| diana_coman: | morning | [03:14] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu that was bird's nest and gin I needed, yes | [03:14] |
| diana_coman: | mod6 when you get in game again, maybe you build some claims for me? | [03:15] |
| diana_coman: | and/or leave the bot to do some crafting? | [03:15] |
| jurov: | mircea_popescu: short some 500 flotsam as compared to cr | [07:43] |
| jurov: | but going afk in a while | [07:43] |
| jurov: | *as compared to sr | [07:44] |
| jurov: | also, 30 oils short for shaped slag | [07:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | jurov im here. | [09:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman aite ima make you some. | [09:06] |
| diana_coman: | cool | [09:06] |
| diana_coman: | what was it you wanted? | [09:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | in approximate order : | [09:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | dm, lh, tlc, hi st, sm, eps, dcs, ae | [09:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | also all the basics in low, especially sr. | [09:08] |
| diana_coman: | maybe mod6 comes to mine some basics then from my claims | [09:10] |
| diana_coman: | hi? | [09:10] |
| diana_coman: | what's hi? | [09:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | 300q saty | [09:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | say | [09:12] |
| diana_coman: | ah, you meany high st, lolz | [09:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | ya | [09:15] |
| diana_coman: | doesn't seem like it's going to happen very soon | [09:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | and i also want all the staples of industry in low q. these are (in no particular order as i'll buy an infinity of any of them), s, io, ltf, bct, bms, cc, dg, ibs, ppb, all shaped slag | [09:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | o btw you wanted more ft or got enough ? | [09:16] |
| diana_coman: | ft I have more than enough, lol | [09:17] |
| diana_coman: | it's more ppb I need on that branch of things | [09:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | kk i recall i made you a respectable batch last. | [09:17] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, basically more than what ppb you sold me | [09:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah. | [09:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | well if i ever get more sb ima make more ppb. | [09:17] |
| diana_coman: | out of the first list (dm, lh, tlc etc) it's only the st you want high q or all? | [09:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | only the st i want ONLY hi, the rest i want both. | [09:19] |
| diana_coman: | kk | [09:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | and im making 70 bng in this batch. they're coming out q195 and i want 29k each. you taking the whole lot ? | [09:22] |
| diana_coman: | what's that base value? | [09:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | 11395 in my book. but you had some before didn't you ? | [09:24] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, turns out I did not write it down though and I already ate it all | [09:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | well hopefully i'm not wrong like last time. | [09:25] |
| diana_coman: | sounds ok, I'll take it all, yes | [09:26] |
| diana_coman: | did you get low q tlc for it or what? | [09:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | kk later today will be done. | [09:26] |
| diana_coman: | are you selling any bits of nothing? | [09:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | nah, thing is, i made a batch of acg to try and get a wood 2 dist recipe. but after 3 clicks on the wood 1 dist (which takes 7 gin!) all i got was a bunch more of the same and a rock one. so i was like fuck this. | [09:27] |
| diana_coman: | ah, it's from the previous tlc that I thought you were using for the distillates stuff, kk | [09:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | sure but i want 30 each. | [09:28] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, what qual? | [09:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman the other problem being that i suddenly had an intuition from the structure of the bp that probably w2d asks for 7 w1d, which means you need 49 gins for each which means that to mine the god damned claim you need ~150 gins which wtf. | [09:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | 189 | [09:28] |
| diana_coman: | oh wow 150 gins | [09:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | and if there's a wood 3, get ready for 343. | [09:29] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, I got the idea, lol | [09:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | tlc might become THE pin resource, depending how needed those solutions are. | [09:30] |
| chetty: | starting to sound like a real game here, people complaining about the grind ... | [09:30] |
| diana_coman: | well, dunno what gathering skill exactly do I need to get them more reliably, lol | [09:30] |
| diana_coman: | ahaha chetty | [09:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol it's not even a grind, we have nfi how to get them anyway. | [09:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | i mean, she's not doing it right now, neither am i etc. more like complaining about the miniboss. | [09:31] |
| diana_coman: | thing is: how to get them at a *reasonable* price | [09:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | tlc is the what, 5th miniboss we ran into ? looks more like a chapter boss. | [09:31] |
| diana_coman: | as otherwise, sure, no problem, leave it over night with a ton of imp tools and I'll get them | [09:31] |
| diana_coman: | at about 4k per tlc, lol | [09:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | ^ | [09:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | then you do the math the w2d costs you know 1mn each. you need 3 of them to dig a remarkable, it won't pay you 3mn | [09:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | heck, maybe it will, we never dug one out. | [09:32] |
| diana_coman: | there's that, yeah | [09:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [09:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | but for my own benefit, what's the narrative story of economic minibosses we ran into ? | [09:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | first off was wm i think, to make tools. was it ? | [09:33] |
| diana_coman: | yes, I'd say so | [09:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | and then st to make samovars. | [09:33] |
| diana_coman: | maybe md ? | [09:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | and now dm. what md ? | [09:33] |
| diana_coman: | it kind of fizzled out that one mainly because daniel stopped the altar altogether | [09:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | doesn't even recall what md is ? | [09:34] |
| diana_coman: | magical dungbeetle | [09:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh oh oh yeah | [09:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | so it is the 5th, tlc. | [09:34] |
| diana_coman: | kind of weird that some of the others seem not needed though I suspect it's more as in "not yet" | [09:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | possibru | [09:35] |
| diana_coman: | I mean: swarming grub for instance | [09:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh yeah, i want some of that too. | [09:35] |
| diana_coman: | and bitterbeans? | [09:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman do you ever not find tlc with the chetty stick ? | [09:35] |
| diana_coman: | ouch, no, that did not *yet* happen | [09:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman i guess, i only have low q ones. | [09:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | so yeah, i'd buy bbb too. | [09:36] |
| diana_coman: | but I find consistently only 2 tlc/chetty stick | [09:36] |
| diana_coman: | which sucks big time | [09:36] |
| diana_coman: | 10k per tlc at least is already nuts | [09:36] |
| diana_coman: | I'm way better mining it with an imp or even a basic hoe ffs | [09:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | well... not as bad as not finding anything :D | [09:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | but WORSE | [09:36] |
| diana_coman: | what, did that happen to you? | [09:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | the perversity of this game you know. go explorin with the hoe, you sometimes find nothing, which sucks.\ | [09:37] |
| diana_coman: | ok, let me add up all the stocks of bbb and sg | [09:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | but if you go with the stick, you ALWAYS find, except... you wish you hadn't. | [09:37] |
| chetty: | get lower level to build? | [09:38] |
| diana_coman: | lol, not sure quite | [09:38] |
| diana_coman: | yes chetty, that's the only chance | [09:38] |
| diana_coman: | and I keep trying to get people to do that | [09:38] |
| diana_coman: | but... | [09:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | chetty one problem is that low level gets low q, and with tlc i actually prefer high q. | [09:38] |
| diana_coman: | not much luck with it I'd say | [09:38] |
| diana_coman: | plus that, lol | [09:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | (the reason that i prefer high q is the following : if tlc goes into gin, then it takes 1 ltf to make 1 gin, value 7254. of which 7k the tlk is like 15\%. this is cooking, so i am adding a ~3k worth of decay to the attempt no matter what, which is almost 50\%. | [09:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | even if the tlc is negative quality, it can't push the craft so low as to make it overcraft. | [09:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | consequently, any q under average of what im using in tlc comes right out of the samovar | [09:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | and the ltf i use are q~200. | [09:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | for that matter i'm not so keen on undercrafted cooking anyway. | [09:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | but noobing the claim helps a lot in other fields - for instance i would like a lot of low q wm, which they've been getting me. | [09:43] |
| diana_coman: | 918 sg at 179q | [09:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | aite. | [09:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | hit me now as im in a craft window | [09:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | nice. i don't even recall what im using these for, | [09:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | but a stash is always good. | [09:48] |
| diana_coman: | ha, I'm glad to get rid of them as they are very heavy, hence a pain to move around | [09:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | so by the way, public consultation : im thinking of holding an auction (next sunday) | [09:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | what's the public prefer ? PB ? another altar package ? | [09:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | maybe a skill ? | [09:49] |
| diana_coman: | what's PB? | [09:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | what you hope it might be. | [09:49] |
| diana_coman: | hmmm, would the altar package include also a few of the lower end supp drafts? | [09:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | doubt it. | [09:50] |
| diana_coman: | 214 bitterbeans at 176q | [09:53] |
| diana_coman: | 20 dcs at 169q | [09:54] |
| diana_coman: | 179 sm at 168q | [09:54] |
| diana_coman: | 119 tpt at 168q | [09:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | ima take the lot. | [09:56] |
| diana_coman: | ok, 1 min to take it all out | [09:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | more than that, gotta finish this craft. | [09:57] |
| diana_coman: | kk, I also found 13 eps at 168, lol | [09:57] |
| diana_coman: | when does your craft finish? | [09:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | in about 30 seconds i'd say./ | [10:04] |
| diana_coman: | kk | [10:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | now | [10:06] |
| danielpbarron: | mircea_popescu> what's the public prefer ? PB ? another altar package ? << I don't know what is this 'PB' but it is my choice anyway | [11:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | petrified bubble. | [11:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | you know diana_coman for some reason bot doesn't manage to train on this gung ho run | [13:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | failed every attempt, no idea why. | [13:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | also, i have an ordinary AE if you need the data tro put on your recipes page ? | [13:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | also wwb | [13:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | wwb is GRC, 3 SS, 16 WWB 5BB 4DCS | [13:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | ae is 14 wm dm 6 f dcs 2wwb sr cdg | [13:41] |
| diana_coman: | thanks, I'll add those | [14:05] |
| diana_coman: | the bot failure thing is weird, does it even register the rank-up thing? | [14:05] |
| diana_coman: | I'll be back in 40 minutes or so | [14:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | truth is i dunno, i'll keep an eye. | [14:07] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu you know diana_coman for some reason bot doesn't manage to train on this gung ho run <- could it be you are overweight even after it moves all the ingredients ? | [14:50] |
| diana_coman: | (as in: you are carrying other heavy stuff, maybe blueprints looted or the swarming grubs I sold you ) | [14:51] |
| jurov: | <mircea_popescu> and i also want all the staples of industry in low q. these are (in no particular order as i'll buy an infinity of any of them), s, io, ltf, bct, bms, cc, dg, ibs, ppb, all shaped slag << all except 2 of these depend on crumbly rock. can it be mined already? | [16:02] |
| jurov: | or bought somewhere in quantity? | [16:03] |
| jurov: | had same explore problem as danielpbarron yest, relogin fixed it | [16:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | nah i was underweight even with the ingredients | [17:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | jurov none depend on cr do they | [17:18] |
| jurov: | how so? io needs ltf which needs dg which needs cr | [17:20] |
| jurov: | or did that change recently? | [17:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | i have no problem providing the immediately anterior stuff. | [17:21] |
| jurov: | heh. you in village to trade? | [17:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | i am now yes | [17:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | just put some dg to cook | [17:24] |
| jurov: | you still busy? | [17:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | jurov didja finish those shaped slags / slags ? | [17:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | and i did get you more flotsam for that sr, how much exactly did you need to match ? | [17:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | 500 you say ? | [17:39] |
| jurov: | 466 | [17:39] |
| jurov: | round to 500 | [17:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | kk lemme get that then | [17:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman you want noxious pigment thing ? | [17:46] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, do you have the other stuff too? | [17:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | nop. | [17:47] |
| diana_coman: | I don't really have anything to do with it now then | [17:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | kk | [17:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | you also doing a list of remarkable ewnujms btw ? | [17:52] |
| diana_coman: | I guess it would make sense to add that, huh | [18:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | not like anyone build one yet afaik | [18:08] |
| jurov: | just for fun, what are typical requirements for extraordinary? | [18:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | you mean remarkable ? looks like ~500k worth of rare shit | [18:31] |
| jurov: | heh you can now sell various stuff to electron for ... 0 coppers :) | [18:38] |
| jurov: | but not buy ofc | [18:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah the pricing is a little off, chetty is working to fix it. | [18:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | hey jurov ready for these picks ? | [19:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | just got 4k sb from a small | [22:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman got some ppb for you when you're back. | [23:39] |
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