| diana_coman: | morning all | [02:44] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu do you want that moss ? | [02:44] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, and crash... | [02:52] |
| diana_coman: | chetty, I was again just dropping tons of keys like last time | [02:52] |
| diana_coman: | if it was me, that is | [02:52] |
| thestringpuller: | diana_coman: playin' vidya games all day | [02:55] |
| diana_coman: | ha ha thestringpuller and all night | [02:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | heh | [02:55] |
| diana_coman: | but sheesh, not an option for me anymore, no | [02:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | how did it crash ? | [02:56] |
| diana_coman: | I had this before: I just start dropping all the crud keys I accumulated | [02:56] |
| diana_coman: | and at some point it goes boom | [02:56] |
| diana_coman: | no idea how/why | [02:57] |
| diana_coman: | the client crashes too | [02:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | meh. this one looks different. | [02:57] |
| diana_coman: | well, assuming that it was me crashing it | [02:57] |
| diana_coman: | it might have been something else entirely | [02:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway. restarted | [02:57] |
| diana_coman: | so do you want that moss? | [02:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | yes ima be there in 10. | [02:58] |
| diana_coman: | k | [02:58] |
| diana_coman: | it seems that the sweeper was going on so possibly that has to do with it | [03:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm. | [03:00] |
| diana_coman: | I'll have to go soon | [03:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | we do next time ? | [03:25] |
| diana_coman: | prolly | [03:25] |
| diana_coman: | I should be able to get back in the afternoon, so that's pretty much in 6 hrs from now | [03:26] |
| diana_coman: | jurov, if interested and around, I can pass on to you some tiny claims if that helps, maybe? | [03:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | nah i can't be arsed to dig up tinies | [03:29] |
| diana_coman: | lol mircea_popescu are you jurov now? that was an offer for him | [03:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh sorry | [03:45] |
| diana_coman: | but sure, if you want them, no problems | [03:46] |
| diana_coman: | anyone else for that matter | [03:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | he i just dumped like 80 grass claims because wtf, i can't be bothered | [03:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | but i think it'd be a decent living for noobs, follow miners like that rhino bird | [03:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | and eat the tinies. | [03:46] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, I was thinking that they might at least be useful to someone rather than throw them away | [03:59] |
| diana_coman: | btw, I got some shiny rocks in the end | [03:59] |
| diana_coman: | and a couple of polished stones | [04:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | o hey, shiny rocks i need | [04:00] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, I thought they would be needed, lol | [04:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | ima swiotch over now if you're still in game | [04:00] |
| diana_coman: | not right now, no, sorry, I might be able to pop in for a minute in about 10 | [04:01] |
| diana_coman: | there, I'm getting in for a min if you want to get those items | [04:09] |
| chetty: | reading back .. I have to say tiny still makes me happy | [06:26] |
| diana_coman: | chetty, that locked tiny claim seems to have disappeared too | [08:34] |
| diana_coman: | though it took some time | [08:34] |
| jurov: | mircea_popescu: yes i suspected you left some claims unused. but tried, few it said they were used, so i thought i'm mistaken | [08:36] |
| diana_coman: | jurov, I'm going now to mine some shiny rocks, do you want any tiny claims? | [08:37] |
| jurov: | maybe later when the vanishing is fixed | [08:37] |
| diana_coman: | well, it's probab best to just get them and mine them on the spot now | [08:38] |
| jurov: | i intended to leave them for later | [08:39] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, maybe later you'd rather mine/get small ones as your skill grow? | [08:39] |
| diana_coman: | but well, as you know | [08:39] |
| jurov: | yes, since barehand gathering still gives +100 | [08:39] |
| diana_coman: | hmmm, remember that it works on the principle "what you put it, you get out" | [08:41] |
| diana_coman: | so dunno | [08:41] |
| chetty: | I tell you all I am completely stumped by the claims, and its kinda impossible to seriously track them since there are so many sitting around, usually about 400 everytime I look | [08:41] |
| diana_coman: | anything we can do to help track? | [08:42] |
| chetty: | if I think of anything I will certainly ask | [08:42] |
| diana_coman: | please do :) | [08:42] |
| diana_coman: | btw, did you get the book in the end? | [08:43] |
| diana_coman: | the book of lists? | [08:43] |
| chetty: | hmm actually I should check on a single claim I left locked a long time ago ... I dont think I have a key for it anymore, hahaha | [08:43] |
| chetty: | oh yes, I found one :) | [08:43] |
| diana_coman: | good then :) | [08:43] |
| chetty: | yup, still there, still locked, was about a week ago I did that | [08:47] |
| diana_coman: | that's odd | [08:47] |
| diana_coman: | hmmm, the thing is | [08:47] |
| diana_coman: | I think I still have some ordinary claims that are older | [08:47] |
| diana_coman: | those seem to be fine | [08:47] |
| chetty: | server reset in 5 | [08:47] |
| diana_coman: | I should check the keys exactly, but like that just looking at it seems fine | [08:48] |
| chetty: | well I will test it more on my test server today,but I really have to actually see one instance of it misbeahving to figure out whats happening | [08:49] |
| chetty: | and I think it waits until I am not looking .. | [08:50] |
| chetty: | reset done, up | [08:52] |
| jurov: | chetty, giving them names, as i asked earlier? or it's completely client stuff? | [08:57] |
| jurov: | *improve tracking by giving them names instead of "Key" | [08:57] |
| jurov: | or if full names "key to twiddling frobs" are too long, just numbering then Key #NNNN | [09:01] |
| chetty: | well the key thing is client side, tooltip, they have 'names' that point to the actual cclaim and location | [09:01] |
| jurov: | they are distinct items anyway | [09:01] |
| chetty: | srry folks another ressart | [09:02] |
| jurov: | so th "Key" tooltip should be done on client? | [09:02] |
| chetty: | it is done on client | [09:02] |
| chetty: | comes fro the xml | [09:03] |
| chetty: | done on restart, up | [09:04] |
| jurov: | chetty: i see | [09:34] |
| jurov: | diana_coman: mining tiny claims (with the bits of nothing i have) gets only +7 building . so i prefer to explore on my own and use occassional small claim, too | [09:40] |
| jurov: | maybe if someone made hyperfragilisticexpialidocious bits of nothing with high q | [09:40] |
| jurov: | the result for tiny claims would be better. | [09:40] |
| diana_coman: | jurov not sure whether one can actually make bits of nothing/ | [09:46] |
| diana_coman: | ? | [09:46] |
| diana_coman: | re keys that can be surely done on the client from what I saw | [09:46] |
| jurov: | <mircea_popescu> [20150703 22:27] well, that and the fact that i made 30k flotsam into tiny bits. << dunno what bits he wrote about then | [09:48] |
| diana_coman: | tbh I still mine sometimes the tiny ones too simply for the items they give really, since there is now quite a shortage of various things I'd say | [09:50] |
| jurov: | i just bought a book to make them from mircea | [09:54] |
| jurov: | VERY hefty recipe, this. | [09:54] |
| diana_coman: | to make what? | [09:54] |
| jurov: | bits o' nothing | [09:55] |
| diana_coman: | ah, the bits | [09:55] |
| diana_coman: | good for you | [09:55] |
| jurov: | upon second reading, it says "between 1 and 999" of all ingredients so it can be tried with fewer... ofc it would be bad to waste the recipe with less | [09:57] |
| diana_coman: | that is the overloading thing | [10:05] |
| diana_coman: | so you can get the item with the minimum | [10:06] |
| diana_coman: | whatever you give it on top is basically overload and well, what you put in is what you get out as it were | [10:06] |
| jurov: | on top of what? | [10:24] |
| jurov: | and chetty: was an option considered that claims and keys vanish immediately after use? | [10:26] |
| diana_coman: | on top of the minimum, jurov | [10:26] |
| chetty: | yest diana_coman but what if it has more stuff than you can carry? | [10:56] |
| diana_coman: | chetty? | [10:57] |
| diana_coman: | what do you mean? | [10:57] |
| diana_coman: | oh, was it for jurov ? | [10:57] |
| diana_coman: | with the claims? | [10:57] |
| chetty: | yeah | [10:57] |
| diana_coman: | atm in any case you can kind of drag it | [10:57] |
| chetty: | oops srry directed at wrong person | [10:57] |
| diana_coman: | take it, drop it, take it, drop it, etc | [10:57] |
| diana_coman: | but yeah, I wouldn't be for deleting the claims on spot | [10:58] |
| chetty: | would really have been much easier to do that, but was voted a bad idea | [10:58] |
| diana_coman: | well, considering that the claims were meant also as storage, I can see why | [10:58] |
| chetty: | been thinking a little about doing that with tiny claims, but I kinda hate to get into considering claims differently | [11:02] |
| jurov: | i see | [11:03] |
| jurov: | server down | [11:12] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, either there really is a funny coincidence and it just happens when I start dropping keys but unrelated | [11:12] |
| diana_coman: | or ...it is because I start dropping keys, lol | [11:12] |
| chetty: | up now | [11:13] |
| chetty: | its the keys | [11:13] |
| chetty: | I am still looking for ways to prevent that, but it goes nuts trying to lookup a lockname that does not exist, and well I can't know it doesnt exist until I look for it and .. | [11:14] |
| chetty: | and I dont know why there even are keys for locks that dont exist because I am deleting them at the same time the sweeper takes the claim | [11:16] |
| diana_coman: | it's funny because every time I am actually dropping recent keys | [11:17] |
| diana_coman: | the locks surely exist as I had just mined them as it were | [11:17] |
| diana_coman: | and they did not yet disappear | [11:17] |
| chetty: | well the line that kills it is getOpenableLocks() | [11:19] |
| diana_coman: | are they openable if they are unlock? | [11:19] |
| diana_coman: | unlocked | [11:20] |
| chetty: | well the method is really just looking for the id of the lock that goes with the key | [11:20] |
| jurov: | and i got stuck, can't move nor jump | [11:20] |
| chetty: | ... /unstick? | [11:21] |
| chetty: | uh I bet the key has actualy been deleted from the server and your client view still shows it, hmmm | [11:22] |
| jurov: | unstick does not help | [11:23] |
| chetty: | ok, I'll move you | [11:23] |
| jurov: | btw maybe the key cleaner can be limited to offline players | [11:23] |
| diana_coman: | jurov, sometimes it does that and the only way I got out of it was through quit and come back | [11:24] |
| jurov: | yes i tried that too | [11:25] |
| jurov: | btw maybe the key cleaner can be limited to offline players | [11:25] |
| diana_coman: | why? | [11:25] |
| diana_coman: | noooo | [11:25] |
| diana_coman: | I want it to clean my crud of keys, lol | [11:25] |
| diana_coman: | why would it make such difference? | [11:25] |
| jurov: | if there is no easier way to resolve items missing on client... | [11:26] |
| chetty: | yeah I think I need to force a client update somehow when I clean keys, course the sweeeper has no clue who has a key ... interesting | [11:26] |
| jurov: | send inventory message? | [11:27] |
| chetty: | yeah, prolly have to send one to all online players when we do key sweeps, at least I have a clue now how to maybe fix this | [11:28] |
| chetty: | did you move? | [11:28] |
| jurov: | no, trying to die now | [11:28] |
| jurov: | did not help | [11:29] |
| chetty: | hmm I moved you 1 coord in each dimension | [11:29] |
| jurov: | taht's jut deeper in the crater | [11:29] |
| chetty: | ah well just moved a lot more | [11:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | jurov> maybe if someone made hyperfragilisticexpialidocious bits of nothing with high q << lawl! | [11:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | jurov : i meant shavings, there. | [11:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | <diana_coman> take it, drop it, take it, drop it, etc << don't count on that working forever. | [11:32] |
| diana_coman: | I was under no illusions :p | [11:33] |
| jurov: | /pos stays the same...gotta relogin | [11:36] |
| jurov: | position changed, but only to hang deeper in the crater | [11:45] |
| jurov: | better reset it completely | [11:45] |
| diana_coman: | wow | [11:52] |
| diana_coman: | chetty, I made a thread and ...it crashed | [11:52] |
| diana_coman: | now the client crashed when I make threads, wtf | [11:53] |
| diana_coman: | server down | [12:24] |
| chetty: | up now | [13:31] |
| mod6: | sweeeeet | [13:31] |
| chetty: | srry, caught me napping :) | [13:32] |
| mod6: | haha, no worries. | [13:32] |
| mod6: | someone forgot their crafttable. | [13:32] |
| chetty: | nah there are some new things | [13:33] |
| mod6: | oh neato | [13:33] |
| chetty: | keep yur eyes open, somewhere there is a new item to find too | [13:34] |
| mod6: | cool, :] | [13:34] |
| jurov: | chetty i'm still stuck | [13:43] |
| chetty: | huh? I moved you all the way to the spawn point? | [13:44] |
| jurov: | interesting. maybe client moved me back here | [13:45] |
| jurov: | /pos gives 105,45,-30 | [13:45] |
| chetty: | yeah log off, I'll move you then log back on, prolly saved you where you were | [13:45] |
| jurov: | logged out | [13:46] |
| chetty: | ok try now | [13:47] |
| jurov: | i was supposed to be in spawning point? | [13:47] |
| jurov: | it just moved me few meters awa from crater | [13:48] |
| jurov: | *away | [13:48] |
| jurov: | either way, it's fine now, thanks! | [13:48] |
| chetty: | well this time I just put in random coords :P | [13:48] |
| jurov: | mod6 you wanted to buy coppers or sth? | [13:49] |
| mod6: | sth? | [13:51] |
| mod6: | yeah, i do need some coppers. probably in the next few days. | [13:52] |
| jurov: | sigh. mined tiny bitterbean claim.. an it just left the bit of nothing in | [13:52] |
| jurov: | on second try, it build the beans | [13:53] |
| mod6: | try moving it from one cell of the mining container to another. | [13:53] |
| jurov: | again. it left the bundle there and did not go further, no error messages | [13:55] |
| mod6: | did your recipe go away? | [13:56] |
| mod6: | and leave you with a half-built item? | [13:56] |
| jurov: | i had to click "Use" and then it made the stones | [13:56] |
| mod6: | ah | [14:01] |
| diana_coman: | I guess that table was mine, mod6 - the server crashed while I was making stuff | [15:32] |
| diana_coman: | wow, I got the darn client to actually do a bit of exploring directly from the code | [15:35] |
| diana_coman: | now if I figure out somehow the movement part arghhh | [15:35] |
| chetty: | good job diana_coman | [15:51] |
| diana_coman: | thanks, it feels good tbh, as so far digging through the client was quite horrible :( | [15:52] |
| diana_coman: | but well, for the moment it's more like a hack anyway | [15:52] |
| diana_coman: | long way to go still :( | [15:52] |
| chetty: | yeah there is some really nasty code in there | [15:52] |
| diana_coman: | it didn't set any cheat flags, did it? | [15:53] |
| chetty: | I wasnt looking | [16:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | heya. | [16:07] |
| diana_coman: | hello | [16:07] |
| diana_coman: | as a fun fact: I've got tons of shredding recipes, half a ton of recipes for my own book and about a few kilos of very small sparkles, but no other skills yet, lol | [16:10] |
| diana_coman: | I'll keep shredding of course, but I find it funny, lol | [16:10] |
| danielpbarron: | http://192.121.170.137/eulora/2015-06-23.log.html#t19:47:39 << any need for voice over actors? I know a guy. | [16:10] |
| jurov: | male voice? | [16:12] |
| jurov: | i can guess mp would say to that :) | [16:13] |
| jurov: | wow. i half-wore an adze from mp, meticulously locked all my claims | [16:14] |
| jurov: | only to find not even one after mere 2 hours | [16:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron yeah, we know a few guys, problem is the sound is a mess in the client, and it kinda failed to get enough priority to get looked into. | [16:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | if you look in the art directory, there's voice for greyhawk there. | [16:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | make the client sound work right, win an eulorean prize! | [16:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | jurov yeh this sweeper thing's on the fix list. ate my fucking remarkable. | [16:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | one tho. another's standing, or was last i checked. and all my ords too. | [16:16] |
| jurov: | i have got maybe 30 tiny and small claims removed | [16:16] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, did anything different with the one stills standing? | [16:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | nope. | [16:16] |
| diana_coman: | ugh jurov, are you sure you don't want to mine them on the spot? | [16:16] |
| diana_coman: | esp tiny? | [16:17] |
| diana_coman: | I can give you some better bits of nothing if that helps | [16:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | with the new BON, tinies should be fun | [16:17] |
| diana_coman: | at 163 | [16:17] |
| jurov: | it's faster to explore all first, then mine | [16:17] |
| diana_coman: | well yes, but in batches? | [16:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman i looked some chewed duct tape myself, and some other things. | [16:17] |
| jurov: | ofc in batches :) | [16:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | lulziest thing : i looed like 12 of them!!!! on a craft that was 1 each | [16:17] |
| chetty: | seriously? going back looking for claims seems slow to me | [16:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | much better than what i got with fully loaded crafts | [16:18] |
| diana_coman: | :)))) | [16:18] |
| diana_coman: | that was exactly my next try, lol | [16:18] |
| diana_coman: | I made some in between too | [16:18] |
| jurov: | i'm not going to look into them | [16:18] |
| jurov: | *for them | [16:18] |
| diana_coman: | so now I was getting on to the lower scale, lol | [16:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | he just teleports lol | [16:18] |
| jurov: | just turn around, put all the tiny scrolls to my mind and do them | [16:19] |
| diana_coman: | teleport will probab be a way of making this mining hack faster, but ugh | [16:19] |
| jurov: | if the sweeper is such a problem, can't it mark stuff for removal first? | [16:20] |
| jurov: | then you can go through it and check whether it's right | [16:20] |
| chetty: | yeah right, go do manual maintenance on db while I am supposed to be writting code, sounds fun | [16:21] |
| jurov: | ikr, just piling code to fix bugs is always more fun | [16:22] |
| chetty: | well guys enough for one day, have fun | [16:22] |
| diana_coman: | thank you chetty, see you later | [16:23] |
| jurov: | thanks, too! | [16:23] |
| diana_coman: | ha ha mircea_popescu it certainly *seems* to give out different things at different levels of overload or smth | [16:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | whatcha get ? | [16:25] |
| diana_coman: | nothing of much interest, but certainly different selection than previously | [16:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | name them ? | [16:25] |
| diana_coman: | I still don't have a new skill | [16:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh then how diff selection | [16:26] |
| diana_coman: | well, at top I got those sparkles and my books | [16:26] |
| diana_coman: | ah, that shredding thing is the recipe | [16:26] |
| diana_coman: | so no, sorry, nevermind, got confused with the name, lol | [16:26] |
| diana_coman: | blah | [16:26] |
| diana_coman: | I thought the shredding guide was a different thing, lol | [16:27] |
| diana_coman: | pffft, back to the shredding board | [16:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [16:27] |
| diana_coman: | anyway, I have about 10k of shredding recipes | [16:27] |
| diana_coman: | so I can certainly do LOTS of tries | [16:28] |
| diana_coman: | if I do them all and it's still not statistically relevant then... | [16:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | curious. | [16:28] |
| diana_coman: | lol, so far it's nothing or a few shredding recipes for the very bottom, more shredding recipes as I increased, then more shredding plus a few of my books, then even more shredding plus more books plus the sparkle on occasion, then more of those basically (did several trials of each "level" so far, but well, it doesn't yet add up to too much, true | [16:42] |
| diana_coman: | I still find it funny :)) | [16:43] |
| diana_coman: | and obv, it might just hit the jackpot anywhere | [16:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | eulora getting a restart in 15 | [21:02] |
| mod6: | ah, did I crash ze server? | [22:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | kemme see | [22:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | mod6 done | [22:42] |
| mod6: | nice | [23:45] |
| mod6: | i dunno what i did to it, i was just walking around and mining. | [23:45] |
| mod6: | might hvae clicked one too many times tho | [23:45] |
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