, right? | [17:19] |
| diana_coman: | the brew takes 1 bbb, 1 md and 1 ltf | [17:19] |
| diana_coman: | I have tons of bbb that would give you overcraft | [17:19] |
| diana_coman: | I can get the md no problem | [17:19] |
| diana_coman: | do you want me to make you ltf? | [17:20] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu do you have any high q rotten fruit? | [17:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | nope | [17:21] |
| diana_coman: | argh, there is nothing in this world, lol | [17:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | and go get some of that md no problem, i need like 1k of it. | [17:21] |
| diana_coman: | sure, right after I get what I need, lol | [17:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | aaand im prolly gonna run out of samovars, too. glory. | [17:23] |
| diana_coman: | well, you are clearly addicted to cooking :D | [17:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [17:23] |
| diana_coman: | trouble is that I have already gone through all that lbn and cft since last Sunday | [17:24] |
| diana_coman: | even if there were 2 nights lost due to stupid connection troubles | [17:25] |
| diana_coman: | so ...not much mining really to do | [17:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | and i've not actually managed to replace the cft. | [17:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | lbn hangs on whether i get more dm. | [17:28] |
| diana_coman: | you know, I have 6 ordinaries of grass waiting for a noob to build | [17:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | so we're back to the "need more noobs" thing, only moreso. | [17:29] |
| diana_coman: | indeed | [17:29] |
| diana_coman: | any plans on a test eulora server for bot dev? | [17:34] |
| diana_coman: | fwiw I've implemented most of the more pressing changes to the bot (and most notably: use of id for container and a timeout parameter for the crafting bot, blocking and filtering marker messages for the explore bot), but it will probably take me now until the end of next week to do any kind of decent testing | [17:42] |
| jurov: | diana_coman: it only really needs one function: "drop everything and flee" | [17:57] |
| diana_coman: | lol jurov, how's that? | [17:57] |
| diana_coman: | drop everything and flee is quite easy really as long as you don't mind where it drops stuff or where it runs to, lol | [17:58] |
| jurov: | considering the abuse that is inflicted on the character, it may as well do it :D | [17:59] |
| jurov: | imagine pickaxing for hours without any pause | [17:59] |
| jurov: | chetty when the overfast movememnt was still enabled, i could exhaust grundin's stamina and not allowed to move further | [18:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman you know, i don't think i've ever observed bot train cooking properly./ | [18:01] |
| jurov: | maybe this can be applied to mining, too to break bots (evil laughter) | [18:01] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, you mean you did all that cooking with the macros or what? | [18:02] |
| diana_coman: | oh, the training only | [18:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | ye | [18:02] |
| diana_coman: | there is something weird going on with training lately, not sure why, maybe I missed something in the update as I noticed some training trouble where previously there were none despite not changes to that part of code | [18:03] |
| diana_coman: | but training IS among those things that are a true pain to test | [18:03] |
| jurov: | you can always restart your character :) | [18:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [18:04] |
| diana_coman: | lol jurov | [18:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | yup jkust failed training again | [18:06] |
| diana_coman: | is there any message at all either in main window or bot window? | [18:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | it moves the things to tool, but it oes not train. | [18:07] |
| diana_coman: | like "you can't train when.." | [18:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | none\ | [18:07] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, so that message is either ignored or lost on the way | [18:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | the bot dsays "moving to train" | [18:07] |
| diana_coman: | so it says, it moves and then it sends the message, that part can't be skipped if it did all the rest | [18:07] |
| diana_coman: | but then ...nothing | [18:07] |
| diana_coman: | what the hell can the bot do | [18:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | odd. | [18:07] |
| diana_coman: | basically there are only those 2 options that I see: the message is either lost or ignored/considered wrong | [18:08] |
| jurov: | and mine started having problems to target the table | [18:08] |
| diana_coman: | moreover, if there is no err message re trainer, it would normally mean that targeting the trainer was fine too | [18:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | the reason i suspect it's a bot issue is that it never ever happened to me to clikc a training and it to not go through | [18:08] |
| diana_coman: | dunno, maybe just to delay the message a bit on the odd chance that it fires it up too fast | [18:09] |
| diana_coman: | lolz, in that sense sure | [18:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2lcyj7KOSFo/T4MHhnzLPlI/AAAAAAAAABM/jqkKlrecVQo/s1600/agua+viva+giigante.jpg << a picture of the dead mollusc i need. | [18:09] |
| diana_coman: | looks more like a wooly mushroom to me :p | [18:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [18:11] |
| danielpbarron: | diana_coman> what flotsam got to do with tubers? << both basic | [18:17] |
| diana_coman: | lol danielpbarron I know that, yes | [18:17] |
| diana_coman: | the context there was in getting large quantities and I was basically making the point that it's not exactly the same thing getting flotsam and getting tubers (even if they are both basic, sure) | [18:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | thousands still take a while, is the point | [18:20] |
| diana_coman: | well, on one hand I have thousands of tubers right now, lol | [18:21] |
| danielpbarron: | i can get thousands of lots of stuff, i just need the ingredients to the ordinary claims | [18:21] |
| danielpbarron: | also has lots of tubers | [18:21] |
| danielpbarron: | but it's electron stock that i'd probably better hold on to | [18:22] |
| diana_coman: | on the other hand, sure, a while, but kind of very different "whiles" given that for the same quantity of flotsams as tubers you make at least 4 times the trips to storage AND you can't leave the bot over night because of that | [18:22] |
| danielpbarron: | it takes one trip either way | [18:22] |
| danielpbarron: | until it is no longer possible to overload yourself | [18:22] |
| danielpbarron: | this is not unlike the death subsidy | [18:23] |
| diana_coman: | well, the bot doesn't do trips | [18:23] |
| danielpbarron: | shrugs | [18:23] |
| danielpbarron: | diana_coman, http://danielpbarron.com/eulora/buying.txt | [18:24] |
| diana_coman: | bitterbeans available tons: http://www.dianacoman.com/eulora/foxystore/ | [18:25] |
| danielpbarron: | 128 quality?? | [18:25] |
| danielpbarron: | can't you do better than that? | [18:25] |
| diana_coman: | I can, now | [18:25] |
| danielpbarron: | i can wait | [18:25] |
| diana_coman: | let me check, for the 110 you want I might even have already anyway | [18:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | on the positive side, alcohol comes oput 207 | [18:26] |
| danielpbarron: | i'll take all your swarming grub | [18:26] |
| diana_coman: | 159 beans at 173q danielpbarron | [18:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | it occurs to me i should prolly kill some grubs in alcohol make threads | [18:27] |
| danielpbarron: | diana_coman, i'll take those too | [18:28] |
| diana_coman: | so 159 beans at 173q and 25 sg at 174 q, right? | [18:28] |
| danielpbarron: | ya | [18:28] |
| diana_coman: | kk, trade me | [18:29] |
| danielpbarron: | i'm down to 202 quality enums | [18:30] |
| diana_coman: | 87600 danielpbarron | [18:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | that was nice, 100 acg recipes loot | [18:32] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, lost in action danielpbarron? | [18:32] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu doesn't the thread take something else too? | [18:36] |
| danielpbarron: | heh | [18:36] |
| danielpbarron: | i was banking mid-trade | [18:36] |
| diana_coman: | just gin and grubs? | [18:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | i don['t readily recall | [18:36] |
| diana_coman: | oh, didn't even know you could bank while trading | [18:36] |
| danielpbarron: | yep, just gotta click the npc after the trade started | [18:37] |
| danielpbarron: | and you have to open/close inventory to get the new coins to appear | [18:37] |
| diana_coman: | good to know | [18:38] |
| diana_coman: | grubs are a bit the flotsam of farming, lol | [18:42] |
| diana_coman: | weigh about 100kg each or something, hence not exactly the easiest to mine (and re above discussion flotsam vs tubers: while I have in fact a few thousands beans and berries (each), I don't even have 500 grubs) | [18:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | aaaand 800 acg bps! | [19:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | im surprised it didn't get mentioned. | [19:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman your gin's ready. want it ? | [21:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman there's something specific with the cooking. mcguyver works just fine, in the exact same config. | [23:58] |
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